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Please address rampant anorectal violence & misinformation. Anonymous 5009

Blatantly injurious erotic anorectal violence—any anoreceptive activity involving a combination of rapid thrusting, considerable girth, and a prolonged duration—is rampant worldwide, facilitated by widespread (willful) ignorance, apathy, and misinformation. It is impossible for resultant injuries and serious/chronic/permanent anorectal health consequences to be uncommon due to the region's fragility relating to its anatomy and neuromuscular physiology [References: Anorectal Risks 1-3]. When more than one person is involved such violence should therefore constitute a severe crime for any penetrative person—especially if significant mental pathology, a strong judgment-impairing drug, etc. are involved.

Pornography featuring anorectal violence can have numerous effects on some viewers. It may serve as inspiration for their own activities, condition them to be aroused by suffering, and contribute to development of related mental pathology: sexual sadism disorder, sexual masochism disorder, and perhaps even psychopathy for younger individuals [References: Trends & Associations]. People with such inclinations, some affiliated with pornography companies, are having a field day with such violence and spreading disinformation. That unrestrained hedonism is promoting societal decadence.

Governments worldwide have not addressed those matters effectively, and many people are suffering as a result. First and foremost, educational systems under their purview are failing to adequately and accurately educate people about anorectal anatomy, physiology, health, and especially the traumatic risks of anoreceptive activities. Secondly, governments are failing to rein in out-of-control pornography industries over which they have jurisdiction. Lastly, for people who both 1) harm others for profit and 2) inspire countless viewers, governments are failing to ensure that they face severe criminal consequences: Some viewers are inspired to the point of emulation, even using coercion.

Anonymous 5010

>>5009
You could just say anal

Anonymous 5011

>>5010
Sure I could, but I don't. "Anorectal" is more accurate. The length of the anatomical anal canal, which is the portion covered by anoderm extending up to the dentate line, is very short. "Anal" intercourse often affects the region beyond the dentate line lacking in both somatic innervation (i.e., damage elicits no pain sensations) and tissue resistant to abrasion and tearing resulting from significant, repeated shearing (frictional sliding) force.

Anonymous 5012

>>5011
People don’t think prairie dogs are literally canines and anorectal doesn’t actually convey the health risks better than anal. Using anorectal here only makes you seem autistic without conveying any additional meaning besides your disgust

Anonymous 5013

>>5012
1. Accuracy matters. Regardless, this argument over semantics (word choice) is a waste of time.
2. As I have pointed out countless times before, ultimately this is not about me. See also the text covering logically-fallacious diversionary tactics in the OP image. I will not discuss anything about myself in particular. The matters which are covered in the original post apply to many people and to societies worldwide.

Anonymous 5014

>>5013
I’m not actually disagreeing to you, I’m just being mean because I think it’s funny and you’re a doofus who doesn’t know how to communicate

Anonymous 5015

>>5014
Disagreeing with you*

Anonymous 5016

>>5014
Thanks for sharing your opinion.

Anonymous 5017

>>5016
You do realize what you’re proposing is politically impossible putting aside any other argument right? Neither criminalizing anal or making people liable for damage inflicted via anal is possible outside a blanket sodomy ban in religious countries and even then it’s not likely that it would be prosecuted when it involves straight men

Anonymous 5018

criminal justice.p…

>>5017
> what you’re proposing is politically impossible
That is not true. In some cases there already are applicable laws that are not being enforced. The image is related.
> criminalizing anal
That is a red herring. This thread is about anorectal violence in particular, not simply any anoreceptive activity. And even then, so far as anoreceptive violence is concerned, I pointed out that "When more than one person is involved such violence should therefore constitute a severe crime for any penetrative person—especially if significant mental pathology, a strong judgment-impairing drug, etc. are involved." Note the part about _when more than one person is involved._
> blanket sodomy ban in religious countries
Those are even more red herrings:
1. Nowhere was sodomy (a term that can include more than anoreceptive activities) mentioned.
2. Religion is completely irrelevant aside from one single mention in the Wikipedia critique:

"The article about anal sex lacks a neutral point of view — a required element of Wikipedia's philosophy. It fails to present even one _scientific_ opposing perspective, giving readers without exposure to balanced sources the impression that opposition is limited to irrational religious positions."

