Any high earners with loneliness problem here?
I'm earning relatively high, $150k per year which is about 3 times average where I live.
It's very rare that anyone hits on me, and even if they do they disappear after learning more about me.
Are guys just intimidated?
>mfw I only make 40k a year
Nice bragging thread OP, its working.
Being a cam whore isn't a respectable profession
My partner made more than that a year and was a lonely and friendless KHV before we met. Having money doesn't automatically mean you will have love, friends and fun all the time unless you try to socialize with idiots and gold diggers. I had no idea they made that amount of money when we started dating, just for the record
I would say the stereotype of men being intimidated/insecure when their partner makes more than they do has some truth to it. That being said how do they get your exact wage number? Do they make a guess when you tell them your profession? You can easily just tell them you make $70k
Think of it from the guy's perspective.
>not suited to caring for small children.
>want sex more than your partner does.
>family is no longer threatened by wild animals.
What would you do in that situation? And don't say you wouldn't care, everyone wants to feel like they're contributing something to the relationship. Guys especially.
You're probably ugly, sorry.
>>19506>men aren't suited for caring for small children
That would be the individual's shortcoming. There are nurturing men out there, just as there are non-nurturing women.
And anon said nothing about her sex drive, perhaps she has a high one and that's
what a man can contribute aside from companionship, which is very important! Being nice and supportive shouldn't be hard if he loves her jfc, are men actually
incapable of love?
Anyway op, hit on guys you fool. Go full alpha, be both the provider and the instigator.
>>19508>There are nurturing men out there, just as there are non-nurturing women.
Yes, but they're the minority, that's all.
I never knew stating income level results in bitter replies though telling your income level to someone isn't exactly one of the first things you do (ain't it up there along with discussing kinks and political views in terms of taboo)?
why would they know your income? are you telling them, or does your job title imply a really high salary? use some of that sweet moolah to get into cool hobbies/activities and meet cool people that you have shit in common with.
what do you do for a living?
I mean, what do you expect. People will get jealous and interpret it as humblebragging. If OP wants sympathy she should talk to other richfag women wherever they hang out.
Just try to use monies on another people, fam, like make gifts, buy coffe/tea, etc
Saving/spending on yourself monies won't make anyone besides you happier.
And most of it, how does your expected bf knows how much do you earn? You ain't just post this shit in tinder profile info, didn't you?
We're all from diffrent countries.
I make for example only ~ $ 41850,65 annually, but it's considered very rich in my second/third world country.
I mean that rich, so with saved monies i bought land and builded myself a brick 350 m^2 house.
It’s not hard to guess my income, I work on a technical management position in a very well known company.
Even without much knowledge of the industry people can guess it’s more that 100k.
I don’t want to lie about what I do, potential boyfriend would discover it eventually anyways.
I'm wondering where you would be expected to be hit on? If it is co-workers I'd think they would make similar wages. If it's other social circles then yes I can see them thinking you're out of their league with regards to earnings.
I can't think of a non-awkward way to do this but if you could somehow signal "I don't care how much you make" it's possible that could help. But only if they believe that. I think they won't. Is that how you feel? Would you be ok with someone who only made a third of what you do, or less?
>>19497>It's very rare that anyone hits on me
Sounds like a looks problem. >and even if they do they disappear after learning more about me.
Sounds like a personality problem.
Why do you even assume it must be because of how much money you make?
Don’t tell anyone your real earnings, ezclap.
Nobody has to know, it’s your business. I was brought up to think that if people ask how much I earn it’s rude. Just keep it quiet until you’re official or something, and you know the person very well. Money info shouldn’t be given so easily to people. It’ll also stop you from dealing with mooches.
I make twice as much as my partner. Find someone who isn't insecure. Easier said than done though
>They want a women that performs the role of a women.
That made me throw up.
>>19657>>They want a women that performs the role of a women.>That made me throw up.
Well, the good heterosexual ones do.
