Why are fat people fat? A lot of the girls here are overweight, and I always find it a little confusing. In order to become less prejudiced towards fat people I’d like to ask you anons how you got so fat and why you remain fat. Is your family fat too? At what age did you get fat?
Most fatty-chans are lazy and eat too much, and other fatty-chans have hormonal problems of some kind.
All of them are fat and probably think it's ok.
I was fat in high school because I liked to eat garbage food. Then I'd hate myself (for other reasons too) so I'd eat more garbage food to feel better. I was also a fakeboi at the time if that clues you in to how weird my relationship was with my body.
Some people are fat because of binge eating disorder though and I feel the worst for them, although I think they can overcome it I'm sure it's difficult. I also feel bad for people with genuine hormone or thyroid disorders since they have to eat a very low deficit to be average weight, so if they're just chubby I certainly don't blame them.
Anyway there's often no reason to hate a fat person unless they're also an asshole, op. Usually they're just struggling because of being brought up with poor nutrition within the family (as you suspected) or they at least already hate themselves for you.
…I may be saying this because I'm attracted to short chubby girls though heh.
I was always an overweight kid, always 10 or so lbs more than I should have weighed. I just had a large appetite, it would take a lot more for me to feel satisfied than other kids. While I did eat junk food too I think in general my diet was pretty normal, just my portion sizes were too big. I always had poor self esteem due to this, it got worse because I hit puberty and got acne faster than anyone else I knew (around 9).
When I was 14 I took a good look at myself and decided that I would make a good effort to lose weight. I was 160 lbs at 5'4. So it went really well at first, I used a calorie counter and frequented fat people hate threads to motivate myself. So after 8 months I lost 50 lbs. However my mother was concerned about me and took me to a doctor, at the time I had no objections because I felt good about myself, all I did was follow /fit/'s sticky and I felt great physically and mentally. Apparently my resting heart rate was low and I had osteopenia so I got diagnosed with anorexia and made to gain weight. I was really angry about it because I felt that all of my hard work was ruined. When I vented online about this before I was called a liar and that it's not possible for me to be anorexic at 110. That felt very hurtful because it felt that others were invalidating my experience of being forced into a mental facility against my will, having to transfer schools, having my father scream at me in public because I was wasting money for treatment, etc.
Eventually I said fuck it and told myself if they wanted me to gain weight so badly I would and developed BED lol. I ended up being 180 lbs at my highest. Now I am more or less stable at 160 lbs, back where I started.
Even though I am overweight I don't really feel that bad about it anymore. I think I look pretty normal where I live anyways. So that is why I am overweight basically. My entire family is like me, overweight but not to a terribly disgusting degree.
fat children are parenting fault, its the same as if children were underfed, you're destroying child's health by neglectful care during the time their bodies and characters grow, it's like giving cigarettes to 5 year old kids
if you have thyroid issues there is danger of getting fat way easier than normally but proper diet should maintain your weight so that is not really an excuse
also read on ketosis, that diet makes people drop 100+ pounds in a year without any excercise because eating too much carbs causes the fat you eat to build up, once you cut ALL carbs you'll start using fat for energy and then you can stuff your ass full off scrambled eggs and bacon and still lose weight without excercize. people who say keto is dangerous simply make mistake of equating ketoacidosis (very deadly state to be in) and ketosis (state that in no way destroys your internal organs)
I think people are hating on fat because since sugar is addictive its industry made shitload of money and lobbied for studies in 60s about how fat is the cause of obesity and not sugar, the truth is exactly the opposite
my mom used to be really skinny but blew up like a balloon when she got pregnant with me. she then spent over 20 years instilling in me how ugly it was to be fat, but did nothing to change that about her and that also made me really fat since she never cooked (even though she was a good cook) and left me alone all day with tons of garbage in the pantry. of course i thought being fat was just my fate since my mom made it sound like she was burdened with fatness and just couldn't overcome it. which is nonsense, obviously.
i dropped 90lbs so far and i want to lose another 50. she's very jealous and keeps commenting on it, but we live apart now and i only see her 3-4 times a year so it doesn't bother me too much. i'm just proud of my progress.