Anonymous 5019

ok Op but then why does it feel good

Anonymous 5020

>>5019
This but unironically

Anonymous 5021

>>5019
> ok Op but then why does it feel good
That is rather vague.

1. What activity do you mean by "it?" Anorectal violence as defined, or some other anoreceptive activity? In the case of the latter, especially for something such as anilingus, it may not be relevant in light of what was posted about in the OP.
2. If you're talking about an activity involving more than one person, then for whom does it feel good? A receptive person? A penetrative person? Both?

In any case, not everything that feels good is healthy / should be done. Furthermore, some people derive pleasure from pain/injury due to a (self-)destructive mental disorder. Sexual sadism disorder involves the derivation of pleasure from another person's pain or injury. Sexual masochism disorder involves the derivation of pleasure from one's own pain or injury. When an activity involves significant injury or a possibility thereof, then that certainly should be a cause for concern — especially when such an activity has become very prevalent and even socially-acceptable.

Anonymous 5022

trends & associati…

Aside from material documenting related trends on the left side of the included image (part of the referenced compilation), there is more content along the same lines out there. Some of it originates from Melinda Tankard Reist (MTR); she has written several relevant articles. However, she is a Christian, and so she may be anti-pornography for one thing. She may perhaps even seek to eliminate it entirely, which is likely to be an impossible goal. A better and more realistic idea is doing something about those who maliciously perpetrate significant erotic violence against others along with those who direct such activities and/or profit from them (e.g. some pornography company directors and executives). Of course, that would involve attempting reform rather than elimination, and some people may actually want pornography in general to look as bad as possible so they can lump it all together and make a stronger case against every kind of it, violent and non-violent alike.

Anyway, here are some of MTR's articles (Note: ABC.Net.AU has a combined "Religion & Ethics" subsection even though they are separate concepts):

https://mercatornet.com/big_porn_inc/12491/ (Oct 11, 2011)
https://melindatankardreist.com/2015/04/what-no-one-wants-to-talk-about-how-girls-bodies-are-injured-by-porn-using-boys/
https://www.abc.net.au/religion/growing-up-in-pornland-girls-have-had-it-with-porn-conditioned-b/10097244 (7 Mar 2016)
https://www.abc.net.au/religion/consent-education-does-not-stand-a-chance-against-pornography/13231364 (9 Mar 2021)
https://mercatornet.com/online-pornography-is-the-worlds-biggest-department-of-education/71157/ (Mar 31, 2021)

Anonymous 5023

why do some women even enjoy anal? i mean we don't have prostates so it's literally useless and extremely harmful for us. in moids it at least feels good

Anonymous 5024

>>5023
Some (probably even far too many) women endure anoreceptive activities such as anorectal intercourse, and may even feign enjoyment, in order to please a partner.

That said, pleasurable feelings may arise for some receptive women due to various factors. One potential factor that was already pointed out is sexual masochism disorder; there may be other potential sources of pleasure as well. Regardless, as was also noted previously: not everything that feels good is healthy / should be done. Pleasure ultimately is a side issue distracting attention away from other topics. (In other words, the question is not "Does it feel good?" Rather, the question is "Should it be done at all?" The answer for many anoreceptive activities is a definite "No.")

