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Please address rampant anorectal violence & misinformation. Anonymous 11366

Blatantly injurious erotic anorectal violence—any anoreceptive activity involving a combination of rapid thrusting, considerable girth, and a prolonged duration—is rampant worldwide, facilitated by widespread (willful) ignorance, apathy, and misinformation. It is impossible for resultant injuries and serious/chronic/permanent anorectal health consequences to be uncommon due to the region's fragility relating to its anatomy and neuromuscular physiology [References: Anorectal Risks 1-3]. When more than one person is involved such violence should therefore constitute a severe crime for any penetrative person—especially if significant mental pathology, a strong judgment-impairing drug, etc. are involved.

Pornography featuring anorectal violence can have numerous effects on some viewers. It may serve as inspiration for their own activities, condition them to be aroused by suffering, and contribute to development of related mental pathology: sexual sadism disorder, sexual masochism disorder, and perhaps even psychopathy for younger individuals [References: Trends & Associations]. People with such inclinations, some affiliated with pornography companies, are having a field day with such violence and spreading disinformation. That unrestrained hedonism is promoting societal decadence.

Governments worldwide have not addressed those matters effectively, and many people are suffering as a result. First and foremost, educational systems under their purview are failing to adequately and accurately educate people about anorectal anatomy, physiology, health, and especially the traumatic risks of anoreceptive activities. Secondly, governments are failing to rein in out-of-control pornography industries over which they have jurisdiction. Lastly, for people who both 1) harm others for profit and 2) inspire countless viewers, governments are failing to ensure that they face severe criminal consequences: Some viewers are inspired to the point of emulation, even using coercion.

Anonymous 11367

>>11366
You could just say anal

Anonymous 11368

>>11367
Sure I could, but I don't. "Anorectal" is more accurate. The length of the anatomical anal canal, which is the portion covered by anoderm extending up to the dentate line, is very short. "Anal" intercourse often affects the region beyond the dentate line lacking in both somatic innervation (i.e., damage elicits no pain sensations) and tissue resistant to abrasion and tearing resulting from significant, repeated shearing (frictional sliding) force.

Anonymous 11369

>>11368
People don’t think prairie dogs are literally canines and anorectal doesn’t actually convey the health risks better than anal. Using anorectal here only makes you seem autistic without conveying any additional meaning besides your disgust

Anonymous 11370

>>11369
1. Accuracy matters. Regardless, this argument over semantics (word choice) is a waste of time.
2. As I have pointed out countless times before, ultimately this is not about me. See also the text covering logically-fallacious diversionary tactics in the OP image. I will not discuss anything about myself in particular. The matters which are covered in the original post apply to many people and to societies worldwide.

Anonymous 11371

>>11370
I’m not actually disagreeing to you, I’m just being mean because I think it’s funny and you’re a doofus who doesn’t know how to communicate

Anonymous 11372

>>11371
Disagreeing with you*

Anonymous 11373

>>11371
Thanks for sharing your opinion.

Anonymous 11374

>>11373
You do realize what you’re proposing is politically impossible putting aside any other argument right? Neither criminalizing anal or making people liable for damage inflicted via anal is possible outside a blanket sodomy ban in religious countries and even then it’s not likely that it would be prosecuted when it involves straight men

Anonymous 11375

criminal justice.p…

>>11374
> what you’re proposing is politically impossible
That is not true. In some cases there already are applicable laws that are not being enforced. The image is related.
> criminalizing anal
That is a red herring. This thread is about anorectal violence in particular, not simply any anoreceptive activity. And even then, so far as anoreceptive violence is concerned, I pointed out that "When more than one person is involved such violence should therefore constitute a severe crime for any penetrative person—especially if significant mental pathology, a strong judgment-impairing drug, etc. are involved." Note the part about _when more than one person is involved._
> blanket sodomy ban in religious countries
Those are even more red herrings:
1. Nowhere was sodomy (a term that can include more than anoreceptive activities) mentioned.
2. Religion is completely irrelevant aside from one single mention in the Wikipedia critique:

"The article about anal sex lacks a neutral point of view — a required element of Wikipedia's philosophy. It fails to present even one _scientific_ opposing perspective, giving readers without exposure to balanced sources the impression that opposition is limited to irrational religious positions."

