>never had irl bf before, no males interested in me
>random girl with her group of friends calls me over to ask if i think her friend is cute because he needs a gf
>i joke around/act really lighthearted about it because i'm too afraid of rejection but i try to show that i am interested in him
>send him two texts that are just joke flirting and he ignores them
>the next, call out something very purposefully silly (unsure of how to actually start a conversation while showing interest
>"hey babe do you still need a girlfriend" "are you friendzoning me?"
>he stays silent and just flips me off
>been in a huge crisis/anguish about this throughout all of this, think about him all day
>suddenly understand that he might just think i was messing with him instead of being cold and rejecting me
>im fucking dumb
d-does it sound like he thinks i was messing with him/im messing with him? how do i casually reverse this? i'll see him tomorrow again at lunch break
help help help
oh god i feel like the biggest dummy in the world i just didnt know what else to do
but im going to probably kill myself if it turns out he was just really rejecting me
I feel embarrassed reading this, haha.
Sorry, I have nothing constructive to say. I was never a spergy awkward teen, just a boring quiet one.
Don’t kill yourself! I’m not sure what he meant, but unfortunately it could (but doesn’t need to!) be that they were goofing around and they didn’t expect you to say yes, so the phondnumber was just out of politeness.
If you want to practice basic (written) conversation exercises and text exercises, email me at [email protected]
I’ve already helped a few people here!
You can get another boy if this one was really rejecting you. We will help you. >>12580
I hope you're a woman because I've seen you offer your email to other people here. Can anyone who have been in contact with this anon tell us if they're female?
Try messaging him and say you weren't messing with him incase he took it that way
His response should imply whether he thought you were messing or whether he's just not interested
I never thought I would be the spergy awkward teen, but here I am..>>12580
his friend who did it was an overenthusiastic female who had a boyfriend herself so maybe she was just doing it without considering what he'd really feel/think about it while assuming it was for the best, i don't know
i'll write that email down, thank you>>12581
i dunno honestly, i think it'll be a long time before another boy likes me, thank you though>>12582
AAAAAAAAH but now I'm AFRAID to because what if he ignores that message tooooooo
>tfw go home and fantasize about hugging him and holding his hand and watching movies with him
>go back to school and just shout "hey babe do you still need a girlfriend" in a mocking tone i didn't mean to use
seriously how could i have let this happen..
>>12586>just shout "hey babe do you still need a girlfriend"
That's alpha af, I don't understand why it's not working.
Because he is a loser, bullet dodged
this is the only thing you can do. either he's not into you or he's withdrawn/thinks you're teasing him. just have strong skin in case its the former, there will be other boys.
iunno why its not working either, maybe my playful/sarcastic tone and irony ruined it>>12593
i am really not sure what it is, i talked to him again today and am just more confused than ever still, i genuinely can't tell if he hates me for no reason or if he thinks im messing with him and is just trying to avoid it idk
Just tell him you want to go out with him already. If everyone just did that half the population would probably be happily married by 23. Instead everyone's too lonely and afraid to stop being lonely and afraid. I mean, Jesus flaming Christ all anyone really wants is to be held.
Or we can all just keep staring at people we really fancy and never do anything anyway and occasionally every other night stay up until five AM sobbing into a pillow about the person who probably would have made you happier than you've been before if only you'd said something half a decade ago.
Why are human beings so scared of our social and romantic emotions? Is this some evolutionary hang up from when Grug was just as likely to bash your skull in as share his berries with you?
Whatever, I don't know anything except I'm fucking lonely.
I don't know, either I doubt he'll take me seriously or even if he does I ruined everything with my original approach. You put this really well, I am too lonely and afraid to stop being lonely and afraid. I didn't even just want to be held before, I hated the idea of physical affection or romantic connection but he just lit this stupid spark inside me that gave me the deepest sense of longing for that. I hate it
It sounds like you had an experience vaguely similar to this that you didn't take the chance on with how personal that got. I'm sorry
tfw grug does not share his berries with u>>12596>I didn't even just want to be held before, I hated the idea of physical affection or romantic connection but he just lit this stupid spark inside me that gave me the deepest sense of longing for that.