Anonymous 5025

>>5009
> As of 2021/05/15 and for far too many years prior, several related English-language Wikipedia articles have had major & inexcusable flaws
> Those flaws contribute to rampant anorectal violence and misinformation facilitating it.
Why are these major, glaring issues going unaddressed for so many years?
>>5022
Here are even more articles (I can't reasonably fit everything into T&A as an image without making major changes to it, e.g. increasing the resolution and having it consist of three columns of text, creating a separate "Trends" collection and splitting out or dropping the "Associations" portion, etc.):
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/study-reports-anal-sex-on-rise-among-teens/story?id=6428003 (December 10, 2008)
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/anal-sex-heterosexual-couples-report_n_1190440
Anal Sex More Popular Than Possibly Expected Among Heterosexual Couples: Center for Disease Control and Prevention Report (2012/01/06)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20042508
Should children be taught that porn is not real? (2012/10/24)
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2013/apr/28/pornography-everywhere-changing-feelings-sex
Pornography is everywhere, and I think it's changing how we feel about sex (2013/04/28)
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/college-campuses-anal-sex_n_4892105
The Latest Rage On College Campuses Is Apparently Anal Sex (2014/03/04)
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/mother-tongue/11554595/Pornography-has-changed-the-landscape-of-adolescence-beyond-all-recognition.html
Pornography has changed the landscape of adolescence beyond all recognition (2015/04/22)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/04/08/is-porn-immoral-that-doesnt-matter-its-a-public-health-crisis/
https://www.vox.com/conversations/2017/6/27/15873072/google-porn-addiction-america-everybody-lies

Anonymous 5026

>>5023
Not big on anal alone but plugs add extra pressure during normal sex which honestly feels good. Helps to not date a retard who thinks it's okay to put things in there fast and dry.

Anonymous 5027

>>5026
big disagree, the feeling of having a stopped up shit in your ass while being vaginally fucked is awful, sounds awful and i refuse to belive this isn't porno-informed subconsciously

Anonymous 5028

>>5023
Anal is just fucking gross in general.

Anonymous 5029

There are literally nerve endings that extend between the clitoris and the anus.

Anonymous 5030

anorectal risks 1.…

>>5025
> Why are these major, glaring issues going unaddressed for so many years?
Well?
>>5029
> There are literally nerve endings that extend between the clitoris and the anus.
1. That is a rather vague claim leaving plenty of room for interpretation (read about weasel words).
2. The burden of proof is on the claimant.
3. Again:
>>5024
> Pleasure ultimately is a side issue distracting attention away from other topics. (In other words, the question is not "Does it feel good?" Rather, the question is "Should it be done at all?" The answer for many anoreceptive activities is a definite "No.")
>>5009
> The human anorectum is very unsuited for many all-too-common receptive activities due to the region's anatomy and physiology. The single short-term benefit, _potential_ pleasure, is greatly outweighed by the many short- and long-term health risks to a receptive person. [Rationale: Anorectal Risks 1-3]

Anonymous 5031

>>5030
>>5030
how long have you been posting this? i've come across you on three different chans, just curious how long you've been at this and why your specific focus is on anal. i completely agree with you btw.

Anonymous 5032


Anonymous 5033

>>5009
> widespread […] misinformation
> People with such inclinations, some affiliated with pornography companies, are having a field day […] spreading disinformation.
This PDF is related: https://web.archive.org/web/202106/https://files.catbox.moe/hr3fl1.pdf (reddit bullshit & omission; see the description at the top)

As for rampant anorectal violence, these subreddits which clearly are in violation of Reddit's policy* concerning violent content (yet strangely still persist despite that) are relevant. They certainly do not lack for content (and there are MANY more subreddits along the same lines that I could include): /r/painal /r/Roughanal /r/DegradingHoles /r/alteredbuttholes

* "Do not post content that encourages, glorifies, incites, or calls for violence or physical harm against an individual (including oneself) or a group of people" https://www.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/360043513151 [accessed 2021/05/25]

Anonymous 5034

>porn subreddits allowed to ignore typical Reddit rules
Don’t tell anon about the trans policy on female degradation porn subs vs women’s issue ones

