why is elliot rodgers such a whiny bitch?
i just read his manifesto and i stg there’s probably online fanfics penned by twelve year old girls with more emotional maturity. (maybe because he was coddled by his mother too much?)
more importantly, do incels actually relate to this (non-ironically)? if so, is the lack of self awareness not kind of cringy?
very strange to read.
I read it too. He was just a manlet with a micropenis that went crazy because Stacy said "no".
He just made his happiness rely on others, of course he'll never be happy like that.
The elliot worship was always largely ironic, at least for the moids that had anything close to a room temperature IQ.
This (what are "moids" though?), though I like to think most people didn't do it out of spite or anything, and either found him and the murders unfortunate (forgiveness and justice are not mutually exclusive) or did not care. Either way it was funny until it became semi-mainstream, I think because of that fucker "mumkey jones" or whatever.
Also,>You're stupid because you believe in something I do not!
this is normalfag-tier thinking.
Problem is the lurking autists actually do take it seriously. That Alek Minassian guy allegedly spoke with Elliot and looked up to him.
Also I kind of agree with that image. Years ago many people might have felt compassion for these type of men. Because of the media many people had this idea of "the poor bullied nerd and the asshole jocks". Now with all these attacks and online communities people realize that the "nerds" can actually be even worse and don't think they deserve any sympathy.
These are just my opinions, they could definitely be wrong.
>why is elliot rodgers such a whiny bitch?
He was raised to be extremely entitled due to his parents and his up bringing. He suffered from severe mental illness(not schizophrenia but probably something similar) and delusions that went untreated and undiagnosed. This mental illness left him extremely isolated and alone, which went against his world view that he was entitled and deserved social interaction and relationships simply for existing, obviously it's a normal expectation that a person be civilized and socialized to a certain degree to be socially successful.>do incels actually relate to this (non-ironically)?
It was more that he related to incels rather than incels related to him, he used common incel rhetoric to justify his world view(that he was deserving and entitled and it wasn't him that was the problem but all the other people who were the issue, and he had the various statistics to back it up and justify it)
What he did made him iconic, not just to incels but to society. There's definitely people that related to him, but there's people that are fans of richard ramirez, not just incels but women too.
>if so, is the lack of self awareness not kind of cringy?
Of course it's cringy.
He might have been the most shallow person to have ever existed. He was given a free ticket to a college course, a fancy BMW and a place to live in Santa Barbara and yet he was completely convinced that his family was poor and that he needed to win the lottery to be happy. Obviously he was mentally ill but I don't know how he could have been helped.
Rich kids who get everything they want tend to be shallow, yes. Specifically those from middle class families or nouveau riche.
>>58028>that he needed to win the lottery to be happy.
You fundamentally misunderstand Elliot Roger's mindset. Elliot Roger did not think he needed to win the lottery to be happy. In his own words, he felt that he was destined
to win the lottery. Not that he needed a good thing to happen to him, but that he deserved
to have good things happen to him.
Actually theyre right in a literal sense, the guy made multiple attempts to win the lottery in the belief it'll net him a loving gf and failed.
She's not right in a literal sense. He did not "hope" to win the lottery. The emotion of "hope" was not present in Elliot's mind, again, according to words by himself, he deserved
to win the lottery. Elliot drove 10 hours from California to Arizonia to get a winning lottery ticket as a foregone conclusion, in his mind, the buying of any of those tickets were a formality. He did not think getting money would get him a gf, he deserved a gf and he deserved money in his own mind.
Do not paint Elliot as some poor soul that was just looking for happiness, he was egomaniac. That deserves pity in a certain sense, but not the same kind.
He was a closet homosexual.
His sister didn't have the same mental illness as him, nor was she a narcissist.
yeah obviously the issue with elliot rodger was that he happened to be half white and asian, not that he was a socially inept autist
>>57143>(what are "moids" though?)
It's literally because he was mentally ill
i read an article about him once, he was basically in and out of therapy for his entire life since a very young age, and took a lot of psych meds over the years. diagnosed with learning disability and aspergers i think.
anyway, regarding OPs question:>more importantly, do incels actually relate to this (non-ironically)? if so, is the lack of self awareness not kind of cringy?
i think none of them relate to his writings, only to his actions. which is very ironic because he killed more men than women so his "revenge" against women was a colossal failure
He was a loser faggot who couldn't get laid
Anyone notice how it is always the more attractive (relatively speaking) of the incels who go on rampages?
I guess it's because they are the ones who are definitely mentally ill.
I don't know what the others look like but I never seen a truly repulsive looking moid on the news.
Ugly people seem to make murder really, really personal. I think ugly people probably use knives more than attractive people, and there's a lot of torture murderers and rapey serial killers who are extremely ugly. Better looking people seem to prefer spree killing over serial killing.
So it might just be that the not ugly ones we immediately label an "incels" whereas if you just see a rapist/murderer who is ugly, you just don't
Actually the most good-looking murderers are serial murderers like Richard Ramirez. Spree shooters are autistic dweebs.
You're right, the night stalker was a handsome guy and not a mutant at all.
to be fair, that picture’s pretty unfairly edited.
if he had a bit of dental work done and wasn’t a complete fking psycho, i’d definitely do a double take if i saw him on the street or something.
that's his real teeth in >>63088
, he had dental work in prison
Not that anon but I'd give him one even he had no teeeth.
He had strong delusions of grandeur. He never tried approaching any girls. He thought they would come to him.
Lets flip it then. Should I start approaching men, rather than waiting for them?
>>56972>why is elliot rodgers such a whiny bitch?
Mental illness combined with exceptional entitlement.>more importantly, do incels actually relate to this (non-ironically)?
The mentally ill ones do, that's why you see so many of them in places like 4chan. (well, on specific boards on 4chan)
What's stopping you?
You'd pretty much gain something of a monopoly in the dating market of boys too scared to
actually approach girls.
Plus it'd be a fair bit easier to get the kind of guy you want.
Some kinds of guys will just become yours if you're persistent enough (and corner them).
He shot innocent people…
>>56972>why is elliot rodgers such a whiny bitch?
It's called autism.