Does anybody else hate their nationality? Anonymous 26777
I've always despised it, I hate everything about it: food, language (everybody hates it), customs, the people and even the traditional clothes (look way too slutty).
But the thing I hate them most is the way we look.
Yesterday I came across this by accident and frankly, it hurts me a lot. This is really how the vast majority of german men think.
People unironically use "you are so german!" as an insult when fighting. They are obsessed with foreign women, I can guarantee you, if you were to come here as a foreigner, they'd flock to you like there's no tomorrow. They're very vocal about prefering them too ("women from X are so much better").
And it seems as if nearly everybody shares that opinion - meanwhile the men are seen as very attractive by foreigners: tall, strong jaw line, etc. As an example, everybody was gushing about our soccer team - which of course only adds to their big ego.
The sad thing is, I completely fit the characteristics this guy described: I'm too tall, have a big nose, I'm shy, so I don't dress up, nor can I dance and I'm a very serious, no-fun person. Can't say anything about my dating life, because I never had a bf to begin with.
I actually do find some of the girls around me pretty, but if even they're considered ugly by international standards, then just how low am I?
I'm grateful for living in a safe 1st world country, but other than that, there's nothing nice about it. I'm so jealous of other people's cultures and appearances.
Is there a way to look more exotic, interesting, better?
Here's the link (no idea who asked that, but all replies are negative): https://www.quora.com/Why-are-so-many-German-girls-so-pretty
Judging from this Quora answer, German women sound cool as fuck. They don't exist to be seen as attractive by others.
Why do you want to appear more "exotic", "interesting", "better"? For male validation? If so, please reconsider your priorities in life.
>>26777>but if even they're considered ugly by international standards
theyre not. german women are considered attractive by non germans. sounds like german men are just self hating. probably something to do with white guilt over da joos
The goal of most people is to find a partner in their life. If you're too ugly for any men it's hard to achieve that + always getting called ugly is seriously damaging to your self esteem. There's nothing cool about feeling like shit and having to act tough and unbothered about it.
And it's not just about love either, in friendship most people prefer cute and friendly women too.>>26781
I've heard plenty of foreigners - male and female! - say the exact same thing as german men.
Just read the other replies (or the links to similar questions below), they're all the same: German guys = good and handsome, german women = bad and manly.
And they're definitely not self-hating, they quite like themselves lol
well Im an actual non-german and I can tell you people in england and other European countries find german woman very attractive. chekm8
The stereotype that German women are manly and blunt exists all over Europe. I wouldn't care much about it but it's true that many people think like OP says.
>stupid german women not having alot of partners and not buying new fashion clothing every day
Have you heard of that dating site BeautifulPeople.com? If you think you're beautiful, you can apply and then people will either vote you in or out. They released statistics on which countries fared the worst and the best and only 13% of german women were admitted, that's nearly the lowest rate world wide. That's pretty telling to me.
I know that it's just a stupid dating site, but probably the closest we will ever get to an international attractiveness study.
If somebody would continuously call all women (including you) in your country ugly, manish, rude…, then you wouldn't think of this as such a non-issue.
this is such a depressing post, makes me want to jump out the window. >I'm so jealous of other people's cultures
your culture is objectively the best in Europe, what the hell are you even talking about?
All of that is so shallow and it's not even true, the majority of German guys are together with German girls. Most of the things in that post are about attitude anyway, you are free to put on retarded high heels, blow your money in fashion and makeup and act like a cat in heat towards guys if you feel like it. Nothing is stopping you, so if you're not behaving like that it must be because you don't find it worth the effort for your own reasons.
I'm German and I'm much more bothered by the "hurr durr how are you liking your refugee crisis XD" bullshit every time I mention where I'm from. Who cares. Germans are blunt, yeah, but I prefer that to, let's say, Brits who can't open their mouth and say when something's wrong.
lol have you ever been to britain? we have no problem saying when something is wrong
Lived there for a few years, actually.
I found that in comparison to Germans
, British people have a very passive-aggressive or vague way of complaining. Germans are way more direct. That's where the "Germans are angry/rude" stereotype comes from.
british people are just more indifferent. if you actually try to argue with someone tho they will be very aggressive. especially working class people
I'm sure that's true, I'm just saying they're less blunt than Germans
>>26789>your culture is objectively the best in Europe
No?! how can you say that?
And no amount of good fashion, makeup and co. helps if your a butterfaced giant.
get really skinny
If you’re ugly you may become one of those “ugh how did she become a model????” models but who cares about what horny little boys think, let them fap to plastic stacies while you get rich and get to travel to cool places.
I'm too old for that, anon. Most models are russian and around 16.
As long as you try to be a friendly, positive person and put effort into how you look you will be fine.
Most of your problems sound like they could be fixed by working on your skills, mindset and taking care of your looks. But you just like to pity yourself and blame your shortcomings on your nationality instead of doing something. THAT is why people don't want to be your friend.
