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bimbofication Anonymous 127326
What are your thoughts on the "bimbo" and gyaru shtick thats becoming popular (mostly on tiktok)
the whole playing into the scrotes ideal of being a pretty airhead??
Anonymous 127327
>>127326absolutely disgusting, these women must have so much internalised misogyny
Anonymous 127329
>>127327Just what I was about to write. We need smart, intelligent and clever women, not ones who will follow a moid blindly.
Anonymous 127330
>>127326Ridiculous psyop. I also hate how they misunderstand gyaru.
Anonymous 127337
Is hyperfemininity really the feminist take theyre looking for?
Anonymous 127338
>>127326It's fine to dress however you like, but it's not fine to act like an idiot sex doll. That's not being a feminist.
Anonymous 127366
>>127326I've heard that this new bimbo thing is about female supremacy. Like having such a strong and unstoppable grip on moids' boners that you can control them, and how in retrospect what they think of you does not matter. All that matters is that you're hot and they are desperate little idiots lying at your feet.
Anonymous 127367
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>>127365
Yep it isn't feminist to perform hyper-femininity. Still, if I could wish and become a ŕetty "Barbie Doll" type of girl wiih minimal effort, I'd take the chance.
Sorry nonaw -__-
Anonymous 127369
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>>127326I don't know what trend you're talking about, but for bimboification, I actually like it… but it's a fetish and not a lifestyle. I like roleplaying as a cute, girly princess with my husband and being called a doll.
I don't like bimboification art because I'm not into blondes or big boobs, neither is my husband, but I totally get the sentiment of wanting to be a super feminine, pretty submissive who likes being told what to do.
There's nothing wrong with being into it imo but that is a completely personal matter that has nothing to do with feminism. Your fetish shouldn't leak into your life and activism.
This anon
>>127329 is a good example of a person who can't separate sexual vs realistic behavior. You can be a smart woman with agency but still roleplay with the guy you trust.
>>127365Being wary of men is a necessity to pick a good man who actually loves you anon.
>>127367What does feminism have to do with what women perform in their personal lives? As long as you have control over your life as a woman, you're not financially dependent on a moid or let him coax you, help other women, and put your and other womens' needs first, you should be leading a "feminist" lifestyle. Focus on the fundamentals.
Anonymous 127372
>>127369>but I totally get the sentiment of wanting to be a super feminine, pretty submissive who likes being told what to do.should this be reclassified as a mental illness?
Anonymous 127385
>>127372no lmao its pretty normal for non butch women, the real mental illness strongarming women into thinking that there is no reality other than being a hardass dyke or a stockholm syndrome princess and that women arent meant to be a healthy mixture of varied tendencies
Anonymous 127389
>>127385It's really astounding how many words it takes to describe acting normal in the current era.
Anonymous 127391
>>127366(Op here)
Yeah its exactly this, tbh I don't fully get it. It doesn't seem as empowering as they make it out to be maybe im missing something
Anonymous 127395
>>127369it is impossible to keep both the private and non-private realms separate, i think it is legitimate to criticize people with disturbing fetishes
Anonymous 127399
>>127395Fetishes that are disturbing (to you).
Anonymous 127401
>>127385I'm sorry anon, being submissive and liking being told what to do is not normal at all in adult women, unless you live in some type of very patriarchal country. I get that it's shilled in the media all the time, but anyone who has interacted a lot with women knows it's not true.
Anonymous 127405
>>127399any sensible person would find bimbofication and acting like an air headed doll disturbing
Anonymous 127420
>>127405theres nothing wrong with that personailty trait. its not like an airhead would want to get with everyone as bimbos so looking the part isnt so bad. its like going happy go lucky
Anonymous 127427
These women probably realize they have no skills in life but are too lazy to do any self-improvement so they cope using this. Similar to tradthots who are too lazy to study or work so they want all women banned from doing those things to stop the pressure. Basically there's not really many roles or spaces for "loser women" in society so these are the type of things they come up with to cope.
Anonymous 127441
>>127420Being an airhead is an objectively negative trait and it has only been pushed on women because of misogyny.
"Airhead" men are just retards.
Anonymous 127443
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>>127441You act as if "himbo" hasn't creeped it's way into vernacular and that men who personify it aren't rewarded with massive amounts of money and attention.