Something like that happened to me. A friend tried to set me up with someone a couple years ago and it didn't happen (because I was being a scaredy cat) and it actually really fucked me up. I didn't even want to be with this person, me and them not happening wasn't what upset me, it was that the whole thing like.. reset my mind and made me realize how lonely I was and how bad I wanted to be in a relationship with someone I like and how it's probably not going to happen, where as before that I somehow magically didn't care at all for many years. These days it's almost all I think about.
i cant tell if its just a general feeling or if its just him i want to be with but im pretty sure its just him even though i dont even know him well. i'm sorry you had to go through that, how cruel of life to force that onto you
Men don't like playing games and going around in pointless circles.
Just send him a straightforward honest message saying what you want and apologizing if it seemed like you were doing something else.
Your intent will (hopefully) get across and you can finally either get together or not.
He probably thinks you were making fun of him. Dating is like a Kabuki theatre where you have to imply things rather than outright say them. Especially if he's a guy who 'needs a girlfriend' he's probably a little shy and awkward and would percieve it badly. You've also made yourself seem either weird, desperate or easy; all things that will worry someone.
Salavageable if you maybe say you were drunk or if you want to be more risky just come out and say you were feeling awkward about it- maybe he'll respect the honesty
Just suck if the fuck up, be blunt, and be honest. Don't lie and make an excuse for your behavior, apologize for possibly coming off as a bitch, and be fucking sincere when you ask him. Guys can be pretty dense when it comes to stuff like this especially if they're used to being the nerd/loner.
I don't know.
I spoke to him again on Friday and yeah it went terribly but it was a bit better than before. I was walking down the stairs to get back into the school and passed him sitting with his friends
>HEEY, it's my government assigned boyfriend (second time I'd said that to him)>group either makes 'oooh' noises or laughs>I don't want to talk to you>That's mean>I know, right?>So are you just playing hard to get?>Yeah, right, that's totally it..>Come on>Whatever, go away and talk to your friends>I don't have any friends>Oh..
I don't know. I think he might just be a hard to crack person and things will get better if I keep trying. He seemed taken aback when I told him I didn't have friends. He probably just doesn't understand that I'm just a sperg instead of a popular slut/bitch.
I dunno, I think instead of actually just bluntly asking him out after all of that I'm just going to actually just ask him why hes been so mean to me/if I've actually done anything wrong, but I don't think I can do that in front of his friends (don't males hate that?) and dunno when I can manage to catch him alone
You say you don't have friends but you sound alpha as fuck
Let me say that, out of context, it really just sounds like you're fucking with him and he's somewhat defensive because he thinks you keep teasing him
You should probably just talk to him alone and be more straightforward about genuinely being interested in him
I think you should leave him alone, honestly
I don’t understand why you keep teasing him when he’s not being receptive to it. If I were him I’d just think you were making fun of me. I’d be a little intimidated, honestly.
Idk, maybe send him an “are you doing ok?” text since he seems distressed and try to establish that you aren’t fucking around with him and that you actually care. Or just leave him alone.
yeah I think at this point I don't have friends because everybody assumes I have them already>>12694>>12696>>12701
you guys are right, i think this is really just getting stupid of me and i don't think i'll talk to him again unless i can catch him alone to explain to him i didn't mean to act like i was teasing him and i just don't know how to handle things well
It’s okay anon, we all make social fuck-ups. <3
I still don’t think it’s a terrible idea to try to resolve things with him if you really
have feelings for him, who knows what the future could hold.
>>12665>>HEEY, it's my government assigned boyfriend (second time I'd said that to him)
Serious question: are you actually on the spectrum?
Jesus fucking Christ just be sincere and ask him out.
"Hey, I'm sorry if I ever came off like I was messing with you. I really do kinda like you and would like for us to maybe go on a date and get to know each other a little more." Just be fucking honest.
Spoke to him again at lunch break, he was an asshole again but one of his friends told me he's just going through a hard time in life right now. I think he just needs someone to be there for him despite his exterior
if he's such a jerk maybe you shouldn't try to get with him anyway
Considering the OP was acting like a rude sperg, then I don't blame the guy for reacting in a negative manner.>>12766
Really think you should step away and let a close friend (not you) be there for him.
i spoke to him again today, i'm still not able to approach him without getting nervous but i am more comfortable now, sorted things out and he's warming up to me
things rly are aight
Everything you've said in this thread reminds me of myself a few years ago back when I had hope of finding love, but I never did anything about it. I expected from the beginning of this story that it would end badly for you, but I'm surprised at how you handled it in the end. Even if it doesn't work out with this guy, I'm sure you'll be able to find someone.
