America and Britain has caused many of the pain and evil that afflicts the world today. America manufactures the very same enemies they fight. It's brutal. The middle east used to be so beautiful 50 years ago and we killed it all. Over 'terrorism' that we caused. After Radical Islam that we made more prevalent. We uprooted their rulers and put zealots in charge. What right did we have to do that? There are 400,000 widows in Afghanistan and Iraq that American soldiers created. How can you not hate America at this point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AajPxROvcTAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKwn9rEC2X4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKfuS6gfxPY
Fellow Americans do ever feel guilty for supply this tyranny with your tax dollars?
If you're American your country did.
I don't get to choose what country I was born in.
The people should never be okay with this. They'll riot to the street over some douche-bag provocateur or 'pussy march' but they won't rise up where it really matters?
I'm not in the UK or USA but I find it honestly disgusting what the government is doing, and also the inactivity of the supposed 'activists' on issues that affect the future and innocent lives.
Not to sound tinfoil, but it's also not just the American and British government who plays a big role in the suffering in the Middle East. IYKWIM.
>>12755>The middle east used to be so beautiful 50 years ago and we killed it all.
The Middle East is an eternal powder keg, always in war or on the brink of war, and has been for millennia, although western intervention hasn't exactly done much to stop that. America is damned if it does and damned if it doesn't though - people cry about lack of intervention in regimes where supposed dictators are abusing their power, and they cry when America invades those countries.
American invention has probably saved more lives than its ended by preventing great powers from fighting each other, and we do after all live in the most peaceful and prosperous period in modern history. War is more visible now though, and people are much more easily able to record something on their phones and share it with the rest of the world. Because it's more visible, people are forced to be more aware of it and that leads to more protesting and perhaps some Americans feeling more guilty.
"On 8 March 1979, more than 100,000 women gathered on the streets of the Iranian capital to protest against the new Islamic government’s compulsory hijab ruling, which meant that women would henceforth be required to wear a headscarf when away from home. The protest was held on International Women’s Day, and the images show women from all walks of life — nurses, students, mothers — marching, smiling, arms raised in protest."
Islam killed the middle east
So America and Britain caused this, but you go on to only mention Americans.
Fuck off for that and fuck off for thinking the American and British public can fix these things.>>12784>>12806
Islam didn't kill the middle east. The middle east was a beacon for knowledge for hundreds of years after Islam. Women rode into battle in Muslim armies. The veil was never forced(it was just the norm, Mary weared the veil and it was a Jewish tradition) with the rise of modernity the veil wasn't worn outside the mosque. But the rise of Baathism was seen as a threat by the western powers and thus started the inevitable fall of the middle east. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ba%27athismhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Islamic_Arabiahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Islamic_Arabiahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGL3r5hh7zkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vaIK8wlAl0
Palestine was so peaceful back then. The Ottomans didn't tolerate radical Islam and revered sufism the mystical pacifist aspect of Islam. But the British had to destroy every influence they left on the region.
I really like those kind of veils. Like it's been said it was a jewish tradition to wear these veils. The bible even tells Christian women to wear veils when going to church. Russian Orthodox's really only follow that. Its a very said thing what the Islamic world has turned into no where in the Quran does it say to force women to wear veils or stone women. Such a beautiful text full of prose poetic realism and allegory, I recommend everyone to read the quran from the beginning. There's a reason why it became a trend among the founders and British aristocrats to have atleast one copy of the Quran.
Britain really did things worse than America regarding the middle east. At least Americans thought they were doing good. The Brits just did what was convenient for them.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wo2TLlMhiw
>>12896>At least Americans thought they were doing good
youre so naive! they always had interest in the land. theres no just doing good when it comes to government, theres always a hidden rea$on
>Long live Israel.
Look, Iraq had a chance to really support itself and exploit its resources properly. The postcolonial government wasn't doing great but the right leader could have made Iraq a Turkey-level power with a little elbow grease and 20 years. Saddam Hussein was not that leader. Check out a grocery store in the government-held areas; they can still make their own foodstuffs just fine, like the Sumer did. The oil was just gravy, and could have funded all sorts of projects that would have stabilized the region. I'm not saying Iraq needed a secular or impartial ruler, just a competent one.
The Baathists didn't know shit about the economics and the rest of the world did not care. If Saddam had used his oil wisely and refrained from embezzling so much from his country, there would have been no Gulf War, no Kurdish Genocide, nothing of the sort that made George Bush's monumental fuckup decision possible. A strong and prosperous Iraq would have checked a lot of the forces that have led to the wars the Middle East has suffered through in the last 30+ years.
Your nose is showing.
Saddam Hussein is literally a CIA plant.
Anti Semites are so annoying. Screw off. WE WERE THERE 4000 YEARS AGO. AND YES Abraham WAS BLUE EYED. God damn anti Semites and mudslimes. We're the real Semites.
This is why no one likes you. Ugly.
Please stop. You're embarrassing. Like, I'm Israeli and you're embarrassing.
wew. read a history book, levantine
I'm also Israeli and I honestly think this time traveller who knows the eye colors of historical figures is just pretending to be a caricature. There's just no way this is a genuine comment.
That's why every historical painting of him is depicted with dark skin and brown eyes. Have you ever actually seen what a levant looks like? Do you think Jesus had light brown hair and blue eyes too before the christians invaded europe and killed the pagans completely deforming the idea of what jesus really would have actually looked like?
>the true semites
now i know you're a troll. 10/10 got me to respond. enjoy those (you)s
I guarantee it's not a larp. Real Zionists talk like that. Didn't know that crystal cafe had it's own resident Zionist.
It was pol baiting. They said Irish people are semites lmao. That's exactly like saying scandinavians are semites.
I don't think she said that The Irish were semites. She said that the jews were second population with the highest concentration of red heads(after the irish-scots).https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#Medieval_antisemitism
It does seem like Jews had red hair for a long time.
I've actually studied the Quran for a university theology course. It's really just a collection of beautiful poems that tell stories. You gleam what you follow from the stories. Honestly if the hadith weren't a thing Islam might be the most peaceful Abrahamic religion.
Everyone is so docile. We're like sheep Tbh senpai. Revolution would never happen.
We will destroy Capitalism soon Comrade. All our oppression comes from capitalism.
Everyone your bong rip is showing.
You can love your country and the opportunities living there has given you while disliking the choices the people in charge of it make, these things aren't opposed. I'm glad I live in America but that doesn't mean I agree with everything our government does.
Catholics still wear them if you attend the Tridentine Mass. I love veils too.
Religion is fucked, the cult or sect doesn't matter.
finally a smart fucking post
Get a load of this agent of deceit!>>21364
But these bits are all the rules to war and stuff. You only have to look at how the early Islamic world was administered to know how heavily interpretation weighs into the practices of Islam. Even since the mid-20th century Islam has been taking back steps in terms of how open minded it is, undoubtably as a result of reaction to cack handed Western foreign policy and the always insidious influence of Saudi Arabia.
But in truth the first Anon I replied to was right.
>>12755>the Middle East used to be beautiful 50 years ago.
I am so happy this thread is here.
Thanks that smart post was mine
Just throwing in the concept of MKULTRA.
Anyone who also read up on it and wants to flame with me?
Seriously. America itself and most of its citizens are awesome. But I want to burn the whole military and politicized science into the ground.
Annnd showing up on another CIA checklist. Hi guys :3
>>21543>burn politicized science into the ground.
Federal expenditures on military R&D in academia and later spun off by private companies gave us tech like the internet though. I'm sure the idea itself was not unique and first theorized in those military projects but the vast sums of money required to make it happen could have only been justified if a military purpose was attached to it