Anonymous 127447
>>127443himbos are revolting and you shouldn't use their existence as justification for a female equivalent
both should be shamed and done away with
Anonymous 127449
>>127447Why shamed? Because the alternative of "no fun big brain" is better?
Anonymous 127452
>>127443You act as if it's not a niche thing no one even knows about IRL. "Himbos" are not rewarded with massive anything, at best a handful of online streamers get some mediocre and short-lived gains compared to women pulling the same shtick.
Now look at actually successful men. Are they himbos? Is anyone telling men they should act dumb to "get their bags"? And why do you think the prefix "him" exists in "himbos"? Why do you think they needed to modify a term that only existed for women and add a masculine prefix because there's no independent term for men?
>>127449It is infinitely better in all ways.
Anonymous 127455
>>127452>Why do you think they needed to modify a term that only existed for women and add a masculine prefix because there's no independent term for men?For the same reason a bunch of terms started with men and then got feminine suffixs/prefixes? General language shift? I'm sure a big brain like you was well aware that bimbo started out as an exclusively masculine term in the 1900s, right?
>It is infinitely better in all ways.Well I suppose if you're looking purely at the brain angle, but the difference between a himbo and a moronic brute is that one is attractive and stupid (maybe also the presumption of lack of intelligence) and the other is just stupid. If we are taking the entire concept of himbo, then are you saying an ugly moid who is intelligent and no fun is "infinitely better in all ways" than an attractive airhead?
Anonymous 127458
>>127455>For the same reason a bunch of terms started with men and then got feminine suffixs/prefixes?And what terms are those? President? Boss? Doctor? Which other female terms need a "male" determinant to specifcy they are about men? Nurse? Bitch? Slut? You don't see a difference in the nature of those two classes of words? Do you think this happened by accident? Are we not supposed to have an ounce of critical thinking?
Maybe bimbos can't go that far, I don't know.
>I'm sure a big brain like you was well aware that bimbo started out as an exclusively masculine term in the 1900sI did not know this, actually, but it is completely irrelevant since the common usage currently is exclusively for women. Otherwise we wouldn't have to come up with silly words like "himbo" to specify we're talking about a male.
>is that one is attractive and stupid (maybe also the presumption of lack of intelligence) and the other is just stupidAh, if you're attractive then it's all that matters, I guess. We're just stupid little things made to be appreciated and devoured by men, right? We don't need anything other than attractiveness and youth, and we're fine with being discarded as soon as we age.
The fact of the matter is that being a dumb airhead is not valued in this society. All your "value" is dependent on what men throw at you, temporarily, and it is always conditional on your age and how available you are to them. Men are encouraged to develop traits that can be of use to them and allow them to acquire some actual power in society, independently of others' "charity", while apparently young girls on TikTok are flirting with the idea of being disposable fuck dolls and calling it "empowering".
Anonymous 127459
>>127458You're right and you should say it
Anonymous 127460
>>127458>And what terms are those? President? Boss? Doctor?Out of those items the only one that gets modified into the feminine form is "Madame President". As far as I am aware female doctors are not "doctoresses" and only incredibly liberal types use "girlboss" unironically to refer to a literal boss.
Really the best ones that come to mind is that "Actress" is derived from "Actor".
>Nurse? Bitch? Slut?Is there a masculine version of Nurse I am unaware? As far as bitch the term doesn't get modified to specify men, is that your point? It can be used interchangeably? I am not aware of any modification to "slut" that gets applied to men other than "buttslut" used in reference to fags. If anything slut is used exclusively against woman and there isn't a current way to modify to refer to men.
Better choice would have been "whore" because "manwhore" has to be specified as the insult. You can't even organize your argument properly, misses big brain.
>Do you think this happened by accident? Are we not supposed to have an ounce of critical thinking?We haven't even properly established good examples. Four of the ones you gave don't fall within criteria.
>Ah, if you're attractive then it's all that matters, I guess.No? You said "infinitely better in all ways" all ways includes attractiveness. Are you stating that being ugly is objectively better than being attractive? Because that's what that statement implies. If you meant "is infinitely better" sure, being intelligent is infinitely better than being attractive. You didn't say that though, is that what you meant?