Anonymous 11376

ok Op but then why does it feel good

Anonymous 11384

>>11376
This but unironically

Anonymous 11385

>>11376
> ok Op but then why does it feel good
That is rather vague.

1. What activity do you mean by "it?" Anorectal violence as defined, or some other anoreceptive activity? In the case of the latter, especially for something such as anilingus, it may not be relevant in light of what was posted about in the OP.
2. If you're talking about an activity involving more than one person, then for whom does it feel good? A receptive person? A penetrative person? Both?

In any case, not everything that feels good is healthy / should be done. Furthermore, some people derive pleasure from pain/injury due to a (self-)destructive mental disorder. Sexual sadism disorder involves the derivation of pleasure from another person's pain or injury. Sexual masochism disorder involves the derivation of pleasure from one's own pain or injury. When an activity involves significant injury or a possibility thereof, then that certainly should be a cause for concern — especially when such an activity has become very prevalent and even socially-acceptable.

Anonymous 11412

trends & associati…

Aside from material documenting related trends on the left side of the included image (part of the referenced compilation), there is more content along the same lines out there. Some of it originates from Melinda Tankard Reist (MTR); she has written several relevant articles. However, she is a Christian, and so she may be anti-pornography for one thing. She may perhaps even seek to eliminate it entirely, which is likely to be an impossible goal. A better and more realistic idea is doing something about those who maliciously perpetrate significant erotic violence against others along with those who direct such activities and/or profit from them (e.g. some pornography company directors and executives). Of course, that would involve attempting reform rather than elimination, and some people may actually want pornography in general to look as bad as possible so they can lump it all together and make a stronger case against every kind of it, violent and non-violent alike.

Anyway, here are some of MTR's articles (Note: ABC.Net.AU has a combined "Religion & Ethics" subsection even though they are separate concepts):

https://mercatornet.com/big_porn_inc/12491/ (Oct 11, 2011)
https://melindatankardreist.com/2015/04/what-no-one-wants-to-talk-about-how-girls-bodies-are-injured-by-porn-using-boys/
https://www.abc.net.au/religion/growing-up-in-pornland-girls-have-had-it-with-porn-conditioned-b/10097244 (7 Mar 2016)
https://www.abc.net.au/religion/consent-education-does-not-stand-a-chance-against-pornography/13231364 (9 Mar 2021)
https://mercatornet.com/online-pornography-is-the-worlds-biggest-department-of-education/71157/ (Mar 31, 2021)

Anonymous 11414

why do some women even enjoy anal? i mean we don't have prostates so it's literally useless and extremely harmful for us. in moids it at least feels good

Anonymous 11426

>>11414
Some (probably even far too many) women endure anoreceptive activities such as anorectal intercourse, and may even feign enjoyment, in order to please a partner.

That said, pleasurable feelings may arise for some receptive women due to various factors. One potential factor that was already pointed out is sexual masochism disorder; there may be other potential sources of pleasure as well. Regardless, as was also noted previously: not everything that feels good is healthy / should be done. Pleasure ultimately is a side issue distracting attention away from other topics. (In other words, the question is not "Does it feel good?" Rather, the question is "Should it be done at all?" The answer for many anoreceptive activities is a definite "No.")

