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Anavar cycle Anonymous 12533

I've been lifting for a year with minimal results and I want to try Anavar but I'm a little scared. If someone with experiene could answer a few questions that would be great. Is it safe? Are there any sides? How much do I need to take and for how lobg? How much muscle can I expect to build on it? Before/after pics would be appreciated. Thank you.

Anonymous 12564

can't help you much but in this video derek talks about options with less side effects than anavar for muscle gain in females https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXadcMTYfkw&t=1619s

Anonymous 12579

Are you eating enough? Do you get enough protein?
I don't think anavar is worth the risk, anon.

Anonymous 12702

>>12533
For a singular year?
What's your routine, what's your diet, your goals, anything?!

Hormones are not a shortcut, they don't make up for a shitty diet or lackluster training regiment. They are the final 10% to get 110%, they allow you to work harder and break through plateaus you thought were the end, they are the last touch to a perfect diet, an exceptional physique and a commitment you will have to bear the effects from for the rest of your life. You haven't even finished with your noobgains, you are years away in sheer terms of experience to even consider that step.

When you spent half a decade in the gym, when you are in your late 20s, then maybe, just maybe you can consider taking things that permanently alter your metabolism and endocrine balance.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing you will only grow chesthair and get a clitdick.

Anonymous 12714

>>12533
Too much fearmongering itt. Listen to me OP. On paper yes, ideally you'd have to first reach your peak natty physique before even considering hopping on PEDs. On the other hand, I still remember that summer after jr high when we got back to school and our cheerleading squad looked like they'd jut gotten oyt of Tony Stark's super soldier tank. Turns out our coach had pumped them full of who knows what over the summer to the point where the girls that worked the bottom of the pyramid were almost as big as some of the guys on the football ream. Point being, you can use responsibly without destroying your endocrine system. I'm on my phone now but I'll post pics so you can see what six weeks on 10mg did for me later. >>12702 is right though, your training and diet have to be on point.

Anonymous 12715

>>12714
>Turns out our coach had pumped them full of who knows what over the summer
is that even legal?

Anonymous 12717

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>>12714
Back with pics as promised. 4'10 19yo. Keep in mind that I consumed upwards of 2500 calories a day and never missed a workout. I experienced no side effects at all, aside from the fact that none of my tops fit anymore.

>>12715
Probably not, but a full trophy case was enough to make everyone forget about it.

Anonymous 12718

>>12717
Those are incredible results. Do you have any measuring tape measurements of your legs/arms/waist/chest during this time?
Is var cycle good while cutting?

Anonymous 12725

>>12717
>those anime delts
Holy crap, I'll have what she's having!

Anonymous 12727

>>12715
>>12714
>>12717

wait the coach spike them with drugs?! none of the girls knew they were taking anavar?

Anonymous 12728

>>12717
did you practice any sports in highschool?

Anonymous 12729

>>12718
I don't compete or anything, I'm doing this for fun so I'm not crazy about measurements. The only measurements I kept track of were my shoulders and biceps because it was so exciting to see them grow so fast. Shoulders went from 12.5" to 16.5" (~18" with a pump) and bis went from 11" to 14.5" (~16" with a pump).

>>12725
My favorite body part to train.

>>12727
Coach told them it was "essential vitamins", but I refuse to believe that the girls didn't know something was up. I mean the school had to order new uniforms for the entire squad because they couldn't fit in the old ones ffs.

>>12728
Nope. Too short for volleyball/basketball, too scrawny for lacrosse. I did exercise though.

Anonymous 12730

>>12718
Var is great for cutting btw, but you have to be very careful if all you want is to cut. That stuff hits us way harder than it hits men when it comes to gains. Point being, you might get really buff accidentally. If you just want to cut, try 6 weeks on 5mg and MINIMAL TO ZERO upper body work. For example, I didn't train traps at all while on cycle but they blew up anyway.

Anonymous 12731

>>12729
>Coach told them it was "essential vitamins"
oh my god that's awful! i'm actually inshock someone whould do that to minors

great body by the way, i'm reall jelly of your gains, those delts and ceps look incredible

Anonymous 12732

>>12729
Wait, how did you find out what the dosage was? Did the coach tell you afterwards?

Anonymous 12733

>>12717
can't tell if i want to be you or marry you

Anonymous 12734

>>12731
Men will do anything for a trophy. The girls didn't complain at all btw, they loved it. I kept turbo bulking when I got off cycle so I'm not that lean anymore, but thanks.

>>12732
What dosage? I don't know what or how much of it he gave them. I just wish he would have given me some too lol.

>>12733
Thanks but I'm taken.

Anonymous 12735

>>12734
> I'm taken.
men or woman?

