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The strength of men scares me Anonymous 31526

I am a caddy for my part time job (best job for an unskilled highschooler or university student btw). There is this cute guy there I have a crush on, but he seems quite shy and just likes to read his book while waiting for a golfer. The few times we’ve talked he seems quite pleasant.

I’ve always known men were stronger than us, but it’s another thing to see it in person. I’ve noticed that when he caddies, he carries the entire golf bag with one arm by the handle up and out to his side, kind of like the pose when flexing your bicep, and he fucking SPRINTS with it. He runs ahead on each hole to see where the ball lands, and he runs significantly faster than the golf carts.

He doesn’t even look like some sort of muscle beast from /fit/. He’s just a tall, thin, toned guy who might lift a few times a week. He could probably kill me with a single punch, and then follow up with 80 more without running out of breath. I would probably have a panic attack if we got in an argument and he got angry and started shouting. I don’t even know how you could have an equal relationship with someone when the difference in power is so immense. They say it’s borderline rape when a CEO fucks an intern due to the difference in power, but what about physical power?

I was already a little afraid of men’s predatory instincts and behavior, but to see it reinforced that whenever I’m around men I’m only alive because they permit it freaks me out. How do you cope with this?

Anonymous 31527

Therapy, you're being paranoid.

Anonymous 31528

>tall, thin, toned guy who might lift a few times a week
Lift more than him and get some self-defense lessons. Befriend him at the same time and ask for arm wrestling matches to test your strength.
Once you're sure you can overpower him, make him your boy toy.

Anonymous 31529


1 out of every 5 women is raped. Countless others are stuck in abusive relationships or are victims of domestic violence. I do not want to be a victim.

In the past men would slap broads on tv for laughs. Many men have an intense urge to hurt and torture women, think of all the bdsm porn. This isn’t paranoia, it’s reality.

Anonymous 31530

Lift moar.

Anonymous 31560

>This isn’t paranoia. Wait, no, it’s paranoia.

Anonymous 31565


Anonymous 31569

As far as romance goes, get a weak partner, duh.
My "crush" at the moment is shorter and weaker than me. Sauce: He couldn't open a jammed door that I opened with ease.
I'm a relatively big gal though, I imagine it would be more difficult for a 5'1" woman or something.

As for society as a whole, just take precautions and accept it. Take up a martial art if it bothers you so.
I mean, people without working legs are even more vulnerable than women and they're out there living. Think of them. Or dwarfs.

Anonymous 31570

Considering that men are socialised to be afraid of touching women out of hand and even more so when it comes to hurting women, I wouldn't worry about it. In addition, they are biologically driven to be emotionally directed by women's emotional expressions (even if insincere), especially their partner and family and friends. Why do you think men side with women on everything, even if they internally disagree? Women are the centre of social consensus and norms, men know this subconsciously and act accordingly. So a man has to be mentally ill to ignore the extreme aversion that would come with a woman expressing pain or distraught emotions at his hand.

Completely delusional. I'd even go so far as to say men are abused by women more than the other way around, just that physically and emotionally they are designed, if not meant to take it (and may not even recognise it as such). Both socially and biologically. Of course any data on this is useless because no one would report it nor recognise a report as legitimate to begin with. Whereas it's currently trendy for shitty types of women to give generous self-victimising accounts of their supposed abuse for social points, often obscuring real abuse as the whole thing becomes entirely based on the social and media side than the actual issue. This is men's fate and completely fine in my opinion, but certain women blowing their side out of proportion to justify and reinforce their mental illnesses as well as incelish hatred of men, is not good for anyone but the insidious actors who control social media and the flow of these memes. For starters, it leaves you irrationally scared and hateful of half the population. Once again the internet feeds self-destructive behaviour to make you as impotent and disordered as possible.

Anonymous 31571

really happy wrest…

>just likes to read his book
>he carries the entire golf bag with one arm by the handle up and out to his side, kind of like the pose when flexing your bicep, and he fucking SPRINTS with it.
>he runs significantly faster than the golf carts.
>tall, thin, toned guy
>He could probably kill me with a single punch
He sounds fucking hot

Anonymous 31572

You really triggered the moids, lmaO.

Anonymous 31574

1 in 5 is a meme. The number came from a college survey and was about assaults that occurred throughout all their college years, not yearly rapes, and not actual reported rape numbers. If you count the total number of reported rapes in the US in 2018, only 0.03% of the total population was raped. 101,500 rapes in a country with +167,000,000 women.
How many people do you know that have been victims of domestic violence? In my 24 years of life I've only heard about it once, and it was between a drug addict and his alcoholic gf.
>In the past men would slap broads on tv for laughs
That was what, over 20, 30 years ago? Nobody does this or thinks it's funny nowadays. Irrelevant in today's society where boys are told to never hit girls and men can have their lives rightfully ruined if they ever hit a women. If anything women hitting men is actually used as comedy.
In 2018 Pornhub did a survey of the most searched terms by men. Out of 20 categories, bondage was in the very last place. Even if you check by the number of videos, bondage is at the one of the lowest points on the list. Actually something interesting that I found while looking this up was that on the survey "hentai" and "japanese" were listed at the top, but they actually have lower amounts of videos. That says a lot about what kind of men constitute the porn audience (weebs and yellow fever incels that would never interact with you irl).

Instead of thinking all men want to rape you, look up where and who commits the most crimes against women. Ask yourself, where do most domestic violence calls come from? The majority of men who commit crimes against women come from low income households, poor and high crime areas, are minorities, etc. For example, there are whole years where not a single white male/black female rape was reported, so black women should mostly worry about black men living near them. Decent men born and raised by normal people as normal men aren't going to rape you. You should be afraid if you live in a shitty city filled with crime, drug addicts, alcoholics, and minorities. You should take precautions and be safe, but not have an irrational fear where men's physical strength alone causes you to question your life.
Damn 1st world problems.

Anonymous 31575

Tall, cute, muscular, athletic, shy, and reads books? OP, if you're afraid of him then I'll be happy to take him instead.

Anonymous 31576


My shithole country doesn't let you carry a gun, or even a knife in self-defense. All I get is pepper spray, and I fear that a mugging or sexual assault would turn to murder as the pain makes the moid go berserk and snap my neck. Conventional wisdom says to get a big strong boyfriend to protect you, but you are more likely to get attacked by your man than some random guy. Maybe I should become a pitbull mommy or something.

Anonymous 31577


Just train Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. Women with a higher belt will routinely beat a man, even a big buff one.

I've only started training recently and it's pretty fun. It's the perfect martial art in bed as it's all about ground game, and no one gets badly hurt like in a striking art.


>when she playfully plays the bongo on his ass after winning

So fucking hot. I've masturbated to this video and now routinely masturbate by imagining similar scenarios. I can't wait to get a guy in bed just to twist him into a pretzel and completely dominate him, coiling around him and leaving him no escape as I suck him dry and turn him into my own personal fucktoy.

After gaining a few belts, invite the guy on a date where you teach him some Jiu-Jitsu and spar with him. It'll be glorious when you facesit him and choke him out between your thighs. Maybe he can then teach you about lifting.

Anonymous 31578

You're not getting anyone if you just keep masturbating like that. You should try training instead, and don't hold onto that fantasy so weirdly. You're just gonna creep people out.

Anonymous 31579

Imagine being a prude square in this day and age.

Anonymous 31580

What if he's strong enough to pick you up and not put you down?

Anonymous 31581

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Depends how he grabs you, but probably some variation of an airborne triangle choke.

Anonymous 31582

I'm trying to help you not be a sweaty recluse seen at porn conventions.

Anonymous 31583

>if a woman has an actual libido and likes to masturbate sometimes along with a few kinks she must be a full blown degenerate coomer who religiously visits porn conventions

Don't tell me you're some sort of """traditional""" r/redpillwoman PickMe that is against sex before marriage and will inevitably deadbedroom your miserable husband due to being a frigid bitch with no sex drive.

Anonymous 31584

I like the cut of your jib, anon.

Anonymous 31585

If you only date men shorter than you, then you probably won't have to worry about this.

I also fantasise about grappling guys with my own two hands…

Anonymous 31586

What if you meet someone who isn't into getting manhandled? It's an extremely niche fetish. What're you going to do when it comes to, and he's not into it? Just do it anyway because that's how your fantasies play out?

Anonymous 31587

I don't find physical strength scary, but it disgusts me a little bit.

Anonymous 31588


Sounds like by the time the poor lad is in bed with her and finds out, it will already be too late lol.

Anonymous 31589

You do know the real world doesn't work like porn. Right? She'll get a lot of "based" replies to the thread with her mugshot in it. That's about it.

Anonymous 31590

I can tell you from experience having eaten a lot of tear gas to the face (basically the same stuff as pepper spray) that it's not the kind of pain that makes you go berserk, but rather the kind of pain and discomfort that incapacitates you.

Anonymous 31595


talking about grappling, the girls win every match in the sccal championship three years in a row!


Anonymous 31597

>>31595 The fights are separated by gender…

Anonymous 31598

no they're not

Anonymous 31610

Anonymous 31613


My reconnaissance of male forums and reddit indicates that most men enjoy a women who is eager, active in bed, and initiates often vs a starfish. Many women are submissive and want to be thrown around, slapped, and choked by big strong men in bed, but the number of natural male doms who get off on hurting women is actually pretty small. Many men play along because that’s what their girlfriend wants, but they grow tired of having to do everything in bed and having all their actions be resisted as if she doesn’t want it. A lot of them also start to look down on their girlfriends in secret.

The number of female doms is also far outnumbered by the number of males subs, so I’m sure she could find a sub but that may not be what she actually wants. Many male subs (and women subs too I suppose) have psychological issues and want a mommy girlfriend to take care of them, and tend not to be alpha and exciting out of bed. They tend to be manchildren, and taking care of them can be exhausting for the dom. I honestly think vanilla sex or occasional switch bdsm, but only in bed, is the ideal relationship. Most men probably don’t want to be literally choked out in bed, but I’m sure they’d be ecstatic if their girlfriend occasionally climbed on top and fucked him senseless. Some play wrestling in bed honestly sounds like pretty fun and sexy foreplay, whether he wins, mounts me, and gives me a good fuck from behind, or I win and get some hot forced oral. I think far more men than you think would be up for it.

Anonymous 31623

>implying most rapes are reported
>disregarding a college survey then using one from pornhub
>claiming women hit men for comedy
>claiming women should not fear men unless they're black
>complaining about "1st world problems"
mods pls ban this moid

Anonymous 31624

Be careful anon, I wouldn't use males on reddit and and forums as a good representation of the male population as a whole

Anonymous 31625

>Women with a higher belt will routinely beat a man, even a big buff one.

Correction: they will beat them by BJJ rules, not by real world rules (aka no rules).

Anonymous 31626

i mean the SCCAL championship, the south california coast atletic federation hampionship, not the state championship

some girl win state championships tho

Anonymous 31627


wait that's not even a state championship, that's just pro wrestling

Anonymous 31628

That's also what guys in the comment section of this video say.

Plus, it proves that OP isn't paranoid at all. A lot of men secretly look down on women for being weak and physically inferior to them. Nobody respects weak humans. It's just like school bullying: The weak get hurt and picked on because it's easy to do so.

Anonymous 31629


technically, yes tehre's a lot of things you can do outside of the bjj ruleset that could give you an advantage over someone who weight less than you
but the hard truth is that if you're not a grappler yourself, you don't know how to use those advantages or even that those advantages exist, a woman with a higher belt will beat a guy and also a guy in the street who doesn't know how to grapple

Anonymous 31630

Why are moids so obsessed with being physically superior to women and making sure everyone knows they're better at sports? It's pathetic

Anonymous 31631

>implying most rapes are reported
Not the point. I'm talking about OP misinterpreting the 1 in 5 meme.
>disregarding a college survey then using one from pornhub
That's why I checked the actual number of available videos. It matches with the survey results so no problem there.
>claiming women hit men for comedy
Literally a staple of Japanese comedy. But what I meant to say is that you can use women gently hurting men to be funny, but you can't do that with men.
>claiming women should not fear men unless they're black
Missing the point. The point was that your fears should be based on the dangers in your environment.
>complaining about "1st world problems"
Well yes, that's what it is. I wish worrying about the strength of a cute boy was the worst part of my day. If you want proof that I'm a girl, ask for whatever you want.