Was always slim, turned ana during my younger teens, then yoyo-ed back, looked healthy (still very slim), mental illness tells me being a normal weight is disgusting, tried to lose again by fasting, taking pills etc, only makes it worse, gain more and more, finish school, don't find friends in uni, feel like an ugly, fat and undesireable loser, eat at night to feel better - boom, and now I'm really overweight.
I try to lose weight, but restricting makes me feel so insanely sad and empty (emotionally). And although it's been ages since I starved myself, I still tend to quickly obsess over it, like "punishing" myself by skipping whole meals if I just go a tiny bit over whatever limit I set myself. It feels like I can only either starve or binge, eating moderately is not possible. Even as a child I already stuffed myself to the point of crying out of pain, I was just lucky to be a naturally skinny kid. My family has also always eaten very unhealthily.
I currently eat how much I want, because I have my final exam coming up and then I have nearly 3 months of free time to hopefully finally turn my eating habits around.
My dad has a beer belly, my mom is underweight and my siblings are slim.
I weigh 200lbs now. Ideally I would of course still want to be model skinny, but 130 is the lowest somebody my height should weigh, so I'll set that as my goal.
Still think this is a bait thread. I looked up a lot to Karlie during my ed years and she spoke so often about her disordered eating, she famously only drank 1 hot cocoa a day (when she felt like she was about to faint), so why chose her as a positive example for weight?
I think for me it was a number of factors.
>years of small bad eating decisions adding up slowly over time, mainly concerning portions (turns out if you eat healthy food you still have to watch portions)
>being in denial about all those small decisions even though I could see my jeans size going up and knew I was fat, I just didn't want to see where it was all coming from or deal with it
>sugar, sometimes junk food but often just homemade baked goods
>sleep apnea which I only recently got diagnosed
>decades of depression
>meds for various shit including depression
>genetics, obviously genes didn't directly make me fat but after watching the other women in my family struggle to lose weight in spite of eating fairly healthy, I believe it's made it harder to lose the weight caused by my bad decision making
>I have sensory processing disorder and honestly I think that contributed slightly, because the feeling of hunger is really distracting. I used to work a mentally demanding job with a lot of distractions and hunger was a huge distraction, so I'd eat whatever kept me full the longest and also I snacked too much
I've actually lost about 20 lbs. in the last year without really doing anything but eating more vegetables and making rules about my portion sizes. Hopefully I can build on those habits and drop another 50 or so before my knees are completely destroyed.
Forgot to add, I was a normal weight for my height (though tall for my age) til puberty hit. I was a bit chubby in junior high, somewhat overweight in high school, dropped some weight in the first year of college, then ballooned in my sophomore and junior years and haven't been below 200 since. So I've been 5'7" and over 200 lbs. since like 1995.
High school, escapism. I don't have a future so the effort would go to waste, if I had hope in other areas of life I would've cared.
To be fair mainstream dietary advice is just absolute garbage. Calories in, calories out is just about the worst advice you can give to someone who's trying to lose weight. With CICO you're fighting against starvation, which is a battle that you're likely going to lose. Even if you do lose weight on a calorie restricted diet there's a good chance that it will return once you resume normal eating.
It's almost a settled science, though governments and the healthcare industry are just too proud to admit it, but if you want a surefire way of losing weight just stop eating carbs, or even plants altogether. It goes against all conventional wisdom, but fat doesn't make you fat, nor is it bad for your health. Like it's very hard to overeat on meat. Your body will very quickly tell you when it has had enough meat.
I hope this is bait. calories in calories out is fact, you wont gain weight when you "resume normal eating" because youre supposed to make a lifestyle change, not crash diet. starvation mode is a myth
carbs being bad is fringe science popularised by crackpots given a spotlight by idiots like joe rogan. not eating vegetables (carnivore) isnt even fake science, its a political movement invented by incels who think eating meat makes them alpha males btfoing libtards XD. it has no health benefits and will likely give you cancer and heart disease
>>37578>carnivore was invented by incels
Very credible post.