Anonymous 12736

>>12735
I have a bf.

Anonymous 12737

>>12717
you're the most valuable miner. i bet no one can outmine you.

Anonymous 12738

>>12736
would you date a guys weaker than you?

Anonymous 12739

>>12717
That can't be healthy…

Anonymous 12742

>>12717
Jfc girl you got swole.

Anonymous 12750

>>12717
how much can you deadlift?

Anonymous 12831

natty.jpg

This is the strongest and most winning (verified) all-natural female bodybuilder of all time, period: Nancy Andrews. Take a good look at her. You will get no bigger and no stronger than her without gear. But it will mess you up pretty bad, in the sense that it will change your body in ways that you can never recover from. But if strength is all you care about, then go for it. I doubt it will hurt you. But you won't recognize what you see in the mirror anymore.

Anonymous 12840

>>12717
>>12533

I want to inject L-carnatine and I'm trying to find a good dosage guide. Do you recommend a certain site for that kind of thing?

Anonymous 12861

>>12714
>>12715
10mg is a ridiculously large dose for women; it might even be a little high for some men on a first cycle, and explains your insanely rapid progress.
Women tend to require less var than men, and can probably get away with 1-2mg. If you find that it isn't enough, then you can increase to 5mg after a while.

Anonymous 12892

>>12717
>>12861
Hypothetically speaking, what would happen if I cycled 20mg?

Anonymous 12905

>>12892
You'd make really good gains, really quickly, and make a lot of moids seethe probably. Var is nice in that it has relatively few side effects compared to dbol, test or even some sarms, but at 20mg you might want to be careful in case of side effects.
I'd strongly recommend against it, but if you choose to do it, post results! It would probably be insane.

Anonymous 13313

>>12717
Good lord look at those delts

Anonymous 13334

>>12840
You can try r/steroidsxx

Anonymous 13335

>>12831
Not really, you can easily become smaller back again if you want.
Just look at sophie averbrink she was huge at some point.

Anonymous 13346

>>12717
>from sticc to beefcake in 6 weeks
That's it, I'm hopping on var. I'm getting as swole as is humanly possible. My ex is going to freaking lose it next time he sees me.

Anonymous 13415

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>>12892
>>12905
Well, I gave in. I couldn't help myself. Now though I'm starting to get a little freaked out because I'm only on week 3 on 20mg and I've already hit beefcake mode, pic very related. No pump either btw. Getting a little hypersensitive downstairs too. Should I stop?

Anonymous 13429

>>13415
>I'm only on week 3 on 20mg
Jesus how strong is that stuff?

Anonymous 13439

>>13415
>>13415
this as to be a troll, there's no way this is real

Anonymous 13442

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>>13429
Stronger than I thought!
>>13439
Not a troll. Sorry, I should have posted full body.

Anonymous 13443

>>13415
>>13442
Everytime I see a gigastacy like this I get dizzy, like I'm looking at something that's not supposed to be real. I just wonder what it's like to have a conversation with her…

Anonymous 13444

>>13415
>>13442
Not lez but looking at this absolute hunk of a girl I'm getting the weirdest lady boner. You're bigger than my bf lmao.

Anonymous 13446

>>13415
>>13439

i think s/he is a troll, i just saw that pic posted on /fit/
https://boards.4channel.org/fit/thread/63873519

Anonymous 13449

>>13446
I posted it on /fit/ myself. I've always wanted to post on /cbt/ but I was too insecure about my body. Not anymore!

Anonymous 13450

>>13446
>>13449
Correction because I just clicked on your link. I didn't make that thread. My post was in a previous /cbt/.

Anonymous 13451

>>13415
>>13442
Congratulations you look like a dude.

Anonymous 13452

>>12717
>>13415
>>13442
Why are you doing this? Are you trying to get moids to notice you? You know all you need is a push up bra and a tight top, right?

Anonymous 13453

>>12831
>all-natural
Very unlikely. Just look at her.

Anonymous 13454

>>13415
On one hand I think you should stop now because getting this big in just three weeks can't be healthy, but on the other hand I really want to see what you're going to look like if you finish your cycle.

Anonymous 13458

>>13452
>everything a woman does must be because of moids!!11!!1!

Anonymous 13459

>>13415
>>13442

i'm super curios, how much can you lift doing bicep curls?

Anonymous 13460

>>13449
>>13450
what's /cbt/? and why are you posting on 4chan? that place is awful for your mental health

Anonymous 13461

>>13415
>>13442
Nice work! You look so good! That amount of progress in 3 weeks is awesome.
>Should I stop?
Depends. You're already jacked, so it's fine to reduce the dosage, but it depends on your goals. If you find yourself getting smaller, then you can increase it back again, as long as you're not having terrible side effects.