Anonymous 11471

>>11366
> As of 2021/05/15 and for far too many years prior, several related English-language Wikipedia articles have had major & inexcusable flaws
> Those flaws contribute to rampant anorectal violence and misinformation facilitating it.
Why are these major, glaring issues going unaddressed for so many years?
>>11412
Here are even more articles (I can't reasonably fit everything into T&A as an image without making major changes to it, e.g. increasing the resolution and having it consist of three columns of text, creating a separate "Trends" collection and splitting out or dropping the "Associations" portion, etc.):
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/study-reports-anal-sex-on-rise-among-teens/story?id=6428003 (December 10, 2008)
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/anal-sex-heterosexual-couples-report_n_1190440
Anal Sex More Popular Than Possibly Expected Among Heterosexual Couples: Center for Disease Control and Prevention Report (2012/01/06)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20042508
Should children be taught that porn is not real? (2012/10/24)
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2013/apr/28/pornography-everywhere-changing-feelings-sex
Pornography is everywhere, and I think it's changing how we feel about sex (2013/04/28)
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/college-campuses-anal-sex_n_4892105
The Latest Rage On College Campuses Is Apparently Anal Sex (2014/03/04)
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/mother-tongue/11554595/Pornography-has-changed-the-landscape-of-adolescence-beyond-all-recognition.html
Pornography has changed the landscape of adolescence beyond all recognition (2015/04/22)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/04/08/is-porn-immoral-that-doesnt-matter-its-a-public-health-crisis/
https://www.vox.com/conversations/2017/6/27/15873072/google-porn-addiction-america-everybody-lies

Anonymous 11472

>>11414
Not big on anal alone but plugs add extra pressure during normal sex which honestly feels good. Helps to not date a retard who thinks it's okay to put things in there fast and dry.

Anonymous 11473

>>11472
big disagree, the feeling of having a stopped up shit in your ass while being vaginally fucked is awful, sounds awful and i refuse to belive this isn't porno-informed subconsciously

Anonymous 11474

>>11414
Anal is just fucking gross in general.

Anonymous 11475

There are literally nerve endings that extend between the clitoris and the anus.

Anonymous 11486

anorectal risks 1.…

>>11471
> Why are these major, glaring issues going unaddressed for so many years?
Well?
>>11475
> There are literally nerve endings that extend between the clitoris and the anus.
1. That is a rather vague claim leaving plenty of room for interpretation (read about weasel words).
2. The burden of proof is on the claimant.
3. Again:
>>11426
> Pleasure ultimately is a side issue distracting attention away from other topics. (In other words, the question is not "Does it feel good?" Rather, the question is "Should it be done at all?" The answer for many anoreceptive activities is a definite "No.")
>>11366
> The human anorectum is very unsuited for many all-too-common receptive activities due to the region's anatomy and physiology. The single short-term benefit, _potential_ pleasure, is greatly outweighed by the many short- and long-term health risks to a receptive person. [Rationale: Anorectal Risks 1-3]

Anonymous 11487

>>11486
>>11486
how long have you been posting this? i've come across you on three different chans, just curious how long you've been at this and why your specific focus is on anal. i completely agree with you btw.

Anonymous 11524


Anonymous 11568

>>11366
> widespread […] misinformation
> People with such inclinations, some affiliated with pornography companies, are having a field day […] spreading disinformation.
This PDF is related: https://web.archive.org/web/202106/https://files.catbox.moe/hr3fl1.pdf (reddit bullshit & omission; see the description at the top)

As for rampant anorectal violence, these subreddits which clearly are in violation of Reddit's policy* concerning violent content (yet strangely still persist despite that) are relevant. They certainly do not lack for content (and there are MANY more subreddits along the same lines that I could include): /r/painal /r/Roughanal /r/DegradingHoles /r/alteredbuttholes

* "Do not post content that encourages, glorifies, incites, or calls for violence or physical harm against an individual (including oneself) or a group of people" https://www.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/360043513151 [accessed 2021/05/25]

Anonymous 11576

>porn subreddits allowed to ignore typical Reddit rules
Don’t tell anon about the trans policy on female degradation porn subs vs women’s issue ones