>We're just stupid little things made to be appreciated and devoured by men, right? We don't need anything other than attractiveness and youth, and we're fine with being discarded as soon as we age. You need to calm down nona. Stop projecting onto me like this. You can directly quote where I said any of shit you're spewing.
Anonymous 127461
None of this even covers the fact "bimbo" started out as masculine only, moved to referring to both sexes, died, came back referring to only woman, then got split referring to the sexes separately. The next logical step is it to refer to exclusively men again and we'll come full circle.
Anonymous 127468
dont tell me youve never studied bimbology
Anonymous 127469
>>127468Sorry, too busy learning how to properly understand gyaru.
>>127330 I didn't have room for the minor.
Anonymous 127472
>>127326its just big boober big ass while being skinny. its boring.
Gyaru style is cooler altho it's kinda bimbo.
Anonymous 127476
>>127326It's tradthots pretending not to be, because they want to stay relevant. It requires serious bottomlessless stupidity to fit in both categories.
Anonymous 127477
>>127330>>127469>>127472https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuUdd7cxgRsIf you don't got the Lioness attitude don't even try. You need to be a girl boss, queen bee whatever. Bow to no man. Wear your fur jacket as a symbol of your superiority as huntress & slay some quality pretty boy butt. Otherwise no go. You must be assertive or aggressive, shy people don't make it.
Anonymous 127487
>>127469I just meant that "gyaru" and "bimbo" are very different things, wtv.
Anonymous 127488
honestly I don't really care about it all, if they wanna dress and act whichever way they want, that's fine. I know better than to seethe over people enjoying themselves in a way that doesn't really effect me. A lot of them do it for self expression as opposed to doing it for male attention anyhow, at least from what I've seen.
Anonymous 127489
Yaaaas bitch, I love being braindead, I don't need oxygen I only need cuuuum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlUMmlvVTwIAnonymous 127496
>>127489I assume you're being sarcastic, but you fucked up posting such a banger.
Anonymous 127499
>>127496It's a banger but women like this should kys themselves tbqh fam
Anonymous 127504
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teeheee falling for an obvious marketing shtick and dedicating my life to vapid hauls and filler injections is such an anti-capitalist radical response~
Anonymous 127506
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There is someone really asshurt about bimbos in this thread. I can't stop laughing every time they post.
Anonymous 127508
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>>127506imagine being asshurt about the gradual loss of societal status of your gender and the reinforcement of harmful stereotypes haha imagine wanting your female children to grow up in a world where women are seen as full humans lmaaao
Anonymous 127512
>>127507Backformation. A word went from sex neutral to single sex focused and then wanted to be applied to both sexes again. There's nothing stopping you from applying bimbo to both men and women, it has precedent.
Anonymous 127513
>>127512"Bitch" also meant "female dog", but if you call someone a "bitch" no one will think that is what you mean. "Bimbo" applies only to women in the current usage.
Anonymous 127514
>>127513Yes, that doesn't stop you from using the older style of word though. In fact nothing stops you from using any flurgles you want to. You can force any flurgle you want if you get enough people repeating it.
#MakeBimboGenderNeutralAgain
Anonymous 127516
>>127514Cool, but everyone else will keep using the word with its normal current meaning, while anyone criticizing the inherent sexism of the concept is going to be met with "ackshually bimbo is gender neutral", maintaining the status quo.
Anonymous 127520
>>127516Again I can only point to himbo existing if you're utterly crushed it's negative for us when the general is shifting towards gender neutral traits being associated with the terms.
Anonymous 127523
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>>127508If you know any teenage girls encourage them to spend less time online and have more irl hobbies and social activities. Social media is toxic is for everyone but I believe teenage girls and young women are the worst affected and shit like this bimbo stuff is a result of it.
Anonymous 127524
>>127520Are you pulling the tranny trick of circular arguments to tire your critics? "Himbo" is a niche thing, no one in real life even knows what it is, and has practically zero relevant media references (compare to the amount of movies made about "bimbos", the porn tropes, the songs, etc). "Himbo" is not a trend among males.
"Bimbo" is not a gender neutral trend, and anyone pretending it is has to be disingenuous.