I bet you are pretty, it's just your low self esteem that makles you think you aren't good enough.
Even if we aren't that beautiful but why does it matter so much? Just focus on the things you can improve and your other qualities. Don't be one of those bitter germans that spend their whole time complaining about everything.
There is no reason to despair over something like this.
Even if you are tall, many do consider this attractive.
Some men do find larger noses beautiful as well.
The most important part of yourself is your inner being anyway, and I'm telling you that there are guys who think so as well.
Most of the drawbacks you imagine there to be are just in your head.
I bet you are actually quite pretty.
So, my final advice is: Just take it easy.
This. Come to America and you see 90% of the women literally exist to be attractive and sexual to men. They blow their money on expensive make up, Brazilian waxes, terrible fashion, all to look like a bimbo caricature. German women sound badass tbh. The only reason a lot of shitty guys might not find that attractive is because they're intimidated. "This women isn't acting like a blow-up doll for my pleasure? No!!!!"
Men don’t actually care about noses: this is a fake problem invented by magazines to sell rhinoplasties. If you want proof go to a male-centric imageboard and observe men lusting over Italian women athletes with Roman noses.
jokes you on, I live in southern germany
>>26811>This. Come to America and you see 90% of the women literally exist to be attractive and sexual to men.
Meanwhile 80% of Americans are overweight or even obese. Kind of a contradiction to your statement.
I don't think this can be accurate… isn't the German milkmaid with a big chest supposed to be like a classic male fantasy? It was even a one off joke in Scrubs.
Anyway if everyone in your culture is hated for your attitude doesn't that mean it would be really really easy to stand out just by being kind? Nobody can tell if you're German just from a glance and by the time they hear you, they can know you're warm and inviting, not rude.
Google 'tall poppy syndrome'.
It exists in Germany. Although like in most countries, it will mostly just be in your own head.
Men find pigs attractive so we can establish they aren't a hivemind
Let's put it this way, a large portion of men pay very close attention to women's noses, all the way from removing women of their femininity because of their nose to completely spazzing out about women's noses
I'm tired of handmaidens trying to promote the whole "oh men don't care about xyz only you women do" when seriously just communicating with other women can tell you it's far from the truthhttps://www.quora.com/My-boyfriend-wants-me-to-get-a-nose-job-What-should-I-dohttps://www.quora.com/My-boyfriend-wants-me-to-get-surgery-if-I-want-to-stay-with-him-Do-I-need-a-new-nosehttps://www.popsugar.com/love/Boyfriend-Wants-Me-Get-Nose-Job-20528520https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=543594&page=1
Seriously, start researching shit before you invalidate women's experiences, Google is free
Have you thought about looking for foreign bf?
Like, from a place where you be considered exotic and classy?
tfw no paki bf to seduce
NYART but those men are sociopaths, narcissists or have another mental illness, this is not the norm and men like that don't deserve attention. But that's just an excuse to shit on women with "pig" noses.
If op cares what German men and fellow Europeans like she's probably one of our resident /pol/fag anti-racemixing anons. Or is only attracted to white guys I guess.
But I absolutely agree, I've seen a wide range of white women with South Asian guys. They aren't all
manlets either assuming op prefers even taller men like most women. But if she is into short guys then she's in luck because many do happen to be tiny heh.
>>26832>If op cares what German men and fellow Europeans like she's probably one of our resident /pol/fag anti-racemixing anons.
Wew, that's a hard reach.
I care about what everyone
says, not just german/euro men. >>26829
I'm not the blonde, blue-eyed type who might be liked by foreigners, I'm pale and brunette.>>26825
Thanks anon. I know for sure that my features are considered unattractive, saying "that's not true!" is not much of a help.
And I know that my personality might be shitty, but changing that is close to impossible. Plus being nice has never stopped an ugly person from being disliked.
>>26838>I'm pale and brunette
Literally a subcategory for male "types".
I've been living in Germany for about two years now and it still shocks me how much Germans hate themselves and their country
I think Germans had to distance themselves from themselves in a way to cope with the war but they went overboard with it
It seems to me that Germans hate themselves in general. This can be seen in all aspects of their life : how they treat themselves (work work work), how they treat and consider their fellow countrywomen, their politics, and the list goes on.
This is probably why you get the "you are so german" and "foreign women are much better" comments. Not because it's some sort of defect to be a german woman, but because germans hate themselves (and their fellows) in general.
That's such a weird take. We Germans don't hate ourselves, we're especially proud of our cultural heritage, art, and community. We're just not proud of WW2.
