1568103417457.png Anonymous 09/19/19 (Thu) 01:54:21 AM 40600
Is it true most men are closet pedos who simply don't act on their desires?
Anonymous 09/19/19 (Thu) 05:34:31 AM 40606 >>40600
All men in all cultures throughout history married and/or had sex with little girls as a cultural normal and it's only changed very recently and not even in every countries.
The only way it's NOT true is if somehow, all men in first world countries simultaneously evolved to no longer be attracted to children precisely went it became taboo to do so.
Anonymous 09/19/19 (Thu) 06:13:07 AM 40607 >>40606
That doesnt mean all men are pedos.
Anonymous 09/19/19 (Thu) 06:40:40 AM 40608 >>40600
Lots of them would probably at least be hebephiles if they could get away with it though.
Anonymous 09/19/19 (Thu) 02:19:13 PM 40614
image.png >>40606 >and it's only changed very recently
Anonymous 09/19/19 (Thu) 05:00:15 PM 40617
Thinking something is cute != wanting to fuck it.
I got some serious conversation about it with my bf, he thinks that cats/muffins/kids/etc are cute, but surely he don't want to fuck them for example. Hovever most men don't know how to act with something they think is cute. My dad for a long time said that he don't want any cat around his house, but i stashed garbage-place cat anyway. He always screamed that he doesn't want this "fluffy faggot", "furry ass flea transporter", etc coming close to him or even set a paw into bedroom. But when i moved out with cat he was uterrly depressed, and 3 days after literally cried, so i had to leave cat with him. Anonymous 09/19/19 (Thu) 05:00:48 PM 40618
A tiny minority of men are pedophiles, meaning sexually attracted to pre-pubescent children.
But almost all men are hebephiles, meaning sexually attracted to post-pubescent teenagers, which in some countries like America is legally and culturally not distinguished from pedophilia. Anonymous 09/19/19 (Thu) 11:34:43 PM 40659 >>40658
t. hard projecting "transwoman"
Anonymous 09/20/19 (Fri) 03:45:13 AM 40675
The average age that people marry and have children has gotten older as time went on for various reasons (mandatory schooling, two-income(wide-scale female employment) families, etc.) What was a "young lady", "maiden", etc. and of eligible marrying age back when is a "teenager" now, and off limits even to guys who aren't that much older than them (graduated high school and/or in college.), mainly because of a perceived difference in maturity between them and the guys.
There is a biological factor in this. Younger=(on the whole)healthier= more fertile= more and healthier kids to pass on your genes.
So, basically, marrying at younger ages was more usual than it is now because of various causes related to the changing times, but it being usual in the past to marry at going ages (as it seems to us now) doesn't excuse people(of either gender) coveting (/lusting over) children decades younger than them because of their age. Not back then, not now.
Speaking (or typing) about this, it reminds me of an interesting story I read about a related topic that happened in the Victorian age. I'll link to it here.
https://timeline.com/child-prostitution-stead-eliza-armstrong-a3c0aa00b860 Anonymous 09/20/19 (Fri) 03:48:19 AM 40676 >>40675
*The diminishing number of rural jobs (people being employed as farmers) and rise of industrial (/urban) jobs has to do with it too.
Anonymous 09/20/19 (Fri) 04:07:31 AM 40677 >>40600
Not really, I know a lot of men that are heavily into "thicc" and "milf" types.
I believe that being into people much yeonger means you are either austistic (and so because of your retarded mental age relate to parthers much younger), abusive (into the power dynamics), or an old fart in denial of his age (wants to relive its youth).
The normal, healthy thing is to share life with someone that is on your same level, at least mentally and physically.
Anonymous 09/20/19 (Fri) 06:21:39 PM 40691 >>40600
But what's the actual difference between having sex with a kid and with an adult if cast the laws invented by humans aside? Modern kids at 13 have bodies of 20+ adults, while adults at 20+ have minds of 13 year old kids.