Anonymous 5035

The text covering logically-fallacious diversionary tactics is included in the OP image for a very good reason. Anyway…
>>5018
> In some cases there already are applicable [criminal] laws that are not being enforced.
In those cases many people need to ask various questions such as: Who was in a position to enforce those laws—particularly against blatantly obvious serial perpetrators of anorectal violence against others—and why did they fail at this responsibility? These questions are especially important when considering that enforcement is* time-sensitive due to various factors such as perpetrator/accessory relocation.
>>5009
> Lastly, for people who both 1) harm others for profit and 2) inspire countless viewers, governments are failing to ensure that they face severe criminal consequences: Some viewers are inspired to the point of emulation, even using coercion.
Looked at objectively, especially serial perpetrators of violence—along with those who direct their actions and/or profit from their violent behavior such as scene directors and corporate executives (i.e., a criminal accessory)—against others who inspire countless viewers need to be punished severely, AND SHOWN TO BE. That is because their violent atrocities against others may continue to inspire some viewers for many years and even decades afterward. If it is demonstrated that such people will not escape justice (even justice dispensed without government involvement — by any means necessary), then that might be sufficient to dissuade many would-be violent criminals. Psychopaths, for all else that they lack—including empathy for others, remorse about harming others, and a conscience—may still have a sense of self-preservation.

* Barring extremely-unlikely imposition of relevant criminal laws that not only are instituted worldwide to account for relocation, but _also_ are made applicable retroactively to cover previously-produced material that continues to inspire some viewers (again, in some cases even decades later)

Anonymous 5036

anorectal risks 2.…

Here's the traumatic risks summary from the OP image:

Traumatic risks of human anoreceptive activities include inflammation, abrasion and tearing, muscle and connective tissue damage, and colorectal perforation. Sequelae may arise, such as hemorrhage/hematoma, hemorrhoidal disease, ulceration, bacterial infection followed by abscess / fistula / life-threatening systemic sepsis, rectal prolapse, fecal incontinence, anal skin tag (remnant of external hemorrhoidal thrombosis, scar tissue from a healed tear, or a sentinel tag for a chronic anal fissure), and anatomic stenosis (narrowing due to constricting scar tissue). One instance of trauma can lead to multiple complications. Cumulative damage and preexisting conditions are concerns as well.

~2cm beyond the anal opening at the pectinate/dentate line, the epithelium transitions from stratified squamous (anoderm) to a simple columnar mucosal lining in part of the narrow surgical anal canal, continuing along the rectum. That lining is very fragile and easily damaged especially if its mucus barrier is removed by an enema or otherwise impaired. Furthermore, some enemas and lubricants can inflame the lining and even cause it to slough off entirely. Injury to that lining alone elicits no pain sensations due to a lack of somatic innervation, so resultant problems may remain undetected absent one or more obvious symptoms.

Neuromuscular physiology also contributes to anorectal fragility particularly for girthy and vigorous insertions, which are objectively foolish and very likely to be significantly injurious. The involuntary internal anal sphincter relaxes with rectal distension. The puborectalis and external sphincter completely relax when a person bears down, causing hemorrhoidal cushions to engorge and become more susceptible to injury by shear (frictional sliding) force.

Anonymous 5037

anatomy & trauma.p…

And here's the Wikipedia critique, updated slightly ("biological" qualifiers were added and the "as of" date was bumped):

As of 2021/06/06 and for far too many years prior, several related English-language Wikipedia articles have had major & inexcusable flaws, including these:
• The article about the human anus has an image of a human female's anus and perineum that probably were damaged by some kind of major trauma. Biological human females beyond developmental stages in the womb should lack an externally-visible perineal raphe, or seamlike union/ridge, in the anogenital region between the anus and the vagina; the bulbospongiosus muscle is separated in them and does not form a persistent, visible midline raphe as it may in biological males [References: Anatomy & Trauma].
• The article about simple columnar epithelium explains nothing about its fragility nor lack of somatic innervation (for pain sensitivity).

