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abortions Anonymous 103486

Hot topic, but what's your opinion of it? I don't like the fact that so many young people act like it's nothing, it's a quite serious topic with many angles to look at it from.
In my opinion abortions should be available until the 8th week, which is around the time the nervous system and brain reach a level of development where the fetus can be called "conscious".
Special circumstances should be available for rape victims.

Anonymous 103487

>>103486
>abortions should be available until the 8th week
? You know this is counted from the date of your period not conception, right? You can't even schedule an abortion until the 4-5th week, when the fetus becomes visible. That plus the waiting periods mandated in some US states, lack of accessibility to offices that perform abortions, and having to take time off work make yours a very restrictive take. You should probably do more research before you just come up with numbers and opinions.

Anonymous 103489

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I say the beginning of the second trimester in case there are abnormalities or the mother didn’t know she was pregnant and had been binge drinking/doing drugs.

Anonymous 103509

>>103508
the only correct answer

Anonymous 103511

should be illegal. life is sacred

Anonymous 103512

I've always found the viability argument to be fraudulent. This would imply that because a baby can start surviving out of the womb (with medical support) in New York a month or so earlier than a baby in rural Africa, that somehow the baby in New York becomes a "person" faster.

In the end abortions for rape, incest and medical emergencies for the mother are only 1% of abortion cases, they should be allowed at any point, period.

Still trying to decide how I feel about the other 99% of abortions.

Anonymous 103513

>>103511
And pregnancies that threaten the mother's sacred life?
Dumb thread

Anonymous 103514

>>103513
in 2004 only 4% of abortions were made because the mothers life was in danger. the other 96% were for reasons such as "i'm not ready", "dont want to interfere with education or career". 96% of abortions are not made because the mothers life is at stake, they are just made because she wants to kill another human

Anonymous 103516

>>103512
the thing is, if only abortions for rape and medical emergency are allowed, a lot of people will try to find loopholes to prove that it wasn't "really" rape or even that it doesn't "really" threaten the mother's life so they can deny abortions to as many women as possible.
at the end of the day, while technically murder, it is necessary and should be available on demand. better that than having more unwanted children born

Anonymous 103517

My idealistic approach would be to perform the abortion and immediately tie her tubes (if her pregnancy was not a result from rape or life-threatening).
But I'm not sure if we can always have a 100% guaranteed way of proving the risks and the rape.

Anonymous 103518

>>103514
There are 125,000 abortions worldwide per day. That's still 50,000 abortions a day done because the woman's life is in danger. How do you verify if the abortion is life-threatening or from rape? Like >>103516 said people will exploit the loophole.
The fact is that if women who need an abortion will get one, even for the reasons like "not being ready." In the past women died from trying to abort themselves with hangers, poisonous teas, shoving slippery elm up their vagina, etc. Many women died this way until doctors offered abortions under the table as it's a simple 5 minute medical procedure. More abortion restrictions will lead us back to women needlessly dying

Anonymous 103519

>>103518
sorry 5,000* a day, almost 2 million a year

Anonymous 103520

>>103516
>the thing is, if only abortions for rape and medical emergency are allowed, a lot of people will try to find loopholes to prove that it wasn't "really" rape or even that it doesn't "really" threaten the mother's life so they can deny abortions to as many women as possible.
And? Loopholes exist everywhere. Your argument also suffers because those who were not raped or have a medical emergency can also exploit loopholes as well to abort. The argument cuts both ways.
>at the end of the day, while technically murder, it is necessary and should be available on demand. better that than having more unwanted children born
I don't think this has anything to do with what you said before, and I'm not certain why these things were packaged together.

Anonymous 103524

>>103520
i think all children should be wanted and that it's better for unwanted (for literally any reason) children not to be born at all.

Anonymous 103526

>>103524
Understandable, and a common sentiment. I'm not sold on it, but I'm aware it exists.

Anonymous 103532

>>103511
>life is sacred
would you really call a clump of cells sacred? I get this argument if the fetus is above 3 months old, since it's a conscious human being with a brain and a nervous system by that point.
But before that, and especially before 8 weeks? No.

Anonymous 103533

>>103532
>would you really call a clump of cells sacred?
NTA, but you are also a giant clump of cells.

Anonymous 103534

>>103533
None of those anons but you should put this pedantic comeback back where you found it girl

Anonymous 103535

>>103534
What makes the clump of cells you are different from the clump of cells that is a fetus? You mention a nervous system, but I'm not sure what that has to do with anything, as those are just cells too.

Anonymous 103536

>>103535
You're replying to the wrong person like I said I'm NTA

Anonymous 103537

>>103536
I'm aware.

Anonymous 103538

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Question for the class: If there were a test that told you your unborn fetus was going to be a tranny, would you abort? I would.

Anonymous 103539

>>103538
Eh. Maybe.

Anonymous 103544

>>103517
Against her will? Why? Some people aren't ready to care for an entire other person, but might want to in the future.

Anonymous 103545

I literally don't see a problem with abortion as long as the foetus doesn't feel pain (so before a nervous system, brain and consciousness are formed). Some people aren't ready to take care of a child, and I think all reasons are valid. I would rather see a foetus painlessly die than watch a woman go through a life-threatening experience, live in poverty, give up her career/education, have something for an abusive partner/rapist hold over her head, see a child give birth, have a baby born with serious disabilities/illnesses, allow incest babies to exist etc.

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