Anonymous 13465

>>13415
>>13442
You are probably a troll.
Girls don't grow that fast even on steroids.
Anyway whoever is this pic of she looks great and I am a bit jealous of her body.

Anonymous 13466

>>13443
>gigastacy
I'm an introvert and my social circle consists of like three people, so not exactly a Stacy. Having a conversation with me would probably just feel a little awkward because I get extremely nervous around people I don't know.
>>13444
Your bf needs to start lifting asap lol.
>>13451
Correction: bigger than the average dude. :)
>>13452
Because I like it.
>>13454
>but on the other hand I really want to see what you're going to look like if you finish your cycle
Me too, but I'm afraid it might be a little too much.
>>13459
When I started out, my bicep workout was basically 3x12 with 10 lbs dumbbells. Now I warm up with 15s and curl 25s for reps. Gonna try 30s soon.
>>13460
It's the Current Body Thread where everyone posts to show off their gains. Always wanted to do that. In hindsight it was stupid because all I got was disgusting comments, but for a moment there it felt good.
>>13461
>If you find yourself getting smaller
Oh God is that a possibility? I don't wanna lose my gains. I'll give it one more week on 20mg and if I start looking like I belong in a circus freak show I'll just stop. Vascularity is what scares me the most. Veins are already starting to pop all over and if I get too vascular I won't be able to hide it from my mom.
>>13465
I paid upwards of $1.500 for this cycle, I'd be very disappointed if it didn't work lol. Thanks though.

Anonymous 13467

>>13442
>>13415
>>13466
Are you powerlifting enough now that you piss yourself?

Anonymous 13468

>>13466
>>13415
Jesus you look great. I might go to the gym myself(I was always to scared to do this).
Also any chance for timestamp?
Also aren't you like similar strength to your boyfriend right now(if you have one) most of guys aren't really that strong at 20yo.
Not that I have any problems with that. I could imagine myself being stronger and that would be interesting, at least I think so?

Anonymous 13469

>>13466
>is that a possibility?
If you stopped taking it, then you probably would start to, but if you just reduced it, then you should be fine. Even 5mg is a good amount to see solid gains, so if you reduced it to that, I reckon you'd either maintain your current body or just progress slower. If you want to be absolutely sure that you'll keep progressing, then you can't go wrong with 10mg.
>all I got was disgusting comments
This makes me think you're not her. I went through that thread, and the responses were mostly compliments or moids expressing their jealousy.

Anonymous 13470

>>13466
>curl 25s for reps

how many reps can you do?

Anonymous 13471

>>13467
I'm not a powerlifter, I'm a bodybuilder and I've never had an accident like that.
>>13468
No bf but I'm definitely bigger and stronger than a lot of dudes at the gym.
>>13469
Thanks for the advice. As for the thread, I'm a little thin-skinned I guess. Because yes a lot of the comments were positive but also creepy. One guy accused me of having fake boobs which I don't, another wanted me to peg him and I was also told to go f myself by some dude disappointed by his own progress. Won't be posting there again.
>>13470
My bicep workout looks something like this:
>4x12 alternating curls
>4x12 ez bar curls
>4x12 hammer curls
>4x21s
>ez bar curls to failure

Anonymous 13472

>>13471
Cycle?

Anonymous 13473


Anonymous 13474

>>13473
So you're a body builder, i get that.
However, do you know how much you can lift? I.e. bench or squat?

Anonymous 13475

>>13471
dang! you can do 4x12 with 20lbs?! that's crazy! i once tried to do a set of 20 with 20 lbs but failed miserably

Anonymous 13476

>>13474
You asked for my cycle which is why I directed you to my previous post. I can bench 1pl8 easy, and squat/deadlift 2pl8s. Working on benching 2pl8s and squatting/deadlifting 3pl8s.

Anonymous 13477

>>13475
25 lbs! :)

Anonymous 13478

>>13477
you'r ecrazy strong! i know guys who can't curl that much!

Anonymous 13479

>>13471
Have you measured your muscle before/after cycle?
How many cm's is that arm and how much have you grown? (I thought my 29cm bicep wasn't bad…)
Also out of interest why no boyfriend, not into moids?
How long should be the cycle, 6 weeks?
You will probably get a bit smaller after it finishes from what I know(but I am not an expert at all).

Anonymous 13480

>>13476
3 plate even on a cycle would take a while.
As you get stronger your progress will slow.
Dunno what your limit will be.

Anonymous 13481

>>13466
do you like anime? i noticed a lot of girls who do powerliftign and bodybuilding are huge weebs

Anonymous 13485

>>12717
>>13415
>>13442
Would either of you be interested in a smol submissive gf? I'm 4'8, 85lbs, I'm very clean and hygienic and I know how to cook. Please respond.