The article about anal sex …
• lacks a neutral point of view — a required element of Wikipedia's philosophy. It fails to present even one _scientific_ opposing perspective, giving readers without exposure to balanced sources the impression that opposition is limited to irrational religious positions. One such scientific perspective: The human anorectum is very unsuited for many all-too-common receptive activities due to the region's anatomy and physiology. The single short-term benefit, _potential_ pleasure, is greatly outweighed by the many short- and long-term health risks to a receptive person. [Rationale: Anorectal Risks 1-3]
• fails to mention the normalization of injurious anoreceptive violence in pornography featuring real people.
• does not point out that "hemorrhoid" is an ambiguous term, sometimes referring to pathology and other times to normal anatomy.
• contains a logically-fallacious appeal to nature: "natural" is not necessarily good or desirable, nor is "unnatural" necessarily the inverse.

Those flaws contribute to rampant anorectal violence and misinformation facilitating it.

Anonymous 5038

>>5036
>>5037
can you not edit the wikipedia article yourself? i'm not exacting and autistic enough to edit wiki articles, but you sound like you'd be good at it and it'd kill two birds with one stone

Anonymous 5039

>>5013
> As I have pointed out countless times before, ultimately this is not about me. See also the text covering logically-fallacious diversionary tactics in the OP image. I will not discuss anything about myself in particular.

> I will not discuss anything about myself in particular.

Perhaps that was not the wisest statement to make in hindsight, but it was made.

> The matters which are covered in the original post apply to many people and to societies worldwide.

Many people and societies worldwide therefore should address those matters seriously and effectively. The pasted text in the OP should provide sufficiently significant justification for serious and effective action. Then there's all of that material from others in Trends & Associations, not to mention many articles pasted in this thread.

Anonymous 5040

>>5035
> Looked at objectively, especially serial perpetrators of violence—along with those who direct their actions and/or profit from their violent behavior such as scene directors and corporate executives (i.e., a criminal accessory)—against others who inspire countless viewers need to be punished severely, AND SHOWN TO BE. That is because their violent atrocities against others may continue to inspire some viewers for many years and even decades afterward. If it is demonstrated that such people will not escape justice (even justice dispensed without government involvement — by any means necessary), then that might be sufficient to dissuade many would-be violent criminals. Psychopaths, for all else that they lack—including empathy for others, remorse about harming others, and a conscience—may still have a sense of self-preservation.
In the heterosexual pornography world at least, individuals such as Rocco Siffredi established a reputation for inflicting brutal anorectal violence against many victims — for which, apparently, neither he nor many like him have ever been criminally and severely prosecuted. Note that English Wikipedia's current article about Rocco Siffredi says nothing about his penchant for brutal anorectal violence (a major omission since he became well-known for such behavior), criminal prosecution by any government, nor punishment by some other means (e.g. someone taking justice into his or her own hands). The article is entirely too positive, flattering, and light-hearted considering that it's covering someone who has undeniably contributed greatly to the suffering of many others along with societal decadence arising from blatant injustice, inspiring far too many people to emulate his violent behavior, and more factors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocco_Siffredi

Anonymous 5041

>>5037
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Simple_columnar_epithelium&action=history
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Perineal_raphe&action=history
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Human_anus&action=history
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anal_sex&action=history
> The article about the human anus has an image of a human female's anus and perineum that probably were damaged by some kind of major trauma. Biological human females beyond developmental stages in the womb should lack an externally-visible perineal raphe, or seamlike union/ridge, in the anogenital region between the anus and the vagina; the bulbospongiosus muscle is separated in them and does not form a persistent, visible midline raphe as it may in biological males [References: Anatomy & Trauma].
Another issue, covered in the past, is present once again:

The article about the perineal raphe asserts that both males and females have a visible perineal raphe arising from fusion of the urogenital folds. No cited source supports that claim.

Anonymous 5042

lol anal is gross. Rose budding is a crime against nature.

I don’t even know how women gaslight themselves into thinking anal feels good.

Tried it several times like how you’re supposed to and nope. It’s horrid. i guess that’s why only prostates get pleasure from it.
Srsly tho don’t stick anything bigger than a turd up there tho. It really can’t be good for you.