Just like how you don't actually want any of the insecure, half-gay, aimless manchildren and incels looking for a pseudo-mommy. It's the same thing. A lot of women want men that perform the role of a man and finally fucking stop with their video-games-and-graphic-tees-at-age-twenty-seven meme. It's fun to larp on the internet that you enjoy the current generation saturated with whiny nu-males, but the reality away from the keyboard is a living hell. Look to Japan for some great examples. Suicide rates among women are just going up living among their asocial bugmen buying used panties out of vending machines.
I would rather be a housewife to a kind, capable guy with no bizarre fetishes from too much internet and his shit together and a nice home than some wonderwoman who works 60 hours a week at a .03% elite job while babysitting a nodding, thirty year old leech without a spine. A lot of weirdo men like that end up being the culprit of the murder-suicide that takes you out anyways.
The two other options for happiness are:
a) Marry a closet gay who has "yass queen" on repeat, hope he never brings home some surprise aids from the girl (male) he met online.
b) Become a lesbian. While the abuse rates are through the roof, at least you'll never have to cook being on eternal chinese takeout.
My big brother said something like this years ago. He went to a singles event and came back amused and sad. He said,
‘They had us all introduce ourselves and ask about future plans, questions in a script. Every single woman’s self-description was education, job, income, recent travel. Likewise every future plan was more education, promotion, more money, more expensive travel. After that when I asked ‘do you want to marry?’ or ‘do you want children?’ They were puzzled or offended.’
He married a super-religious girl about a year later.
(She’s a stitch and a great SiL).
I think about it a lot
He's a journeyman.
Looks like I spoke too soon though. Yesterday he borrowed 2500$ and when I said that would be tough be said I would be fine because of my family. Ughhhhh
Imageboards really bring out the crazies among us.
Are you seriously equating a female high-earner with a NEET manchild? I'm going to pretend to believe that you are a woman but your options are all wrong.
OP, no, they are not intimidated. They are not approaching you because of something else, your "high-earner" status probably has little to do with it. One common problem with ambitious women is having little social life outside of work, in other words, being boring as hell. It might be something else, but this is usually it.
Also high-earners tend to match with other high-earners, this is a fact. So completely ignore that other anon.
>They want a women that performs the role of a women.
You've got it backwards, they want to be men that perform the role of a man. It's why you can be as tomboyish as you like as long as he gets to pay for dates and fix his car.
>>19685>All men are the same, act the same and have the same exact same preferences for women
You know what I mean. It's a generalisation in response to a generalisation. It's the same with women. My boyfriend isn't some hypermasculine macho man but he makes me feel like a woman, and that's what counts.
How else does that happen except when man and woman work together to perform their respective roles, a combination of opposites similar to the ying and yang, to fulfill each other’s wants and needs?
When one party doesn't "play their role" but doesn't get in the way of the other feeling like they're playing theirs. There are negative and positive examples here. If you're not interested in being a housewife it can still work as long as you don't prevent your partner from feeling like "a real man" and no amount of waifuing will keep a guy who doesn't feel man enough from feeling inadequate.
Yes, even guys that don't want to take the lead in the relationship need to feel manly.this is why gfd relationships don't work.
Tall anons, back me up here. It's more important to feeling feminine is more important than your bf being tall, and the two aren't always the same thing.
What does it even mean to "feel like a man" though? At least tradanon is clear lol. If I like short men, am not submissive, and am going into a well paid field am I fucked (or not fucked as it were)?
I'm quite strong (for a woman) and am turned off by even average strength guys, so do I have to lie to a weak skelly bf in praising his strength or something? Will I have to want to kms every time we have sex because I need to get tied up and spanked for him to not leave me?
All I expect for being "treated like a woman" is being acknowledged as having a feminine body tbqh…even in femdom the woman is acknowledged as a woman and the man a man. Mistress, not master. And in gfd things like nurturing the guy and him resting on the tiddies is a big thing lel. Those are very gendered.
Also add on I'd appreciate a man for his male body as well yadda yadda. Even have a weird fetish for male body hair, and specifically skinny male bodies since skinny women don't have the same aesthetic.
Let me see what I can do for you.>All I expect for being "treated like a woman" is being acknowledged as having a feminine body tbqh>turned off by even average strength guys, so do I have to lie to a weak skelly bf in praising his strength or something?>only like short guys
You kinda see the inconsistency here, right?