Anonymous 31651


if you wanna be stronger than most guys just do some bjj, technique alays beat raw strenght


Anonymous 31652


Plot twist: OP takes place in the American Northeast and this tall shyboi will only see a woman romantically if she could physically overwhelm him

Anonymous 31653

Men are scary anon, I agree. Scary ≠ evil though, in fact I would say most of them are good people fundamentally, if you ignore their foibles. Anyway, I look at it like this - I need to find a big strong man who I know is good and I can trust, so I can turn that fear and anxiety into a sense of safety and protection. I am intimidated by men, but I also want one, you know?

Anonymous 31658


Anonymous 31660

>I’m alive because they permit it
That’s life. Anytime you’re walking on the sidewalk, any car could run you over. Whenever you’re buying/being given food, it could be poisoned. Any person you let approach, could stab you. And yet we do all these things because life is easier if we trust people to a reasonable extent.

Anonymous 31685

it's called trust lol

Anonymous 31689


Anonymous 31691

Anonymous 31699

>1 out of every 5 women is raped
I cannot believe people still believe this. I blame cuckboy "feminists" for spreading this around in a desperate attempt to get pussy and glorified whore Stacies for screaming rape whenever they get caught by Chad with Brad. Non-monogamy was a mistake.

Anonymous 31702

I searched it and the figure got popular after Obama used it in a speech.
>a ProQuest search of newspaper and magazine articles in English whose titles included the terms campus, college, or universit and the term rape, raping, sexually assault, sexual assault, sex assault*, or sexual violence revealed 3,630 articles in 2014–2015 compared with only 638 in 2012–2013. Of these popular press articles in 2014–2015, the phrase “1in5” or “one in five” appeared in 709 of them.
Thanks MSM.

Anonymous 31703

My bf accidentally hit me 'lightly' once because he spun around too fast and it left me dazed for two days and bruised for nearly a week. It's scary if he hits me fore sure yeah, but he cried about it for like three hours and that kinda put me off of him and not really ever worry about that possibility again. :\

Anonymous 31708

both holding back

Anonymous 31714

Yeah in both cases the men aren't even trying they're basically just standing there. The 1st was trying to disengage as she was attacking him, the 2nd didn't try to do anything not even hold her to stop the takedown. If the 1st just stood in a stable stance she wouldn't be able to take him down despite having all that fat and good technique, because she wouldn't be able to pull him into the throw to get the needed force to make him go down.

And this is just onesided playfighting really. Even a weak enraged man is very dangerous and unbeatable largely due to ferocity alone. They're designed to turn into killing machines when faced with serious adversary, much like fighting dogs. These videos just mean the men didn't consider the women to be real threats or retrained themselves for social reasons (they'd probably get beaten up by other men if they seriously defended themselves).

Anonymous 31718

>They're designed to turn into killing machines
Yeah, which is why men are horrible and should die out.
All they want to do is rape and murder women, children, and each other.

Anonymous 31720

[King Crimson starts playing]

Anonymous 31722

you're right the human race should just end all together

Anonymous 31723

Hell yeah, you know what's up.

Anonymous 31724

You sound full of ambition.

Anonymous 31726

I don't think men should die out but women should be less trusting of and stay away from them. Without exceptions.

It just doesn't make any sense to trust someone who's not only physically stronger than you and could beat you to a pulp if he wanted to but also doesn't have an ounce of respect for you due to your lack of physical strength. (Yes, even your wonderful husbands and loving boyfriends consider you less as them unless they're in the initial state of being pussywhipped.)

Like >>31714 said, the men who were being attacked by the women in the videos didn't even respect them enough to fight with their full strength. That's the sole reason the women "won", it wasn't even a fair win. Men don't and will never consider us their equals due to our different natures. Trusting and giving your love to someone like that is pure foolishness.

Anonymous 31727

What terrible paranoia. Millions of women live happy peaceful lives with their husbands, brothers, and fathers. Being assaulted isn't the norm. I don't know what you experienced that made you think like this, but it clearly left a mark on you and you should seek professional help.

Anonymous 31729


True, I think men place too much importance on physical strength in others as well as lose theory of mind the less a living being has in common with them. Hence men generally are loud bullies of manlets/weak men (since it's socially acceptable, those who reject social norms openly hate women as well) and abuse animals at a far higher rate than women. Along with the testosterone aggression, of course. They respect men who look like them the most, but even then the test makes them fight each other.

Men also, generally, don't keep pets for company. Men prefer dogs since it's a "useful" animal but very few will enjoy animals like cats just to cuddle and spend time with.
Not that "pure" animal love is indicative of a man who will care for and respect human beings. Ian Brady allegedly loved animals. It's just a trend I've noticed.

Men simply have piss poor empathy lmao. I almost feel bad for them…you know, because I'm a woman.

Sure, it is possible to live in peace with them but they can never love us like we love them. It's sad to think about.
And they are a very real threat, just as living with a Pit Bull is.

Men frustrate me so much. It comes out as hate at times, but it's not exactly. Fear and frustration since we both have our weaknesses and strengths but they don't want us to think we have any, or our strengths are inherently "lesser."

Anonymous 31730

>unless they're in the initial state of being pussywhipped
You're twofaced. Seriously. Go see a shrink. You're having some kind of schism.

Anonymous 31732

This isn't just about being assaulted. Of course it's not the norm. It's more about the fact that men can't respect people who are inferior to them in certain ways (which also includes other men, by the way). Since women are generally physically weaker than them, they will never be able to take us seriously and see us as being on the same level as them, so how can you trust someone who thinks you're beneath him?

If you don't believe personal anecdotes, you can find millions of men on the internet whose opinions led me to this belief.

I've never experienced male violence against myself. Don't make baseless assumptions.

Anonymous 31734

You trust them just like millions of other women around the world do. You tell people not to make assumptions yet you make your own assumptions about all men. I'm sorry that you're clearly in denial about whatever issue you have, hopefully you accept it one day and seek help. I'm done having irrational conversations with you, good luck in life.

Anonymous 31735

>make your own assumptions about all men
Based on evidence. There are thousands of videos, blogs and whathaveyou out there where you can easily see that men have no respect but only disdain for us. Look up "Woman: The Most Responsible Teenager In The House" and go from there or start with videos like this one. Skip to the comments and tell me what you see.

>I'm done having irrational conversations with you

It's not irrational if proof exists. You're only "done" with this because you can't argue against my point.

Anonymous 31736

The funny thing is that you have all this hatred in your mind, but probably castrate yourself over racism. Go figure.

Anonymous 31737

>These couple of comments on the internet are proof that all 3,500,000,000(give or take) men on earth are this exact way

Ok radfoomer

Anonymous 31739

Did you reply to the wrong post?

Anonymous 31741


Anonymous 31751

>and also a guy in the street who doesn't know how to grapple

Yes, as long as she attacks first and manages to take him to the ground at once.
Otherwise it's punches in the face for her.

Anonymous 31756


>If they beat the crap out of them they're violent savages
>If they don't they're assholes with no respect for the weaker (?)
You know that "damned if you do, damned if you don't" logic is typical of manipulative people, right?

Anonymous 31759

Don't worry. I've already called the men in white on her. To the funny farm!

Anonymous 31763

I don't see any hatred. More like distrust and pessimism.
It sounds like the female version of a man from the MGTOW movement or TheRedPill community.

Anonymous 31769

That's hatred, too.

Anonymous 31774


Get a gun

Anonymous 31789


>Sure, it is possible to live in peace with them but they can never love us like we love them
Those self-indulgent mommy-issue-having fucks feel the same way about us. They feel entitled to have a gf, yet don't have one because they're shitty people, and so they feel anger or self-pity of not having what they feel entitled to. This is only magnified in the white knights who see themselves as "not like the other bois :^)", because they don't understand that being nice to a girl does not equal free coochie.

Anonymous 31806


those are girls wining tournaments, that means guys who aren¿t holding back, guys who can beat average joes in seconds, are getting beat by women


i'll give you another example: https://www.bjjee.com/articles/teen-girl-uses-bjj-submit-male-amateur-mma-22-seconds/

take a look at this, the guy who's from a kickboxing gym in mexico throw a jab at the girl who just dodge it and submit the guy, again thi is a guy who punch faster than 90% of the population and the girl just duck and ends the fight in 20 seconds, there's no male magic power, if a guy don't know how to fight he will lose against a trained woman

Anonymous 31812

t. LARPing male weakling searching for validation here
you are probably below 5'8 too lol

Anonymous 31813

True, sadly

Anonymous 31814

Male weaklings get bullied by strong males, too. I would have sympathy for them if they didn't bully even weaker beings like babies or children.

Anonymous 31815

Why can't manlets just accept being small and cute? The world would be so much better.

Anonymous 31816

Ever wondered why weight classes exist or how many rules apply outside of professional sports and training grounds? While training for self-defence is actually a great idea and BJJ is a great idea as well, do not get all hyped and overconfident and if you see a very big scary guy coming for you, run immediately. Fight should be the last resort and at any rate objects work better than bare hands against someone who is way larger.

I have seen many such cases happen, just a couple weeks ago some young cocky dude who boasted having trained in muay thai for 9+ years (and later his friends confirmed it was true and he was also quite good at it) got into a brawl with a bigger fat dude who is a tube of lard that does nothing but smoke joints all day. Fat dude knocked him out so hard one of the muay thai dude's teeth was left imbedded in his hand.
Moral, do not be cocky and do not overestimate your capabilities even against someone of equal size.
Running>weapons>fighting training>being helpless

Anonymous 31817

The strength of strong women scares them.

Anonymous 31818

You can not interview every one of these 3.5 billion, but you CAN look at samples, which basically confirm what she said

Anonymous 31819


Anonymous 31820

You are citing half a dozen examples and we are like 7 billion on this planet, do you know based on that logic I could also cite a few fitfat people running faster than many skinnies and use that flimsy evidence to make my case? All of that is basically anecdotal evidence, not a guarantee. It's really good that you wanna push anons to pursue self-defence classes and martial arts and try to motivate them, but PLEASE do not dupe them into thinking they can take on a larger person even with that baggage of experience behind them. There is a biological difference in muscle composition, tendons and levers in males and females already, moreso with hormones, cultural-induced aggression and general tendency to violence kicking in, moreso with size difference which alone tends to HUGE already. Please do not dupe people into thinking that because they have taken a few classes they are now Trinity from Matrix.

Anonymous 31822

It's also implied in the original post ('start with videos like this one') that it's just ONE of many other videos with such comments.

Anonymous 31824

Wow this post is so original

Anonymous 31825

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa zabenyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Anonymous 31826

mmeant for >>31814

Anonymous 31828

Most posters here are incel men, followed by incel women, then real men and women

Anonymous 31829

>Most posters here are incel men
I doubt it.

The similarity between this thread and threads on male-dominated imageboards shows that loser men and loser women are not that different from each other. Just because you see something in other places first, it doesn't mean seeing it here means this is just some imitation.

Anonymous 31832

They are cute.
Fite me irl about it.

Anonymous 31835

What about "pornsick," "cumbrain," and "troon?"
I heard the first two often, especially from radfems, before coomer became a big thing.