I (not OP) personally don't hate it for historical reasons. I think that's a rather silly way of thinking. Should Russians feel guilty over Stalin? Brits over Churchill? Not really. I mainly hate, or rather, strongly dislike, the excessive directness and stubborn inflexibility present in German society. Technologically it could also be doing quite a bit better. Essentially, everything has to go according to procedure. There simply is no wiggle room. Socially, the three-tier education system is also rather silly and outdated, and not necessarily merit-testing. I understand, to a certain extent, as to why it's implemented: not everyone can just go to University, because here it's state-funded and taxes are high enough as is (which incidentally also disincentivizes entrepreneurship and thereby innovation), but it's still inferior and outright discriminating against children from lower-income households, and there is unfortunately a huge amount of elitism going on in German society regarding academia and having "credentials" (Germans are obsessed with having defined hierarchies and love yielding to experts). Germans are even elitist about their own language, to an extent I haven't been able to observe in other countries.
Many Germans are actually at least somewhat racist (although they will never openly admit to it), and implicitly believe that the "German" way is always better, and simply proper, so it's a tad ironic that OP wants to appear as more "exotic". Women from East or Southeast European countries seem to be preferred in large part because they are seen as poor, docile housewives to these men, so they are not even really considered as people in such situations. Looks are, or at least seem to be, only a secondary aspect, really. It's the perceived attitude of German women.
Also, when people, especially Germans themselves, say "you're so German", it's usually meant to poke fun at the overall meek attitude and rigid inflexible mentality present in many German people. It's not (always necessarily) about German people being viewed as inferior, at least from my experience.
>>26856>This is probably why you get the "you are so german" and "foreign women are much better" comments
This isn't really a German phenomenon. Men from most, if not all, countries say this about their own women while idealizing foreign women. It's the typical grass is greener mentality.
I can guarantee OP that there are foreign men out there who decry their countrywomen while thinking Germany has the most attractive women ever and she'd be their ideal wife. It's just complete nonsense no one has to pay any attention to. Because normal men don't hatefully stereotype their countrypeople like OP's pic-related poster does.
It's not just 'the grass is greener'.
A lot of the things OP states (apart from german women being ugly) are kind of true.
The thing OP doesn't realize though, is, that this has nothing to do with her at all.
Wew, this developed quite quickly into "Germans ackshually think they're superior, they're very prideful and also racist everybody!"…
>19th century and weren't helped by losing both wars the country started
Germany didn't start any wars in the 19th century. German Empire wasn't founded until 1871. Prussia won both major wars it declared in the 19th century, the AustroPrussian War and FrancoPrussian War.
…did you mean 20th century? Anonette don't critfail your history.
>>26777>I'm grateful for living in a safe 1st world country, but other than that, there's nothing nice about it.
So leave.>I'm so jealous of other people's cultures and appearances.
It's all the same.
Old buildings, shit music, bizarre make-believe rituals, ugly people just with different skin tones.
Another generic spoiled white 'ahh im so sad in my safe first world country ah i could solve this by leaving but woe is me' girl. You're even German, one of the most fetishized groups on the planet by men of color. Fucking walk to Turkey and get all the attention you need. Better yet walk into one of the migrant camps.
Goddamn I hate first world white girls. You have no idea how good you have it. You're even worse here in US. "ah im so ugly and boring" fuck off.
I may disagree with you anon (Germany seems cool and German woman sound badass) but I know the feel.
I’m from burgerland I hate knowing that I’m basically the butt of jokes everywhere. I’m simultaneously lumped into with the war loving gun fags AND the “snowflakes” on the Internet. Hell, just go on any board or YouTube comment section or verbose Quora answer and you’ll see some bundle of sticks talking about how fat/loud/unrefined Americans are and how [insert thing that’s weird anywhere] is obviously “just an American thing”.
There’s a reason why weeaboos became a thing and Americans larp as Canadians when they go overseas. The dumb obnoxious American shit is hard to shake and it’s awkward when someone gives you a critique about something you literally cannot change like your nationality.
>>26966>Another generic spoiled white 'ahh im so sad in my safe first world country ah i could solve this by leaving but woe is me' girl.>Goddamn I hate first world white girls. You have no idea how good you have it.
First of, how can you know whether I'm spoiled? Are you dumb enough to think that all Germans are magically well-off, live in picture-perfect families, have loving friends…? Secondly, like you even quoted, I literally said that I know
that I should be glad for being born here, that I am
>Fucking walk to Turkey and get all the attention you need. Better yet walk into one of the migrant camps.
Is this some "hurrdurr do you like getting raped by refugees"-shit?
Don't worry, no white girl would ever want anything to do with an asshole such as yourself either.
>>26862>Should Russians feel guilty over Stalin
Stalin was not russian, he was georgian.
Allso in my subjective opinion, not white.
According to that logic germans shouldn't feel sorry for hitler either, because he's austrian
Yes anon. You contributed to this thread so much with a single sentence response on the level of “lol learn to take a joke snowflake XD”
ask me how I know that you are british
No, but the way you accuse germans of inherting complexes is very common among british posters.