Anonymous 127528
The fuck are you showing me this anime porno on my phone for
Anonymous 127530
>>127524>"Himbo" is a niche thing, no one in real life even knows what it is, and has practically zero relevant media references (compare to the amount of movies made about "bimbos", the porn tropes, the songs, etc).So was the term "bimbo" in the 1980s before it got it's current connotation. These things take time and grind slowly. All words slang has to start somewhere.
Anonymous 127532
>>127523are you daft?
>social media is toxic…and this bimbo stuff is a result of it. uhh theres a bread brand named bimbo. that term is as ancient as it gets and is before the times of social media
Anonymous 127533
>>127532The hell are you saying to me? Say some stupid shit next time and I’ll have you killed. That was a warning
Anonymous 127534
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>>127523>stereotype that existed 13 years before internet became widespread norm>stereotype that existed 23 years before social media took off>result of social media toxicity Anonymous 127540
>>127533look i agree with you on the first part. we all should spend less energy on social media. you're right. i was just knit-picking i dont mean to offend
Anonymous 127542
>>127488Except it does affect you as a woman.
Anonymous 127546
>>127530I wish you good luck in your "himbo" popularization pursuit, but grooming teenagers to be "bimbos" doesn't help in your task.
Anonymous 127548
>>127546>but grooming teenagers to be "bimbos" doesn't help in your task.Why are you accusing me of grooming teenagers wtf. Are you a moid?
Anonymous 127549
>>127548The thread is about the "bimbo" shtick that is popular on tiktok right now, and that's what I'm referring to, naturally. The whole thing is a grooming psy-op.
Anonymous 127552
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>>127551Put away your grooming bread you fucking sex trafficker. I'm onto you trying to destroy young women's self-image in your endless lust for impossible curves you sick fuck.
Anonymous 127554
>>127551>>127552eat bread -> grow big tits and butt -> get groomed on tiktok
the bread to sex trafficking pipeline is real
Anonymous 127562
cringiest thread ever made
Anonymous 127563
>>127552the bear got bimbofied, kawaii desu ne
Anonymous 127564
>>127455>If we are taking the entire concept of himbo, then are you saying an ugly moid who is intelligent and no fun is "infinitely better in all ways" than an attractive airhead?unironically yes. imagine encouraging stupidity
Anonymous 127565
>>127542How though? It's a group of women in a subculture that I'm not a part of, there's a whole heap of subcultures that women partake in that could be seen as derogatory or doesn't line up with my own personal values. Should I start seething over all of them? just let women and girls do what they want, simple as.
Anonymous 127567
>>127551Why would you want your mascot to be a bimbo ? How is it relevant to baked goods?
Anonymous 127574
>>127369>I like roleplaying as a cute, girly princess with my husband and being called a doll.>I totally get the sentiment of wanting to be a super feminine, pretty submissive who likes being told what to do.Go back to reddit please. You won't get any upvotes there.
Anonymous 127578
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>>127567>The name was formed as the combination of the Bambi and Dumbo films, the favourite films of Marinela, Lorenzo Servitje's daughter. Later, the founders would find out that bimbo is an Italian slang for children (shortened from bambino).It was founded in Mexico in 1945, the term "Bimbo" would not take it's current, "dumb blonde women" meaning until the 1980s.
Anonymous 127611
>>127580No? It might have been invented by men, but the derisive term seethe and dilate is fairly common among radfems.
Anonymous 127614
>>127565Individualist culture has convinced you that everyone is a hyper individual and that everything you do and say comes completely and organically from the true you within you.
But science has shown this is not true. We don't even know what the untainted behaviors of a human are like because we are such a cultural species.
By reinforcing the stereotype that women are stupid decorative playthings, they reinforce the ideas of every man they encounter that all women are like this. Men view us as such other, that brain scans show they literally do not view us as human and instead the "object" part of the brain lights up when viewing bimbos.
So the women and girls are dragging all of us down by further alienating women from men.
Anonymous 127976
>>127614It sounds like shitty research. Then what's the purpose of genes, why do people have different temperaments ? Where does the sense of humor come from ?? Its all absorbed over a lifetime an amazing sense of humor doesn't develope overnight.
People who think people are inhenently homogenous, have their heads in the sand because they follow scripts their whole lives and it pisses them off
Anonymous 128012
>>127366Everyone who believes that this actually gives you power is retarded. Most people arent mindless horny simps and actually just lose respect for you when you act and look like a bimbo. Men and women both. Also keep in mind that the moids that this works on are the ones that will ditch you the moment you "hit the wall". Any person that isnt lying to themselves would choose a normal life over the bimbo life.