Anonymous 31838

Would you count ED terms (like ana-chan)? I see them used less here, but on lc they're used quite often from migrants from my proana and such communities. As well as /cgl/ memes ig although I'm less familiar with those since I was too ugly to wear J-fashion in its heyday.
Perhaps women are just less likely to make memes for mass communication. Distinctly feminine (and less mainstream) subcultures certainly exist, like feminism, lolita, and doll collecting, yet I can't seem to think of many memes. Just those shitting on trans people and about eating disorders. Coping memes, I guess?

This could probably either read as "women aren't funny" or "women don't need constant humour to feel socially fulfilled."

Anonymous 31840

well im not doing any of that really, i'm just showing that a person with better technique male or female will won a fight against a less technical opponent, tendons, muscle and bones can be overcome (pretty easily) when the person with said advantage doesn't know how to capitalize it

Anonymous 31844

>won a fight against a less technical opponent
As long as the opponent does not have over 20kg or 20cm over you, then you should just make a run for it, call for help or use objects. Because IRL in 99% of cases you are fukk'd. Picture shitty MMA fighter Struve against technically excellent fighter Demetrious Johnson, being far better pound for pound does not help here either
Again, it is a good idea, but should be kept as a last resource for your safety and you should not be overconfident or over-relying on it, for all anons

Anonymous 31849


i get what you're saying and i agree with you,it's not just some casual training that will give you the upper hand against guys, you have to train really hard, probably every day, i agree with you on that but i think we're moving away from the main point a little, my examples goes to show that a woman with training can defeat easely a guy with no training
yes a better technique can overcome help you overcome some handicaps
yes if the guy is way bigger and stronger AND has enough knowdledge of the techniques to know how to capitalise those factors then it's pretty hard to win
but the original discussison>>31714 >>31751 was that a man with no martial arts background can beat a wrestling champion just with pushing her or throwing a punch
my point is that will not happen, if you rigorously train martial arts you'll have the upper hand against most men, because they don't know shit about how to fight, they don't know how to throw a punch, how to avoid a takedown, how to take advantage of their weight and muscular strenght
f you find a huge, heavy,strong and tall guy who was some martial arts background, yeah you're fuck, but most guys are fuck too, everyone except a pro is fucked at that point

Anonymous 31855

If the boys didnt have that strength humanity would die off in its early stages.

If men equalled women in strength they would have extremely harder time protecting their tribes from the wild, hunt animals and build shelters later on.

This strength is used to protect, not to attack your own species. Men who physically abuse women are looked down upon even by other men.

Op is being paranoid

Anonymous 31856

What about women who side with the abuser?

Anonymous 31861

What about women being abusers?

We can keep asking questions irrelevant to the thread

Anonymous 31879

I honestly understand this feel.

I'm a lifelong "big girl" so I always thought that any unarmed person couldn't seriously hurt me due to my weight alone (a small comfort that fatties on here may relate to). However, I ended up hooking up with a skinny (played sports for fun but had sort of a skinny fat pear-shaped body with small man boobs) university student and we were play fighting one day and he pinned me and I actually couldn't get away. I had maybe 20kilos on this kid and he could seriously hurt me if he actually wanted to with zero fight experience on his part.
While I'm not one of those dumb fucks who honestly think this dude as is could beat a trained female fighter at peak physical condition, it is scary as someone who always thought that lardassery could protect me from an average young and healthy man. It's humbling and encouraged me to start lifting.

Anonymous 31881

He had technique over you. Use your weight to your advantage to avoid getting pinned in the first place.

Anonymous 31886

No, he had muscle mass over her, which along with leverage is the deciding factor.

Testosterone lets boys have retain muscle mass at a higher rate then women can, so Even if you set a man and a woman who are the same weight next to one another, the boy will likely have more musculature than the girl.

Anonymous 31887

She said she was a fatty and her bf was a skinny guy, with proper stance and law of physics on her side she should stand a chance. This is just my observation in retrospect, and what I'm trying to say is her loss wasn't due to the fact it was male vs female but instead skill difference.

Anonymous 31954

my brother is nuts and always manhandles me. i'd just be walking getting a snack and he'll smack it out of my hands or snatch it away from me. sometimes he chokes my neck or he shoves me aside for kicks and giggles. other times he'll fake punch me, grasp my arms tightly, or smack me in the head for no reason just because he's bored.

i hate my brother and is dumb brute strength. he knows he is strong and thinks it's awesome but it just fucking annoys me he uses his brute strength on me, someone who doesn't fucking care how strong he is and gets annoyed by it. like bruh, who are you trying to impress? idiot.

Anonymous 31957

>Skip to the comments and tell me what you see.
why not watch the video instead?

Anonymous 31958

i'm not joking my brother treats me like shit. it's to be expected as he is a misogynistic POS. he browses 4chan all day and is brainwashed to think women are inferior species and that hitler did nothing wrong etc. your run of the mill poltard talk

Anonymous 31959

I'm sorry you go through this, anon. My brother not only sexually abused me for years, but he also would slammed a textbook on my head and he violently choked me while moving me around in his anger. It hurts.

Anonymous 31961

what the fuck

Anonymous 31964

You have to punish him.

Anonymous 31978

>He had technique over you
Or, more likely, he was stronger since even at a similar body size males have naturally a lot more muscle mass and strength
If difference was 20kg and the anon above was, say, 95-100kg and her bf was 75-80kg, for a person of that size even with minimal training it would be fairly easy to move around 100kg, even with no combat experience on his part, given higher pound per pound strength

Anonymous 31996


She has explicitly told you it was the strength difference. Why do you keep pushing your interpretation even against her direct statement?

Anonymous 32024

This is why I think it's unfair to condemn a woman who defended herself with a knife against her violent husband. It's a thing in Russia. Raging man charges at a woman trying to beat her to death with his fists, woman defends herself with a knife and stabs him to death, judge claims it's an "excess of self defense" - what excess of self defense?! He was already using a weapon against her, his fists! The knife in her hand only EQUALIZED the field. It was that or death. Men want women to die rather than defend themselves.

Anonymous 32055

Russian self-defence laws are fucked up. So is the court system. Once you're taken to court you're gonna be convicted with like 95% chance.
Nothing to do with gender.
t. Russian

Anonymous 32143

>had to post a bmwf couple

Anonymous 32227



wrestling also gives you a great booty and a fit body, if not for the self defence you can do wrestling for the aesthetics

Anonymous 32231


>literal toothpicks
>great and fit body

Anonymous 32243

ot, but I like your image since it describes my love life and how I act towards men perfectly.
Thank you, it is cathartic to relate to things.

Anonymous 32268


the girl on the left wona male state championship, that means no male in the whole state could beat her

both of them are strong as fuck and can beat almost every male

and their asses are just incredible, big, round and tight

Anonymous 32274

Troll or jealous fatty-chan, not being fat doesn't mean you're a toothpick. Those girls both have developed asses and shapely legs as well as arms, you can't tell if their hips are proportionate or not, but the point is they aren't toothpicks.

Anonymous 32275

>that means no male in the whole state could beat her
Terminatrix t-x, you have the bad habit of omitting weight classes to make your case lol, she fights at like 48 kg category, are there even enough males in the US weighing that little after they hit puberty?

Anonymous 32276

Whoops, meant for >>32268
Excuse me, I'm rarted

Anonymous 32278

u r excused

I'm all for grrl power but misconstruing this stuff by omitting weight classes is just unreasonable and delusional at best. I grew up with 3 brothers, each represents the spectrum of body types and even my tiny smol youngest bro demonstrated a degree of physical strength after he hit puberty that frankly scared me.

Anonymous 32305

Why would a woman need to be as strong as a man?
To do manual labour?
Boxing, judo, wrestling etc are just sports, much like tennis and football.
Pepper sprays, knives and guns are much more efficient for self defense than bare hands.
Just avoid being alone and unarmed around people who might want to harm you. This is a useful advice for both men and women.

Anonymous 32306

Mad that hot thicc wrestler Stacies get to feel up hot stronk wrestler Chads and nibble on their cauliflower ears. :3

Anonymous 32336


those damn stacys

Anonymous 32361

I think the problem comes from the fear that most men could hurt or harm women, and quite easily. The variable that I'm constantly assessing and re-assessing is how much of the population could be moved to violence if they get upset/how easily they could get upset/hoe many people are secret sex offenders murderers, ect.

This place kind of sets my squirrel brain off in regards to paranoia. I try not to think about it, but I honestly think I'm too freaked out to ever pursue anyone who isn't smaller than me.

I do find myself getting freaked out at the thought of not being on equal grounds with men- I was a mess growing up until I got tall. If I didn't have my height to be able to feel at least substantial on that level I don't think I would be able to function very well.

Anonymous 32363


>I'm too freaked out to ever pursue anyone who isn't smaller than me
That's real shit, anon.
On top of small men just being undeniably hot, how anyone could have relations with a person whose hormones make them both aggressive and impulsive ON TOP of them being hulks is beyond me.
It's like people who keep pitbulls as family dogs. Chihuahua instead pls. Breeding men to be smaller when?

Only half joking.

Anonymous 32401



she made a youtube channel after the popularity of that clip

Anonymous 32501

this girl won TWO SCCAL championship!!


fun fact: since girl began wrestling in that tournament in 2016 only one guy could beat a girl in the 2019 championship, every other intergender macth was won by a girl, they all won they respective weight bracket

Anonymous 32503

tournament obey rules and guys are ever easy into women.

Anonymous 32504

Your post reminds me of short men who whine on the internet about how short parents should never reproduce and blame/hate their mothers either for passing on their own short genes or having kids with a short man.
Crazy stuff. I didn't come out particularly attractive but it never crossed my mind to hate my parents for it.

Anonymous 32509

i really thought we were better than /r9k/ but here we are

Anonymous 32550

My post was meant to imply that even if she thought of short guys as cute she probably wouldn't want to reproduce with one.
On that note my mom is really short and my brothers are the only men in the family under 6'.

Anonymous 32552

Original chihuahua anon, and it would be nice to reproduce with a short guy someday if I wasn't terrified of pregnancy (possible complications, ruining my body, being cheated on while pregnant). But that's the pregnancy itself and has nothing to do with my (hypothetical) partner. For what it's worth I do have a lot of sexual fantasies that involve being impregnated by one (it's super romantic, you know) and yet…pregnancy scary.

Perhaps with a surrogate or an artificial womb (exciting tech for tokophobes like me!), but I definitely would have short sons idgaf. Or daughters but that is less looked down on.

Anonymous 32559

I don't understand people like you. Pregnancy is a wonderful thing. Sure it's a bit scary, but if you've ever used argumentum ad naturam and don't want to have kids you're a hypocrite because that's what we're made for.
And having adorable kids with a shorter-than-me subby guy would be cute as hell.

Anonymous 32635

Manlets are disgusting, in all honesty.

Anonymous 32642

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Their fixation on their height and inferiority about it is pretty funny tbh

Anonymous 32683

Their inferiority complex makes me want to toss a manlet under 5'3"/160 cm on my bed.

Anonymous 32691


i want to wrestle them just to keep with the theme of this thread

Anonymous 32693

I feel like I am now on some sort of list.

Anonymous 32696



This anon gets it.
Actually saw a guy today who must have been 5 ft nothing/152 cm and it was really hot. Kind of chubby, too…a juicy boy.

Anonymous 32703

Anonymous 32754


Anonymous 32755

>160 cm
Wtf I love Domics now

Anonymous 32772

This is more of a point against jiu jitsu than for it, both were standing so exposed when trying to cling onto each other than in an actual fight an adversary could have punched their face a dozen times. I can't help but think a lot of these martial arts are only practical as long as they are practiced in their specific environment, if somebody really assaults you he is not gonna wait for you to find the right grip

Anonymous 32783

That's what Bruce Lee said too, it was one of his main gripes with eastern martial arts. That being said, BJJ is extremely effective and deadly in MMA where you're allowed to strike.