Anonymous 09/20/19 (Fri) 08:31:27 PM 40702 >>40691 > Modern kids at 13 have bodies of 20+ adults
No they don't. You don't stop growing until you are in your actual 20s. Girls might start their periods and grow breasts during puberty but their hips won't be wide enough to give birth then, especially considering how big babies' heads are these days.
If fertility was the real reason, guys would be more turned on by stretch marks and "droopy" breasts. Nothing is a better indication of the fertility of a woman than having already given birth.
Anonymous 09/20/19 (Fri) 09:01:03 PM 40704 >>40702
But isn't having sex a slightly different thing from making a baby?
Anonymous 09/20/19 (Fri) 09:13:25 PM 40705 >>40704
True but your lizard brain isn't thinking about having for fun
Anonymous 09/20/19 (Fri) 10:51:40 PM 40709
I think most people are capable of feeling sexual attraction for people of any reproductive age.
Historically, people didn't have the luxury of choice. That doesn't necessarily mean that men always married young girls; Frederick II married Constance of Aragon when he was 14 and she was 30. Anonymous 09/21/19 (Sat) 09:12:58 AM 40729 >>40675
But it is a myth that it was ok to marry 12 yr olds. that kinda only happened in nobility for inheritance and political reasons and was mostly agreed upon that the consummation of marriage came way after the marriage when the bride was of age.
Why would medieval men impregnate a 12 yr olds? knowing that even for 18 yr olds the death rate during child labour was high as fuck? even taking morals out of the equation it is still not very smart move. Its probably way more normalized to sexualize children today than in old times, in old times it was preferable to have kids work in their teens rather than giving birth and having sex or dancing semi naked while singing pop songs about drugs and anal.
It would have been more normal to see 16+ yr olds doing it but in most of the world now 16 yr is above age of consent and is not abnormal to think of a 16 yr old teenager having sex, its only more abnormal to think of them marrying at that age.
Anonymous 09/21/19 (Sat) 08:20:18 PM 40768 >>40705
How can you know? Those who sexually interested in children are often immature themselves. They rather need a love doll to play with than a wife to bear their children.
Anonymous 09/22/19 (Sun) 12:38:44 AM 40773 >>40729
So basically that 12 yo myth is pushed by pedophiliac scrotes who want pedophilia to be normalised in modern day society
Anonymous 09/22/19 (Sun) 12:40:42 AM 40774 >>40675
Nigga, the most fertile and safest years to have a child for a woman is between 19 to 30, not anything below that. Childbirth complications is more common for girls under 19 than it is for that target range, which makes sense because the adult and feminine look becomes pronounced during this years. It doesnt add up.
Anonymous 09/22/19 (Sun) 03:24:56 AM 40778 >>40774
childhood mortality rates used to be extremely high. maximizing the number of times a woman is pregnant maximizes the number of children who will ultimately make it to adulthood. waiting until some arbitrary later point after she is able to have children just wastes possible opportunities.
it's not relevant in our modern context, but in a more primitive condition it's most efficient to have women reproducing asap. maybe younger girls have a higher likelihood of complications, but younger people also heal more easily.
Anonymous 09/22/19 (Sun) 05:55:55 AM 40782 >>40778
Even so thats a lie as fuck because it was around 16+
Anonymous 12/13/19 (Fri) 01:53:37 PM 43828 >>43822 Pedo moid detected. Anonymous 12/14/19 (Sat) 07:19:52 PM 43907
don't want to sympathize with the moid who was in this thread but he had a point imo, pedos shouldn't be grouped with guys who are attracted to 16 yos and such. have you seen 16 year olds? it is morally reprehensible for adult men to seduce them because they are easy to manipulate and more impulsive/don't consider the long-term consequences, but on a physical level they're not much different from adult women. calling them pedos just helps actual pedos play the "victim of society" role and make it seem like a sexual orientation thing when they are actually not only morally corrupt but also mentally fucked up aberrations.