Anonymous 5043

>>5041
> The article about the perineal raphe asserts that both males and females have a visible perineal raphe arising from fusion of the urogenital folds. No cited source supports that claim.
Here is what English Wikipedia's article on the perineal raphe currently claims:

"The perineal raphe is a visible line or ridge of tissue on the body that extends from the anus through the perineum. It is found in both males and females, arises from the fusion of the urogenital folds, and is visible running medial through anteroposterior, to the anus where it resolves in a small knot of skin of varying size."

There is not one reference provided for anything in that paragraph. Further down it's stated that "This article incorporates text in the public domain from page 1237 of the 20th edition of Gray's Anatomy (1918)." Looking at page 1237 right now in the PDF version of the book, it's part of a subsection titled "The Testes and Their Coverings." It is talking about a scrotal raphe. There is no mention whatsoever of a visible anterior/anogenital perineal raphe in [biological] females, not on that page nor any page nearby. Moreover, the word "visible" here could be considered vague and a weasel word: Visible to what? The naked eye? MRI? X-ray? Endosonography? Etc.

Anonymous 5044

>>5043
Here is the paragraph from page 1237 mentioning a raphe:

"The Scrotum is a cutaneous pouch which contains the testes and parts of the spermatic cords. It is divided on its surface into two lateral portions by a ridge or raphe, which is continued forward to the under surface of the penis, and backward, along the middle line of the perineum to the anus. Of these two lateral portions the left hangs lower than the right, to correspond with the greater length of the left spermatic cord. Its external aspect varies under different circumstances: thus, under the influence of warmth, and in old and debilitated persons, it becomes elongated and flaccid; but, under the influence of cold, and in the young and robust, it is short, corrugated, and closely applied to the testes."

Other parts of the book mention a raphe in various regions of the body. On page 423 it discusses an anococcygeal raphe between the anus and the coccyx [tailbone]. Some studies call that posterior/anococcygeal raphe the levator plate; here are a few:
"Female Pelvic Floor Anatomy: The Pelvic Floor, Supporting Structures, and Pelvic Organs." Reviews in Urology. 2004; 6(Suppl 5): S2-S10. PMC1472875.
"MR imaging-based assessment of the female pelvic floor." Radiographics. 2014 Sep-Oct; 34(5): 1417-39. doi:10.1148/rg.345140137. (PMID 25208288)

If anyone would like more studies discussing the levator plate / anococcygeal raphe, just ask.

Anonymous 5045

>>5043
> Here is what English Wikipedia's article on the perineal raphe currently claims
A large and noticeable midline anogenital ridge most certainly is NOT normal anatomy at least for biological females outside of the womb. A "knot of skin of varying size" (a lump in other words) near the anal verge is not normal anatomy either. Rather, both of those are likely to be a result of trauma or perhaps an STI (although there are more and probably rarer possibilities, such as a congenital condition).

It is very likely that those claims to the contrary in Wikipedia's current article about the perineal raphe constitute disinformation. That is, false information (misinformation) was intentionally introduced so that people can refer someone else to the article while saying something like, "Look! What you have is normal!" That also applies for Wikipedia's current article about the human anus article and its image of a female human's anus (although that's a false representation of normal anatomy rather than false information).

And to be absolutely clear and unambiguous: My usage of the word "normal" above is in accordance with the biological/medical meaning, which is not synonymous with "common."

Anonymous 5046

>>5045
> Wikipedia's current article about the human anus article
That's one article too many. Oops.

Anonymous 5047

I can't believe the anorectal violence spammer from lolcow found their home here and actually caused a civilized discussion. For once I hope this doesn't get deleted lmao

Anonymous 5048

>>5047
I'm still confused as shit but I'm glad to see them still posting. Would love to know the kind of person who spams info on the negatives of getting banged in the ass on not one, not two, but more than 5 anon sites

Anonymous 5049

Imagine being obsessed with proving how bad anal is. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t disagree with with OP. I just think it’s funny.

Anonymous 5050

OP, if you're reading this, is your goal to spread awareness or are you actively trying to end anal?

Anonymous 5051

>>5047
They're originally from 4chan, probably a guy.