Anonymous 32801

bot of them were exposed because that was clearly a grappling match, you don't have to change your technique much tho
closing the distance and going for the clinch already protects you against 90% of punches, the only moment when you're exposed is the couple of seconds you need to get there, but you can just put your fist in front of your head and protect yoruself against a knock out punch, is not that hard, doing bjj or wrestling gives you teh agility and techinique to close teh distance fast and safe against pretty much everybody

Anonymous 32874

>that was clearly a grappling match
and if in the real world somebody assaults you they're not gonna have a fair grappling match following the rules
>protects you against 90% of punches
Ehhrm no, have you not seen the video? Both were very exposed and left a root of room for the other to land a punch/elbow/knee etc. Close distance fighting works especially if you are shorter than the other person because you negate their reach advantage in stand-up but it still leaves a lot of room to land blows.
>protect the head
May leave ribs, throat and other areas exposed and may not even be enough if the other person is significantly stronger and can badly hurt you with a punch anywhere it lands (which includes wrist, elbow, forearm, neck, joint generally etc.)
From all things I gathered if you are assaulted by somebody larger and stronger, even if trained, your best option is to run away, second best is to use spray/keys/blunt objects etc. and actually fighting barehanded is the least safe option.

Anonymous 36635


Anonymous 36650

MMA has a lot of specific rules about things you’re not allowed to do like ball grabbing, which other martial arts don’t have. It’s completely as amazing as everyone makes out. Also looks horrible.

Martial arts are called arts for a reason. It’s about form and looking good, not so much best fighting technique. You will learn good blocks, quick reactions and how to escape but you need to know when to surrender. If someone points a gun at you then you need to put your hands up, not try to kick it away like in the movies. Most martial arts aren’t made for modern weapons.

The majority of martial arts taught these days have been altered into modern forms (karate, jiu jitsu, wushu, kung fu) or were completed made up recently, some from previous arts (Brazilian jiu jitsu, akido, judo, capoeira, MMA, krav maga). The latter ones are more effective but don’t look as good.

Anonymous 36661

what about getting a unlicensed gun? how many times in your life do you think the police will just randomly search through your purse? and if you don't plan on having a gun hobby anyway, you don't have any legal permits to lose, you'll probably just get a fine and have it confiscated if you somehow get caught, which will probably only happen if someone actually assaults you and you have to use it

Anonymous 36688

>It’s completely as amazing as everyone makes out.
That should read not as a amazing. MMA is overrated.

Anonymous 36727

paige wrestling.jp…

Anonymous 36734

What does this contribute to the thread? We already had the "women can win at grappling sports" discussion. You didn't even write anything. What was the point?

Anonymous 36810

Started wrestling last year, can confirm best thing ever

Anonymous 36825

how are the boys

Anonymous 36827

Anonymous 36832

I think its extremely important to understand that you always avoid physical confrontation ESPECIALLY with men, because they are a lot stronger and in an actual fight will win easily 99.9% of the time, even if they guy doesn't seem that big

certain contact sports with set rules like wrestling and such are different altogether though, where it is completely ok to 'fight' against a guy

I just really don't want some anons bering over-confident and thinking that they can put themselves at risk because they took a few (basically useless) defense classes, please don't.

thread I saw a while ago on a simiar discussion

Anonymous 36836

Does anyone else feel disturbed and upset when you see other women going on about rape/choking fetishes? You know, the "Choke me daddy uwu" bs? Like they're so dumb and naive and they're probably going to end up getting hurt. It's sad.

Anonymous 36840

The very best route to take is to avoid men or at least being alone with men in your life as much as possible.
The foolproof way to prevent the easily life-threatening domestic abuse that comes from men is to not date them. Sure, a woman can kill you, but a man could do it unintentionally with ease.

Anonymous 37108

>a man could do it unintentionally with ease
That's going a little far. It takes quite a bit of force to seriously harm someone and risk death.
Men are stronger and are capable of such force, but it's not like they go around throwing haymakers in attempts to swat flies and risk instantly breaking your neck with a missed strike or something.

Anonymous 37109


Anonymous 37110

Nobody chose what makes their boat go, it is no one fault but theirs.

Anonymous 37113

i just think they're coping tbh, like he can't hurt me if i WANT to be hurt gotcha.

Anonymous 37122


Anonymous 37690

I'm just shaking my head at the notion that wrestling and bjj should be useful out on the streets. Both have a very strict set of rules on what is allowed and both are a 1v1 affair. In the real world more often than not the aggressor will be armed and/or be numerically superior. Willingly getting on the ground and attempt to wrestle in that case is suicide. Overall, being on the ground in a streetfight is really really bad since it's harder to defend yourself and you can't run if things are getting out of hand. It's anectdotal evidence but I once witness a fight outside a club where two guys where wrestling on the ground outside. After a while a friend to one if them just casually strolled over and kicked the other in the head as he was laying there on the ground. It ended the fight right then and there and there was nothing the victim could have done to defend himself from that position.

Anonymous 38009

It's just repression issues.

Anonymous 38021

wtf people can't choose what turns them on

Anonymous 38197

Lmao nice copypasta.

Anonymous 38201

Trust your instincts, you are not wrong. It's highly illogical to be that intimate with someone who could easily kill you with their bare hands. And no, knowing self-defense will not completely offset size/physical strength. Unless you want to constantly walk around with 2~3 female friends to overwhelm the dude if he tries to get violent - assuming they will be able to shrug off their freeze instinct -, it is indeed dangerous to date a dude.

Anonymous 38202

Smart move keeping them out of the dating pool through mind games. Stacy strut!

Anonymous 38286

BJJ is only good insofar as knowing how to avoid someone trying to grapple with you. Running is easily the most effective thing and a girl who practices sprinting can very realistically outrun the average moid.

Anonymous 38301


>Running is easily…
Let me stop you right thar

Anonymous 38302

Not sure not being able to outrun bullets is a good reason to simply not run.

Anonymous 38308


Anonymous 38310

but a trained woman can beat a guy in wrestling


Anonymous 38314

Anon…I’m implying carrying a gun is better self-defense. Besides, the average woman cannot outrun the average man.

Anonymous 38315

It's really not, guns that can actually kill people are heavy and recoil hurts and is startling

It's better than nothing but unless you get the drop on a guy there is a good chance he will be on top of you before you can fire

Anonymous 38316

Non-burgers can't relate.

Anonymous 38319

wrestling is a sport with rules, not an actual fight, if a man decides to fuck you up he will do so with complete ease, please don't think you could be in a REAL fight because you know a bit of wrestling, It is very dangerous to have a false self confidence in this regard.

Anonymous 38320

Handguns aren’t heavy and they’re what you would use with a conceal carry permit. Also no one said anything about killing someone, it’s possible to protect yourself without being completely immoral you know. And this defeatist attitude of
>waaa guns can’t help you every time
Doesn’t erase all the times it does help women ward off predators. If I am being followed, I’d rather have a greater assurance than my running ability.

Anonymous 38321


>It's better than nothing but unless you get the drop on a guy there is a good chance he will be on top of you before you can fire
Let's test that theory.

Anonymous 38323

Burgers can't relate.

Anonymous 38415


Stop being fucking obsessed with rape and go enroll yourself on some martial art classes and/or avoid men as much as you can, just don't let them intimidate and oppress you bc of their physical strength. You should be more worried about other kinds of threats

Anonymous 38488

>martial art classes
biggest and most dangerous meme around

Anonymous 38499

this post still makes me cackle

Anonymous 38749

Non-lethal handguns exist and are pretty popular among women in Russia.

Anonymous 38798

>Non-lethal handguns
That fire what? Rubber bullets?
If someone is a threat to you, killing them is objectively your safest course of action. It's why cops reach for their gun before their taser.
You don't need to be firing .357 rounds to kill someone. They'll do more damage, sure, but even .22 bullets are still supersonic hunks of metal. A small gun can still put someone on their ass and certainly scare them into not moving even if not physically prevent them from doing so.

Anonymous 39476

It's natural selection that made them that much stronger than women. Women selected bigger, taller and stronger men to breed with and over time men evolved to be that way in comparison to women.

Anonymous 39484

Oh no… we ultimately worked against ourselves…

Anonymous 39505

So are you implying that you should start doing the reverse? Just bonking the smallest and frailest man you can and dragging him to your cave?

Anonymous 39506

… yeah. Yeah, totally.
We need them tamed small and frail men. We will dominate.

Anonymous 39508

That would be rather hard, since you would need their testosterone levels high enough to reproduce.
Though the effects of chemicals found in birth control being released into the water supply via urine have worked to this end somewhat.
Though would you only be picking out men that are already submissive and weak?
I think it would be rather hard to turn a regular man into that unless you made him morbidly obese or something.
Then again, strength is relative so you could just get absolutely shredded and have any daughters do the same.

Anonymous 39518

>strength is relative
No. Not really. The entire thread can attest against that. Small is enough.

Anonymous 39520

To put it simply, the reasoning behind my logic is that what seems like a rather large amount of weight to some person is not the same thing as what seems like a large amount of weight to another.
This can apply to most things really, like how a millionare may seem small time from the eyes of a billionare, but will be looked up towards from a middle class individual.
So a better wording is that what is percieved as 'strong' is relative.
Though I still think that the best course of action is to make yourself stronger while making the others weaker in order to achieve your goal.
Though would you make any attempt to make your mating ragdoll happy or is he just along for the ride, forever out of the way?

Anonymous 39523

You don't really need to workout. It's already easier to toss them around when they're already small.

I wouldn't want to leave them unloved. I'm not going to baby anyone, but I'd like to treat them well. Make them feel loved. What about you?

Anonymous 39525

I'm fine with men, I don't meddle in their world and they don't meddle in mine.
I've always been that way.
I like being alone. So I don't think anybody could find much love around me so to speak.
Though I do like occasionally peeking through the window.
Checking on the world outside.
Either way I only asked because I was curious.
Though I think it would be rather disturbing to have a race of eternal children running around.
It would be better to have them be lightweight twinks and just get a decent amount of muscle instead.

Anonymous 39527



Anonymous 39532

Eternal children? No. God no. That'd be just creepy. I had proportionately average to small men more in mind. Probably not twinks though. Something where they're more masculine but if they got upset you could just pick them up.

Anonymous 39535

So you just want a bunch of overly masculine manlets running around?
That would be rather disturbing in its own right to be frank.
I'm thinking rathet short twinks would be the best option, making men as strong as a somewhat pampered teenage noble.
Though i imagine that you would wanf to make the females stronger as well,to make the gap uncontestable

Anonymous 39537

Overly masculine? No. Just average. A little cute, a little tough. I don't wanna have to roid up to be able to manhandle them.

Anonymous 39539

Well to have them weak enough to manhandle and drag back to your cave, you can either decrease testosterone or make them lose weight by force.
Though some would say it's cruel, i honestly have no problems eating the way i do.
I had about one and one halfs cup of mixed seeds today, and i feel fine most of the time. I'm trying to get around to 96 pounds myself(since with water weight and the added weight of food it makes a round 100).
Though if you decrease testosterone, they likely won't be as masculine as you would like.
There is a large chance they might become infertile if levels drop too low.
And their dicks might be smaller.
Maybe it would work if you could keep the testosterone entirely in the crotch area,though i don,t know how many generations that would take.

Anonymous 39546

Or just be taller. Unless they actually work out, it won't be difficult.

Anonymous 39551

You'd be suprised with how strong the average male csn be even withoug working out.
Even should they be short.
If you want shuch change to occur to what ends i still don't know, you would have to have it work both ways.
You couldn't just have the men be weaker, you would need the women to be stronger as well.

Anonymous 39566

Yeah the stats are something like 99% of men have more upper body strength than the bottom 50% of women, it's safe to assume that if you don't do any kind of weight training every man you meet is probably stronger than you

Anonymous 39570

So then wouldn't you just want to start weight training while simultaneously dragging only the weakest of men to your cave?
Though I don't know if it would be a good idea to kidnap people.
Maybe just kabedon them into a corner?
Forcefully dragging them into bed and smothering them?
From what I hear, there's men who like that sort of thing.
Though they would never admit it in public.