Im sorry. popularised*. I cannot for a fact confirm, only speculate as to the original carnivores incel status
Doubling down on the credibility. And I suppose that keto was popularized by the Nazis.
I already told you keto was popularised by joe rogan and the pseudo scientists he has on his show. it is the dietary equivalent of flat earth and has been popularised by people on places like /fit/ who want to be counter culture
the benefits on weightloss of being in a state of ketosis are far out weighed by the negatives of gylocogen depletion caused by not consuming enough carbs. the negative affect of carbs on insulin is blown way out of proportion by said pseudo scientists, especially if the carb sources are from rice, potatoes, oats etc. ofcourse your insulin is going to be fucked if you stuff yourself with cake and haribos. the concepts of diets that restricted certain food groups all together is also mentally unhealthy, although can work if it suits a very certain personality type. the same concept applies to intermittent fasting
>>37594>I already told you keto
You said carnivore.
>the negatives of gylocogen depletion caused by not consuming enough carbs.
Well that's a new criticism that I haven't heard before. When you're not eating carbs your body just synthesizes the energy, or glucose, that it needs out of fat. No fat storage required :)
can you read?>carbs being bad is fringe science popularised by crackpots given a spotlight by idiots like joe rogan
this was talking about keto obviously
>Well that's a new criticism that I haven't heard before. When you're not eating carbs your body just synthesizes the energy, or glucose, that it needs out of fat. No fat storage required :)
you clearly dont know alot about biology, please stop giving advice to people
>Why are fat people fat?
They're just the way God made them, ma'am.
>>37601>can you read?>carbs being bad is fringe science popularised by crackpots given a spotlight by idiots like joe rogan
this was talking about keto obviously
Very petty nitpicking. You only mentioned carnivore in your original post, so I assume you were talking about carnivore.
>you clearly dont know alot about biology, please stop giving advice to people
its not nitpicking I literally said anti carb, aka keto. its clear to anyone my first criticism was of keto and my second was of carnivore
if you want useful info to correct your misunderstandings about diet that is in a easily understood form for laymen such as yourself I suggest you look at renaissance periodisation
>>37604>if you want useful info to correct your misunderstandings about diet that is in a easily understood form for laymen such as yourself I suggest you look at renaissance periodisation
Why can't you enlighten us?
I did but youre too brainwashed and/or have such a need to be privy to special info you wont listen. and articles and videos produced by professional will do a better job than me anyway. also >us
there is no "us". youre a singular crackpot lol
>>37604>if you want useful info to correct your misunderstandings about diet that is in a easily understood form for laymen such as yourself I suggest you look at renaissance periodisation
hahaha this is an imageboard, professor. Eat a frosty nutritious tit.
Glycogen depletion? Seriously?
only if the tit is frosted with carbs>>37609
the human body needs carbs as a source of glycogen that is a fact. high fat diets and high meat diets cause cancer and heart disease, this is a fact, no matter how much you protest this is "out of date" or a conspiracy by sugar companies. it is not out of date, they "new evidence" that is coming out comes from crackpot pseudo scientists. you have not provided any info as to the benefits of keto or carnivore at all. youre an idiot sufferning from the dunning kruger affect and should stop spreading harmful and useless non-science
>>37610>the human body needs carbs as a source of glycogen that is a fact.>youre an idiot sufferning from the dunning kruger affect
it has been show that ketogenic diets have a negligible difference in weight loss than other diets when controlled for calories - fact
fat is a far far less efficient source of glycogen and unless youre a sedentary neet youre going to feel that lack of energy - fact
ketogenic diets, and restrictive diets in general for most people are harder to adhere to, and adherence is the single most important factor in the effectiveness of any diet - fact
high consumption of fat and meat are directly linked to increased all cause mortality rates, rates of cancer, rates of heart disease and rates of many other diseases - fact
keto is shilled by morons on /fit/ crackpot pseudo scientists - fact
>>37613>it has been show that ketogenic diets have a negligible difference in weight loss than other diets when controlled for calories - fact
I have never heard this. One of the reasons keto diets are so effective is because they are so simple to follow and satiating.