Anonymous 5052

>>5013
> As I have pointed out countless times before, ultimately this is not about me. See also the text covering logically-fallacious diversionary tactics in the OP image. I will not discuss anything about myself in particular. The matters which are covered in the original post apply to many people and to societies worldwide.
The text below is included in the OP image for at least one very good reason.

Logically-fallacious diversionary tactics:

• A red herring logical fallacy is a tangential topic introduced as a distraction. One _very_ common example is trying to create an irrelevant discussion about a messenger/claimant (often by introducing alleged personal attributes or asking about unstated opinions).
• An ad hominem logical fallacy is an argument or implication that at least one supposed characteristic about a messenger or source somehow affects the validity of one or more claims presented when any such characteristic is completely irrelevant — and this is nonsensical for cases in which information originates from others. (Sometimes such characteristics potentially _can be_ relevant: for example, it may be appropriate to question a person's honesty when she makes a claim about herself or her own experiences. However, the anecdotal evidence logical fallacy may apply in that situation.)
• Misrepresentation, or introducing a distorted version of something that is presented, is another form of red herring. Attacking such a fabrication as a means to suggest refutal of what was actually presented constitutes a straw man logical fallacy. (A refutation with one or more vague, sweeping claims for which no proof is provided may be related. The burden of proof rests on the claimant, so offering constructive criticism is a good idea: clear and specific, with citations if applicable.)

Purposely and repeatedly trying to divert attention away from anorectal anatomy and physiology, rampant anorectal abuse, associated traumatic risks, and an epidemic of ignorance and misinformation is suggestive of a nefarious agenda and/or psychopathy.

Anonymous 5053

>>5009 >>11471 >>5037 >>11675 >>5041 >>11768 >>5045
Rather than focusing on major issues with Wikipedia articles, perhaps focus should instead be on major problems with Wikipedia itself. It has a neutrality problem[1] according to Larry Sanger, a co-founder of the site. There is some evidence[2][3][4] supporting the notion that it is a tool of moneyed/nefarious interests using it to spread disinformation and present biased viewpoints. There also is evidence[5][6] that at least one person in charge at Wikipedia potentially had, and may still have, pornography industry connections: namely another co-founder, Jimmy Wales, with a previous venture called Bomis.

It is important to consider the possibility that nefarious informational manipulation is occurring at least when potential loss of a considerable amount of money is at stake, not to mention loss of freedom due to criminal justice being served. It seems no one ever has seriously attempted to address those major issues that were pointed out. Such glaring oversights might be considered strange especially when said issues have existed for many years now (with a few transient exceptions) and attention has repeatedly been drawn to them. Of course, this apparent inaction could well be due to the embarrassing/stigmatic nature of the topics involved rather than a conspiracy to eliminate any evidence of serious attempts to make changes which present a danger to the unchecked continuation of certain interests' malicious activities.

In any case, maybe more effort should be aimed at convincing educators and governments to take action en masse. Suitable changes to Wikipedia may follow and would conceivably be more likely to persist following such action.


1. https://larrysanger.org/2020/05/wikipedia-is-badly-biased/
2. https://www.businessinsider.com.au/wikipedia-marketing-2013-1
3. https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/08/wikipedia-editors-for-pay/393926/
4. https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/wikipedia-paid-editing-pr-facebook-nbc-axios_n_5c63321be4b03de942967225
5. https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/30/magazine/jimmy-wales-is-not-an-internet-billionaire.html
6. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bomis

Anonymous 5054

>>5053
omg it's anus-kun from lolcow.
OP spammed LC about anorectal violence for a like a month earlier this year, he hates anal because he has a huge fetish for intact assholes

Anonymous 5055

>>5054
i thought he used to be or is into anal and gaping but realized the error of his ways? he said it's bc he's into intact anuses?

Anonymous 5056

>>5054
>>5055
>intact assholes
guys my butthole is ugly. what can i do? it has a flesh colored puff that's been there for like 10 years.