Well, if you were dating a guy way stronger than you, what would you want? My bf was ill for a while and got pretty skinny and it was important was not to make him feel weak but also not to lie. Little stuff like not carrying things for him. But he wasn't really happy until he got back in shape, same way you wouldn't like being obese even if your partner didn't care.>Will I have to want to kms every time we have sex because I need to get tied up and spanked for him to not leave me?
That's not nearly as common as you think, and a lot of the guys that do it only do it because they think it's what women want. Sexually passive/submissive guys aren't rare either. They might not be your level of kinky, but they're not hard to find.
The problem arises when you get crazy with the relationship. In most couples, both partners work, go out, initiate sex, and make decisions. A relationship where only the man does all of that is actually weird as hell, and a relationship where only the woman does is even weirder.
Discussion about "what it means to be a man" is pretty easy to find, certainly more so than what it means to be a woman. Honestly, if you find keeping guys around in is a problem, look at a little bit of that stuff as long as it's not redpill bs. It's not always right, but it helps to build a bit of an intuition for how they feel about some things.
So in conclusion,>If I like short men, am not submissive, and am going into a well paid field am I fucked (or not fucked as it were)?
You're probably going to have hard time, depending on your expectations. If super kinky sex and paying for things are musts for you, I suggest you invest in a good vibrator. But if you're willing to compromise on those, you'll find a partner eventually.
Short guys usually have a hard time with their masculinity though. Just something you'll have to deal with.
I don't think so, by feminine I don't mean "petite uwu and weak" I am very much not that haha. I meant hips + tiddies (although appreciation for "masc" features like my strength would be nice too), and I present pretty feminine.>if you were dating a guy way stronger than you
I like short skellies (as in <5'5" 120 lbs and less skelly) so I'm not sure why I'd be in this position. It's also not a matter of "not caring," it literally is my taste. Ideally I'd find someone who is comfy enough with his size (or has no interest in lifting) who I can reassure even if he gets a bit insecure with societal expectations. But I'd obviously let him carry his own things and open his own jars or whatever, unless I can do it more easily in which case it would be illogical not to intervene. And don't men also value being logical?
Obesity is also different from being just not-buff since it puts you at risk for major health issues. And as someone who is a little chunk (but not obese) I would
be happy if a guy was as specifically into my body as I am into petit men.>getting crazy with the relationship
In the past I've fetishized reverse-trad but at this point I've come to terms with the fact that there's going to be some sort of equal exchange with gifts, sex, money, etc. I Won't settle in the bedroom though, at least vanilla-passive (cowgirl, facesitting, basically a pillow prince) is fine but anything more dominant than that and I'm out. Wouldn't expect a dom to change himself either, we'd just break it off nbd.
I will look more into what men think like you mentioned, maybe ask my male friends what they think it means.
Overall it just sounds like men generally care more about judgement than I do? Is that just how masculinty is? Or maybe some women do as well, like ones who won't date shorties because it's "weird." But even socially outcast men like incels and bots are obsessed with image and acceptance I don't know.
Thanks for replying and clarifying, regardless. This reply may come off as pissy but I'm not lol.
This is gonna be out of order again, sorry.>And don't men also value being logical?
Not when their ego is involved.>But I'd obviously let him carry his own things and open his own jars or whatever, unless I can do it more easily in which case it would be illogical not to intervene.
That's exactly what I was saying not to do. As a general rule, don't do anything for him that he can do himself, even if it'd be easier for you to do it.>I would be happy if a guy was as specifically into my body as I am into petit men.
I said obese because it's a bodytype that's generally thought of as disgusting. So to make my point clearer, imagine you woke up tomorrow with a man's body, minus the dick, and not an attractive man. Would your partner saying they don't care or even that they prefer that bodytype make it better, or would you still want to have a body you're happy with? Now imagine you could have a body you're happy with, just by going to the gym. Would you seriously refrain just because of your partner's preference?>I meant hips + tiddies (although appreciation for "masc" features like my strength would be nice too), and I present pretty feminine.