Anonymous 13486

>>13415
Tori?!

Anonymous 13488

how do i even begin looking for sources for this shit? i look so fucking wimpy thanks to my ed when my lifts aren't even bad because ive been on and off weight lifting for nearly a decade

Anonymous 13489

>>13488
There are a lot of female lifters on youtube I would start there

Anonymous 13492

>>13415
Holy fuck those gains got me wet.

Anonymous 13494

>>13488
i'm curious, how much can you lift?

Anonymous 13560


Anonymous 13594

I was able to squat 190 for 2 sets of 5 and 200 for 1 set of 3 yesterday! Feeling excited. Low bar squat with belt. I think soon I’ll cut and then maybe use anavar, once I stop seeing progress.

Anonymous 13625

I do have a shit-tier body because my bones are linebacker and I am shaped like a man with no curves and a flat chest no matter how much weight I gain. Also I'm 6"0.

Honestly when you're shaped like that, are you better off actually leaning into it? I don't want to be super ripped but literally it's impossible for me to have a normal feminine body and I wonder if it'd just be cooler to make the most out of it.

Anonymous 13648

It's a shame I can't look like the girl in the picture because it'll look hilarious. I'm 5'1 and I'll just look like a compressed beefcake.

Anonymous 13650

>>13648
Bulk up and use winrar.

Anonymous 13653

>>13594
doing 200lbs squats is such a cool goal, taht means you can easily lift a grown man

Anonymous 13659

>>13653
It's fun! I feel better and more energetic in everyday life. Plus I recently started in a BJJ gym. There's a lot of new male members there who get REALLY butthurt that I'm stronger than them. I get so annoyed, like bitch you have natural steroids running through your veins, if you aren't stronger than me it's because you've never lifted a weight in your life. So stop getting mad that you haven't gotten something that you put literally 0 effort into getting. The older/more experienced group has a lot of women who are amazing, so they don't have that attitude.

Anonymous 13661

>>13659
What kind of clothes do you wear outside of gym? I’d imagine you don’t fit in sleeved female tops anymore

Anonymous 13662

>>13661
I look really normal lol. My arms are more defined, but my overhead press is only like 50 lbs on a good day for 3 sets of 5. Most people expect me to weigh a lot less than I do. I fit into most clothes. The true power of anavar is that you get all swollen up and puffy. idk why. But no, I still wear clothes from highschool sometimes. Arms just are more muscle and less fat. Still pretty fatty though.

Anonymous 13663

>>13662
Oh, I’m sorry, I thought you were >>12717 / >>13415.

Anonymous 13664

yeah i kinda guessed. She's amazing.

Anonymous 13668

>>13662
Anavar doesn't aromatise to estrogen so no water retention.
And your natural hormone production is suppressed while on cycle.

Anonymous 13672

>>13659
lmao if you start doing anavar, you'll mog them even harder and they'll get even more butthurt. Not much more cathartic than seeing a prick seething about being emasculated.

Anonymous 13677

>>13668
do you still have periods?

Anonymous 13678

>>13672
honestly I want to just for the recovery. If I lift weights I'm like exhausted for bjj. so I have to cut back on training. I feel like if I do roids I'll have so much more endurance (in addition to strength)

Anonymous 13679

>>13677
With long term use you'll lose your period. I'm not sure about short term use. You also have to give it a few weeks or months for your hormones to get back to baseline. That's when the worst of the sides will occur

Anonymous 13680

>>13659
>There's a lot of new male members there who get REALLY butthurt that I'm stronger than them.


for real? how do you know they're butthurt? they start to act passive aggressive or some shit?

Anonymous 13681

>>13659
>>13662
>>13678

how much can you lift doing bicep curls?

Anonymous 13682

>>13680
Well one of them actually started huffing when he couldn't get me in the drill we were doing, and then stopped drilling and wouldn't look at me and just sat there while everyone else was drilling. I felt awkward. After like a minute he got the instructor's attention, complained about me being stronger, and the instructor was like '…you get a blue belt by being able to defeat stronger opponents in this sport. Just be creative and use leverages'. And the guy looked so mad. Another asked the same question but he would still drill with me after and didn't seem as angry. Other than that there were only a couple (2) of guys who looked mad, but didn't really say anything. So I guess I was being dramatic when I said 'a lot' but it felt like a lot for only being there 3 weeks lol.

>>13681
I haven't done curls in a while (been back on starting strength while starting bjj, I have always focused on big compounds idk why I just think they're neat) but I'll do some today and let you know! I'd guess like uhhhh 20-25 for 3 sets of 8-12.