Anonymous 12/15/19 (Sun) 01:05:56 AM 43929
Maybe not all men but my experience with discord and online games has taught me that the amount of men who are into extremely young girls is kind of terrifying. Because of the anonymonity of the internet they seek out their desires in ways they never would irl and it really shoes their true colours. My friend sounds about 18 and the amount of older men who try to hit on her because they think she is underage has made me think the male sex is a failed species.
Anonymous 12/15/19 (Sun) 01:22:20 AM 43930
I haven’t visited 4chan in a while and so I went on /b/ and saw a thread of men saying they wish they could fuck 16-year-olds. I wish they would all die.
Anonymous 12/15/19 (Sun) 02:19:27 AM 43935 >>43930
That's what you get for going to /b/ in 2019
Anonymous 12/15/19 (Sun) 09:10:44 PM 43975 >>40606
I mean, biologically a 16/17 year old girl isn't that different from a 18/19 year old girl. I think most guys don't feel attracted to underage girls but if you took the time to read old literature or talk to older relatives the attitudes concerning what is underage and was moral and was not was completely different back in the day.
Anonymous 12/15/19 (Sun) 10:20:13 PM 43979 >>43977 >grown men being legally allowed to have sex with children is a good thing Please leave. Anonymous 12/16/19 (Mon) 02:24:21 AM 43987 >>43981 >>43980 Begone moids
Anonymous 01/05/20 (Sun) 11:33:38 AM 45160
if theyre past puberty then yes theyre going to have secondary sex characteristics such as developed breasts, curvy frame etc, things which men are specifically designed to find attractive, it's just a biological fact so let's not delude ourselves and get all outraged. And let's not act like it's not true for men too. a 16-17yo guy is underage but hes going to have muscles, be tall, have pronounced features etc. from a biological standpoint puberty is what defines us as being adult. All other definitions of 'adult' are socially constructed. Social definitions of adultness serve to protect those who may be biologically matured but are still psychologically, socially and economically vulnerable. So no men aren't just walking around thinking about how much they'd like to spank a high schooler, it doesn't work like that, so stop thinking everyone who acknowledges this fact is a 'closet pedo' or whatever. Look, there's a difference between getting a boner and wanting to fuck something, it's totally different. if you take a high school aged girl and sit her on the lap of any normal non-pedophilic male, hes gonna pop a boner, it's not a matter of choice, you don't get to choose when you get a boner it's automatic. i've literally studied boners so i know. And that does NOT mean he's a pedophile, that's a totally different set of traits with a totally different mechanism to it.
Clinical study supporting what I've said:
And yes I'm a WOMAN
Anonymous 01/05/20 (Sun) 12:19:00 PM 45161 >>45160 >i've literally studied boners so i know
please share more of your boner wisdom with us, what you wrote is interesting
Anonymous 01/06/20 (Mon) 11:14:46 PM 45209 >>40617 >He always screamed that he doesn't want this "fluffy faggot", "furry ass flea transporter", etc coming close to him or even set a paw into bedroom.
I 'm dying with laughter over here
Anonymous 02/28/20 (Fri) 09:31:28 PM 48107
So other men murder pedophiles because they're…projecting?
Anonymous 02/29/20 (Sat) 02:45:21 AM 48131 >>40677
Any guy I’ve met who strongly prefer much younger women fall into one of those three categories. Trying to fuck or getting into a relationship with a 13-17 year old is too far for the modern 25+ man, even if we assume they were attracted to the minor and you were to take away legal reasons to not do it (dealing with teenager shit, no potential second income, pissed off parents who probably hate you, all of your buddies roasting you for being a pedo for the rest of your life).
Any man who would still go for a young girl despite these massive downsides just wants someone who will be impressed by him and knows he’s too pathetic to get anything else imo.
Anonymous 03/01/20 (Sun) 11:08:11 PM 48307 >>48107
Probably. The people who get the most outraged are the most guilty of all. It would not surprise me of the majority of men were interested in fucking girls 14+ and up. Any lower than that would be unusual though.