As far as guys are concerned, the only masculine features are height, jawline, and muscles. Everything else is just invisible to them. Why do you think so many guys shave their pubes? It doesn't even occur to them that that might be hot.
>Overall it just sounds like men generally care more about judgement than I do? Is that just how masculinty is?
I don't really know why, but guys seem to pretty much psychologically not have the option to be feminine. Like I'm fine wearing a dress shirt or a dress, but guys can only wear the shirt. I don't think it's so much about judgement as self image. It just so happens that they have a pretty universal view of how they should be.
Okay, alright. Unless he's one of those rare guys with a strongk gal fetish I'll leave it be.>imagine you woke up tomorrow with a man's body, minus the dick, and not an attractive man
So…like a chubby ftm? I'll be honest, if my partner genuinely was into it then I'd come to terms with it pretty quick. Unless you mean I'd become
the tiny man I desire (minus dick) in which case…idk that's getting into autoandrophilia territory, would I even need a bf at that point? I could be my own goddamn bf
I guess I do get your point though. But if it's so simple why aren't all (financially capable) men busting it at the gym getting huge? I see many skellies around, so something must be up there. Even if they're just lazy lol, perhaps laziness backed up by "your ribs make me want to fuck you 24/7" might discourage a guy from gyming.
This applies to your point about height, muscles, and jawline. What's up with 25-and-up weak manlets existing? Also what about some East Asian countries where thinner men are more desirable? I've noticed male k-pop stars get anorexic and shit (although don't follow that so I may be incorrect?).
Anyway, after this conversation mostly what I'm coming away with is that I'm a fucking weirdo dissociated from reality except for wanting a tiny bf. Not what I came for but certainly enlightening.
I'll take most of your advice about respecting "fragile" masculinity unless the individual proves otherwise though.
>>19750>But if it's so simple why aren't all (financially capable) men busting it at the gym getting huge?
Same reason there's an obesity epidemic. Exercise takes time and discipline, as any /fit/ poster will tell you at length.>perhaps laziness backed up by "your ribs make me want to fuck you 24/7" might discourage a guy from gyming.
It might, but it also might just remind him that he's small and skinny.>What's up with 25-and-up weak manlets existing?
Nutrition and genetics I presume.>I'm a fucking weirdo dissociated from reality except for wanting a tiny bf.
You're not, you just want a type of man that (almost) no men want to be. Your grip on reality is fine.
Well I will say. Anyone with money ITT can just give it to me and I can make you not lonely thanks
>>19680>Are you seriously equating a female high-earner with a NEET manchild?
You have a double digit IQ if your reading comprehension is that low.
No way to give you money because if someone aks for contact into someone else may just claim to be you and steal your rightful donation
I never had a problem with this. There are enough guys who are understanding, will be proud of you for your achievements and value your ambition. I don't know where you are from but where I live most guys under 50 don't even want a housewife.
Do you go out from time to time? Do you have a bunch of friends? Can you hold a conversation about at least 10 different topics that aren't related to work or imageboards?
What does a guy "get" out of dating you and what are your qualities besides earing a lot of money?
>>19793>Just like how you don't actually want any of the insecure, half-gay, aimless manchildren and incels looking for a pseudo-mommy. It's the same thing.
Only low IQ brainlets use that pitiful attempt of an insult, btw.
>>19856>>you have no reading comprehension and misunderstood the post>no I don't, here's the post I still can't comprehend tho
You have brain damage. Just go back to your faggy clicking retards at tumblr, Becky.
I'm sorry about the porn ban but maybe it'll be good for you, just don't migrate here.
thank you for the hearty kek. much luck living the "real wamen" life by being poor and useless.
>>19661>Become a lesbian. While the abuse rates are through the roof
For most of them there will always be that thought "I'm a lot poorer/ less educated than she, she will dump me for someone on her level" stuck on the back of their mind.
Just don't tell him straight how much you earn and don't brag about your job, it's intimidating.>>19500
Lying and playing it down are different things ;^)>>19520
Wow this thread got really hostile awfully quick.