Anonymous 128020
>>127326Oh look, more reasons to hate TikTok's userbase!
Anonymous 128025
>>127614>science has proven>no citations>sociology/psychologyPeople in replication crisis houses should not throw objective terms around.
Anonymous 128029
>>127614>instead the "object" part of the brain lights up when viewing bimbosnot true for the category of men who disregard women instead of viewing them as soulmates and opposite gender counterparts who support a offspring. like i said its less objectification and more nullifying however if one was to think of bimbos as a simple object then men can also be viewed as objects in a sense that people are "things" because they are a "thing" in nature just as birds,bees, and other mammals are. just a simple piece of nature that adds to a collective whole
Anonymous 128034
>>127614>Men view us as such other, that brain scans show they literally do not view us as human and instead the "object" part of the brain lights up when viewing bimbos.Were there controls in place to see how the moid brain lights up in regards to a normal woman? By default I assume that's how men view us. It isn't anything special that bimbos, a sub-category of women, are also objects.
Anonymous 128058
>>127330I hate how scrotoids misinterpret gyaru in general and turn it into a fetish. It's the same shit they do with "goths" and "tomboys". They reduce EVERYTHING to masturbation material I swear
>>127399This is either a massive, dumbass pickme or a disgusting troon with a bimbofication fetish. Half of this thread is, I think. Imagine trying to justify this shit as a woman.
Anonymous 128218
>>127452for the same reason words like foppish, rube, etc Only applied to men
It's just language changing. Oh while you're at it, I don't see why anyone would wanna call themselves hunty or fag hag, yet here we are
Anonymous 128219
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>>127458Good job being an american and restricting yourself to the wonderful language of English where these are makeshift constructions since it's a non-gendered language. In my language and any other language this cleavage in professional names has always existed. A perfect example for Americans is the whole Latinx debate - Spanish doesn't need that word
Anonymous 128221
>>128219I'm not an American and my first language isn't even English. However, this is an English language imageboard and our conversation was about the terms in English, so you sound a bit silly, anon.
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>>128219 Why the fuck you said «Latinx»? Being stupid enough to write that is amazing, please never use that greengo term close to actual Latin-americans
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Somehow I understand that you hate the bimboification of a term, but y'all missed the point of the existence of a Gyaru, It isn't about looking cute while being an airhead, neither being a bimbo. You moids cannot comprehend the actual backstory of japanese gyaru movement, it's about liberation dressing all pompous for male and alienated women standards.
Like, y'all introverted queen bees can only talk shit about it on this kind of boards because you can't even speak up agaisnt those stereotypes, you won't even get to be any of those stereotypes neither the archetipe or embodiment of a powerful women as feminism teaches you to be, criticizing trends of women who doesn't let men coax them.
Comprehend what the actual thing is, then talk what it is. Japanese who actually hate the stereotype of bimbo are way too big for you and y'all discussing like this fall too short.
Anonymous 128229
>>128219The conversation was about "Bimbo" and "Himbo". Both English terms. Other languages aren't relevant, we can make them relevant though. Would this mean that English is the most sex equal language in that case?
Anonymous 128234
>>128228Multiple people ITT said that gyaru is being misinterpreted. The "introverted queens" and not the ones misinterpreting it, it's the airheaded handmaidens on TikTok.
Anonymous 128235
>>128234>>128228
>trend starts off rebelling against social norms>aesthetic is taken and subsumed by people as a social normPottery
Anonymous 128243
>>128227It's happens in spanish speaking caountries too. Using 'e' as a gender neutral endin has been pushed for quite sometime, and before that the '@'. Examples, 'Les Latines', 'les diputades', 'les nenes', it is as retarded as it sounds.
Anonymous 128245
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It's a "cool girl" thing - they are trying to plant an idea, that matching coomer moid preferences is somehow empowers a woman - see sex work and bdsm also
Why would anyone have any power being degraded
In the end, a bimbo is the one being used, no?