Anonymous 13683

>>13682
how do you know when someone is stronger than you in bjj? i did boxing and the only way to found out that was n the clinch

Anonymous 13684

>>13682
>complained about me being stronger,
wiat what? lol how do you complain about your partner being stronger? one partner will always be stronger than the other, how do you even imply that's something unfair in a martial art?

Anonymous 13685


Anonymous 13686

>>13685
lmao NO i started 3 weeks ago and I am ass at this sport but there are a bunch of women in my gym who are like that and they are amazing.

>>13684
Yeah he didn't really say 'hey she's stronger wtf??' he said 'I can't force her into this position wtf' which is essentially the same thing. If he was asking for guidance on how to get better leverages it would make sense. But he hasn't shown up since so who cares I guess.

>>13683
In this case it was pretty obvious because he was 'skinnyfat' personified. But bjj is all submissions and leverages and rolling around grappling, seems more similar to 'the clinch' than striking. (Side note, boxing seems terrifying, what was it like?) For people who are really good at bjj, they can easily submit someone stronger than them. For 2 beginners like me and him, we ended up relying on strength a lot more than we should have and he was pulling/curling me and I was pushing him away, so it was obvious.

Anonymous 13687

>>13686
>But he hasn't shown up since
dang! you destroyed his ego!

Anonymous 13688

>>13687
He just didn't have a good mentality. Quit at the first disappointment.

Side note - I complained about 4 very new guys, 2 of which I haven't seen since. The gym is predominantly male, and every other guy there + every person that was there longer than ~2 months has been SUPER awesome and helpful, not toxic or mean at all, even if they are still physically weaker than me. If you're looking for a martial art and are worried you'll be seen poorly as a woman I def suggest BJJ.

Anonymous 13689

>>13688
>2 of which I haven't seen since
you made two guys quit?! that's crazy lol i almost feel bad for them
>not toxic or mean at all
what kind of toxicity can you expect from those type of guys? i made some striking martial arts but everything happens so fast there that there's just no time for no one to show any obvious toxicity or make any passive aggressive remarks

Anonymous 13690

>>13688
4 guys in 3 weeks is a lot tho

Anonymous 13691

>>13689
>you made two guys quit?!
Eh idk if I made them quit, they just weren't cut out for it. They also hadn't done weightlifting and didn't seem particularly athletic, so I guess they quit all those things too.
>no time for no one to show any obvious toxicity
I see your point, they are pretty quick interactions, but when drilling over multiple sessions they have seemed happy and have been very helpful in answering questions, giving explanations and pointers, and complementing my movements in a non-condescending or creepy manner. But they could all be lying I guess idk, I'm just pointing out that it's been super fun and awesome for me and it likely would be for you too.

Anonymous 13692

>>13690
But I have drilled with ~4 guys per session, 5 sessions a week, so 20 guys who were helpful, in addition to seeing that a woman teaches one of the sessions and whenever advanced men role with advanced women they take it seriously and give it their all. Don't be put off the sport because 4 newbies were mean to me! All of them were very new, only 1-3 sessions! Go play, it's awesome!

Anonymous 13693

>>13688
>were mean to me

in which way were they mean to you?

Anonymous 13694

>>13688
(Side note, boxing seems terrifying, what was it like?)

it's really not, in sparring you never go all the way, it's considered bad etiquette going even slightly hard even, you should just try to connect no force/pure technique strikes,so there's no real danger or pain involved, like playing tag

Anonymous 13695

>>13688
>>13690
>4 guys in 3 weeks is a lot tho

that's more than one guy being a creep each week lol

Anonymous 13696

>>13693
I just meant what I described in >>13682, which is obvious if you can follow a conversation on a message board.

>>13695 yeah but less than the general population tbh

Anonymous 13697

>>13682

does that mean if i drill with a moid that's stronger than me, he just overpower me and won't let me do shit?

Anonymous 13698

>>13594
> 200 for 1 set of 3

wow that's a lot!! are you a powerlifter?

Anonymous 13699

>>13697
See >>13686 at the end.
>for people who are really good at bjj, they can easily submit someone stronger than them.
Being weaker often means you learn the techniques faster because you can't brute force it like my trogg self.

>>13698
I mean I use more powerlifter type programming, but I don't compete, I just think it's fun.

>>13681
I did curls this morning. Did 1 set of 8 with 25lbs and was like 'bro FUCK this'. then I did 2 sets with 20 lbs, but I wanted to go down tbh, just didn't want to make myself a liar hah. My arms are so weak!