Yeah its alpha AF but think about it. A lonely guy, needs his female friends to get him a girlfriend. He is just shy. Unfortunately, if you say stuff like, "hey babe" or "are you friend zoning me," it might sound like you are mocking him rather than actually showing interest. >>12594>iunno why its not working either, maybe my playful/sarcastic tone and irony ruined it
I think that's the problem. He doesn't know if you are genuine or not. Obviously you are genuine but he doesn't know that. >>12599>Just send him a straightforward honest message saying what you want and apologizing if it seemed like you were doing something else.
This is overall the best option. Just apologize and say something along the lines of>"Hello ANON, I think we started off on the wrong foot. I'm ANON-chan and I really think that you are cute"
Some guys are just dense or shy, sort of like what >>12653
>Just finished reading>>12665
STOP, your just digging a bigger hole for yourself! At that point, your just flat out teasing him and at worst, putting his friends against him. >>12766>>12768
I really don't think he is an asshole. He literally sounds like a shy kid who is being bullied by a random girl he met a week ago.>>12889
I'm glad things are working out between you and him. Just remember to >BE >HONEST >ABOUT >YOUR >SELF.
I know that most guys usually like to take the lead, its just that it is not this guy. Just remember that out of the 2 of you, YOU are the more confident one. He is a shy kid who never had a gf, take advantage of that.
This is where many people go wrong, you have to build a relationship. I can see that you've gone in too hard and fast as he's pushed you away for it.
What he needs is a friend. It's fairly obvious that he's either a) depressed and feels like the joke flirting texts are actually attacks on him or b) is genuinely not interested in you.
What you can do to help your situation is to pull back and talk to him like a friend, then ask him out for food/coffee/whatever it is normal people do but treat him as a friend. It's obvious he isn't interested in you (for the time being), so don't push it or he will be driven further away from you.
And I recommend keeping contact minimal but supportive. If you're genuinely interested you're going to have to play the long game and see how he responds, find out his likes and dislikes, what his hobbies are (if any) etc. You're going to have to put some effort into this if you even want a friendship, let alone a relationship.
I disagree, it seems like their conversations and his responses up to this point were the result of a comedic misunderstanding. I don't think he genuinely understood what her intentions were, and if the air were clear, he would reciprocate a more romantic relationship than one that starts platonic and build up over several months. They sound pretty young, and at that age, no guy has time for that slow burn Hollywood movie crap
What would you do if someone you're not interested in is constantly barraging you with flirty messages?
What would you do if you think someone is trying to mess you around?
He's either not interested or thinks that he's being messed around with. It's likely the latter but in any case she needs to take a step back and try to be friends before beginning a relationship. You don't try to run before you can walk, you have a friendship that becomes a relationship. It took me 2 years of friendship before I had a relationship out of it and before that it was relatively unfufilling one night stands.
Since neither of them have tried the dating game it's best that she takes this angle rather than the fast, instant gratification way. They are going to need time and take each other out on dates as time goes on. This is going to need work and may take a long while to develop as they don't know where the boundaries are. I'm afraid you have to work a bit for a decent relationship, and take it slowly without losing interest.
This is giving me flashbacks to when I was 15 and thought this boy could be into me, so I started messaging him but he wasn't into me AT ALL and he ignored me. I haven't liked a boy ever since that day
that should be an avril lavigne song
I have started just treating him like a friend and things have started going better, I'm just taking it day by day at this point but we speak at least once a day and sometimes more though. He looks at me more too
Also I stand with his friend group now, I don't have much to add into their conversations sometimes but its nice to just stand near him and be around him.
Aaaand I did clear things up, basically
>walk up to him and just ask him why he hates me so much
>he told me that I verbally assaulted him a joking tone
>"Oh my godd I'm sorry I didn't mean it I like you"
>we laugh together for a bit
>offered him a cig, talk a little bit more
>I also broke my lighter that day and he asked his friend to lend me his lighter which is a nice gesture
>We stood together for a while with his group of friends
>Stood with him again this morning, repeat, and later I stood kind of near him but not with him and he kept looking over at me/we made a bit of eye contact
D A Y
D A Y
I think it really will only evolve and get better from here
Not to get gay but My GOD I'm so glad things are at least VAGUELY CLEARED UP I'm really VERY VERY happy, I couldn't stop smiling in class after speaking to him earlier, I would just get home and feel miserable every day when things were going bad but I really feel like I have something to look forward to now it's just the nicest thing ever to be able to stand by him and look at his face and the way he talks to his friends I am so excited for the future and how things will evolve if they do
This is making me uwu
I'm happy for you both anon
>>13065>offered him a cig>I also broke my lighter that day and he asked his friend to lend me his lighter
glad to see west virginia is getting some representation on here
You’re friendless and a smoker? How and when did you pick it up?