Anonymous 39571

Look, if it concerns you that much, just date men with disabilities or diseases like muscular dystrophy. They probably won't be that popular with other women anyways, so it'll be easier for you with less competition.

Anonymous 39574

Thing is, those diseases might spread to the girls.
I imagine that you would want their weakness to be limited to men, otherwise you would just be crippling the species as a whole.
Though I really don't see the appeal myself.
I just find the thought interesting.

Anonymous 39576

Just snip off male infant limbs with bolt cutters, like an "appendage circumcision". Or take drugs similar to thalidomide when you are pregnant with a boy.

Anonymous 39579

>cutting off male infant limbs
I thought you just wanted to make them somewhat weaker than women?
Isn't making them permanent cripples a bit of a far cry from just making them weaker than the average woman?
Cutting off the limbs of half the population seems a bit more disturbing than rendering them permanent children.
And the drugs might be a bad idea, since they generally stop mental as well as physical development.

Anonymous 39580

I should specify that I am NTA, and I was just being satirical. The whole idea of breeding negative traits into a population intentionally is a bit disturbing. Why wouldn't you just breed for altruism, loyalty, and submissiveness instead?

Anonymous 39584

Well you can't exactly breed for altruism, and I imagine that breeding those other two traits would come naturally.
Though this is only a thought experiment.
How to go about creating a world with reversed gender roles?
What would such a world look like?
How would it be to live either as a male or a female in such a world?
I imagine that you would have to have at least tolerable living standards for males.

Anonymous 39586

>Well you can't exactly breed for altruism, and I imagine that breeding those other two traits would come naturally.
Why not? We do that to dogs already.
>rest of the post
We had this thread on /b/ before. It was a really boring thread, but if you want to talk about that, go start a new thread as opposed to derailing this one much further.

Anonymous 39587

>we had a thread on /b/ before
Which one? y'know we're able to discuss topics more than once.

Anonymous 39599

If you're not willing to train to the level of a professional power lifter to dom men you don't deserve it

Anonymous 39601

why not make yourself stronger while making the men weaker at the same time?
It's fine and good to become strong, but if you want this gap in strength to mean anything you would need to make the other party weaker.

Anonymous 39602

There's more satisfaction in overpowering a healthy guy vs intentionally malnourishing them so they grow weaker or something. Now getting to the level where you're lifting more than the average man is a shit ton of work but it's perfectly doable, the average male bench is like 150lbs irc

Anonymous 39605

This is why we women need to understand the art of poisons and medicine. So we can poison men who threaten us and abort their vile seed from our wombs if we so need to.

Rather not carry Atilla the shit’s baby.

Anonymous 39606

Just killing them seems rather pointless.
Why not simply change them to suit your needs?

Anonymous 39610

You would still need to catch them y'know.
So if you're going for bulk while all the men are going for speed you might have a hard time dragging them to your cave.
You would more or less be limited to buildings with narrow walkways and plenty of deadends.

Anonymous 39614

I assume that successful abductions would be more about isolating a man that trusts you rather than sprinting down open streets after men

Anonymous 39616

I think it would be rather hard to get men to trust you enough to get close to you if we're talking about a society where they can get abducted without any push back period.
So it would mostly be a psychological thing to lure them in then. But you would still need to prevent their escape should they not immediately accept being yours, now wouldn't you?
You could just lock them up, but that would probably just make them resent you more.

Anonymous 39620

Just treat them until they laze around you. Like taking in a stray cat.

Anonymous 39621

Wouldn't that involve getting them inside your house first?
I imagine they might scurry away should they see you approaching

Anonymous 39622

Have you never baited a cat before? They'll run away too, if you coldly approach them, but it's all about body language. You take a barbaric approach to this scenario, probably because that kicks your rocks, but you can hunt in more ways than just chasing them until they're tired.

Anonymous 39623

I imagine that the men though weak would still be smarter than a housecat.
At least smart enough to not get within grabbing range.
Unless you're planning on stunting brain development too, you would still likely have to corner them to a certain extent.
This doesn't do much for me sexually, I'm just interested in the logistics.
Not a moid or anything like that.

Anonymous 39627

It’s less about killing them and more about having a back up against them.

“If you try anything against me…I got something against you.”


Concerning changing a man, I have found more success in choosing men. If they want to mate they can just change themselves to suit my tastes and needs as a woman. Otherwise I will find a man I like and propagate him and his ilk. This gives me control over the species future and insures I can find the best of the best stalk to grow. No use in changing a man, I need to find one who can change themselves.

Anonymous 39631

you still need a way to actually get the poison inside of them.
Doesn't really work that well if they're charging at you.
But if they're half your weight and height, poison won't even be necessary.

Anonymous 39638

Baiting is always easy. There's always going to be ones that will take it. You just have to select for them. You gain their trust, and then you let them in.

Anonymous 39640

What about the niche men with rather niche interests.
I imagine that video games and comfort might work with most, but will they work on the worthwhile.
What of those who like piano or something odd like marble run construction?
Unless the bait is supposed to take on some form that i'm unaware of.

Anonymous 39642

If we're still going with this wild scenario, I was thinking of something like offering them shelter during the rain, or food for when they're starving, water when they're dehydrated, but in a more civilised case it would be better to just conversate with them. Ask them if they like x or y. Flirt.

Anonymous 39644

>but in a more civilised case it would be better to just conversate with them. Ask them if they like x or y. Flirt.
Precisely this, and then you get your friend to throw the net over them from the balcony as they're distracted.

Anonymous 39652

>throw a net over them while they're distracted
Rude and mean, i don't think they would like that.
I know i wouldn't like that.

Anonymous 39654


I'd be interested if there's any actual data on the ability of a man vs woman to overall overpower each other given different heights, weights, level of activity, etc.
As opposed to just data on lifting capacity and grip strength and such.

Anonymous 39661

We'll what were talking about here is reversing evolution through selectively picking the smallest and frailest men to drag back to their caves, the end result would be men becoming the weaker gender.

Anonymous 39666


Anonymous 39667

Bad pop science reporting that no one should care about, you can meme about corona killing moids if that's what's fun to you but otherwise there isn't much to say

Anonymous 39668

I think the only thing you'd need is info on how much of a gap in strength is necessary to dominate someone and then it's all statistics

Anonymous 39670

Being tall as a man means women automatically like you more.
Women liking you more is an incentive to go out more often so you can get attention from women.
Going out during the pandemic means you're more likely to catch coorona.

Anonymous 39674

So is this natural selection working towards making men smol?

Anonymous 39675

No, and then you seduce them, and they never want to leave you. You're not hunting for a meal but a pet.

Anonymous 39682

I don't see how just seducing them would make them never leave you.
You would have to make them dependent on you to a large extent.

Anonymous 39687

No because all the sex tall men get for being tall will still massively outweigh the number of tall men dying of Corona.

Anonymous 39692

The seduction is a requirement. You have to sweeten the deal with them. Being a provider is a good measure for attracting them, but you have to make sure you aren't just some kind of platonic pursebag for them. You need to make it known that this is serious and not a transaction, or else they'll get confident.

Anonymous 39716

Seduction is just appealing to him sexually.
Most guys, (that are actually worth anything), generally want more than just sex or being provided for.
They want support. So then how would you go about making them depend entirely on you, (and only you), for said support.
You could just not let anybody else know he exists, though that might not have the best effect on his health in the long term.
As for getting him to open up emotionally, it would be best for intimacy to be established.
You could lock him in your bedroom with the heat turned low enough that he would be affected but you wouldn't, and force him to get in bed with you if he wants warmth.
Though you would need to console him so he doesn't end up resenting you.

Anonymous 39723

It wouldn't be an unfeeling relationship. Of course you have to care for them. You just need to be assertive that they're yours, and touch is one of the best ways to own them.

Anonymous 39725

Aneta destroys a chinese guy's arm and then some pans

Anonymous 39763

Those must be some garbage pans to bend like that, regardless of strength.
I don't think my cookware would fold like that even in an actual vise.

Anonymous 39767

thread full of dum…

Well what would happen if they were significantly weaker?
Even more so than women are to men.
As if instead of having a foot in height difference it is now commonplace for men to be half the height of women.
What would change?
Would women just start abducting a husband as if he was a stray cat?
Though I don't think the people complaining about women being on easy mode are the same people wanting a world like that.
Probably more so people like pic related.

Anonymous 39773

We'll they're mostly just complaining and being bitter for the sake of being bitter. Other times they just see the world as unfair.
They would likely want girls to flock to them, but probably wouldn't be okay with being submissive.
They would still want the girls to be smaller than them.
Though it would generally be a bad idea to just submit to the first woman you find.
Running and hiding a cramped space they can't get to would be the best option for dealing with most women that men run into.

Anonymous 39774

Nah, femdom is more popular among guys with low self esteem/self worth. You underestimate how shameless these guys are.

Anonymous 39778

Well i got the screenshot from 4chan, and people are generally open to each other since they have anonymity.
Though I don't see how thinking that women have it easier ties to low self worth.
A lot of these people are rather narcissistic, otherwise they would just work on themselves(presuming that they are not beyond the point of no return).
And narcissism doesn't really tie in with low self-esteem, which a lot of these people rightfully have.
So really you can just divide men into those two groups.
Though I'm sure the narcissists, and likely all the other non-submissives, would die out if women became that much stronger than men.

Anonymous 39785

Yeah. The same guys that talk about hating women and wanting to beat them.

Anonymous 39786

Why do you think that is?
Is there really anything to be done about it?

Anonymous 39791

I don't see why a moid with that fetish would post here of all places.
Nobody here actually likes submissive and small men after all.

Anonymous 39795

Because they're different. The ones that want to abuse women are either normally sized or actually manlets, but seethe about their height regardless due to moid hivemind, while the ones into femdom are into the creepy mommy stuff, with some of them actually wishing they were smaller alongside getting their "tall gf".

It's best to ignore both of them. People who speak about their fetish first before themselves are never worth anyone's time.

Anonymous 39796

I"ll agree with you that generally people who their fetish first aren't really worth talking to.
But i don't really see what qualifies as mommy stuff.
Having a woman spoon feed you and calling her mommy obviously fits within that label.
But what about her being the big spoon?
Or her doing something dumb like stroking the guys hair while cuddling?
What about her forcibly pinning him?
Where exactly is the line between wanting someone to be dominant and to be a mother to them?

Anonymous 39801

It doesn't matter. It just matters if you're thinking about this stuff so often that it bleeds into regular conversation.

Anonymous 39805

I'm just asking a question.
The question mainly being about if it was men who were afraid of how strong women were, what would such a world look like?
Would it just be our world with reversed genders?
Or would women just be able to abduct men off the streets for husbands?
I just like asking questions really.
I try not to force my own input on the world around me irl.
I prefer to stay quiet and watch from afar.
But here i can ask questions.
Here i am formless.

Anonymous 39806

>Or would women just be able to abduct men off the streets for husbands?
I don't see why, assuming the strength gap is equal to what it is now.
It's not like men currently just club women and drag them back to their houses to end up with wives.

Anonymous 39807

Actually some do, in Kyrgyzstan it's common

Anonymous 39809

Then the Kyrgyzstani will, probably.

It sounds to me like you want a change to society as a whole rather than biology, unless you want to start rewiring the human mind.

Anonymous 39810

It's a question of how would society change as a result of a drastic change in biology.
And what about different levels of change?
How small would men have to become to make it morally acceptable to abduct them?

Anonymous 39811

I'm not that anon, just saying. Some vietnamese girls also get kidnapped and traficked to be a bride, it happens a lot in poorer asian countries.