Anonymous 13702

>>13697
that's bjj in a nutshell, they take pride in hazing the newbies, they call it an "ego check" but it's just the same ol bullshit deposition bullshit jocks do in every sport,at least when is handled by a medicore coach, you'll spend weeks or even worst, months just getting tapped again and again until you git good, and all you get as feedback is some useless advice like
>"you get a blue belt by being able to defeat stronger opponents in this sport. Just be creative and use leverages'
which means next to nothing to someone who's just starting

i wish wrestling existed as a sport for people outside of highschool or high level college athletes

Anonymous 13703

>>13702
Ohhh my gym isn't like this. That sucks anon. :(

Anonymous 13705

>>13703
from what you're describing it sounds exactly like one of those gyms

Anonymous 13706

>>13705
I am not describing it well then. It’s harder for me to explain more detailed advice they give. For instance, one time we were drilling a kimora and I couldn’t get this big guy to tap. I was trying really hard to force his elbow up and hugging and puffing. The coach came over, had me stop and breathe, and showed me that I had to pull it tighter in and rev my wrists and lever his elbow more towards his head, a different angle. When I did that, he tapped immediately. Another time I was trying to shrimp out with some big guy on side guard. It was really hard to force my way out. Another coach came and explained that if I place my forearm on his throat and hip, it’s easier for me and more uncomfortable for him. Also, if I pop my hips up first before pushing with my hands while shrimping, it creates space to move through. Another time we were drilling where one person throws your legs to the side (to pass guard) and you rotate back to face your legs to them. The guy I was with noticed that I wasn’t using my hips at all, just forcing ny way back with my feet, and explained how rolling onto your side makes it easier and faster, and better positioned if you can’t make it back in time. These are just small examples, but most of my interactions have been like that. That’s why those guys who “seemed mad” stood out so much to me.

Anonymous 13709

>>13705
However I have only rolled with women so far! Maybe if/when I roll with a moid it’ll be like that. Anyway, that sucks, I hate that for you. I’m gonna stop replying, I’ve derailed this thread and I actually want to know more abt anavar.

Anonymous 13710

>>13706
yeah but your interaction with those dudes tell me your coach is a bad coach, because he didn't teach the guy anything, just told him to "use leverage"
also in drills you're not suppoused to use force to a degree in which your partner can't practice the techinique,it's not your fault because you're newbie,but the fact that the coach didn't guide you two to make the best of the drill session, that didn't incentive you to use less brute force and more technique or the guy on which type of leverage to use to by pass said brute force, is already a huge red flag, seems like another lazy coach, with that "you need to get the ego check while rolling" mentality

Anonymous 13719

>>13709
What are you most interested in knowing about anavar?
I know a fair bit about gear. 2.5mg of anavar per day split I to 2 doses should be enough to get the recovery benefits without much risk of virilization. What duration of exposure are you thinking of?

Anonymous 13731

>>13719
Should I try to cut weight before going on it? Does that even matter? Does it have any surprising side effects? Should you take it with food? How long should you take it for? I was thinking of starting with 5 mg split like you said, but idk about duration. Maybe 5 weeks like >>12717 .

Anonymous 13732

>>13731
Anavar will increase your appetite so if you're already a bit heavier than you want to be then do a bit of a cut before then. And also take both doses with food. But at 5mg the side effects went be a problem unless you're genetically pre disposed to hair loss or acne.
For sides, hair loss can occur and your cholesterol can be skewed toward higher ldl. Anavar is technically liver toxic but its just like drinking a bit per day in terms of the damage done.
6 weeks should be a good cycle, you can push it up to 8 if you want but 12 weeks is well too long no matter what dose you're taking.
And while you're on cycle if you develop a bit of a persistent cough or scratchy throat, stop immediately because that's the start of making your voice deeper unless you want that.

Anonymous 13753

>>13732
how much strenght you tend to gain with anavar? is something ridiculous like double your current strenght or more like an extra boost?

Anonymous 13760

>>13753
Girls on anavar can get seriously strong but I'm not sure on figures. Thats probably very dependant on your baseline. You definitely won't be twice as strong on cycle unless you we're untrained before and were a hyper responder to anabolics.
Most of the girls are stronger than guys who don't lift but weaker than guys who lift regularly.

Anonymous 14154

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>>12533
Just go for it if it's something you really want. Make sure you don't cycle more than 5mg if your goal is "getting toned". I cycled 20mg because I was told var was "pretty mild" and it hit me like a truck. I didn't get any icky side effects but now I'm literally too big to compete in Bikini like I was planning. For most women, 4-6 weeks on 5mg is more than enough to get you that beach body.

Anonymous 14158

>>14154
do you want to lose muscle mass now or are you overall happy with the results?

Anonymous 14415

>>14154
Is this you?
The girl on the pic looks great.

Anonymous 14423

>>12533
steroid muscles are very easy to spot and look terrible. don't do it.