Anonymous 03/02/20 (Mon) 03:05:32 AM 48324 >>48307
That was the norm for the majority of history.
Nature wants fertility, it doesn't care about brain development.
Anonymous 03/02/20 (Mon) 08:50:34 AM 48333 >>48324
natural =/= good
fuck off, pedo
Anonymous 03/02/20 (Mon) 08:05:49 PM 48364 >much ancient civilizations were fucking little girls Retards. Most civilizations not based on Islam had similar rules to each other. You could sometimes marry young girls, but to fuck them was either prohibited or extremely shameful. Usually this was done so the man could call dibs early, and wait till they grew older. The want for virgins and younger women was to ensure the child born was the man's, and not anyone elses. Anonymous 05/08/20 (Fri) 05:51:19 AM 52033 >>48307 >Probably. The people who get the most outraged are the most guilty of all
By that logic, what does this say about the majority of posters in this thread?
Anonymous 05/08/20 (Fri) 07:08:56 AM 52034
Pedophilic moids are a huge part of the reason why I want to kill myself. All the mansplaining is really making me contemplate it tonight. How are you attracted to a literal child??
Pedos need to be castrated or shot in the head. I have no remorse for them and I get joy when I see stories of pedophiles getting raped or beat up almost to the point of death in prison. Pedophilia is not normal and never will be. GTFO if you think pedophilia is normal because you're fucking retarded and sick in the head. Anonymous 05/08/20 (Fri) 07:40:44 AM 52037 >>52036 no its not you sick piece of shit Anonymous 05/08/20 (Fri) 09:27:27 AM 52040 >>52036 You know nothing about children. That being said, hope you never come anywhere near them. Anonymous 05/09/20 (Sat) 06:36:02 PM 52074
most men aren't pedos, but from what i gather nearly all men are hebes/ephebs. there's a lot of publicly available data from tinder and okcupid about how the most attractive age to men stays at 18 (as low as the app's dataset goes) their entire lives and it was eye opening. i don't think it's malicious necessarily, just that men stay retarded and are genuinely happy with a girl working minimum wage who just wants to play video games and eat mcdonalds with them forever. peter pan syndrome is very prevalent in men from what i can tell
Anonymous 05/09/20 (Sat) 08:04:42 PM 52083 >>52074
Agree with most of this apart from the Peter Pan syndrome. Men want someone they can control. They know what they are doing. A young woman who doesn't know any better or isn't very smart (even if just due to age) is perfect for them. The Peter Pan thing is an act.
I dated a few creepy older guys when I was younger and didn't know better and they all made a point to emphasise how much smarter they were than me (and how dumb I was in comparison) so they could control me and pressure me to do things I didn't want to. Men these days still think they are entitled to a female slave and will do anything they can to make it happen.
Anonymous 05/09/20 (Sat) 08:23:41 PM 52084 >>52083
i'm sorry you went through that. i don't know though… i think a lot of men really are satisfied with a girl who's as perpetually adolescent as they are, which is why you have so many men in their 20s on discord with underage league of legends gfs or whatever. i don't think they're acting, they just really don't care. i know some men are into milfs but men in general seem to be not really affected by the ambition or security a woman has.
Anonymous 05/09/20 (Sat) 08:39:17 PM 52089 >>52084
I don't think they are acting, some just inherently entitled and believe their partner should look up to them. Women their own age demand that their own feeling and needs be acknowledged but men don't like that and so don't date them.
Anonymous 05/09/20 (Sat) 08:42:08 PM 52090 >>52083
that could be, i think usually it's more so that they're losers and that women their age don't want to date a dude who just plays video games and lives at home. guys have no problem dating women who do the same, at least my ex-bf didn't mind that i'm a neet
Anonymous 05/09/20 (Sat) 10:01:48 PM 52106 >>52074 >there's a lot of publicly available data from tinder and okcupid about how the most attractive age to men stays at 18 (as low as the app's dataset goes)
I wonder what the most common/preferred age for female users was.