i smoked my aunts cigarettes starting out, shes a heavy smoker who bought cheap untaxed cigs in bulk online. around the start of this school year she noticed and didnt flip out but started keeping them fully out of reach so i just asked a few people smoking in front of the school where to buy them and one person sells me them but we don't speak outside of that
Did he texted you first?
Thanks for keeping us updated, anon. I hope everything will go well for you two!
Spoke to him again on Friday and told him I'd miss him over the weekend. Nice to have something to look forward to again
Please keep us posted on what happens, I want you two to be happy
so for those of whom wanted an update, i'm playing the long game right now (and by that i mean im too scared to make a direct move), i havent truly made a huge amount of progress but i've been getting a bit familiar with his friends when i had ground to so perhaps eventually ill be welcomed into his friend circle instead of just randomly approaching him while hes busy with his friends or just waiting for the right chance to speak to him, as i've been doing
i do sincerely believe that if i hold on and stay patient i'll get the perfect chance to speak to him
and thats it
i have not forgotten this thread!
I have high hopes you may join that friend circle and one day he asks you!
during a brief interaction he did warn me its a close friend group but most of the people in it seem to vaguely like me.
one guy in the group actually shouts out a greeting to me every morning, (just "hi -joke nickname-"), ive wondered a few times if thats an invitation to walk up to them and speak to them but i kind of doubt it
yeah if you want to land in the friend zone and waste your fucking life there>>13709
Sorry to shit on your parade but I would start making a move and making my intentions clear before you end up in the inevitable position of being so close in his life that he's too afraid to pursue you because he'd rather preserve the friendship than risk losing you. And you'll be inclined to do the same fucking thing too.
What's more, while you're playing the long con some hoe could swoop in and take him. So you'll either sit there bitter and betrayed and mad at him (and he won't realize why) or you'll actively try to sabotage his relationship and become a bitch and he'll cut you out of his life.
Men are not complex beings. Be direct and be prepared to take the L if it doesn't work out.
You're right anon, thank you for telling me this. You're a real one. I've been making my intents very clear now
I've been continuing the playful/joking flirting but making sure he knows there's actual intent behind it. He seems to play the quiet asshole role but I don't mind getting around it. After approaching him and telling a joke he pulled the "omg go awayyy" thing again and when I was leaving I straight up just said "I like you!! Really, I like you" and today when I did it again he smiled at me. I'm trying not to get my hopes up really but it does look like things are getting better, even if him smiling might not really mean much.
huh, you know what, i think you're right
i dated an irl tsundere once and it was kind of a bad experience, but your mileage may vary. just be on the look-out for red flags.>withholding affection to 'punish' you>needing constant reaffirmation of your affection>acting out in order to test your devotion
it seemed charming at first and i was just like 'aw, he's broken and needs a good woman to show him how to love' but in the end it turns out i was wasting my time. he still texts me/calls me to try to get an ego boost every once in a while but now i'm completely over it.
the funny thing is that when i'm mean to him, he treats me nicer than he ever did when i was in love with him.
irl tsundere is just weebspeak for bpd
Sounds like he hates you and you ruin his day whenever he sees you tbh
>>13802>when i'm mean to him, he treats me nicer than he ever did when i was in love with him.
maybe he has fetish for angry woman
nah, he's specifically tried the line 'omg i didn't appreciate u when we were together ur really nice and wholesome and i miss having u in my life' to try to rope me back in. luckily i'm old enough not to fall for that bullshit anymore.
im pretty sure that isnt the case anon, he probably wouldnt have started smiling at me after i made it clear i did actually like him and he probably would have never spoke to me first either
that sounds like a horrible person and im very sorry you had to go through that anon, what a shame you just wanted to show him how to love and he wouldnt let you
Today his friend said to me "He loves you" and at the end of the day yelled at me to come over to their group and give him a hug, the first thing really makes me wonder if they ever privately spoke about me and he admitted to liking me or if he's just fucking around with me/teasing me. Either way, because of that I consider today a good day anyway
Keep us updated until you mention crystal.cafe at your wedding
I very much don't plan to stop keeping you guys updated! What a thread this has been
i haven't said anything to him for the past two days after letting self doubt heavily get to me and both yesterday and today he briefly looked over at me at the end of school, not sure if it means anything and i'll try to get the courage to speak to him tomorrow
No updates for almost a week, did you talk to him on the other days of past week?