Yeah but she's right though. You literally misunderstood like three posts in a row. She's not equating lonely high-income women with neet manchildren. She said she'd rather be
a no-income housewife to a guy who's secure in being a man, rather than be a rich mommy to a one of those creepily positive guys that larp as feminists and then always get found out as rapists or child molesters.
Numales wont make you happy, and in fact are probably contributing to the rising female suicide rate, despite way more females making bank today.
>hearty kek>those moms who genuinely enjoy being home raising children are poor and useless
You do seem like a tumblr migrant.
Yeah I was curious about this too so I tried some searching.
It seems despite being in the minority, gays and lesbians have much higher rates of abuse than heterosexuals per capita.
Gays seem to outright rape and murder more, and lesbians seem to just bash each other or be violently cruel more than hetero couples.
Bisexual women have it worst.https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/Intimate-Partner-Violence-and-Sexual-Abuse-among-LGBT-People.pdfhttps://avp.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/ncavp_2012_ipvreport.final_.pdfhttps://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs_sofindings.pdfhttps://mainweb-v.musc.edu/vawprevention/lesbianrx/factsheet.shtml
I don't mean to be a bitch, but I don't know why so many people do this stupid "source?" "citation needed" thing when you can just google what someone is saying. I found all this pretty quickly because I thought she was talking shit at first but it turns out while she exaggerated, it's true and pretty bad.
Lesbians straight up physically and psychologically harm their partners more than men in heterosexual partnerships do.
Real life isn't yuri, I guess.
Wait, there are people who didnt or dont know about gay people cheating/abusing one another way more than average couples? I thought that was common knowledge overall.
I read on reddit the last time I saw this brought up on 4chan that for lesbians and bisexual women the intimate partner that in the past had beaten the woman 1/3 of the time were men. That puts the lesbian on lesbian abuse at a lower rate than heterosexual women. https://www.reddit.com/r/FeMRADebates/comments/59fo1g/its_a_myth_that_lesbians_are_the_most_likely_to/
If they're going to split it like that, they have to do it to all of the numbers.
People ask for sources because the onus is on the poster to prove what they are saying. Being unable or unwilling to provide a source is a big red flag that the person is talking shit.
Why though? I'm not saying or expecting homosexual love to be pure, but I guess with all the bullshit of "love is love" shit and how they are all above love and rise above hate that they wouldn't be as prone to hate themselves. They always try to show a nice sense of community, love, acceptance and kindness.
I think sexuality is like one of the most primal things in our brains after puberty, even if you think you're nearly an asexual. It's the sole thing keeping away extinction until we get the whole cloning thing down. Probably if you 'play' with sexuality too much it can make your brain fucky. Like how people who are fucky with food are either obese or anorexic.
I mean I don't think they "fuck" with it. I mean homosexuality is something that isn't like, you start out straight and just fuck around with people of the same sex and start to like it and you just turn into some kind of fucked up person.
I feel like there's an actual genuine actual reason for homosexuals having a higher metric for domestic abuse than heterosexuals outside of the generic meme "Oh well they are people of sin, thus they are evil and often terrible people so it makes sense."
The sex drive in mammals is for reproduction. Humans romanticize and symbolize it as much as they want, but its only reason for existence is to create more humans.
That's what I meant by messing around with it, not the religious aspect. Even with heteros, male or female, with high numbers of sexual partners and no offspring. Something must after a while in the back of the brain, on a primal level, start going "something must be wrong, all this sex and not a single child" and that starts manifesting as personality disorders/passive-aggressiveness/short tempers.
Hm, I don't know if I can get behind this kind of logic. I'm not sure there is a heavy correlation between mental illnesses developing with the amount of time you have yet to bear a child. That would imply an anger or deep rooted resentment in the partner for being unable to bear their children, but they already know it's impossible to do as such, and I'm pretty sure when you're attracted to the same sex, I would hope the mind would understand this as well.
Perhaps due to higher levels of being disowned by their families they have less of support system in place. I'm sure on some level they are also aware of the contempt a still sizable amount of people have for their very existence.
It most likely all gets internalized.
