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Anonymous 111454

thinking of transferring to a university for graphic design because i want a degree and to not be hopping around minimum wage jobs for the rest of my life. i have only a few months to put together a massive portfolio for something i have never done yay!

Anonymous 111462

Well, if you've never done it before then at least you don't have preconceived ideas and they'll be seeing something fresh when you submit it. Hope it goes well for you!

Anonymous 111466

You really need to do a lot more research. It's a deadend major and it doesn't pay as well as you think

Anonymous 111467

It won't matter in ~20 years or so. Just get a min wage and stop worrying about it

Anonymous 111497

>>111454
Don't.
It's a highly competitive field, there are more graphic designers than what the workforce needs so you'd have to be a fucking beast to make it. In current year it's like wanting to be a photographer or a fashion designer.
STEM used to be the new meta but even that is starting to suffer from an unbalanced supply-demand ratio
Go for trade jobs, some pay well and they'll always be relevant no matter what

Anonymous 111499

>>111454
Why go to a university? I can assure you no Graphic Design job is going to stop you saying "well you don't have a Bachelor's so you're dogshit". If you have a portfolio just start networking to get where you want to go. This is especially true if you're American and it's going to cost you money to get a degree.

Anonymous 111502

>>111499
This, in Western countries at least, you're going to have better luck getting a job at a small business where there are overlap of duties. If you have an ok sense of design then they'll get you do those tasks and you can get experience as well as build the skill
Universities are good if you don't have any sense for it and need to know the theory but the debt and a couple of years don't seem worth it in the case of graphic design

Anonymous 111503

>>111454
Yeah my brother got a degree in graphic design, with $50k in debt, he then proceeded to live with my parents for 3 years trying to get a job, then he tried freelance and didn't get much work and half the time they would stiff him. Then my parents kicked him out and he was homeless for a year couch surfing still trying to get a job. He eventually gave up and has spent the last 8 years packing boxes in a department store warehouse. He has a lot of anger at the world now, especially anyone that says you need to get a degree.

Don't get a degree in graphic design.

Anonymous 111507

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>>111454
op here and fuck s thank you for informing me… i really wanted to transfer to a university for my remaining two years but im just really stuck on what to pursue. would architecture or environmental sciences be good to study? or something like communications? i dont have interest in much else if i cant write, create, or work with animals/the environment and im not going to college for music.

do i just drop out? is it useless? i dont want to struggle my whole life and now im stressing out.

Anonymous 111509

>>111507
If you have a portfolio and you have experience with graphic design, just get an Associate's and start freelancing/latching onto small business/whatever until you have a good Graphic Design. If you're too scared of how unpleasant and long this could take, with possibly no payoff, then your other option is to get some generic paper-pusher degree, find a job in some faceless corporations somewhere, and work on your Graphic Design in your free time.

Anonymous 111511

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>>111509
im done with my associates this spring which is why i was considering transferring like i said but i keep getting mixed opinions on the things i wish to major in, which is whyi was wondering if communications or environmental sciences or architecture would be a decent career?

it seems fucked up that i cant have a career doing something i love at least a little (animals, writing, music, art) and ill just have to be miserable my whole life. wake up call i guess. seems easier to kill myself than dedicate my life to a career i loathe??

Anonymous 111513

>>111511
>im done with my associates this spring which is why i was considering transferring like i said but i keep getting mixed opinions on the things i wish to major in, which is whyi was wondering if communications or environmental sciences or architecture would be a decent career?
Well, if you want more conflicting opinions.
>communications
Literal meme degree. The only way to make this work is being extroverted as fuck and networking your ass off until you land in some corporations, you would be one among faceless soft science masses. What exactly would you want to do with the communications degree?
>environmental sciences
Not the worst, not the best. This job field is also competitive, but more based around taking internships/getting involved in professors projects so that you collect enough experience to get some job somewhere. I can't say you'll ever be rich, but you'll make perfectly livable wages somewhere if you play your cards right.
>architecture
I'm going to be honest I know jackshit about this, my intuition tells me that most likely you wouldn't be some big name skyscraper designers as much as a member of a firm that designs elementary school/office building/main hall#6574857. To get anything higher requires networking you ass off too.

>it seems fucked up that i cant have a career doing something i love at least a little (animals, writing, music, art) and ill just have to be miserable my whole life. wake up call i guess. seems easier to kill myself than dedicate my life to a career i loathe??

Let me just ask you, when you say "career" are you thinking of a simple 9-5 or what the most "careers" are which is 70-80 hours per week over decades?

Anonymous 111514

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>>111513
im thinking of a 9-5 that im not miserable at and that i can get a livable wage at. not $12/hr for $1800 in rent :( theres side jobs i used to do but im 20 now and i need to be an adult… i cant rely on flipping or etsy or working with animals here and there and the fulltime jobs i have had have never paid enough.

i know in this day and age, unless i luck out, i wont have my ideal career. but i at least want something that i wont want to kill myself everyday at or something that aligns with at least one of my interests…

and ive been thinking about this for years and just cant find the answer because the things i love to do dont make me money or enough at all and i feel stuck. i think either environmental sciences or just finishing my a.a. and dropping out is whats best right now.

probably shouldve put this in feels im sorry but ive been a nut the past few days scrambling to figure out if i should transfer to university for a degree or just find a fulltime job that pays decent (but id probably just be stuck at home forever) while working on the things i love on the side (mainly music/writing and stuff to make + sell)

thank you for replying. im just so lost right now, and i cant find the right direction.