Anonymous 11584

The text covering logically-fallacious diversionary tactics is included in the OP image for a very good reason. Anyway…
>>11375
> In some cases there already are applicable [criminal] laws that are not being enforced.
In those cases many people need to ask various questions such as: Who was in a position to enforce those laws—particularly against blatantly obvious serial perpetrators of anorectal violence against others—and why did they fail at this responsibility? These questions are especially important when considering that enforcement is* time-sensitive due to various factors such as perpetrator/accessory relocation.
>>11366
> Lastly, for people who both 1) harm others for profit and 2) inspire countless viewers, governments are failing to ensure that they face severe criminal consequences: Some viewers are inspired to the point of emulation, even using coercion.
Looked at objectively, especially serial perpetrators of violence—along with those who direct their actions and/or profit from their violent behavior such as scene directors and corporate executives (i.e., a criminal accessory)—against others who inspire countless viewers need to be punished severely, AND SHOWN TO BE. That is because their violent atrocities against others may continue to inspire some viewers for many years and even decades afterward. If it is demonstrated that such people will not escape justice (even justice dispensed without government involvement — by any means necessary), then that might be sufficient to dissuade many would-be violent criminals. Psychopaths, for all else that they lack—including empathy for others, remorse about harming others, and a conscience—may still have a sense of self-preservation.

* Barring extremely-unlikely imposition of relevant criminal laws that not only are instituted worldwide to account for relocation, but _also_ are made applicable retroactively to cover previously-produced material that continues to inspire some viewers (again, in some cases even decades later)

Anonymous 11641

anorectal risks 2.…

Here's the traumatic risks summary from the OP image:

Traumatic risks of human anoreceptive activities include inflammation, abrasion and tearing, muscle and connective tissue damage, and colorectal perforation. Sequelae may arise, such as hemorrhage/hematoma, hemorrhoidal disease, ulceration, bacterial infection followed by abscess / fistula / life-threatening systemic sepsis, rectal prolapse, fecal incontinence, anal skin tag (remnant of external hemorrhoidal thrombosis, scar tissue from a healed tear, or a sentinel tag for a chronic anal fissure), and anatomic stenosis (narrowing due to constricting scar tissue). One instance of trauma can lead to multiple complications. Cumulative damage and preexisting conditions are concerns as well.

~2cm beyond the anal opening at the pectinate/dentate line, the epithelium transitions from stratified squamous (anoderm) to a simple columnar mucosal lining in part of the narrow surgical anal canal, continuing along the rectum. That lining is very fragile and easily damaged especially if its mucus barrier is removed by an enema or otherwise impaired. Furthermore, some enemas and lubricants can inflame the lining and even cause it to slough off entirely. Injury to that lining alone elicits no pain sensations due to a lack of somatic innervation, so resultant problems may remain undetected absent one or more obvious symptoms.

Neuromuscular physiology also contributes to anorectal fragility particularly for girthy and vigorous insertions, which are objectively foolish and very likely to be significantly injurious. The involuntary internal anal sphincter relaxes with rectal distension. The puborectalis and external sphincter completely relax when a person bears down, causing hemorrhoidal cushions to engorge and become more susceptible to injury by shear (frictional sliding) force.

Anonymous 11642

anatomy & trauma.p…

And here's the Wikipedia critique, updated slightly ("biological" qualifiers were added and the "as of" date was bumped):

As of 2021/06/06 and for far too many years prior, several related English-language Wikipedia articles have had major & inexcusable flaws, including these:
• The article about the human anus has an image of a human female's anus and perineum that probably were damaged by some kind of major trauma. Biological human females beyond developmental stages in the womb should lack an externally-visible perineal raphe, or seamlike union/ridge, in the anogenital region between the anus and the vagina; the bulbospongiosus muscle is separated in them and does not form a persistent, visible midline raphe as it may in biological males [References: Anatomy & Trauma].
• The article about simple columnar epithelium explains nothing about its fragility nor lack of somatic innervation (for pain sensitivity).