I love Germany, and I like the way the language sounds a lot. Berlin is one of my favourite cities and I've met a lot of cool people there (though I'm a bit of a club kid). The smaller towns are a bit boring and racist though, I stayed in Rostock for a couple months and visited Halle. The worst thing that happened to me was that a lady was super rude to me at Mcpaper.
>>27033I used to live in Berlin and live in Halle now! And I had a close friend in Rostock lol, what coincidence. Can confirm that the smaller the town, the more racist and backwards they get
>lol Germans hate themselves so much u guise
>actually we're proud of our cultural heritage as in poets, writers, artists, composers, rich history and architecture
>Germans are smug about militarism and hating others xD
Why were those posts deleted? What did they say?
Somebody accusing germans as a whole of having complexes
Not surprised they were deleted, it sounded like a /pol/ poster came here to sperg about Germany and world wars.
meh, wouldnt be the first time. This happens quite often on 4chn, might be that pole but who knows
No, hitler emphasised the germanic people, not the german people.
I have not deep knowledge about his ideology nor am very political intressted. So I may be wrong in this, but I think hitler saw the german people not as germans, but as germanic.
Correct, I think the austrians sould be blamed for hitler and not the germans. We live in a unjust world, where innocent people get the blame.
Through, most of Hitlers supporters lived in east prussia(as according to the election of March 1933). So I think they got what they "deserved"(I personlay dont think germany/nor ww2 was good and the redrawing of borders. Very sad and that most partys involved had flaws).
I hate mine.
Don't worry so much. Every nationality is shit.
>>26777>meanwhile the men are seen as very attractive by foreigners: tall, strong jaw line, etc
This is not true lmao
Where I'm from (eastern eu) a lot of people migrate to Germany and it's a common opinion here german men act like turbo autists and are pasty, wimpy, potato looking people. Not saying that's true at all but the stereotype of "handsome aryan man" is not prevalent here in the slightest.
Yeah, but it's not like eastern europeans see female germans in a better light either lol
Hey anon. I feel you.
I am a foreigner that has gone to German a few times, and met quite a few german guys that I noticed really were into me (they are not that good at hiding it). I attract more attention there than in my homecountry for sure. It can be flattering, however it also sucks sometimes. Sooner or later, you realize that you are some kind of le ethnic/exotic kink for men, and that feels like shit. They don't see you for you but for what you represent in their minds. Not all of them - but a lot. They might even think you are easy, just because you are a bit more nice and open to talk (even if that is just an aspect of your culture and applies to men aswell).
Anyway, just my two cents. I do notice that german women are less feminine but I think that is badass.
Now imagine being greek and all the greek guys lusting after and chasing after foreign women that come as tourists and spending the next several months posting pictures and stories on facebook and social media about how incredible they are and how all women chase them for "summer romances and how native women can't compete.
Now imagine living on a popular island, where this is a year-round phenomenon, with all the guys in your relatively small community being vapid manwhores that spend every summer in their teens and twenties having ONS with northern european women and then coming around and looking for native women to marry to appease their mommas that nag them about settling down and giving them grandchildren.
Funny. Men really are the same everywhere. You could replace "Greek" with probably most nationalities in the world and it would still be true.
I've heard about a similar behaviour among certain immigrant communities in my country and in more homogeneous countries as well. They manwhore around with foreign women or women not of their own ethnicity but expect to settle down with a native woman who should preferably be a sweet virgin because apparently that's just how it's done. Their lack of respect towards women is depressing.
Betting my ass they bitch and moan about how they're having trouble finding "pure" women to marry after being degenerates for most of their lives.
I don´t like venezuela, never have, my entire family is foreign to this country but i was born here and always struggled coming to terms with that. Would have much rather to be born and grow up in my family´s country.
Oh god, someone else from Venezuela. I'm in the same situation, although not all my family is foreign, my father's family is and many have left. But I'm still here, and every day that passes, I hate this country more and more.
If the German Empire never collapsed you would feel very different about your heritage and country. The world wars and cold wars destroyed your culture and created a sense of self-loathing. Its a shame really, other countries don't really have this problem apart from liberals who are over-socialized.
That's the dumbest thing I ever heard
>Nazism had its support base in Bavaria, the opposite end of the country from Prussia
>Hitler was Austrian and never served in the Prussian military (he fought in the BAVARIAN military!)
>The Prussian Junkers and old nobility/royalists hated Hitler and sought to block the Nazis at every turn during the Weimar Republic period (they wanted a restoration of the old Kingdom, NOT Nazism)
>Former Prussian war heroes and generals were not Nazis which is why they had to be purged
The only thing that the Prussian military
But wait, there's more. The German Empire was much more loosely confederated than other countries, each subordinate principality enjoyed tremendous amounts of freedom. It's possible that Anonette might not even identify as "German" but instead as "Hessian" or whatever.