I don't think if women were stronger this would be the case, maybe if we had the same levels of testosterone it might be? But women as a whole in various cultures don't seem to be as violent.

Anonymous 39812

You already got your answer. It wouldn't. You'd have to make people act differently in order to get the world you'd want.

Anonymous 39815

Men grew to be more violent because their position as "the strong ones" meant that they were usually the ones who had to fight and kill to defend a group from the men of another group, and they're also the ones who have to fight within a group for the attention of women.
The question then becomes whether, given everything else remains the same and given modern society as a starting point, things would end up differently if all women were suddenly stronger without having to also go through thousands of years of survival, hunting, and tribal warfare.

Anonymous 39816

>How small would men have to become to make it morally acceptable to abduct them?
Well, babies are pretty small and it's still not morally acceptable to abduct them.

Anonymous 39819

Well babies are just considered to be small people, and are treated as such.
So a better question would be at what size would men no longer be considered complete people?
They would still be kept around due to reproduction, but would be treated as somewhat intellegent pets (since i imagine that regular communication would be handicapped at some point or another) like cats or birds.

Anonymous 39825


An estimate of ~1.1% of female university student volunteers (average age of 20, recruited from a psychology department) and 4.2% of women in the national population (average age 33, recruited from Mechanical Turk) self-report as having successfully raped men in the United States.
Successful rape was the second most common "worst offense" reported by sexually violent women in both the university and MTurk sample, next to what the study decided to label as "frotteurism" to describe sexual assaults without penetration. "Attempted" and "completed" coercion were surprisingly rare as worst offenses. 27% of the sexually violent university students and 24% of the violent MTurk respondents seem to have claimed to use physical force to have sex with the male. More than half of the sexually violent women reported only engaging in 1 act of sexual violence in life, but the second most common reported number was not 2 acts, it was the self-reportable maximum of more than 6 acts.
It does not seem that female-on-male rape is too strongly correlated with the woman's identification with sexual dominance, which has a correlation of 0.03 in the college sample, though a much heavier 0.17 in the national sample.
This study relied on self-reporting, but I cannot see women trying to take credit for raping men without reason, especially since the study attempted to account for psychoticism and found a correlation of 0.08, significant but not sufficient.
The strongest correlate of a successful female-on-male rape was simply previous acts of sexual violence.

It would become morally acceptable to abduct men when it became apparent to an overwhelming majority of women that it was physically possible to abduct them without taking injury.

Anonymous 39829

If you get smaller than babies, you've passed "bigger than them" and entered outright giantess territory. Like women carrying men around inside their purses and such.

Anonymous 39850

Babies are more than small enough.

Look, if you really want the right size, it's literally teen-sized, ie when the body hasn't fully matured. Height matters to strength than people like to think.

Anonymous 39867

I don't see it really being easy enough for the average women to abduct somebody the size of a teenager for it to become commonplace.
It might happen if the women become bigger, maybe gaining a few feet in height, with some muscle to support the body with.
Really I think that they would have to be small enough to fit inside of a carrying case, like a dufflebag or a gym bag.
Doesn't have to be as small as a purse, but still not large enough to draw attention.

Anonymous 39868

You don't need a lot of muscle when you're tall. It's all about pushing your weight around at that point. At a few heads smaller they could fit in a sack and be malleable, to boot.

Anonymous 39869

Teenage guys aren't that much smaller than the average woman though. The average 13 year old boy is 5'2", the average woman is 5'4"

Anonymous 39870

>when you're tall

Anonymous 39871

Yeah if you're 6ft, you will still only be 8in taller. That's about 1 head taller. All else equal, you would have trouble overpowering him.

Anonymous 39873

I was thinking more of a total height swap.

Anonymous 39874

Either way, height doesn't mean anything without muscle. The average 5'2" guy will easily beat a 6' woman or at least be evenly matched

Anonymous 39876

So they'd have to either be a fraction of the average height of women, even should women increase in size.
Though maybe them just having lower amounts of muscle could also work.
This could also be coupled with women becoming more muscular as a result of their new role.
Though i think being able to stuff them in a gym bag or duffle bag is a decent standard for women being able to incapacitate them without much of a fight.

Anonymous 39877

Like I said there's more to strength than having big bulging muscles. If you've got a foot on him, heightwise you can pick him up and swing him around like in that one gif I'm looking for but just can't find right now.

Anonymous 39878

You got a lot of height on a chimp too. I would really recommend you don't try to pick one up.

Anonymous 39879


>Though i think being able to stuff them in a gym bag or duffle bag is a decent standard for women being able to incapacitate them without much of a fight.
Reminds me of this comedy gold

Anonymous 39880

Don't pick up a chimp then. Maybe try picking up, I don't know a little man? I found it by the way.

Anonymous 39882

Since men would be more or less property, with courtship more or less consisting of running them down and stuffing them in your gym bag, how would ownership work?
Would claimed men be required to wear a collar of somesort?
Though moids might start wearing fake ones in order to avoid being abducted, so there would have to be a workaround.

Anonymous 39888

Alright, in any case, for your safety I really hope you never overestimate yourself and get in a fight with a guy who is a foot shorter than you. The guy in that video could easily hurt her, they are just being playful.

Anonymous 39889

It's always unwise to get into fights, regardless of who you are or who you're up against.
You could get in a fight with a woman a foot shorter than you and she could pull a gun or a knife or something out of her purse. You just never know for sure how something like that is going to go.

Anonymous 39890

True. A woman with a knife or gun is almost always going to be more dangerous than a man unarmed. Which is why I feel like the topic of this thread is a little pointless. The reason men are more dangerous is mostly because more of them are naturally violent, criminal, or have bad tempers. If a woman really wanted to kill random people, she could do it too.

Anonymous 39892

But that's just it. They're not fighting. Seriously I don't get what's up with the man-bagging and collars. Humans get along just fine even when they're freaks.

Anonymous 39910

It's not really about them not getting along, it's about a world where stuffing them in a bag and slapping a collar on them is what getting along looks like.
Where it's so commonplace, that there need not an ounce of malicion.
Though i'm still unsure about how that collar thing would work.

Anonymous 39917

I assume tagging, like housepets? You could always tag their ear, tattoo, brand, or just bite them deep enough to leave a mark.
God I wish that were me.

Anonymous 39927

It would have to be some way of showing ownership that couldn't be forged by moids to evade marriage.
Though I don't think that tags would work since you should be able to verify it without the need for anything but your eyes.
Otherwise you would have to lock your man in your closet or something to prevent somebody else from taking him. Biting him wouldn't really show ownership to anybody unfamiliar with you, and could probably be faked to avoid being bagged.
A tattoo might work, though it would have to be prominent and therfore wouldn't be preferable since it would have to be on his face.
And branding has the same problem, though being slightly more cruel.
It would be rather inaccessible at that, since I doubt everybody could afford to have a custom branding iron made.
Not very much a fan of polygamy, though I know that it would be inevitable to some extent in this scenario.

Anonymous 39930

>literal giga-stacy abducts all the men
>still lonely

Anonymous 39932

>tfw you and all your friends have to share the same leftover obese balding manlet

Anonymous 39933

but his ugly billionaire heiress gf Jizzlaine was the one who did all the grooming work while he just sat around on a massage table

Anonymous 39934

>wall in the moid dungeon breaks, causing Gigastacy's harem to escape into the city streets
>open season is declared as a new influx of men flood the cities spreading across whatever hiding places there are
>crawl spaces near restaurants becoming prime real estate for hiding moids
>other moids have to make due with hiding in the bushes and alleyways like everybody else.

Anonymous 39935

The sad reality of this scenario for many of us.
How do you know they'll flee?

Anonymous 39936

I don't think they would have enough direct attention to really feel loved by giga-stacy, with most of them getting maybe a kiss once every few months.
The newer ones might not have even seen giga-stacy in their lives.
So most of them wouldn't really have any attachment to her.
In other words, invest in gymbag manufacturers.

Anonymous 39937

Or a van.

Anonymous 39938

Vans can't really fit in moid hiding spots like under buildings or crawlspaces.
You only need one anyway, so a gym bag should more than suffice for your needs.

Anonymous 39939

>year is 2131
>CoVid-42 reduced average human male to the size of raccoons
>approximately 20% of men are raised as wards of the state's foster care system
>to avoid total dependence men are considered legally adult at 12 and expected to find unskilled labor suitable for their education and physical aptitude
>heterosexual women with solid careers tend to find husbands through arrangements with the men's employers and associations of interest
>the very wealthy and high class form arrangements through family attachments
>the lower classes have to fend for themselves
>poors can try to raise their own male children to husband to wealthier families but it rarely works out
>men are surly, hard to discipline, and require constant, firm authority to properly domesticate which most working households can't provide
>around 10% of the total adult male population is homeless and subsists off of the excess and refuse of civilization
>being the size of raccoons, they have taken on the raccoon's ecological role as well
>a noise comes from around Anon's backyard, near the garbage cans
>she thinks her Neocraft 40050 Humane Boyfriend Trap must have been sprung
>it did
>but it caught a raccoon
>better luck next time–
>raccoon makes lonely noises
>looks like he might be injured
>Anon thinks "I'll just take him to the vet tomorrow. After that I'll be back to trying to domesticate a feral boy like in those cute internet videos."
>for some reason this raccoon seems better behaved than most of those feral boys.
>this raccoon isn't scared or aggressive, just too tired, sad and hurt
>like her

>the vet says the raccoon was microchipped, and had all his vaccinations

>he used to belong to someone
>vet says she'll make some calls and take him off of Anon's hands

>"The owners refused to return our calls. They probably had to get rid of him because she got a husband he didn't get along with, and dumped him instead of making responsible arrangements. If you're able to get through to the owner while he's in our custody, and want to do so you might be able to take him in; he's trained, domesticated, vaccinated, he's even housebroken. Otherwise we can put him in a shelter."

>Anon reads up on how to domesticate raccoons
>it's all exactly the same as her tactics for bagging a man
>"…Well, I guess a little practice couldn't hurt."
And that's how Anon began living with Bandit Keith.

Anonymous 39942

What the absolute fuck has this thread devolved into
God bless CC. I love you autistic bitches.

Anonymous 39943

You grab them with the bag? I thought you'd put them in there only after you've caught them? I was kind of implying you could roll up in a van marked "free rap cds", but OK.

Anonymous 39944

Well of course you would have to catch them first.
The bag is to keep them in.
It would just be rather unnecessary to buy a whole van to bag a single moid.
Unless you're one of those dirty polygamists who collect as many as possible only to neglect them.

Anonymous 39945

>a single moid
You know that's not enough for some people.

Anonymous 39951

i'm crying how did we get to raccoon men holy shit

Anonymous 39952

I'd imagine that .ore than one would probably have to neglected since you would have to give them thier own living space.
With one you can force him to be wherever you are and just sling him over your should when you go to sleep.
Woth mutiple they might start to fight and would need separate spaces.
Besides, you wouldn't be able to do cute shit like exclusively feeding them off of whatever is on your plate. Or shoving your moid in your hamper when you get upsut with him.
And they would probably escape because you would have to divide your attention.

Anonymous 39979

Where would moids even hide?
I imagine bushes and gutters might work, but they have to come out for food.
And crawlspaces are only in old buildings as a result of prohibition.
Maybe underneath a house could work?
You just need a way to dig underneath along with an entrypoint to go in and out of the house from.
Though the moid would still be relying on whatever was left out since he wouldn't have the upper body strength to open any fridges.
Sewers have a tendency to flood, so they wouldn't work.
I could imagine moids hiding up above the ceiling panels of certain buildings.
Honestly imagine ceiling moids becoming a legitimate problem as a result of them constantly falling and breaking things.
Though I imagine the best hiding places would be ones to small for women to reach without physically breaking apart.