The article about anal sex …
• lacks a neutral point of view — a required element of Wikipedia's philosophy. It fails to present even one _scientific_ opposing perspective, giving readers without exposure to balanced sources the impression that opposition is limited to irrational religious positions. One such scientific perspective: The human anorectum is very unsuited for many all-too-common receptive activities due to the region's anatomy and physiology. The single short-term benefit, _potential_ pleasure, is greatly outweighed by the many short- and long-term health risks to a receptive person. [Rationale: Anorectal Risks 1-3]
• fails to mention the normalization of injurious anoreceptive violence in pornography featuring real people.
• does not point out that "hemorrhoid" is an ambiguous term, sometimes referring to pathology and other times to normal anatomy.
• contains a logically-fallacious appeal to nature: "natural" is not necessarily good or desirable, nor is "unnatural" necessarily the inverse.

Those flaws contribute to rampant anorectal violence and misinformation facilitating it.

Anonymous 11643

>>11641
>>11642
can you not edit the wikipedia article yourself? i'm not exacting and autistic enough to edit wiki articles, but you sound like you'd be good at it and it'd kill two birds with one stone

Anonymous 11644

>>11370
> As I have pointed out countless times before, ultimately this is not about me. See also the text covering logically-fallacious diversionary tactics in the OP image. I will not discuss anything about myself in particular.

> I will not discuss anything about myself in particular.

Perhaps that was not the wisest statement to make in hindsight, but it was made.

> The matters which are covered in the original post apply to many people and to societies worldwide.

Many people and societies worldwide therefore should address those matters seriously and effectively. The pasted text in the OP should provide sufficiently significant justification for serious and effective action. Then there's all of that material from others in Trends & Associations, not to mention many articles pasted in this thread.

Anonymous 11675

>>11584
> Looked at objectively, especially serial perpetrators of violence—along with those who direct their actions and/or profit from their violent behavior such as scene directors and corporate executives (i.e., a criminal accessory)—against others who inspire countless viewers need to be punished severely, AND SHOWN TO BE. That is because their violent atrocities against others may continue to inspire some viewers for many years and even decades afterward. If it is demonstrated that such people will not escape justice (even justice dispensed without government involvement — by any means necessary), then that might be sufficient to dissuade many would-be violent criminals. Psychopaths, for all else that they lack—including empathy for others, remorse about harming others, and a conscience—may still have a sense of self-preservation.
In the heterosexual pornography world at least, individuals such as Rocco Siffredi established a reputation for inflicting brutal anorectal violence against many victims — for which, apparently, neither he nor many like him have ever been criminally and severely prosecuted. Note that English Wikipedia's current article about Rocco Siffredi says nothing about his penchant for brutal anorectal violence (a major omission since he became well-known for such behavior), criminal prosecution by any government, nor punishment by some other means (e.g. someone taking justice into his or her own hands). The article is entirely too positive, flattering, and light-hearted considering that it's covering someone who has undeniably contributed greatly to the suffering of many others along with societal decadence arising from blatant injustice, inspiring far too many people to emulate his violent behavior, and more factors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocco_Siffredi

Anonymous 11730

>>11642
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Simple_columnar_epithelium&action=history
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Perineal_raphe&action=history
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Human_anus&action=history
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anal_sex&action=history
> The article about the human anus has an image of a human female's anus and perineum that probably were damaged by some kind of major trauma. Biological human females beyond developmental stages in the womb should lack an externally-visible perineal raphe, or seamlike union/ridge, in the anogenital region between the anus and the vagina; the bulbospongiosus muscle is separated in them and does not form a persistent, visible midline raphe as it may in biological males [References: Anatomy & Trauma].
Another issue, covered in the past, is present once again:

The article about the perineal raphe asserts that both males and females have a visible perineal raphe arising from fusion of the urogenital folds. No cited source supports that claim.

Anonymous 11732

lol anal is gross. Rose budding is a crime against nature.

I don’t even know how women gaslight themselves into thinking anal feels good.

Tried it several times like how you’re supposed to and nope. It’s horrid. i guess that’s why only prostates get pleasure from it.
Srsly tho don’t stick anything bigger than a turd up there tho. It really can’t be good for you.