Yep, I checked my journal and I did speak to him three days ago but very briefly. I'm still trying to figure out what his friend could have meant by telling me that he loves me and trying to get me to come over to give him a hug.
Pondering over everything here and everything that happened is weird. I wish I had more courage to approach him more and stay around longer/be more direct. I think the idea of me giving up scares me more than continuing to approach and talk to him. I think about him so much, overthink everything he does and overthink everything I do, and even overthink whether or not he thinks about me.
I kind of want to try asking one of his friends if he always has a cold/asshole exterior to new people or just bluntly and fully seriously asking him whether or not he actually really doesn't like me and wants me to go away. I really think he's been more playful/not serious when he's acted cold to me and if he genuinely didn't like me I think his friends wouldn't encourage me at all.
It's been almost over a month since I made this post. Weird to think of that too
just look him in the eye and give him a firm handshake and ask him out for a date
works for me every time!
>>14050>tfw do this and still get rejected
It's not foolproof, anon-chan.
y-you're pretending, r-right?
The handshake isn't always possible, but yes.
It might work if you're small and conventionally cute, though. I'm usually taller than the guys I ask and a bit creepy.
Hot guys like tall girls who take initiative. Manlets are easily intimidated and want womanlets to dominate for compensation. How tall are you?
im at an entirely average height (5'3) but hes very tall so i guess i could be small by comparison
but i still wouldnt try this! thatd be very awkward.
also i dont think being tall makes you creepy, guys like tall girls
Are the guys you've asked some randoms from the street? Are you sure they didn't reject you because they have a gf?
I'm only a bit taller than the average gal (5'6") and exclusively go after tiny men. It's a shame because I really do want a manlet bf…>>14078
There are other things that make me creepy. I also have a deep voice (out of my control) and dress a bit oddly (constantly business casual or formal, but it makes me confident so I'm not changing).
I'm also blunt and weird in general. And like you said it probably is awkward.>>14079
One did confirm he has a gf, but he also gave me a look of disgust when I asked him out.
Another was a friend (single) who consistently rejected my advances. Another (also single) had lunch with me and then rejected me after I made my intentions clear.
I'm clean and take care of myself so I can only assume it's the other factors. But I'll keep trying! Dammit!
Anyway, I don't want to hijack OP's thread too much. Despite my failures I agree with >>14050
in that you should directly ask him what the deal is now. In my experience it's better to know the truth and move on to the next target
guy than live in anxious confusion.
The truth is though that I don't think I'll really be able to just move onto the next guy, this is really the first time I've ever had a strong crush on someone irl.
No big updates but today he was the first to make contact twice, and I saw him looking over at me from the corner of my eye.
The first time was just him shouting "Shut up" at me when I was bantering with his friends but it wasn't a harsh or serious one, the second one was just him shouting at me to ask if I had just walked around the whole school, and I guess this doesn't mean very much but it's a bit of a big deal to me since it kind of proves he pays attention to me, and I highly doubt he truly dislikes me if he initiated first like that even if it's nothing big. If I can I'm going to try talking to him after class or school. I hadn't spoke to him yesterday so maybe he missed me.
Or maybe I'm just being an idiot..
After another day of noticing him looking over at me indoors, I think I've finally realized I really should, whenever I can, just finally ask him what the deal is/basically just whether I genuinely annoy him and he wants me to leave him alone or whether he just normally acts like that or doesn't know how else to respond to my behavior. Possibly clarifying that I really do like him.
I might not retain the confidence to do it, but if I do, I think it'll either be a big turning point in this thread or maybe just a final update
Thank You, Anons! I dunno when I'll have a chance to do it but I really do know I need to.
So…how did it go, anon?
been lurking since day 1 and the way op just suddenly stopped updating after posting that kinda worries me, i wonder where they went and what happened
Well guys, after that absence, I'm back.
