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Anonymous 6538

Is the body positive movement coming to an end? More and more people seem to be changing their mind again about sexiness of certain types of bodies


"Nothing has changed in how most people feel about themselves; instead, it’s simply become very gauche to articulate any of those negative feelings"

Anonymous 6541

>A lot of people are genuinely sick of being pushed to feel bad about themselves all the time, and they probably also don’t want to expend the energy required to performatively love themselves in the body positivity mode preferred by the idea’s advocates online.
>They probably just want to buy and use soap that works, have access to clothing in their size, and not think about their physical selves so much. They also probably don’t want to be denied job opportunities or refused lifesaving medical care because of what they look like. None of that requires a body wash brand to weigh in on anyone’s self-worth, and maybe the most helpful thing brands could do for all of us is shut the fuck up.
This puts it so succinctly. This shit was fake from the start, and I was always annoyed with it.
Making women feel good about their own bodies was never the agenda. It was all about making them feel like they're curing their own insecurity by buying even more shit from the same corporations that made them insecure in the first place.
Performative self-love and vanity "even when you're ugly!!!" is nothing but a worthless cope. People need to stop LARPing that they are conventionally attractive when they know they're not. We all know it, and pretending it's not true helps no one but the delusional.

I feel like the process of ending self-hate needs to come from drastically altering our society and media's treatment of the female form. We need less of a woman's physical form being considered some sort of commodity that must align with certain tenets to be deemed presentable, and more of it as a mere vessel for the mind that can be picked and prodded as the owner pleases (or not at all). The moment "beauty" becomes about self-expression, as unpredictable and wild as that may be, the more "freedom" people will feel within their own skin. The body as a canvas, and each owner free to paint whatever they want (or leave it blank, if they don't give a fuck) should be a normalized concept. There should be no hardlined "pretty" or "ugly" categories, just "This speaks to me in a certain way", and then a frank explanation of how it "speaks". We should start to see people's outer forms the same way we see abstract paintings.

The message shouldn't be "Beauty is no longer just thin, white, rich women! Sometimes, you fat, nonwhite, poor women can also get a piece of this measly, constricting pie! In fact, you were wrong to think you ever couldn't! Celebrate and buy from us, the ones who first made it a rule that you couldn't!", but "Beauty is the most honest expression of self. It can't be defined or commodified in a single way any more than a person's natural body odor or their DNA can. You can't have someone else's exact smell or their DNA. Strive to look like no one and nothing but your own visions, no matter how that manifests". That probably won't happen, though, because you can't bottle individuality and sell it the same way you can sell cookie cut-outs.

Anonymous 6545

Was it ever much of a movement? It's one of those things I saw in online articles every now and again but nothing in reality.

Anonymous 6546

I think this idea that everything is beautiful is harmful. I've always been considered unattractive, and often people will comment on my biggest flaw and say it makes me "unique". I wish they'd just not point it out at all. I also get comments like "[Your friend] is more attractive but you have a better personality", as if being unattractive is something I have to balance out with other perks. I hate this trend of going around praising, let's say, someone's stretch marks or scars. They're not beautiful and that's okay. Let flaws exist without sugarcoating them out of existence. The idea is that we all HAVE to be beautiful to have value. Instead, why not admit that some things aren't pretty, but that doesn't make you any less valuable? Let me be ugly. Let other women be fat and stretchmarked. Stop pretending it's the end of the world if someone isn't beautiful.

Anonymous 6548

I agree with this. I personally don't value beauty and it's surprising how much other people do.

Anonymous 6549

I get what you're saying and agree but
>tfw weirdo who actually finds a lot of atypical features aesthetically pleasing like squishy bellies and acne
Not that I talk to people enough to compliment them anyway lel. Would it just be best to avoid it if given the chance? What do if I get an s/o with some unconventional traits?

Anonymous 6553


Morbidly obese models wearing too much makeup are out. The new "woke" movement is trannies, who all have perfect, surgically enhanced, bodies.
Keep up anons.

Anonymous 6554

Nothing. This is like having a seduction style of genuinely caring about someone's life, wanting them to improve and be happy. It's called being a respecting and caring person. Have pride anon.

Anonymous 6867

blessed post

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