Anonymous 14429

>>14423
>steroid muscles are very easy to spot and look terrible

not really, only someone really into bodybuilding will know the difference, normal people don't know how to difference a roided from natty

Anonymous 14458

>>14423
wrong opinion.
you are now banned

Anonymous 14466

>>14429
normal people can tell the difference, they just don't know exactly what the difference is. Your brain knows what a normal human looks like and so it knows when something is off, even if you can't articulate exactly what it is that makes a person "off". Whenever people say someone is "too muscly" that's their brain telling them something is wrong with the lifter.

Anonymous 14481

>>14154
How does one get anavar? I don't have any drug friends and I also heard there's a lot of fake anavar in circulation

Anonymous 14483

>>14466
sorry but that's bullshit
somene can be totally natty and still give the "too muscly" vibe
and someone can be on roids and give a natty vibe
the only clear sign of roids is a masculine voice and face
some girls train shoulders real hard and get big rounded shoulders, even when natty
the "too muscly" feel comes when a girls train real hard and develop muscles outside of societal expectations, roids can just accelerate the process,and at the end of the day, people who think girls should be somewhat skinny will get that "too muscly" feeling

Anonymous 14484

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>>14483
>somene can be totally natty and still give the "too muscly" vibe

Thats not true. The natural womans physique generally has little muscle on display, it's more of just a general "thickness" with absence of flabby bits of the body parts that hints at muscle. Male bodies don't naturally get any more muscly than this pic (keep in mind he is also striking poses that make his muscles look bigger).

>and someone can be on roids and give a natty vibe

That just means they haven't been lifting hard enough for long enough, i.e they are roiding wrong.

>some girls train shoulders real hard and get big rounded shoulders, even when natty

Rounded shoulders aren't things natty's get, even in men. In fact rounded shoulders are the first and easiest sign of roiding, natural shoulders are very flat, even if you train them a lot. Big shoulders are like big traps, they come because there are a lot of androgen receptors on the shoulders and traps, so they respond the best to roids.

Anonymous 14498

>>14484
you can totally have rounded shoulders being natty, they won't be as rounded as someone doing roids, but you totally can
i know plenty of body buidler girls who have massive rounded shoulders and are natty, one of them even had to do a roid test on a powerlifting met because the judges tought she was on something because her shoulders where that massive

Anonymous 14499

>>14484
the natty guy on your pic has rounded shoulders

Anonymous 14501

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>>14498
"3D Delts", "Death Star Delts", "capped delts" etc are literally only possible when on roids. It is the first and most obvious thing along with traps.

>i know plenty of body buidler girls who have massive rounded shoulders and are natty, one of them even had to do a roid test on a powerlifting met because the judges tought she was on something because her shoulders where that massive

Bodybuilders and powerlifters are never natty with the exception of olympic powerlifters who have to jump through olympic rules and drug tests. Look at various ex bodybuilders and powerlifters online who all go into great detail at the distinct lack of testing. Because remember, its not just an "on the day" test thing because you can cycle and so take some time off roiding whilst still maintaining decent muscle mass. Sure it will decrease over time but it will decrease over a far longer time frame than it takes for your hormones to get back on track. So bodybuilders and powerlifters are basically never tested, and so the tests they do take are basically garbage as they have plenty of time for roiding in the year.

Proper testing is a year round affair, like USADA in the UFC. You are constantly randomly tested for performance enhancing drugs, so roiding is really not easy. There is a reason why the strongest deadlifters in the world, like Eddie Hall, are not also in the olympics, because they could never pass the drug tests required to be on the olympic team.

>>14499
The are certain poses that you can strike that make shoulders look bigger, he is doing some of them. In this pic where he isn't deliberately flaring them you can see that they are actually quite flat, there is a very slight bulge in them about halfway down, but they are not what lifters would call "capped" or "round".

Anonymous 14502

>>14501
>"3D Delts", "Death Star Delts", "capped delts" etc are literally only possible when on roids. It is the first and most obvious thing along with traps.

yes i know that, what i'm saying is that you can have well developed, big shoulders without roiding
a woman can have a pretty impresisve body without taking drugs, and even if she take something most people can't recognize the difference, if a guy hate muscular women he would think any girl with some gains is roided, so even if you go full natty some people will think you're on something, ma yas well just do it if you wanna get those gains

Anonymous 14503

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>>14501
>yes i know that, what i'm saying is that you can have well developed, big shoulders without roiding
The problem is I don't know what you definition of "well developed, big shoulders" are or "a pretty impresisve body". Your ideas could be a very reasonable woman with thicker arms and slightly meatier shoulders, or it could be a full on varbie that you believe is natty. UFC women are good examples of strong and fit women because the very strict drug testing regime means that fake nattys have to go true natty or get booted out very quickly. In this pic for example I wouldn't say any of them are "big". Even if you look at the heaviest womens division featherweight none of them look "big", they just look "meatier".

