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Internet sucked the joy out of life Anonymous 40781

Do any other younger users here feel like they missed out on a lot by not being born before the internet became so mainstream? I do realize that some of it is just nostalgia, but people talking about how life was like in the 90s and early to mid 00s just sounds awesome. I am by no means old but I live in a country where internet only became widely available by the time I was like 8 or 9 and I could literally feel it suck all the fun and uniqueness out of life. Nowadays I am just bitter that (among other things) I did not get to experience life before all of this and honestly, it is just gonna get worse and worse. I spend a lot of my time just indulging media and fantasies that take place in that era. Does anyone else feel the same? (And could anyone recommend me any movies or shows with that distinct 90s era nostalgia?)

Anonymous 40783

Yeah. I pretty much felt the same way, except it all went away once I got to my teens. It was so strange seeing such a welcoming world disappear like that. I try to bring it back sometimes, but it seems autism has become an epidemic.

Anonymous 40785

I've never felt like this. While the internet has it's downsides, so does the time before it.

Anonymous 40787

>>40785
I feel like the downsides of internet far outweigh the positives. Sure the internet is good if, uh, you are a hikki or you like to buy foreign or specific stuff, otherwise it is just a nightmare.

Anonymous 40788

>>40787
The way you feel is obvious from your OP post, else you wouldn't have such a complex about the pre-internet world. You're like Ancient Greeks getting butthurt that the younguns are inventing written language as opposed to just keeping everything memorized.

The internet is a tool, how it is used reflects the intents and purposes of the users.

Anonymous 40790

>>40787
It's good for information too. There are hundreds of resources for sex ed and abortions for people who might not be able to get them elsewhere. Info on and help for mental illness too.
Honestly i think the positives outweigh the negatives for anyone with an abusive family, spouse or government. It gives you agency you might not have physically.

Anonymous 40794

>>40791
The sheer amount of misinformation spread is likewise a problem however. It's likewise very easy to provide communities for radical threats to society and platforms for subversive types who will harm onto others. Not to mention how much valuable information is hidden behind academic or professional paywalls anyway.

Anonymous 40795

>>40788
It's a tool, but to suggest that such a tool doesn't drastically alter society or its progression as a consequence is a bit reductive. I agree there's plenty of benefit and I wouldn't want to return to a world without it personally.

Anonymous 40796

>>40794
>The sheer amount of misinformation spread is likewise a problem however. It's likewise very easy to provide communities for radical threats to society and platforms for subversive types who will harm onto others.

>Not to mention how much valuable information is hidden behind academic or professional paywalls anyway.

This was already the case before the internet.

>>40795
>It's a tool, but to suggest that such a tool doesn't drastically alter society or its progression as a consequence is a bit reductive.
Who said anything about it not altering society? I made no such claim.
>I agree there's plenty of benefit and I wouldn't want to return to a world without it personally.
There are better things about a post-internet world, there are worse things about a post-internet world.

Anonymous 40797

>>40795
I mean sure it made life better on paper, but it also sucked the fun out of it. Let's say I wanna watch a tv show in the 90s, well then i gotta catch it when it airs, when it is on a re-run or tape it and then wait a week for a new episode (even if it is just a re-run). Nowadays I just google it and watch it online. Sure it is more practical, but it sort of sucks the satisfaction out of it and makes you appreciate it less. I remember when I was a kid and I wanted to watch Futurama, they only aired eps every tuesday at 2 oclock so I was there every time and it just felt good when you saw a new episode you know. I recently just rewatched all episodes of futurama and it just felt so empty. Like, what's the point?

Anonymous 40804

>>40781
The huge change was about 2007 when a handful of social media companies and then google took over the bulk of the infrastructure and changed the internet from a place to exchange information into just another method for socialisation. I'm old enough to remember when the training in schools was 'never use your real name on the internet' and then the change to companies persuading you to put as much personal data out there as possible so they could market things more effectively.

Anonymous 40810

>>40797
>Let's say I wanna watch a tv show in the 90s, well then i gotta catch it when it airs, when it is on a re-run or tape it and then wait a week for a new episode (even if it is just a re-run). Nowadays I just google it and watch it online.
You can literally still do this. Do you think shows like Game of Thrones dump their episodes all at once? It sounds like you don't actually like watching TV, you like watching nostalgic TV.
>I remember when I was a kid and I wanted to watch Futurama, they only aired eps every tuesday at 2 oclock so I was there every time and it just felt good when you saw a new episode you know.
And that confirms it, your complaint is that watching old TV in "binge" sessions isn't fun for you. Nothing stops you from not binge watching.