Anonymous 128248
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>>128228Ah, liberation of an underage female school student in a form of sexualization and exotic western feminity for adult men, haha classic
I am familiar with egg, ageha and popteen, and the whole subculture is both consoomer shit and grooming for a hostess job/sex related work (for girl to have enough money to consoom western gyaru and western lux brands)
Isn't that just obvious, that gyaru, as an idea, is a woman, who is an "easy" one - because of western "sexy" image of her, not traditional "modest" japanese?
I don't mean it is bad for women to be sexually active, but being a cali-girl-but-what-if-hoe cosplay plus walking free fuck advertisement for coomers is kinda meh
Maybe I am wrong and don't understand anything, but this is stupid, idk
Anonymous 128249
>>128248>be traditionally beautiful by Japanese standards<ew you're just pandering to moids
>be as opposite to traditional Japanese beauty standards as you can manage<ew you're pandering to moids
Gyarus just can't win.
Anonymous 128252
>>128249Whatever a woman does, there is a moid who will fetishize that thing. If you're doing anything for a moid or against a moid, you are not winning. You're only winning if you do things for youself and ignoring moids completely.
Anonymous 128253
>>128249Nah, being "opposite" is not the point in gyaru. You can be "opposite" any other unconventional way - decora kid is pretty "opposite"
It's more, like I said - being young clubbing chick and - when more mature - trophy wifey, if you are lucky
Say, in japanese patriarchal tradition - woman is for marriage labor plus kids
western patriarhal traditions - the same BUT - welcome sexual revolution - now let me introduce you free love. That's the idea. Not being "opposite". It is a way of nlog-ing, mostly
Aesthetics can be charming, yes, but the origins are vulgar.
Anyway, european and US nerd girls cosplaying japanese girls who cosplay european and US "stacies" is pretty kekalicious
Anonymous 128255
>>128253I get what you're saying but all this e-girl/bimbo/gyaru/deco/what the fuck ever fashions that have been retrending lately are just fuck ugly.
And not in the "fuck men, I do this for me" like all these girls want to believe they're doing. More in the "I'm socially inept and have no hobbies outside of fashion and in order to fill the void I buy unnecessary clothes and makeup."
Anonymous 128274
>>128248>>128249The gyaru style is honestly really dope but what how the hell you are going to make it work outside of it's society? wouldn't you look out of place.
Anonymous 128413
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>>128274Not really
Depends on the substyle
If you don't go hard, like ganguro hard, it's more or less normie - especially now
Anonymous 128422
>>128245They think that moids throwing them a coin after using them like cheap sex dolls is "empowering" and "getting their baaaags". Stupid hoes.
Anonymous 128428
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One "pure" reason I can think of, is an attraction for a girl, who would entertain you. Imagine a gyaru stereotype: fun, sociable, active, not worrying about anything. Of course you would like something like that, if you are a dull and neurotic scrote.
Recent waifu of the season - Kitagawa Marin is exactly about that, imo
But could we call a nymphet/coquette type a bimbo? Also male-gazey, airheaded, highly feminine, cares for her looks. It is a bimbo after all, no?
Anonymous 128473
>>128428Yeah I think they can be called bimbos, but not in a porny/fetishy way. Like romantically oriented bimbos, I guess.
Anonymous 128504
>>128428Coquettes and nymphettes are usually airheaded but the archetype is not really supposed to emulate airheads, is it? They ramble endlessly about how they're so ~deep~ and intelligent "for their age".
Anonymous 128524
>>128428I find this kind of childish fetishy stuff way creepier and sexist than bimbo or gyaru stuff. Bimbos and gyarus were sexually aggressive bad girls who didn't care about men trying to shame them and were confident and badass. Being a nymphette is just trying to appear innocent and harmless and ultra passive to please creepy pedo moids. It represents all the constraints and stereotypes of femininity. Sure both are 'problematic' in different ways but there's nothing empowering about looking and acting like a helpless child.
Anonymous 128526
Obsessing over fashion is pretty much the antithesis towards actual empowerment.
Anonymous 128558
>>128526I was just about to sarcastically say, yes being a consooming fashion victim (Goth, Garyu, what have you, they're all consumed by their addiction to their fashion and make it a central part of their "personality" or lack thereof) is so much better and more feminist and empowering and whatever than "bimbos", but then I was thinking, what if my seething hatred for "fashionistas" is basically internalized misogyny, and I'm hating on women for a hobby that is like 98% female.