>fat is a far far less efficient source of glycogen and unless youre a sedentary neet youre going to feel that lack of energy - fact
I don't why you keep zeroing in on glycogen. You don't need glycogen. Your body can produce all the energy it needs from fat, and as a bonus it won't store what it doesn't need. The carnivore diet has only improved my energy levels, like I don't need the need to take a nap at 3pm everyday anymore.
>ketogenic diets, and restrictive diets in general for most people are harder to adhere to, and adherence is the single most important factor in the effectiveness of any diet - fact
No, like I said earlier these diets are simple and easy to follow. Especially carnivore. Only eat meat, eat when you're hungry, stop eating when you're not hungry, and choose fattier cuts of meat. No calorie counting or macro tracking required.
>high consumption of fat and meat are directly linked to increased all cause mortality rates, rates of cancer, rates of heart disease and rates of many other diseases - fact
In observational studies, yes. People who eat a lot of meat on a standard American diet tend to eat a lot of refined carbs.
>keto is shilled by morons on /fit/ crackpot pseudo scientists - fact
I wouldn't know.
>>37615>I have never heard this
that doesnt affect the fact that it is true
>You don't need glycogen. Your body can produce all the energy it needs from fat. carnivore diet has only improved my energy levels
your anecdotal evidence is meaningless. most people will be negatively affected by it and the science shows less glycogen is available to the point it can negatively affect you >as a bonus it won't store what it doesn't need
this is literally false sensationalism made up to shill a meme diet
>In observational studies, yes. People who eat a lot of meat on a standard American diet tend to eat a lot of refined carbs
no there is a direct causal link. attributing it to carbs and not fat/meat would only be done by someone with a complete lack of understanding of the function of these substances in the body
>No, like I said earlier these diets are simple and easy to follow. Especially carnivore. Only eat meat, eat when you're hungry, stop eating when you're not hungry, and choose fattier cuts of meat.
the fact is most people will not enjoy doing that and will not adhere. most people are not freaks like you who want to eat meat all day >No calorie counting or macro tracking required
just because youre too dumb to count. the only reason you have lost weight on your diet is by accidentally eating fewer calories than you burn, it has nothing to do with what youre actually eating
>I wouldn't know
because morons usually dont know theyre morons
cba to reply anymore. basically dont follow this persons advice they have been brainwashed by memes and fad diets for autistic people. you will get bowel cancer if you do
You can always experiment with these diets yourself to prove me wrong.
Just try keto or carnivore for a month or two. I promise it won't kill you ;)
I dont need to, Im already a healthy weight, compete in multiple sports and have plenty of energy. I am experimenting with reducing meat to reduce risk of cancer and heart disease tho
>>37610>the human body needs carbs as a source of glycogen that is a fact.>there is such thing as an essential carb>the human body doesn't produce its own glucose through gluconeogenesis.
its far less efficient and if youre an even remotely active person it will tank your energy. you dont need it to live but you need it to function at a reasonable level
why are you making up such bullshit? Who the hell thinks fats have less energy than carbs? That's so retarded. You need more oxygen to burn fat than carbs because carbs (glucose) is already partially oxidized. Why do you think fats have more calories than carbs? You need less amount of fat to burn the same caloric amount of carbs.
I didnt say fat has less energy. it actually has more per gram (7 cal per gram compared to 4), your body turns it into glycogen less efficiently so you feel tired
Then why is fat less efficient if you need to consume less fat to equal the same caloric amount of carbs?
I think you're missing something here. Here's a hint: ketogenic.
Because I'm a glutton and love eating yummy shitty foods everyday. I also have poor self control in other areas of my life such as technology addiction, sleeping schedule and procrastination. I've been overweight since around second grade. I'm actually considered the upper end of "normal" according to BMI but I don't carry weight well at all and look huge.
I was a stick insect for most of my life and I outright enjoy being chubby now.
I'm so cuddly and I love curling up feeling my belly in my pj's.
I'm not morbidly obese tho.