Hell, if you really wanted to, you could set up your own little timer each month so that every Tuesday at 2 o'clock you can watch 1 episode of Futurama. It will feel just like the good ol' days.

>I recently just rewatched all episodes of futurama and it just felt so empty. Like, what's the point?

Maybe you became aware of the fact watching TV isn't the most meaningful experience? The point before was to have fun watching, if you're not having fun, don't fucking watch.

Anonymous 40813

>>40810
Christ why are you making this into a debate? I know that I can still do it, but it will only change so much. I still could stop using the internet and the media, but it would not undo all the damage. The problems here are much more broader than the fact that I can watch anything anytime I want. We just have access to so much free shit now that nothing feels good enough. It's like, would you rather get a little chocolate at a time or just get all of the choccy now and ration it yourself? Everyone would choose the latter, and most would give up on rationing part-way through and just finish the rest, even though getting a little at a time feels much better

Anonymous 40816

>>40815
idk I just feel like life had more spice to it before the internet.

Anonymous 40819

>>40796
But do you not think the distribution of misinformation is worse with the internet? It's much easier and faster to go on any social media and send out misinformation to the whole world with a few clicks. On the other hand, it's also easier and faster to do the exact opposite.
In the past, misinformation travelled more slowly and was more limited location-wise.

Anonymous 40820

>>40813
>Christ why are you making this into a debate?
Because this thread is pretty garbage.
>I know that I can still do it, but it will only change so much. I still could stop using the internet and the media, but it would not undo all the damage.
It would if you tried long enough. Why do you think monks retreat to monasteries?
>The problems here are much more broader than the fact that I can watch anything anytime I want. We just have access to so much free shit now that nothing feels good enough.
If you're trying to argue that internet use encourages an ADD type mindset, maybe you have a point, but that's a result of internet abuse rather than use. This again, sounds like a you problem.
>It's like, would you rather get a little chocolate at a time or just get all of the choccy now and ration it yourself? Everyone would choose the latter, and most would give up on rationing part-way through and just finish the rest, even though getting a little at a time feels much better.
If you can't control yourself, as you've stated others will control you for you. You have so little discipline you need a corporations to drip feed you content as opposed to being able to regulate yourself. Have some god damn self control. Your analogy is completely lost on me anyway as that's literally how I enjoy my treats. Unlike you, I can make a pile of chocolate bars last for a month. Not just binge it all at once and complain how supermarkets are responsible for my tummy ache.

Anonymous 40821

Unfortunately the internet also allows us to interact with people anyone would avoid under normal circumstances

Anonymous 40822

>>40816
You say in your OP internet happened to you at age 8~9. Have you perhaps considered what made things less fun wasn't the internet, but rather the fact you were beginning to end the crest of childhood into adolescence?
>>40819
>But do you not think the distribution of misinformation is worse with the internet?
No. I believe the distribution of information is higher in all cases. This means good information and bad information both travel at higher rates.
>In the past, misinformation travelled more slowly and was more limited location-wise.
No it didn't. Look at cases like the McMartin Preschool Trial. Bad information made it on airways all the time pre-internet. Information doesn't pop out of the aether, it comes from humans to be sent to other humans, and humans have been gathering bad information since the dawn of civilization. This gets further compounded when their is money to be made and power to be gained. You think news stations were unbiased pillars of ethical distribution back in the day? Fuck that, let's go even older, no TV, no radio, just fucking newspapers. Yellow Journalism exists for a reason.

Anonymous 40824

>>40822
I mean as a kid I grew up in nowheresville and even then I could subtly feel it changing but it was not the end of the world, it was when we moved and I started attending school in a (still small) city. Everyone there only ever talked about the internet and computers, and sure I admit I liked it for a while but then I grew so bored of it. No one here really does anything without the internet or such, you cannot even go to a barbecue without half the people staring at the phone the entire time. I do not wanna sound "not like the other girls" but I just really do not get it. Sure I use the internet and my phone regularly too, but only when I do not really have anything going on to pass time, not fucking go home and do something on the pc rather than go clubbing like half of my friends (and all of my male friends).