Did they even teach you any German history in that Hauptschule?
Oops one of my lines got clipped in formatting>The only thing that the Prussian military had in common with Nazis is that the uncreative latecomers cribbed all their eagles (of course, wholesale stolen from the HRE, and by extension Rome)
books about german…
Funny you should ask, yes I have read several books about early 20th century Germany. Would you like to share some of your own collection with timestamp?
How tf do we stop the bavarians ?
>>28482>Nazism had its support base in Bavaria, the opposite end of the country from Prussia
Hitler tried a coup in Munich in 1923 and failed, even got imprisoned.
10 years later he went to Berlin and succeeded.
So yeah, evil Bavarians…
In contrast to the rest of Germany Bavaria is catholic - something Hitler hated. Many followers of the church tried to help people and were sent to camps too.
1. No one's saying all of Bavaria is full of evil people, just that it's silly to claim he was a successor to Prussia
2. In 1933 Hitler did not come to power by coup. Additionally, even though the Beer Hall Putsch was literally treason with the intent of violent overthrow of the republic, he got off with a slap-on-the-wrist judgment because he claimed he was a patriot and had a sympathetic Bavarian judge.
3. Baden-Württemberg is also Catholic. Also, being sent to a camp is not specific to being Catholic or Protestant, anyone reportedly disloyal was eligible for free camp vacation. Hitler was born into a Catholic family (unsurprising, as Austria is Catholic like Bavaria), but according to Speer, one of his closest confidants, he disapproved of all Christianity.
If you happen to be a Bavarian anonette, don't feel attacked. Bavaria has a great culture, beautiful countryside, and friendly people. I'm just pointing out it's absurd to connect Nazism to "Prussian militarism". You would have an easier time connecting the American Revolution to "British militarism", since you could at least say Washington was a former British officer.
You've got to love the shit-tier moderation of this place, when topic related posts get deleted, while off topic history circle jerking is tolerated.
Israel wouldn't exist without WW2
There is probably only one bavarian
poster here and it is me
Us in the rest of Europe might not have it well in that case, but fuck, it would be so much better, in multiple ways.
So yeah, fuck burgers, commies and Israel.
I feel like talking about Germany's national history is relevant to talking about someone's anxiety over their own culture. But, as a gesture of goodwill because we are better here in Diamond Diner than on other imageboards, I won't post about history anymore in this thread. Even if someone posts something dumb and wrong.
I'm from Luxembourg and I don't think I'd have chosen to be born anywhere else if I could!
Although, I'm not sure it's that great of a place either since I feel so alienated..
Are you the same Anon from >>28747
? If so, staying patient is the best advice I can give I guess. Maybe joining clubs or social groups could help?
venezuela is garbage, it has no redemption , the whole place should get nuked.
at least you're not from poland…
I am! Don't worry though, I just wanted to vent. I'll find someone eventually.
I Fucking hate being greek>i hate the language
i cant even speak it well t b h>i look like a man and have a huge nose>im poor>other greeks are cringe normies>im not attracted to greek men(russians and germans are quter)>the food and weather isnt my aesthetic>i will brobs be stuck here for the following 5 years cause uni>>27402
which island?do you study there?
I used to dislike it but as I matured I realised it's better here, compared to the US and some Western Europe countries. They are waaay too liberal.
Yes. I hate being polish, we're rightfully a laughing stock of every other nation.
>>26790>>26791>they all say while drowning in chaos amidst a deafening silence spawned by political correctness and a culture of self-censorship
Suffering is universal, doesn't matter who what where when you are
Euroanon here. The only negative stereotypes I know about Polish people is that you steal cars and are poor. These aren't even that bad. If I were Polish, I wouldn't be able to take them seriously.
If it makes you feel any better, I really think other people are associated with even more AND worse stereotypes. Which sucks (for them) of course but that's sadly how the world is.
God I hate this place so much.
Cerra el orto, Argentina es el mejor pais del mundo mundial.
I feel like I don't belong in my country. I think more and more of the hundreds of years that my grandparents lived in one place. I think of the fact that both of my maternal grandparents came from the same area in Europe, both of my paternal grandparents came from a different area in Europe a thousand miles away, and now I'm here, in America, with no way of reconciling the difference between them or having some ancestral place to belong to. I think my obsession with history is because I want to forget this fact. I've been reading Herodotus lately, thinking about the way people mixed across the mediterranean, the rarity and therefore emphasis that was placed upon it. The mixing of two people from different places was a representation of the fact that those two places themselves were likely mixing. It was upheaval, almost always. One was the client of another or conquered by another. Even being allied was not a strong enough relationship to support this intermixing. If members of one city-state split off and moved away, those members would consider themselves brothers of the old one for hundreds of years. They would always be allies.