I just ended up giving up and trying to bury my emotions and accept being alone and try to stop caring but basically
>Stop bothering him, give up
>He talks to me twice just to bum a smoke off of me, act indifferent
>Today when I was walking down some stairs I saw him and his friend group, didn't do anything
>He looks at me and shouts "I love you" At me
>Completely caught off guard
>Just respond with "What..?"
>His friends shout "-his name- loves you" at me
>This all happened very fast and we were both walking at fast paces, just walk into the school and now I don't know what to think or do
I thought it was just going to be over but I got pulled back in. Huh. I have no idea if I'm being messed with or what to think of this but holy shit
Congrats! Make sure you post pics of your wedding here
Please let it be a happy ending.
I hope so anon. I really don't know what to make of this right now!>>14577
We'll see, I'll certainly keep updating you guys
this is so cute. good luck anon
i think ill try to talk to him tomorrow, if not i'll just think on it over the weekend and talk to him on monday
i feel a bit worried that my reaction was off but even if it was i'll be able to fix it anyway if i wasnt just being messed with (i kind of find that unlikely though even if i found it unlikely that he likes me - his friends aren't complete assholes/i doubt any of them would actually want to mess with someone for no reason like that)
no update really but just a ramble:
oh my goooosh i can't stop thinking about this, i had really just given up but I really really really got pulled back in, just thinking back on his face and him looking at me then him telling me he loved me..wtf oh my gosh I still can't fully believe this, i just feel so so overwhelmed in a good way, i really really hope things work out and progress
You should not go for chads. He fucks a different bitch every day, no womder he did not reply.
im not going for chads anon, im particularly interested in him because he's not a chad at all - this all started because his female friend with a bf tried to tell me he needed a gf, he's the only one in his friend group who's never standing with a girl beside them
There's a reason you want to hook up with this guy you don't know and it's not his reputation for charity.
are you a bitter r9k incel who found your way here?
its because i found him charming since he seemed lonely as well due to the circumstances
that's not the impression i've gotten at all… he seems a little insecure and not sure how to express his emotions, that's all>>14606
this is so cute, i really wish things work out!
yep, though hes a chad in my heart i'm definitely not being a normie girl going for chad. to be honest i avoided boys who seemed popular
thank you anon! i hope it works out too. i didn't talk to him today but will do my best to talk to him on monday
>>14718>he's a chad in my heart
That's the most romantic thing I've ever read.
You post on /r9k/, too, so why would it upset you if robots showed up here?
actually it wouldnt upset me at all and i find them relatable, it would just upset me if they were bitter about things. i haven't posted on r9k more than a few times though>>14719
this is what loving someone is like anon…
How did the planned chat with him on Monday go?
I really think he is a tsundere who can't express his emotions correctly. I was standing a few metres away from him and his group of friends not speaking to any of them and he turned around just to say "hey shut the fuck up nobody is talking to you" which obviously was just to get my attention even if it's in a very weird way.
what a weirdo. You also seem like a weirdo so you are perfect for each other no offense
honestly anon, yes, exactly. by nature I'm just a strangely behavioured weird person who also has trouble showing emotions, it really draws me in and kinda made my heart set on this
wont see him over the weekend, but im kinda debating sending him a follow request on instagram. he didnt give me his instagram himself but i follow a few of his friends/easily found it, so i dunno if it would be weird or not to do so. also if he didnt accept it i would be really sad
how old are you? listen a boys ego is super fragile especially in america. just by engaging with those girls you were teasing him along with them. everything you do now is basically bullying him. the only way to get any traction now is to have one of those girls who claim to be friends
with him to talk to him. ask one of them how he feels about dating or even hanging out with you. hes probably as unconfortable with the situation as you are and had it gone down differently eh would have said yes. dont approach him while he is with his friends dont approach him directly. ask one of those girls to approach him and tell them to ask if he would be willing to hang out with you. as you two start to warm up then maybe ask about dating etc.
do not text him do not call him send a messenger instead to protect his ego otherwise he will start to seriously dislike you.
been chugging through the thread sounds like you infiltrated his social circle but your not making any headway.>>15162
yeah no it sounds like he is trying to berate you and legitimately distance himself and his friends from you.>>14635
talk to this girl whoever this girl is and try and have her set something up between you two.>>14606
is this a larp? are there tripcodes on this site? can OP post with tripcodes for any actual