Anonymous 39984

I think those areas might be too obvious for moids who actually intend on hiding so they can focus on whatever autistic hobbies they manage to have at that size.
If an area was too popular, women would catch on pretty quickly leaving to only a few moids remaining.
And they would still need some protection from the cold and diseases.
Best solution for them would honestly just to sit on a park bench until they get shoved in a bag by some passing runner, but I imagine that most would be too stubborn for that.

Anonymous 39986

If you want a bf so bad just stop being ugly lolz

Anonymous 39989

>taking care of yourself for the sake of being atractive to moids
>not taking care of yourself regardless of them
>she doesn't know that making yourself attractive as you can works a long way to reduce the resistance of your new husband
Besides, it's not like fatties are even fast enough to catch their own moids.
Always using some sort of trap that never manages to catch a moid with more than half a brain.
Worthwhile moids are either chased down or lured over a period of gaining said moid's trust.
Now that i think of it, areas near gyms would more or less become noa moids land considering all the runners with some form a gymbag.
And i don't think thry would take well to being stuffed in a gym bag that's actually been used for the gym.a

Anonymous 39992

Going to the gym won't cure your autism though

Anonymous 39993

To a farm.

Anonymous 39997

What would they even live in? A little shoebox? Or would that be their bed?

Anonymous 40002

You get old too dummy. It's not like their aging is accelerated.
They're supposed to live wherever the hell you live.
They're supposed to sleep in your arms.
If you're paranoid about somebody taking your moid or your moid escaping when your not at home you can just lock them in your bathroom, closet, or hamper.
Then again, if you had a big enough coat you could just use rope to wear your moid underneath it.
Though overheating would be a problem in hotter areas.
And none of this works if you get more than one y'know

Anonymous 40013

Putting them in a hamper seems like a good way to ruin your moid's brain. Don't you think?

Anonymous 40019

Maybe if you only changed clothes once every other week.
It's supposed to be comforting for them, or at the very least enforcing your presence on them.
I guess if your hamper is honestly that bad you could just use it as a punishment and keep them in one of those bedsized chests with a few worn t-shirts to keep them company.
Really you should be showering every day.

Anonymous 40029

Big plot hole, here. If anything most moid's are going to belong to families like daughters in feudalism, married off to other families as a symbol of unity and alliance. Wayward moids will only come out of peasantry.
I shower daily. I just don't wash my clothes often because I get so many spares, so all I'm thinking is they're gonna lose their minds and go feral in there like my cat.

Anonymous 40030

Maybe it's just instinctual for mothers to ward off their moid offspring in order to send them into the world at large in hopes that somebody picks them up.
I'm sure upper class people would make arrangements, but otherwise they would push them out and hope for the best.
Also if you change clothes the smell shouldn't be strong enough to torture them.
Just strong enough that they always feel your presence to some extent.
And you would only keep them in there when you're gone if you think something would happen to them when you're away.
Though eventually they should become attached to you enough to not run away and keep away from windows.
If the smell is honestly that bad, you could use it to punish them without making them perpetually afraid of your touch.

Anonymous 40044

Not where I live. It's too hot here I always have to shower. Poor moids will die under the sun. :(
One can only dream.

Anonymous 40051

you could always force him to adapt to your scent
maybe you could just use his clothing as sweat rags or something, so that he's always forced to breath in your scent.
it would be like marking him.
you could also turn up the AC at night to force him to go to you for warmth.

Anonymous 40058

>not conditioning his brain to accept your scent
>not imprinting his brain with permanent anxiety should he be deprived of your scent
>not making your moid physically addicted to your prescence

Anonymous 40060

>little brother
oh i thought you were talking about moids in general
i was the first post you replied to

Anonymous 40062

>throwing him in your hamper not as a punishment, but as a means to keep him attached to you
>smearing your moid onto yourself after a long day so he'll immediately be overloaded by your scent and susceptible to your demands
>his response heightens to the point he will know where you are immediately based on scent alone, stopping him from getting lost

Anonymous 40069

Meant for
Didn't even realise this was a misreply, though i was just being misunderstood lol. I was half asleep both times i replied so whatever.
So what would you actually have your moid do other than massaging you and acting as your teddybear/sex slave?
You could have him wash you in the shower or bath i imagine, and you could use your time washing him to make a point on how he's your property.
He couldn't really cook in your kitchen, but you might be able to buy him a mini kitchem so he could cook you bite sized pastries.
Housework is a given since you would be supporting him financially .
I think moids with hobbies would be somewhat rare, at least off the streets.
So you could have him paint or play an instrument for your own amusement.
You could sell his work if he got good emough, since he is your property after all.
Any other ideas?

Anonymous 40072

Super late but 1. Men can literally rip your legs off them with one hand 2. Kengan Asura is full of shit and 3. street fighting is different from MMA, weight classes and rules exist for a reason. Try to triangle choke someone in real life and they just fall over and you smash your head against asphalt and die, but not before they rape your ass anyway. If a big guy is coming for you, you hightail it until you reach a big street where the cops can see you.

Anonymous 40088


there's tons of girls stronger than guys, overpowering a dude isn't all that hard, if you're kinda weak just lift some weight and make some gains

Anonymous 40098

>moid decides to escape after three months of being with you
>has a mental breakdown from being deprived of your scent
>find him curled up in a ball
>literally twenty or so feet from your front door
>pick him up and throw him on your bed
>spend the rest of the night humping him as punishment

Anonymous 40099

Eww, you have to wash him first.

Anonymous 40100

considering his mental state, you're probably going to be doing all the work in the bath.
You can't exactly force him to wash your underboob in order to embarrass him while he's barely lucid.
You could use him as a loofah, but that would probably get soap in his eyes.

Anonymous 40103

This. Fighting is a bad idea and fighting a roid moid or one that knows how to fight is a really bad idea.

But jiu jitsu still has a lot of value if you want to protect yourself in places where you can’t escape like in an elevator. Simple things like going for a clinch and getting underhooks so he can’t punch at full power isn’t intuitive but the principles of jiu jitsu can help you to even the fight enough to survive much stronger attackers.

Anonymous 40105

>exist at an intersection of a femdom fetish and a fear of the physical capacities of men
Life is pain

Anonymous 40106

Woah this is so hot

Anonymous 40108

You'll have to stop him from lapping up the bathwater like a dog.

Anonymous 40110

Literally just hold his head slightly above the water.
Jut hold him under your chin.
Also you're forgetting that he just had a mental breakdown and passed out on the sidewalk.

Anonymous 40113

>get tired of being constantly alone
>decide to finally start "dating" and bag yourself a moid
>your new moid is extremely skittish and flinches away whenever you try to touch him
>this continues into the night
>have an idea
>Turn the heat in the house down enough for your teeth to clatter slightly and drag your moid into your bedroom, locking the door behind you
>put a chair with objects too heavy for the moid to move and smugly tuck yourself into bed
>start undressing under the sheets, throwing your worn clothes at your moid in order to assert your dominance
>you watch your moid as he starts inching closer to you as the cold starts getting to him
>give him an incredibly smug look as he motions to your bed
>lift your sheets without pulling him in, forcing him to move towards you on his own
>you let your sheets fall once again with your moid trapped underneath
>you wait for him to make contact with your body for warmth before slowly moving your arms around him
>you slowly increase the pressure of your arms until he's practically being smothered
>he doesn't struggle since he knows he wouldn't survive the night without your warmth
>you wait for him to fall asleep in your embrace before slapping a tracking collar on him and calling it a night.

Anonymous 40149

The sex slave/teddybear part or the making him cook bite sized pastries part?

Anonymous 40151

This is even hotter thank you qween

Anonymous 40152

>out for a walk in the park
>lots of moid owners taking theirs out for a stroll
>see a half dozen really muscular women walking a panting, sad-looking chonker
remember to keep your moid involved in your active lifestyle
don't worry too much about him running away to let him outside
it's a lot more work restoring his health than maintaining it
and if he dies it'll be a lot harder catching a new one when you're 50 or 60.

Anonymous 40159

I imagine that you would be giving your moid human food, and could probably just share whatever's on your plate with him.
Though this doesn't really work if you eat unhealthily, since that would also be unhealthy for your moid.
You could always just slightly increase your portions and have him eat sitting on your lap so you can lean on him if he refuses to eat.
Though you would need to cut smaller pieces since his jaw would be smaller.

Anonymous 40176

what the fuck is this thread holy shit are you all severely autistic or what

Anonymous 40177

>Breeding men to be small
>Not making your own quadruple amputee body pillow / sex slave

Anonymous 40178

He can't cook you bite sized pastries if he doesn't have arms

Anonymous 40180


Anonymous 40200

>not wanting to be fifteen times stronger than your boyfriend
>not wanting to literally own your boyfriend
>not wanting your moid to be physically dependent on your scent
>not wanting to buy a moid sized kitchen and have him bake bite sized pastries
>not wanting to dress your moid up in cute outfits 24/7
>not wanting to be able to have your moid between your thighs at a single snap of your fingers
>not wanting to cuddle your moid by forcing him to come to you for bodyheat at night
>not wanting to make him have the softest hair imaginable so you can just spend hours on the couch running your fingers through it
>not being able to force him to watch whatever your watching by just holding him against your chest
>not wanting to constantly tease him at every opportunity for how small he is
>not wanting to trap him between your thighs to assert your dominance

Anonymous 40215

Found the incel, women can be and are often stronger than men on the regular. This kind of post just proves how fragile masculinity really is.l and how easily boys are intimidated by the though of a strong woman.

Anonymous 40238


Anonymous 40240

t. "I'm builtfat! It's a bulk!"

Anonymous 40256


You have absolutely zero evidence to support those claims and no Cherry-picked YouTube videos don't count as evidence either. You're bro-man-macho gym experience doesn't count either. Fuck out of here with your misogyny.

Anonymous 40259

Moids can die from a squeeze on their balls lol

Anonymous 40275

Anonymous 40285

Well what would you do with your moid?
or are you just here to jack off?

Anonymous 40290

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enough talk, get in the fucking bag

Anonymous 40294

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>you have a choice

Anonymous 40296


Anonymous 40297

there haven't been mods the past 4 hours

Anonymous 40298

forget the mods
get the gymbags

Anonymous 40300

Protect me uwu

Anonymous 40310


I love the raccoon moid-verse anons. Bless u all

Anonymous 40318

>slowly your moid starts adjusting to his new life
>start giving him more chores as the days go by
>still don't let him out of your sight when you're at home
>lock him in your hamper whenever you're gone with a mp3 player containing a five hour track consisting entirely of you asserting the fact that he's your property
>bathing with him becomes easier overtime with him showing less resistance to your constant manhandling and groping
>always have the water level of the bath high enough so he has to cling to you if he doesn't want to drown(not all moids can swim y'know)
>eventually start having him clean you, intentionally trapping his hand\arm whenever he tries to clean inbetween something
>feign ignorance everytime, waiting for your moid to signal to you he's stuck before releasing him after a few seconds
>everytime your moid sitting on the couch you make sure to sit down right next to him, always giving him the impression that you're going to crush him
>look down at him smugly as the indent in the couch causes him to fall towards you
>you hold his head down to prevent him from sitting up, forcing him to use your thigh as a pillow
>turn on the racoon-moid-verse version of how-its-made
>stroke his silk like hair as he falls asleep in your lap to the sounds of a narrator explaining the production process for gym bags and dufflebags

Anonymous 40358

So if we lived in the raccoon moid-verse(which we unfortunately do not), would you get a moid for yourself?
How would you go about doing so (trapping, luring, straight up running them down)?
And what exactly would you make them do for you besides being a sexslave/teddybear?