Anonymous 05/09/20 (Sat) 10:33:17 PM 52108 >>52106
Not her but I saw a similar study (maybe it was the same she saw) and for women it tended to be about 5 to 10 years older than themselves. So for examples for 20 years old women they would seek men between 25 and 30. For 30 years old women it was men between 35 and 40. And so on.
Anonymous 05/12/20 (Tue) 03:54:47 PM 52175 >>40600
What separate men from boys in civilized society is men know self-control and don't act on a whim. If you take a critical look at not only raising of children but also education big part of it is to train self-control and teach delayed gratification. This is why boys have harder time in school when it comes to rules anything they are forced to do is polar opposite of what their feelings tell them to. If there is not a civilized society boys grow into savages. This is why when you look at some random african shithole you will find a child militia usually consisting of teen boys and led by a young men whos only concern is how they can kill the men of the nearby village and rape the women. Savages. Right now you are probably asking yourself
>how can a trust a man if they are all like this
Let me tell you. Knowing what is acceptable and what not and trying to suppress it is better than avoiding and burry your head in the sand. The most greedy, evil or narcissistic people don't realize they are greedy, evil or narcissistic.
Yeah 15 yo with D cups may be 15 and underage but your brain tells you otherwise. When I made a family tree as a kid a noticed 2 of my great grandmothers had their first kid at 16. One was second marriage to my great grandfather whos first wife died from spanish flu. He was twice her age. This was normal less tha a 100 years ago and in a history term this is like yesterday.
Anonymous 05/12/20 (Tue) 04:06:38 PM 52177 >>52175
I feel bad for straight women.
Anonymous 05/14/20 (Thu) 04:41:54 PM 52216
Yes this is very true. When society allows it and there is no stigma they all become pedos, just look at Muslim countries, that is men's nature. We need eugenics to fix men's pedo genes.
Anonymous 05/15/20 (Fri) 03:05:50 AM 52232 >>52216
This is because of Muslim culture. In many other cultures, they do not exhibit such behavior.
Anonymous 05/15/20 (Fri) 07:22:27 AM 52237 >>52232 >In many other cultures, they do not exhibit such behavior.
yeah keep kidding yourself. people love to blame culture, race, religion, geography literally anything before admitting that the real problem is men.
Anonymous 05/15/20 (Fri) 07:25:57 AM 52239 >>52237
Yeah, all men are pedos and awful, is just a fact
Anonymous 05/15/20 (Fri) 11:31:29 AM 52242 >>52237 >>52239
imagine believing this when all matriachies in history practised pedophile behaviour.
Anonymous 05/15/20 (Fri) 11:44:03 PM 52256 >>52242
I'm not sure if
matriarchal societies did (and it may depend on what your definition of "pedophilia" is) but when people act as if sexual assault, abuse, and child abuse are "male problems" it disregards and invalidates the boys and girls who were victims of predatory and abusive women.
Anonymous 05/16/20 (Sat) 12:00:53 AM 52257 >>52256
Is almost as if there is assholes in both genders
Anonymous 05/16/20 (Sat) 12:09:19 AM 52259 >>52257
Of course there are, hence why I say it's not specifically a "male" problem.
It's just that there'd be some people here who believe any and all of society and humanity's problems are because of men. Anonymous 05/16/20 (Sat) 01:00:12 AM 52260 >>52259
no it's just that statistically most violent/sexual crimes are committed by men.
Anonymous 05/16/20 (Sat) 01:20:16 AM 52264 >>52260
is that still a good reason to generalize all men or forget about boys/guys being abused by women? From what I heard, the statistics of domestic violence are getting pretty close to each other.
Anonymous 05/16/20 (Sat) 01:27:03 AM 52266 >>52260
That isn't an excuse to disregard the experiences of victims of predatory and abusive women, especially when claiming to care about abuse victims. 2018 statistics show that in the United States, more black men were arrested and incarcerated for violent crimes than white men - according to your logic, this means that violent crimes are a "black male problem", disregarding what anyone who was the victim of a violent crime committed by someone who wasn't black, male, or a black man has experienced. The "x problem is entirely (group)'s fault" approach is simply refusing to acknowledge reality.