Also lol at other anon implying that having babies prevents anger issues or mental health issues, or cures them or something. Definitely NO infanticide or child abuse. Absolutely unheard of. As soon as a narc gives birth they are cured. My father definitely did not have BPD.
I'll accept the stats, but please give a valid source on that correlation.
>>20567>I'm pretty sure when you're attracted to the same sex, I would hope the mind would understand this as well.
lol something about this makes me think of the "traps aren't gay" guys.>>20568>give a valid source on that correlation
No that's okay. I was just speculating for myself.
>implying that having babies prevents anger issues or mental health issues, or cures them or something. Definitely NO infanticide or child abuse. Absolutely unheard of. As soon as a narc gives birth they are cured. My father definitely did not have BPD.
I don't know what happened to your brain here.
>Perhaps due to higher levels of being disowned by their families they have less of support system in place. I'm sure on some level they are also aware of the contempt a still sizable amount of people have for their very existence.>It most likely all gets internalized.
Please give a valid source on these correlations.
It's not the 1950s anymore, grandma.
In my first-world non-shithole country, the entire LGBT spectrum is completely accepted and positive. Cities are full of same-sex exclusive clubs and bars. Universities have LGBT exclusive counseling. People overwhelmingly voted for same-sex marriage and transgenders can apply for government assisted payments for their reassignment surgeries. We also have LGBT safety shelters in every city for those simply needing a place to stay if fearing violence or stalking, some are even only for one particular sexuality, with no umbrella system.
Abuse rates are still significantly higher than hetero couples.
Perhaps it's an internal problem? Who knows.
Unless you're just speculating, like me.
Well that was disingenuous. How many hetero females were in abusive lesbian relationships before deciding to settle down with a man? I guarantee it's much much less than 1/3. But because I don't have millions of dollars to conduct that study you're going to throw logic to the wind and come back with: "Sauce? lmao."
I believe this more radfem take tbqh, this stat only accounts for victims and not perpetrators.
plenty of gays start out in hetero relationships before fully accepting their gay dom, and its no secret that men commit more crimes on average. its possible that the abuse becomes another reason for some to go full lez. in some FtM's this tends to be the case for why they transition too.
literally the female version of prison-gay incels
she gave you solid proof from various credible sources non-hetero relations have higher abuse rates than hetero ones
you forward they all got it wrong and that lesbian relationships are actually little havens for once-straight women escaping brutal men
"hey could you give solid proof that isn't a fucking radfem subreddit?"
"no i-it's just logic"
based and beckypilled
>>20571>this stat only accounts for victims and not perpetrators
Victims in lesbian relationships, from their lesbian partner.
It's partnership abuse, as it states clearly in the pdfs.
A phenomenon of women stating their previous male lovers came back to attack them when they entered their lesbian relationship that ended up registering an entire third
of the data collected would not be just ignored by every uni and clinic listed.
>I believe a radfem reddit take over multiple professional clinics and universities>tbqh
Goddammit lol. You own healing crystals, don't you.
I would not be surprised by a dick pic by you right about now.
You should read the sources, science man. Here's some more cognitive dissonance for you: page 27 https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs_sofindings.pdf
67.4 percent was by a female perpetrator. That leaves a remaining almost 1/3. That's a source and you do love your sources. How could you have overlooked evidence to the contrary of your confirmation bias? Because you're arguing in bad faith and just to get one over on the damn wimmins. Last reply troll. Go back to /r9k/ so you you can feel at home being a virgin waste of genetic potential.
So fun things you left out, The topic at hand…>Rape, Physical Violence, and/or Stalking Victimization by an Intimate Partner by Sexual Orientation >Statistical testing to compare sex of perpetrator across all sexual orientations was not conducted. >More than two-thirds of lesbian women (67.4%) identified ONLY female perpetrators
So with this in mind, that means 1/3rd of the instances, had a male involved for one reason or another. That does not mean it was a man alone committing these crimes because that would imply a lesbian could have an intimate relationship with a man as a lesbian. So they took 1/3rd of the results which for one reason or another a man was involved and thus not true lesbian domestic violence as perhaps the aggressor is bisexual and a man was involved on their end and they become part of the aggressor party.