Anonymous 11768

>>11730
> The article about the perineal raphe asserts that both males and females have a visible perineal raphe arising from fusion of the urogenital folds. No cited source supports that claim.
Here is what English Wikipedia's article on the perineal raphe currently claims:

"The perineal raphe is a visible line or ridge of tissue on the body that extends from the anus through the perineum. It is found in both males and females, arises from the fusion of the urogenital folds, and is visible running medial through anteroposterior, to the anus where it resolves in a small knot of skin of varying size."

There is not one reference provided for anything in that paragraph. Further down it's stated that "This article incorporates text in the public domain from page 1237 of the 20th edition of Gray's Anatomy (1918)." Looking at page 1237 right now in the PDF version of the book, it's part of a subsection titled "The Testes and Their Coverings." It is talking about a scrotal raphe. There is no mention whatsoever of a visible anterior/anogenital perineal raphe in [biological] females, not on that page nor any page nearby. Moreover, the word "visible" here could be considered vague and a weasel word: Visible to what? The naked eye? MRI? X-ray? Endosonography? Etc.

Anonymous 11769

>>11768
Here is the paragraph from page 1237 mentioning a raphe:

"The Scrotum is a cutaneous pouch which contains the testes and parts of the spermatic cords. It is divided on its surface into two lateral portions by a ridge or raphe, which is continued forward to the under surface of the penis, and backward, along the middle line of the perineum to the anus. Of these two lateral portions the left hangs lower than the right, to correspond with the greater length of the left spermatic cord. Its external aspect varies under different circumstances: thus, under the influence of warmth, and in old and debilitated persons, it becomes elongated and flaccid; but, under the influence of cold, and in the young and robust, it is short, corrugated, and closely applied to the testes."

Other parts of the book mention a raphe in various regions of the body. On page 423 it discusses an anococcygeal raphe between the anus and the coccyx [tailbone]. Some studies call that posterior/anococcygeal raphe the levator plate; here are a few:
"Female Pelvic Floor Anatomy: The Pelvic Floor, Supporting Structures, and Pelvic Organs." Reviews in Urology. 2004; 6(Suppl 5): S2-S10. PMC1472875.
"MR imaging-based assessment of the female pelvic floor." Radiographics. 2014 Sep-Oct; 34(5): 1417-39. doi:10.1148/rg.345140137. (PMID 25208288)

If anyone would like more studies discussing the levator plate / anococcygeal raphe, just ask.

Anonymous 11787

>>11768
> Here is what English Wikipedia's article on the perineal raphe currently claims
A large and noticeable midline anogenital ridge most certainly is NOT normal anatomy at least for biological females outside of the womb. A "knot of skin of varying size" (a lump in other words) near the anal verge is not normal anatomy either. Rather, both of those are likely to be a result of trauma or perhaps an STI (although there are more and probably rarer possibilities, such as a congenital condition).

It is very likely that those claims to the contrary in Wikipedia's current article about the perineal raphe constitute disinformation. That is, false information (misinformation) was intentionally introduced so that people can refer someone else to the article while saying something like, "Look! What you have is normal!" That also applies for Wikipedia's current article about the human anus article and its image of a female human's anus (although that's a false representation of normal anatomy rather than false information).

And to be absolutely clear and unambiguous: My usage of the word "normal" above is in accordance with the biological/medical meaning, which is not synonymous with "common."

Anonymous 11788

>>11787
> Wikipedia's current article about the human anus article
That's one article too many. Oops.

Anonymous 11795

I can't believe the anorectal violence spammer from lolcow found their home here and actually caused a civilized discussion. For once I hope this doesn't get deleted lmao

Anonymous 11796

>>11795
I'm still confused as shit but I'm glad to see them still posting. Would love to know the kind of person who spams info on the negatives of getting banged in the ass on not one, not two, but more than 5 anon sites

Anonymous 11798

Imagine being obsessed with proving how bad anal is. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t disagree with with OP. I just think it’s funny.



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