Not only boys who were abused by women, but girls who were abused by women as well. Apparently their experiences don't matter, since that situation invalidates their conveniently easy "men are the entire problem!" narrative.
Anonymous 05/16/20 (Sat) 01:40:08 AM 52267 >>52266
Exactly, even if it sounds memey the problem is because of S O C I E T Y.
Anonymous 05/16/20 (Sat) 12:39:22 PM 52279 >>52264
i was sexually abused by women but i still understand how statics works.
the issue that you're describing is us centric, meanwhile men commit sexual crimes proportionally more than women world wide. i think what you described is more of an economic issue than a race issue. i think unless white men and black men has the same living conditions you can't make the race analogy.
funny how i never said anything about disregarding the experiences of victims of predatory women or denied the existence of predatory women, you're just offended by basic pattern recognition.
Anonymous 05/16/20 (Sat) 07:15:42 PM 52285 >>40600
no, anon. "men" are not a coalescent entity. children aren't sexy to non-pedophiles lol
Anonymous 05/16/20 (Sat) 11:31:57 PM 52289 >>52279 >the issue that you're describing is us centric, meanwhile men commit sexual crimes proportionally more than women world wide. i think what you described is more of an economic issue than a race issue. i think unless white men and black men has the same living conditions you can't make the race analogy
This is a fair point, though there are likely other countries besides the US where there are statistical differences in crime rate between ethnic groups, the point being that a specific act can't be labeled a "(group) problem" if people not within that group are equally capable of committing that act.
>funny how i never said anything about disregarding the experiences of victims of predatory women or denied the existence of predatory women, you're just offended by basic pattern recognition.
Nothing in my post targeted specifically you. It was in reference to the sentiment expressed in past posts, like
, saying "we need eugenics to fix men's pedo genes" and "admitting that the real problem is men". These particular claims do, quite literally, attempt to erase the fact that there are female pedophiles (and abusers of all kinds) and that there are victims of female pedophiles.
Anonymous 05/22/20 (Fri) 05:13:29 AM 52411 >>52289
This is a pretty pathetic argument all around but men statistically commit the most crimes overall in pretty much every category. Even if you use the argument that female pedos exist they still don't to the extent of males, and female pedophiles are often victims of abuse themselves, unlike men.
inb4 but some men are abused too!
Yes, but not significantly enough in comparison to women. You can keep going on with this circular logic though.
Anonymous 05/22/20 (Fri) 05:18:14 AM 52413 >>52411 > female pedophiles are often victims of abuse themselves, unlike men.
Really? that bias is peeking over there. Not defending pedos though, neither moid or woman.
Anonymous 05/22/20 (Fri) 05:56:34 AM 52420 >>52411 >unlike men
This simply isn't true.
Anonymous 05/22/20 (Fri) 06:02:51 AM 52421 >>52285
yes, but you can't deny that, broadly, men's sexual attraction tends towards youth (see: terms such as barely legal, the "teens" genre, general trends of age differences between couples, old billionaires with the stereotype of young hot wives). The opposite of this does not exist for women. If anything, women seem to tend towards older men.
Anonymous 05/22/20 (Fri) 07:41:54 AM 52423 >>52411
Yes, men commit more violent crimes than women, and no one in this thread has denied that. The past posts in this thread have been explaining why it's imperative to respect people who were also the victims of female abusers and predators, rather than erasing them by pretending that violent crimes are solely a "male" issue. Did you not read any of the posts prior to yours before replying?
Likewise, there will always be men attracted to older women and women attracted to younger men, even if they aren't the majority group within their sex.
Anonymous 05/22/20 (Fri) 10:23:33 AM 52426 >>52421
Well, this works out doesn't it? (As long as both persons are adults obviously). If men and women both preferred younger partners, or both preferred older partners, it'd be hard to find a partner.