I guess what I'm saying is: there's a reason America is so individualistic. It's because the racial heritage that a person has is no longer representative of the transformation of the known world, but only representative of the whims of her parents. That I am me, that I live here, means nothing beyond myself. I want a meaning beyond myself, and I don't know how to find that in America. >>28541
Thank you for posting what you did, it was informative. How can you talk about your nation and your relationship to it, without thinking of its national history?
Frim a fellow Germanic woman, you really should not let yourself be beaten up by a shitty comment from literally DAVID KRÄMER.
Embrace your germanness and don't hang out with losers who need their women to be weak. There are plenty which find us attractive and suitable, but they aren't very vocal, due to people like David Krämer.
Your mistake is that you want to swim in the media mainstream. There is literally zero reason to hate your ancestry, but for Germans it's common now.
Don't worry, the time where meek underweight unconventional physically inferior people adapted to distant climates are considered ideal mates will not last forever.
I admire German women. Whenever I see them in various news stories or documentaries, they don't give a fuck about what doesn't matter.
Since when are Turkish, Polish, Russian or Scandinavian women "meek underweight unconventional physically inferior people"?
Being proud of one's ancestry and country doesn't mean looking on down on other countries.
It's weird being polish, on one hand a lot of foreign men seem to really like slavic women on the other I think they see us as an easy target because in their minds we're supposed to fall for them because of their money which I find disgusting (the fact that some women actually do isn't helping). And sometimes I get these vibes as well>>31860 Nice to see another polish anon btw :)
I love being Swedish and I love the Swedish people. Screw the haters.
Does anybody hate Swedes?
Jesus, try being Romanian, then we can talk.
So german women aren't viewed as sex dolls for insecure faggots with beer belly and the emotional development of a retarded 14 year old?
Oh boy, that hurts.
Swedish women > Finnish women but Ahvenanmaalaiset are the best
Yeah, sometimes I kind of hate the experience of being mainland Chinese. Part of it is the reaction from others. There's a lot of negative news about mainland China nowadays in the west, which causes people to react negatively when mainland China is brought up. Part of it is directed at the government (i.e. human rights issues, HK protests, etc.), but a part of it is toward the people as well (like Chinese tourists behaving badly, general lack of ethics).
But beyond hating how other people perceive me, I have to admit that sometimes I wish I were some other Asian nationality, like maybe I'll take an ancestry test and come out to be less than 100% Chinese. I'm enamored with things from other Asian cultures (kind of a weeb and Koreaboo). I love media from Japan and Korea. Modern Chinese media just doesn't have the same level of 'coolness', and the ones that try to go for the cool factor are usually just copying styles from Korea. I'd much rather cook foods from other Asian countries than learn to cook family recipes that are passed down the generations. I think it's a bit sad because I was originally born in mainland China and spent part of my childhood there, and there is a rich culture in China spanning thousands of years, but I just can't bring myself to be all that interested in it.
No, I respect my ancestors for surviving in the rough terrain they existed within. I do have a lot of contempt towards people from my country that's mostly due to them rejecting me a lot for being too westernized and not being extroverted enough.
I don't. Some seem to dislike my nationality/ethnicity and get downright offended when I don't grovel for their approval, but I don't live to please them.
My grandparents fought in WW2 as Partisans, my great-grandfather founded the Resistance in his native village and was a political prisoner when the Croatian Nazi government at the time found him out, my great-grandma ran an entire estate by herself when great-grandpa's batallion had to flee to Corfu in the Great War over the mountains in the dead of winter, and she reared my grandpa at the same time. This woman was so wise despite not knowing how to read or write, and encouraged my grandma to become college educated at a time when getting university education was like getting a PhD, and women barely even went to school. My grandma on my mom's side came to my country as a Hungarian Jewish refugee in the Kladovice transport scheme and people of my hometown were the only ones who offered them shelter and protection. I'm very happy to have been born in a town like that.
People usually don't have a good opinion of my country because of things that happened in the 90s and I've also received some shockingly anti-Semitic comments from people who are otherwise very PC, but that is not my fault and I'm not ashamed to be where I'm from. I come from a place where people fought for what they believed in and stared death in the eyes on several occasions despite their small numbers, and that is something I am incredibly proud of.
Can’t relate because I’m Amerimutt but I guess I really like my heritage? I’m 1/2 Japanese and 1/2 Icelandic. Iceland is really into heritage and legacies and family trees so I know so much about that side but then on my other side… no records besides my grandparents who moved to the “land of opportunity”
what are you? Serbo-croat-jew mix?>>32291
China and chinese culture went through alot during cultural revolution. That may be reason why chinese culture isn't as "cool" as japanese or korean, but still, you shouldn't feel bad about it, China dominated them culturaly for thousands of years, and those "cool" stuff may be of chinese origin
good, now imagine be born at brazil. Did u? Happyly i was born the best region, the south and a few good things here are the german cultural influence. Thank god.