This unintentionally turned into a rant blogpost, I am sorry about that lol

Anonymous 40825

>>40824
>I mean as a kid I grew up in nowheresville and even then I could subtly feel it changing but it was not the end of the world, it was when we moved and I started attending school in a (still small) city. Everyone there only ever talked about the internet and computers, and sure I admit I liked it for a while but then I grew so bored of it.
Yet you use it constantly, why not get rid of it altogether? They still sell flip phones. If the internet bores you, discard it. Fuck, I even have issues with myself owning a cellphone at all.
>No one here really does anything without the internet or such, you cannot even go to a barbecue without half the people staring at the phone the entire time.
You seem to think this people would have been interesting pre-internet. In my experience the type of person who can't stop being glued to their phone has fundamental personality issues that the phone just enables. You're blaming the symptom as the cause. It could also be that if they're not paying attention to what's going on, maybe what's going on isn't exactly interesting to them.
>Sure I use the internet and my phone regularly too, but only when I do not really have anything going on to pass time
Maybe that's what they're doing too? The party is boring and they just want to pass the time until it ends.
>not fucking go home and do something on the pc rather than go clubbing like half of my friends (and all of my male friends).
Why is one superior to the other? Because you like clubbing more? There's nothing inherently better about the act of clubbing then staying home.
>This unintentionally turned into a rant blogpost, I am sorry about that lol
It was probably unintentional, but it's probably why you started this thread.

Anonymous 40831

>>40821
Any concrete examples?

Anonymous 40839

>>40831
People like you

Anonymous 40844

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I spent a lot of time online as a child and in my teens and now I’m almost 21 and think I’ve outgrown the internet. I don’t really find anything funny or interesting anymore and I can’t keep up with the new online trends. In fact coming online tends to make me a bit anxious because my feeds are filled with negativity and hatred. Especially as a woman I see a lot of sexism online and past a certain point I can’t take it anymore. Whereas before the online world was the escape from real life, real life is now the escape from the craziness of the internet.

And I do feel sad that the internet helped spread certain ideologies which can take over some people’s lives and unfortunately a few of them turn to real-world violence over it. The echo-chamber effect of algorithms is definitely real.

I do appreciate the fact that the internet helped me discover new films/books/music/etc that I wouldn’t have ever known about before and also that I can download pretty much all of them for free. Also that there’s a lot of information on academic subjects and how to fix/DIY stuff and other skills like that which some people might have never known otherwise. So yeah, for me social media kind of sucks and it’s better to stick to the useful parts.

Anonymous 40845

>>40844
Sorry if this seems like incoherent rambling but I swear there's a point in here some where…

I was JUST young enough to remember when the internet wasn't a common consumer product. And I got to grow up when it started to become super useful, but even then it was only really cool nerds that only used it because those were the only people who were into it(there was still creeps but not nearly as many).
Now the internet is a trillion dollar market and regular people(dare I say normies) have flooded it and drink it down faster than they know what they're doing. The irony of people complaining about consumerism on the internet goes so much deeper than the regular critique that it's not even funny.

You don't need to buy 100 mcdonald cheese burgers and eat them all in one sitting to get a good meal. The internet is a product and resource for you to use, you don't need to be dedicated to it. Spend more time living life and making sure the changes you go through are genuinely for the better. And while it's tricky to do, it's really good to make sure you're the one in control of what's letting that change to occur, not some external force or pressure. That's how I think about it anyway.

Anonymous 40860

This video always makes me nostalgic for a time I never experienced. People just seem so much more "alive"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYbe-35_BaA

Anonymous 40905

>>40819
Not when there's only a handful of platforms and honest people are censored or so unmarketable that no one sees their posts.

Anonymous 40906


Anonymous 55484

>>40781
yes. we were never meant to live like this

Anonymous 55487

OP keeping it real.

Without a good support system the internet can be a rabbit hole that's hard to get out of.

Someone once told me humans weren't ready for the internet and they're right.

Sending all of you good vibes

Anonymous 55493

>>55487
I read something yesterday that said that we have 50,000 year old hardware in our brains. Makes sense we are not ready for the internet.

Anonymous 55496

I fantasize about starting an amish like society that rejects the internet and just lives like the old days

Anonymous 58512

>>40781
You'd be depressed without the internet too.

Anonymous 58515

>>55496
I fantasize about it too, but I would probably never want to live in an actual amish-like society, because of all the potential downsides to it.



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