Anonymous 14504

>>14503
Meant for >>14502

Anonymous 15355

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Anavar is a real steroid and that scared me a little, so I decided to try SARMs. I thought they were just like, hardcore high-end supplements or something. Oh boy. Spoilers: they're so not. They are stupid strong. Like what the hell, it was a legal purchase with a receipt and everything. Part of it is on me for basically planning a cycle for an adult male, but still.

So I read up on cycles and the shortest one was 6 weeks, so I figured I'd half that and do a high-dose 3 week mini-cycle just to be safe (lol). I wanted to make sure I would get results, so I thought I'd cycle two or three of the best SARMs I could find. I settled on a stack of the following four: Ostarine MK-2866, Testolon RAD-140, Ligandrol LGD4033 and YK11 Myostatin, at 20mg each.

Holy. Crap.

I have never felt anything like this before, I was literally growing every single day for three weeks straight. I would lift until the pump was so painful I couldn't move and my skin felt like it would split open at any second, and all I could think about was the next pill and the next workout. Anything I trained even a little, at first just popped and then started blowing up. I woke up with new muscle every morning, and I couldn't stop flexing in the mirror. Kind of embarrassing, but I couldn't get enough of me. It was amazing.

18 yo, 5'2, 115lbs to 150lbs.

Side effects:
<3 My period is gone and there's the crabs doing the dance at the beach and everything.
<3 Libido is out of control. I have to relieve myself several times a day.
<3 My voice dropped a little and I sound like I have a really sexy cold.

Tempted to go on for another week, lmao.

Anonymous 15356

>>15355
Good lord you people need to get more educated on steroids and SARMs. This whole thread is people taking insane amounts for their body type.

Anonymous 15358

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>>15355
doesn't the gains just combust after someone stops taking steroids though? or they start decreasing even when someone tries to maintain them?

also how tf can someone gain 35 pounds in, like, 3 weeks? this really can't be healthy…but yeah it isn't like I know much about it either. I think I'm curious because people already say I look amazonian. but I'm just plush and weak looking even at 21 bmi. picrel is chunky arms even after months of weight lifting and being capable of lifting up a massive piece of furniture a man wasn't able to. <.<

Anonymous 15359

>>14498
>i know plenty of body buidler girls who have massive rounded shoulders and are natty
No you don't. None of them are natty.

>one of them even had to do a roid test on a powerlifting met because the judges tought she was on something because her shoulders where that massive

It's extremely easy to get around these tests and barely anyone is actually tested. Most people in 'natural' bodybuilding competitions aren't natural either.

Anonymous 15360

>>15355
Wow… Just wow. I think I'm gonna try SARMs.

Anonymous 15387

>>15355
Doesn't that turn you infertile?

Anonymous 15396

>>15387
No, it might make your period gone for a few weeks/months than it returns to normal.

Anonymous 15414

>>15358
> being capable of lifting up a massive piece of furniture a man wasn't able to. <.<

wow that's pretty awesome ngl

those arms look pretty strong
how much can you curl doing dumbells?

Anonymous 15439

>>13453
she's natural, her delts are relatively small compared to the rest of her physique

Anonymous 15441

>>15414
only 45 pounds at the moment, but that's the biggest weight I have. always have to remind myself that some of the best old weight lifters just looked chunky, lol.

Anonymous 15442

>>15441
curling 45 with one hand is insane! how many reps can you do?

Anonymous 15461

>>15358
>>15441

are you doing powerlifting or bodybuilding?

Anonymous 15497

>>15441
did you ever mogged dudes like this girl?
https://www.instagram.com/p/CcgqlsTgiGx/

Anonymous 15660

>>13442

can we get an update?

Anonymous 15675

>>15660
Seconded

Anonymous 15947

>>15497
I don't get it.
The guy could obviously lift it.
Where is the joke or mog?

Anonymous 15962

>>13442
I wish I knew where to find an anavar dealer.

Anonymous 15975

>>15497
lol what is this. pretty sure her whole page is a joke

Anonymous 16081

Ugh, I want to get super buff, but I also don't want to take roids.

My body is unfair really.

Anonymous 16089

>>16081
>don't want to take roids
Actually why? You don't need to jump on high doses of heavy stuff.
Any way my advice would be to optimise exercises, my ex(who was a trainer) always told me that if you want muscle go for 6-12 reps with 3 series. If you can do more you are not lifting enough. The last rep possible rep should always be in this range.

Generally a lot of girls tend to do meme exercises for years, which discourages them because the results are quite bad.



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