The China history just is not mainstream, actually, this get some attention because japaneses mangas, like Kingdom. Obviously because mangos the japanese culture spread out over the world. China was pretty good before communism but its only remembered cuz communism. Its almost the same for germans, a great history that was forgeted to push WWII propaganda.
My mother is Iraqi and my father is Australian. I love Australia, its quirks and dumb shit included, but I fucking despise my mother's entire culture. Sure, Australians can be patronising to women, but for the other side of my family there is this this thin veneer of peaceful acceptance which sits on top of a deep muddy quagmire of seething hatred and jealous domination. Watching the way my grandfather and uncles treat my mother because she became pregnant out of wedlock to an atheist foreigner, and how it was mirrored by just about everyone in the Iraqi community here told me everything I needed to know.
White Australians constantly try to tell me I don't know REAL Iraqi culture and present me with these cherrypicked stories of extreme hospitality, sipping chai with women, Christians and Jews. They just can't stomach the idea of me disliking my own family's culture because it means they can't scream racism and xenophobia then give themselves a pat on the back.
>>26801>178cm>tfw I'm 186cm and never considered myself a giantess
I'm 175 and I never considered myself anything more than a bit above average, either that anon is surrounded by midgets or idk what cause that height not worth getting a complex over
I'm a white American but I can relate.
Living in Mexico is…kind of scary sometimes. Especially as a woman.
But every country has its' problems, I still love being Mexican.
I absolutely love the culture and our past, Aztec mythology is really interesting and so is Mayan astronomy.
Also the people here are really kind, even in someone else's house you feel at home.
We are a little lost right now and I can't say that things are looking brighter, I believe things are going to get worse actually…but after a storm comes a calm, after all.
I'm from poland. Years ago when I was agl kid, around 2000-2005, people were making jokes about German women being ugly. It was in the media like tv and press. I don't hear those jokes anymore. It was just a fad I guess. On ok Cupid I see all types of women from Europe. German, Scandinavian or Slavic. I couldn't state that German ones are any more ugly than the other. Hating your genes does you no good. You should spend that time on improving your mind and body instead. There's plenty of bf material in your league. Finding someone smart might be a challenge though, for attractive and unattractive kinds alike.>>32188
A huge amount of German men visit Gdańsk to sex prostitutes. How do you deal with that?
German women are fine but dutch and Scandinavian women (especially Swedes) are better.
>German hates herself
Literally 99.999% of people want to look like German women especially if you are blonde and blue eyed. I'm not sure if you've ever heard this but people use attributes like blonde to describe someone's perks. Like guys will describe a girl as skinny, big butt, blonde. That ethnicity is as attractive as the predominant physical qualities that turn people on, and it's universal. All non-whites wish they looked like you, white beauty is the pinnacle and defining standard of beauty. Non-whites and 'exotic' women usually have high degrees of admixture that makes them just a drop foreign but not too non-white or else they'd be unacceptable
Speak for yourself.
Even though I'm mixed and mostly European (not blonde though), it's bullshit to just accept and push "white beauty is the pinnacle" to build up someone's confidence. I think people from all ethnicities have their own type of beauty. You don't have to appreciate it but don't peddle harmful views that lead to women developing self-hatred over their perfectly fine "non-white" features.
Non-white women are ugly, though
That's just your opinion.
I find myself mostly attracted to non-white or mixed women, personally. But I won't call blonde white women objectively unattractive lol.
>>34899> Literally 99.999% of people want to look like German women especially if you are blonde and blue eyed.
Ummm no, lol. I very much enjoy being brunette and having brown eyes.
Every race has fuglies.. I don’t think any are superior.
Why are black anons always the most self hating? It’s like the Asians on boy boards. Who hurts you guys?
we're the least desirable women and that's made clear to us on a very regular basis from childhood.
80% of black women are obese
Standard black features:
short appearing hair due to coily nature
high testosterone levels in general
higher muscle mass
and many more
are all masculine features that the average black female has more of than women of any other race, thereby making us unfeminine and ugly just by default. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/between-the-lines/201109/kanazawa-apologizes-black-unattractiveness-article-apparently-gets
Of course I do my best to be feminine and to not be fat, but that doesn't undo the nigger features.
Most males envision a pale skinned girl when they envision a woman they will fall in love with, even just to be dark skinned is failing life at the very start. But to be dark skinned and black is a literal curse.
this thread is just sad
My life is generally OK but there's definitely a few things that make me wish I'd been born just about anywhere else but America.
im not but even if i were, i'd still be right
those black girls are cute tho
Racists don’t think so tho and racists (aka the male imageboards) combined the two pictures in the first place.