Anonymous 40364

>decide to give your moid a pet name
>a nickname besides his actual name
(the one you gave him, not the one he was born with)
>read in a moid taming book that its important to always be reinforcing the roles in the relationship, with you being the master while he's your property
>says an easy way to do this is to put the word "my" before any term you address him by
>States to emphasize the word 'my" more than the actual name of the moid
>start applying this everywhere
>MY teddybear
>MY moidboy
>MY cuddleslut
>MY bunny
>book also says to assert your physical presence around him through simple actions like leaning on him and lightly flashing him
>start putting weight on him at every opportunity, whether in the form of your chest or forearm
>start stroking his hair more and feeling him up even if you're not in the mood for sex
>start conviently dropping objects in order bend over right in front of him
>get to see his flushed face as he looks away from you in an attempt to make you think he wasn't looking
>tease him about it at night

Anonymous 40374

Why is this fantasy called the “raccoon moidverse”
Also where the fuck did it come from, was it just in the last 12 hours on /feels/ and /b/?

Anonymous 40375

It's literally just from this thread, it doesn't have an official name yet, whoever called it racoon moid verse probably did because it was easier than trying to explain it from scratch

Anonymous 40380

Yeah I just scrolled up and found the rest. Saw it leaking over into b earlier

Anonymous 40418

Think it started when it was established that moids would have to be small enough to fit in a duffle bag for abduction to become normal and accepted.
This would also make them rather similar to raccoons, since they would have to survive on the streets in the same way.

Anonymous 40419

Mods should move the second half of this thread into a coom thread on /nsfw/

Anonymous 40431

People seem to be focusing more on the teddy bear part than the sex slave part, though also on having the ability to tease said teddy bear.
So I don't know how good of a lewd thread that would make.
It's alot more entertaining to think of ways to make him cuddle you without forcing him to than it is to think of ways to get his face in your crotch.

Anonymous 40502

well that's something i just learned about

Anonymous 40508

Checking if anyone's posted there takes more effort than refreshing the main page, though.

Anonymous 40515

yeah, but this au talk is veering pretty far from the thread's original intent. Also, the anons talking about it are doing it in a very fetishistic manner, even if it's not outright explicit

Anonymous 40537

I can’t tell if it’s the least active board because the admins hide it or because of le ebin “women aren’t as horny as men” meme being real. Admins need to unvault it so we can get some accurate data tbh

Anonymous 40555

Well wouldn't the thread have to be explicit in order to actually be a thread?
A moid-raccoon thread would probably last better on /b/.

Anonymous 40588

It sounds like you were twirling your hair while writing this, OP.

Anonymous 44631

you knew at least …

Anonymous 45053

Your SO is supposed to be your ally in this cold, unwelcoming world. Not someone to have a power struggle with. If either you fears or wants to harm the other then the relationship isn't loving and will breed conflict and resentment.

Anonymous 45056


Is that… Racemixing I spot?

Anonymous 45070

If you deny OP and this >>31529 you are probably a fucking scrote infiltrating this site, or just a delusional woman who doesn't know the world she lives in.

Male dominance and aggression towards females is innate. The most aggressive chimps beat and stalk females but they also have the biggest reproductive success. Even among bonobos, which aren't as male dominated as common chimps, sexual coercion is still present and the most dominant males (usually the sons of a dominant female) get a free pass to sexually coerce females. Males were subjegating women cross-culturally and throughout whole human history. Now women in the "first world" countries have more rights so male degeneracy needs different ways to express itself, through porn, prostitition, human trafficking etc. But even here abuse towards women is still present. Males just figured out that treating most of their slaves well gives them more profits than treating them badly all the time, but it's still slavery.

Anonymous 45078

Yeah, i think women often forget how much stronger men are. I personally already feel uneasy when a moid jogs past me when i go for a walk in a park. You can see that they're so much more powerful and faster than women.

Anonymous 45121

She's cute

Anonymous 45156

am I cute, though, anon…?

Anonymous 45160

I feel like this is Hollywood's fault mostly
Like a lot of girls will see 160cm, 58kg, scarlett johansson beating up wave after wave of men double her size
And those girls watching black widow that will think "lol men are so weak I could beat them all up"

Anonymous 45189

I've seen you on /cgl/. Stop making men hate us.

Anonymous 45194

Men already hate us, you dummy.

Anonymous 45209

> us
Have you tried not projecting for a change ?

Anonymous 45210

Why do you say that? My dad doesn't and one of my three exes I guess.

Anonymous 45211

All men watch porn and porn is only violence against women.

Anonymous 45212

All men watch action mvoies and action movies are only dudes shooting at each other

Anonymous 45214

Even lesbian porn?

Anonymous 45219

If you didn't live under a rock, you would know it's true. Even if women behaved, it wouldn't stop gangrape, human trafficking, sexual exploitation, acid attacks and so forth. Sure, women commit violence against men too but male-on-female violence is a special kind of inhumanity (e.g. raping girls until their bowels fall out).

What about the other two exes?

Anonymous 45226

I call upon violence!

One would look at me and whisper at his friends. The other yelled obscene stuff at me when we broke up.

Anonymous 45227



Anonymous 45265

I'm not sure you're talking about me. You sound like a pickme btw
Except action movies/video games don't affect their brains the same way porn does and it doesn't show how men see women, you retard.

Anonymous 45267

>Stop making men hate us.
What kind of self-hating buffoon do you have to be to think this way. Men's evils should be called out and if you think men's hatred is such a danger, you would realize there is a problem with the power we allow them to have in society.

Anonymous 45308

Either I agree with you or I'm a stupid bootlicker. Got it. You are such a sweetheart.

Anonymous 45310

Welcome to modern politics

Anonymous 45377

Pretty much this
99% of human history women have had no rights and have been second class citizens at best and property at worst?

We only have rights because males gave us rights, they can take them away and there's nothing we can do about it.

Hell go to Arabic or African countries and it's still like that, only in more western countries is there equality

It's not self hating, it's bitter reality, it's just something a lot of girls don't want to hear
And honestly I can't blame them

Anonymous 45513

99% of human history most people had no rights. Only a very small percentage of women or men at any time had any power. I think people underestimate the power of the recent sanitation like the tampon, house hold innovations like washing machines, and the birth control pill.

You can't separate suffrage movements from these technological changes but I think it was more the latter than the former. Women held as much power as they could in the past.

From my understanding of history women ruled the indoors unchallenged and had a great deal of control. It's an insult to women to think that they would even be able to be controlled by men in all facets of life. When Priam wanted to give Achilles a gift he had to ask permission from his wife and she still chose what linen to give.

Anonymous 45514

Yeah…your understanding is overly optimistic and objectively innacurate.
I suggest reading From Eve To Dawn

Anonymous 45516

and I suggest you read The Illiad, it shows constantly even in Homer's macho world of warfare women rule the households. You underestimate women cause of your own faults or is it that it makes you feel better about hating men. Either way the points I make stand, telling me I'm wrong doesn't help your argument.

Anonymous 45518


Get a gun and make THEM fear YOU.

Anonymous 45522

A fucking epic poem written by a moid educates 0 about women's issues and history.

This whole "matriarchies and good ol' days of the past!" is total horseshite. Women being in control of their households means nothing but more labor in their backs while men still control larger mechanisms of society and neglect/destroy their own families.

Sorry to burst your bubble. The reading suggestion stands.

Anonymous 45524


>burst my bubble

As if my entire understanding of the women's power in the past rest on a single example I brought up off the top of my head. It's just one example of a historic work's mention to woman's place in the ancient world. Feel free to encounter literally myriads more if you did any reading. I never claimed there was a matriarchy of the past and secondly women being control of households might mean more labour but so what. Any position of power comes with more labour.

History records the most apparent and interesting things like wars or trade agreements but that's not what's usually on people's minds. Even professional soldiers spend not even 1% of their life in battle.

What most people care for is what's for dinner, who's turn is it to do chores. Women had the keys to a household's treasury, they decided which servants were hired/fired. Just cause the control they exhibit is internal doesn't make it any less important.

Anonymous 45528

If a slave is made master of the house, in charge of overseeing the grounds and the other slaves, then he certainly has power. But is he not still a slave?

Anonymous 45529

Yes, but women weren't slaves. They weren't forced to labour any more than men were.

Anonymous 45534

>woman's place

Women's place is wherever the fuck we want, not trapped in some scrote's tent because he can't cook his own soup.

Anonymous 45535

Yea I know I'm agreeing with you, the other anon is the one who think women were trapped in tents. I'm arguing they did what they pleased limited only by their duties and sanitation. Not oppressed and held down by men, it's insulting to give women that little credit.

Anonymous 45536

But they still had to live with men
and give birth to children kek Now I can choose not to live with a scrote, not to have children and make my own money. And marital rape is considered as rape, unlike in the past (best proof that wives were considered husband's property). Women who want to be free of marriage and motherhood never had as many possibilities as they have today, and wives and mothers were never as well protected by law as they are now.

Anonymous 45540

Most of human history everyone was treated as propriety. still is to some extent in degrees that vary from place to place

Anonymous 45557

Trinity Gottler.jp…


girls are doing great against the guys in combat sports since intergender matches were allowed, this girl is kicking guys butt in the 160lbs AND 180lbs weight division
if you train and put effort into it, you can beat any guys ass, only the real hardcore martial artist dudes will be a true menace to you

Anonymous 45586

I wish people would stop with this kind of larping.
1. Women can go nowhere near men in combat sports. The picture you posted is from a middle school championship, where people are nowhere near their potential and the sex differences are still relatively small compared to those in adults. At the highest levels its almost unthinkable for women to win tournaments and thats in the same weight category, not even accounting for the fact that in real life men tend to be a lot bigger om average than women
2. Weight matters more than you think and combat sports matter less than you think in an actual fight. A sport is just that, a sport, it has strict rules, specific movements and so on. Now some of them are a lot more restrictive than others, MMA is pretty close to a street fight, but there will still be things in a street fight you wouldnt be ready for from MMA training. Stuff like wrestling is very different from a real life fight. Of course, having a lot of experience in a combat sport is going to help, but it wont make you able to fight people 30% heavier than you and win every time, or even most of the time. Take into account the fact that youll usually be sparring against people around your weight and there are huge differences between fighting someone whos 60kg and fighting someone whos 100kg. If you ever watched mma fights youll know just how big the difference is, a decently placed punched in the heavy category is knock out almost always, meanwhile in the light category they punch eachother all day with barely any damage.

Getting into a combat sport as a way to defend yourself is ridiculous. It would take years of practice to be able to beat an average man. You would have to dedicate your entire life, diet schedule etc to it to beat guys who have basic training. You will never be able to beat guys who had a good amount of training. Get into it if it seems fun. You want to defend yourself? Buy a gun or pepper spray if thats illegal where you live. Its obviously not perfect, but much better than spending years training just to be able to defend yourself from 70% of the male population. Dont be that person who goes to a few classes of bjj or whatever and then think they can beat up anyone.

Anonymous 45596

Also aren't guys not allowed to grab the girl on certain ways either?
Like I imagine there would be some sort of sexual harassment/assassult case, if one of the male wrestlers grabed one of the girls by her tits as he grabbed her

Anonymous 45598

Not really. From what I know guys can grab girls the same way they grab guys. I have never done a grappling sport, but I have a few friends who did, a couple of them being guys. They said that sparring with a women is one of the least sexy things they could do with a girl and I can see why. Its nothing like bedroom fightplay, youre gonna get matched against people who are at least somewhat of a threat, so your mind is always on the fact that the person is about to break your arms, not on touching their private parts. I guess it could happen that someone grabs some ass or a titty, but in the middle of sparring nobody even notices it or cares about it.

Basically people fondling eachother when sparring is not a concern at all, but who knows, I live in eastern eu so it might be different in the west, you guys are crazy about that kinda stuff.

Anonymous 45628

I mean it might not be sexual but I can still imagine a few girls would call sexual assault. So the refs bring in rules where guys can touch a girls "private areas"

If that's not the case though, why do girls do well in wrestling, but get destroyed in everything else?

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