Lets focused on page 21>More than one-third of lesbian women (36.3%), over half of bisexual women (55.1%), and more than one-quarter of heterosexual women (29.8%) in the United
States have been slapped, pushed, or shoved by an intimate partner at some point in their lifetime.
In order to be lesbian, you have to find women attractive and want them to be an intimate partner and solely females. So any males recorded in this metric for lesbians can't happen! It was stated as an act of violence from their intimate partner so men cannot be in this metric. And this only measures physical voilence, what you're pulling from to negate this statics also involved rape, and stalking as well.
Also to really stick it to you, lets go to page 18. This metric measures in the same volume as the area, physical violence, rape, and stalking!
>Four in 10 lesbian women (43.8%), 6 in 10 bisexual women (61.1%), and 1 in 3 heterosexual women (35.0%) reported experiencing rape, physical violence, and/or stalking within the context of an intimate partner relationship at least once
So yeah lesbian relationships are more violent, sorry to break it to you but the facts are there, you're trying to stack facts against irrelevant facts as if to somehow make lesbians relationships seem less violent but they aren't. Truth hurts, deal with it.
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>>20541>Straight men don't want to date a man, or a women that mimics the role of a man. They want a women that performs the role of a women.
it is clear from the first post that "she" considers being a high-earner a failure on the part of the woman to perform the role of a woman, and that the only men who would want that are those who fail at playing the part of a male (neet manchildren).>She said she'd rather be a no-income housewife to a guy who's secure in being a man(…)
Having a relationship with a high-earner does not make you a numale feminist. That is a false dichotomy and it would not be brought up by anyone remotely interested in discussing the topic.
>>20590>"she" considers being a high-earner a failure on the part of the woman to perform the role of a woman
I didn't read it like that at all. She said the guy might be intimidated if he's one of those insecure types, not the woman is wrong for earning lots of money.
That is not what was said in the first post at all. >>19612>They may be disinterested because there's high chance that you would value your job over household maintenance(…)
followed by>Straight men don't want to date a man, or a women that mimics the role of a man
there's a clear assumption that men who'd want to date that sort of women aren't proper men and that that sort of woman fails to be a woman.
That’s par for the course for tradcon values
You're injecting your own bias into your interpretation. The whole post is talking about male perception, not just the first paragraph.
The post says absolutely nothing about what makes a "proper" man or woman. It only says that having masculine attributes as a woman can be seen as risky or red flags by men.
I have a few theories, but mostly it comes down most people think something is wrong with you if you can't get a trophy husband with a high income job as a female. There are male dating dynamics that value income as a high valued trait for getting a wife/gf while having significant flaws that would otherwise leave you alone otherwise.
I do want to throw in here, if you want to know how to deal with this it's easy. Don't speak about your income, just don't. They don't need to know how much you make, when asked just say "I make enough to get by." if someone loves you it shouldn't matter how much you make anyways. And it won't fucking matter later in the relationship because if you got that far where you're merging your financial life, that's a perk where you guys can live a comfortable life versus one of toil and debt and they should be able to love you for you.
there is no dichotomy in career choices. women who have a thriving career are not faking it or stepping into male territory.
Eh, my sister and brother in law are older and much more conservative. Years ago when they started having kids her career was taking off and his was more stagnant. So she worked and he was the stay at home dad. It's worked out great and he's a fantastic dad. They are perfectly comfortable with it and no one in the family has ever looked down on them in the least. But they both have a little voice in the back of their heads that they somehow did it wrong in some little way. For a decent size section of more traditional society those roles are still hard to shed, even if it doesn't make sense.
I think people dating can feel those too, if only subconsciously or instinctively. And even though they fade more and more as time moves on.
You are not wanted here. Toodles.
kek, a likely story
why your sisters career take and your brother in law not?
Have you considered going to events/places where other rich people are? A general rule of thumb for dating is that the easiest away to avoid financial drama is to date within your class.
She was in IT/programming and he was testing soil and water samples for a state agency. They had equal levels of education but there was money and advancement in one and not so much in the other.
It's very rare that anyone hits on me
would you describe yourself as an atractive person?