Racists are racist QED
They are ugly as hell and more than half of them look like dudes in a wig, in all honesty
You have very poor taste anon. They are all hideous
I, a black girl, combined the two images. I guess I’m a racist that’s true but I’m willing to wager heavily that if you asked anyone to rate the appearances of the girls on the left they would rate them all as far below average even alone. In comparison to the average white girls they don’t even look human
Not the anon you replied to but you're being overly harsh imo, that image is comparing a heavily filtered shot of girls posing in makeup against a scene of people chilling in someone's kitchen with literal shawls on their heads in a photo that appears to have been just taken by a low tier smartphone and even then they don't look too bad. I can't imagine looking at the pic on the left and instantly declaring the girls "hideous" without any social conditioning at work.
Many of the left ones also have makeup on and evidently made an effort to dress nicely. They still look like dudes.
No, but I hate your nationality too, kraut
they're at a public high school. Yes, their clothes do look like something that should only be worn at home but that is what they chose to wore in public. They are all wearing makeup and they are protesting their rights to wear those ugly shawls in public because it represents our nigger heritage, apparently.
There's always social conditioning at work. No one is born in a vacuum. Fact is, the 'social conditioning' always says the same thing. Nigger ugly, whites beautiful. So be proud to be white.
Moreover, the girls in the left picture have little in common aside from dark skin (in various shades) and dark-brown hair. Their faces and body types are pretty different.
It doesn't make sense to write them all off as "hideous" and "dude"-looking.
That's the thing, in all shades and forms that black can come in, it's all ugly. Ugly comes in a variety of forms.
Most of them are fat. Their noses are all too wide, most of their skin is too dark, their hair is ugly unless it's straightened, they have poor fat distributions, they just have poor facial architecture period.
Meanwhile, the blondes are all 8-9/10
Just go kill yourself so I don't have to read this self hating drivel
Have some respect for yourself for fucks sake
it would be really selfish of me to an hero even though i'd like to. I just have to continue being bitter about this until i find a good reason not to.
Then do me a favor and grow the fuck up. Nothing is pretty about a person that hates things that they can't change about themselves.
I think just the fact that black people have been able to procreate should mean enough for you, you exist because your two "ugly" and "inferior" parents got together and found each other attractive enough. Stop worrying about this dumb shit
Your dog doesn’t procreate b/c other dogs are “beautiful”. It does it out of instinct. Blacks mate the same way and produce veritable litters of children they don’t care about and raise into little burdens on society
white women are so…
did you just unironically compare blacks with fucking dogs?
and if you genuinely believe that, why should it be any different for whites?
unless you believe in white supremacy or some other /pol/ shit which would be strange for a black person>>35016
and even if we say that most women in that picture were ugly, what the hell is one cherry-picked image even supposed to say?
here, I shoddily put together a cherry-picked image, isn't it just insane
how ugly white women are?
Funny pic, however in real life black women are far more likely to be obese than white women lol
That's only for poc in America. It that's because Americans put too much sugar and starches in everything and eat little to no fresh foods. White people have at least 200 years then other ethnicities to adapt to the consumption of sugar and it still greatly affects them.
Surely you could've found a better image to illustrate your point.
note the "shoddily"
I just searched for "black women group" and went with the first result. and you don't find them to be good-looking?
but fine, have this one instead then
point is that I can always cherry-pick pictures of good-looking/ugly people from any race
You can keep posting these all day long, I guarantee you if you asked public consensus that even these extremely photoshopped women would be rated as less attractive than average white females. They're all at best 7s, average for white women. Nearly no dark skinned black women are 10/10s, I can't think of a single one.
Beauty is subjective, but those are some objectively ugly ass bimbos.
>>35100>Squared jaws>Long noses with thin bridges>Semi-straightened hair>Prognathism barely visible
So to illustrate your point you picked some who have caucasoid traits? This is unintentionally hilarious
even if that were true (n*ggers in Africa are fat if they're not starving) that would still make most blacks fat and ugly. Like all liberals and black pride idiots, you keep giving excuses for black underachievement, without acknowledging the fact that this proves blacks underperform. Maybe it isn't our fault, maybe it is, doesn't matter. The point is that blacks are fat, ugly, stupid, worthless, and unattractive. Point blank and simple
This isn't an issue with German men, this is an issue with men of every nationality. They will always trash their own women and fetishize foreigners.
Men usually have the most experience with women from their own ethnic group. Men will eventually get annoyed with and resent familiar women since these women will either ignore them or eventually get tired of their shit and call them out for it, which men perceive as “bitchy”. However, they think these flaws are just due to culture as they see these other women who are “different”. They perceive them to be hot/submissive/easygoing since they don’t have as much exposure to them. It’s only when these men travel and date around that they realize that women “are all the same” (aka find the same flaws in them that their own culture did).
I call it The Life Cycle of a PUA
The real point you’ve exposed is that black women are just ugly even if you try to cherry pick attractive ones, absolututamente asquereso