Anonymous 111515

>>111507
You have this backwards. Come up with a realistic life/career plan, and then figure out what you need to do to make that happen. Don't just randomly pick a shitty degree that "sounds interesting" or whatever. Even if you had free school, you're wasting years of your life.

Anonymous 111516

>>111515
so what would you even suggest i do? wanting to write/make music and sell stuff on etsy isnt a realistic career.

Anonymous 111517

>>111514
>im thinking of a 9-5 that im not miserable at and that i can get a livable wage at.
That's not a career, that's a pencil pushing job that doesn't make you want to ill yourself, surprisingly common.
>not $12/hr for $1800 in rent
Well you could fix this problem by getting a higher paying job OR living somewhere cheaper, just saying. There are in fact two choices.

t. 30$/hr for 525$ rent with Associates

>i know in this day and age, unless i luck out, i wont have my ideal career. but i at least want something that i wont want to kill myself everyday at or something that aligns with at least one of my interests…

Reasonably, let's start with the obvious, what jobs that you are even aware of would completely suck your soul out?
>probably shouldve put this in feels im sorry but ive been a nut the past few days scrambling to figure out if i should transfer to university for a degree or just find a fulltime job that pays decent (but id probably just be stuck at home forever) while working on the things i love on the side (mainly music/writing and stuff to make + sell)

This is the meta if you don't want the starving artist route, which to be honest from the way you write doesn't seem to fit your personality.

>thank you for replying. im just so lost right now, and i cant find the right direction.

You seem to at least realize that having a full time "normal job" and working on the shit you actually care about in your free time is a viable option, I would agree with you that this is the case. If you want advice, here is what I have to say, the meta for the type of person like you seems to be getting a white collar job fading into the background somewhere and working on the shit you actually care about in your free time. Your job does not need to be where your passion goes, in fact, if you don't have the proper personality for it, it will actively make you hate what you love. Getting a boring job is not as awful as more imageboards users make it out to be, unless you are literally mentally ill and unable to work. Do you think you'd ever qualify for mental disability? If not, working is not as bad as anons/miners make it out to be.

Anonymous 111518

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>>111517
id have to save up for a couple of years until i move but its realistic, yes.
i could qualify for disability but i dont want to be tied down to that or wait years for the process, im okay with working but fulltime jobs in the past did make me suicidal. im sure id be okay, though. the structure of working keeps me stable anyway. when i was NEET i seldom engaged in the things i loved, i had terrible burnout.

right now im between either:
transferring and pursuing architecture or environmental sciences, or finishing my a.a. and getting some sort of healthcare(caregiver or something)/waitress job, while pursuing what i am passionate about in my free time. i also looked into getting a TEFL for a bit and possibly teaching english online for some income.

thank you for your input and advice its been so appreciated. i guess now my option is between transferring or stopping after my a.a. i suppose i could always go back to college if needed.

Anonymous 111521

>>111518
>i could qualify for disability but i dont want to be tied down to that or wait years for the process, im okay with working but fulltime jobs in the past did make me suicidal. im sure id be okay, though. the structure of working keeps me stable anyway. when i was NEET i seldom engaged in the things i loved, i had terrible burnout.
If you believe this to be true, it must be, I should ask though, have you actually ever worked a job full time that wasn't basic labor tier? Like actual office jobs? How exactly do you know what jobs would be awful?

>transferring and pursuing architecture or environmental sciences, or finishing my a.a. and getting some sort of healthcare(caregiver or something)/waitress job, while pursuing what i am passionate about in my free time. i also looked into getting a TEFL for a bit and possibly teaching english online for some income.

Well, those both sound like viable routes, in order to choose between them, I'd recommend having some kind of strategic goal. What are you trying to work towards? What is your ideal life, should you dare to even believe it can exist?

Anonymous 111528

>>111521
nope, all of my jobs have been labor or customer service so maybe thats the issue?

my ideal life would be living comfortably, writing novels and making music and just indulging in my hobbies honestly. its a simple life for the most part, i just dont want to screw up. i want to be able to support myself with whatever job i have.

Anonymous 111563

>>111528
You're 20 years old and have never worked anything more than entry level jobs that are notoriously known for being soul-killing.

Most people won't make a living in the arts. The amount of art needed to be produced vs the consumer ratio is so far off that it's practically hopeless unless you have connections.

You didn't understand what the other anon said when they said to figure out what you want in your life and work backwards. If a happy future to you means living in X city/town, being able to afford X kind of place to live, being able to afford X hobbies or travel or whatever, and finding out what you'll need to make that happen. If you need 100K a year, that will give you fewer job options than if you can live off of 50K a year. Once you know what you're aiming for, you can start to figure out careers in that pay range in the area you want to live in.

If your dream life, as you've mentioned, is just you getting to do some your hobbies, finding a 9-5 office job will probably be great, honestly. Find something that won't follow you home, gives you benefits, and has decent PTO. Most office jobs can also be done in way less time, so you could probably work on art at the office, too.

Congrats on finishing your associate's, though! I'd probably recommend getting a certificate in something like medical admin or legal admin, human resources, pharmacy tech, etc where you get a job placement and can often continue employment after that.



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