I'm 27 bmi. Was skinny up until I was about 10… slowly started gaining and then when puberty hit at around 13, I became skinny fat and never recovered from that. About a year ago I just become fat fat instead of skinny fat.
For those discussing keto, NTA really, but my dad's a doc and talked to to doctor who came up with the keto diet. His focus for the diet was on emergency weight loss for the morbidly obese rather than for the general population to use.
I'm currently at a 25 BMI – I don't eat a ton or eat awful foods, but my two main barriers to being more fit are not exercising (lol) and being only 5 feet tall. I don't exercise because I feel really uncomfortable and weird in my body. I don't want other people to see my body moving and I don't want to feel my body moving. I basically hate having a body, it grosses me out and I don't like to be reminded of it.
>depressed as a teenager and used food to cheer myself up as I had nobody to turn to
>mom puts me on every diet imaginable from a young age which probably fucked up my metabolism
>mom also forces her eating disorder on me by encouraging starving/bingeing behaviour and ruining my self-esteem by telling me that I'm fat (I wasn't back then) and nobody will love me
>get a boyfriend who also comfort eats and we enable each other
>get into a cycle of crash dieting and bingeing when I'm depressed
>can't afford a therapist to help me with my issues
>literally never developed any hobbies outside of food so my life revolves around either eating or avoiding food
Exercise is crap for losing weight compared to just eating less. You can't out-exercise a bad diet.
i'm not exactly fat, but definitely damn near. i have binge eating disorder thats triggered by my anxiety, then on top of that i have a food phobia. so i really only eat garbage things (much like a three year olds palate). overall, i eat too much all at once and i eat four different things that are all carbtastic, but i'm too afraid of food to try anything else. i'm probably just going to stop eating one of these days, if i can.
also, identified as ftm for some time, so. my relationship with my body is rocky at best.
i am scared to find out my actual weight right now. All i can say is that last time i've weight myself i was 52kg for 1m65. I often feel bad after eating food, especially if it is at friend's houses. I wish i could 100% enjoy food without overstressing about it.
Other than that i am just afraid of gaining weight. I've tried multiple things to lose weight like skipping meals, reducing my calorie intake and exercice. My lowest weight was 46kg. Other than this i am just scared of becoming fat so i do not answer OP's question. Sorry im off topic.
Freshman 80 lol
Just remember to hit them gym hard and eat better than you used to
yeah, i've actually had good results from intermittant fasting (basically only eating between 12pm-7pm). i lost about 15 lbs this spring and it's been pretty easy to maintain my current weight even though i'm not that strict about my feeding window anymore. IF gave me some good habits, like no more nighttime snacking and only drinking water, black coffee, and seltzer.
I don't think there's any excuse to be fat these days unless you are forced to lead a sedentary life (like an office job). Otherwise, it comes down to a lack of self control. Don't talk to me about your "thyroid problem".
Fat-shaming is fine in my book. I can't stand this movement for "fat acceptance". You want to ruin your body and chance at having a healthy heart when you're 50? Fine. But don't tell me it's beautiful that you can't walk up more than two flights of stairs without losing your breath.
Keto is only for people who have seizure disorders and is to be done under the constant supervision of a certified doctor. It's a great way to lose weight, yes. It's also a great way to develop an eating disorder and destroy your body because you didn't do it right. >>39315
IF is a meme.
>>39317>IF is a meme
I think it depends on the person, it's more of a technique than the magical cure people tout it as. I mean if you're a binge eater it will do fuck all since you'll just binge during your window.
But I'm biased since it personally helped me lose 50 lbs as a grazer, along with other dietary tweaks (only eating chicken, fish, beans, oats, rice, and veggies with no liquid calories) and lifting.
I still stand by what I said in that I think its ridiculous that some people tout it as this revolutionary idea when in reality its nothing more than skipping breakfast. I think people call it IF because it sounds more official, and that method of validating something can be harmful and straight up dangerous for some people.
However, congratulations on your achievement. If this technique is helping you, then by all means go for it. I hope you continue to improve your physical health in a healthy and sustainable way.