Anonymous 5057

>>5052
> A red herring logical fallacy is a tangential topic introduced as a distraction. One _very_ common example is trying to create an irrelevant discussion about a messenger/claimant (often by introducing alleged personal attributes or asking about unstated opinions).
https://iep.utm.edu/fallacy/#RedHerring
> Purposely and repeatedly trying to divert attention away from anorectal anatomy and physiology, rampant anorectal abuse, associated traumatic risks, and an epidemic of ignorance and misinformation is suggestive of a nefarious agenda and/or psychopathy.
>>5056
This thread is not a place to ask for medical advice or opinions.

Recap:
• Blatantly injurious erotic anorectal violence—involving a combination of rapid thrusting, a girthy penis/object, and a prolonged duration—is rampant worldwide. It is impossible for resultant anal and rectal injuries and serious/chronic/permanent health consequences to be uncommon due to anorectal fragility relating to anatomy and neuromuscular physiology.
• Widespread (willful) ignorance, apathy, misinformation, and disinformation are facilitating rampant anorectal violence. Several Wikipedia articles that I mentioned have for far too many years been contributing to that problem due to major and inexcusable flaws.
• People with (self-)destructive inclinations, some affiliated with pornography companies, are having a field day with anorectal violence and spreading disinformation.
• Watching violent pornography can have numerous effects on some viewers (including inspiring them to the point of emulation, even using coercion).
• Pornography is being used as a substitute for sexual education in some cases.
• There are, or most certainly should be, criminal implications for people who perpetrate anorectal violence against one or more others. Furthermore, various factors on their own or combined can invalidate consent from a legal perspective; these include the possibility or actual result of serious injury, use of a strong mind-altering drug, and the presence of a significant mental disorder such as a severe case of sexual masochism disorder.

Anonymous 5058

584A2865-B522-461F…

Is OP really trying to write a schizo-dissertation on anal damage due to too much sexual stimulation while none of the references actually being scholarly sources?

I mean, I agree but at least try and use pubmd.
Here, I’ll help. Here are some good sites for researching free full length text scholarly articles:
https://core.ac.uk/
http://network.bepress.com/
https://unpaywall.org/products/extension
https://scholar.google.com/

Come back with credible sources, my friend.
FYI, Wikipedia isn’t a reference though you can use the references at the bottom of the article itself if you actually happen to find anything worthwhile.

Anonymous 5059

>>5058
> Is OP
Wow, you introduced a red herring right after a post mentioning the red herring logical fallacy. You (along with others) also seem to have ignored what was pointed out numerous times in this thread.
> none of the references actually being scholarly sources
Plenty of peer-reviewed studies are included in the referenced compilation. Parts of that compilation were included in this thread as images: Trends & Associations, Anorectal Risks 1, Anorectal Risks 2, and Anatomy & Trauma.
> Wikipedia isn’t a reference
Plenty of people use it as such, at least for a brief overview. They shouldn't, of course, but that doesn't change the fact that they do. That is why inaccuracies, especially major and glaring inaccuracies (which just might constitute disinformation) for important topics applicable to many people, need to be addressed.

Anonymous 5060

>>5058
he's completely right tho

Anonymous 5061

>>5060
I’ll have you know I’m female, thank you very much

Anonymous 5062

8C473AA8-A5E7-4A5E…

>>5059
okay wow I don’t know if like you totally read what I wrote completely but like I actually agree with you.
I’m actually trying to help.
Don’t be so butthurt.

Anonymous 5063

Vlcsnap-2012-12-01…

Finally some internet wisedom I can show my bf if he asks for anorectal intercourse again. This will be way more effective than those Hugh Neutron memes I showed him for history purposes.

Anonymous 5064

28E46287-EA8D-4EFB…

>>5062
>butthurt

Anonymous 5065

anorectal risks 3.…

>>5060
This is not a matter of one lone person being right or wrong when there are many sources referenced. If everything in e.g. the traumatic risks summary is backed up by said sources, then the question is whether each source is right or not. The traumatic risks summary is independently supported by three separate quote collections, Anorectal Risks 1 through 3, which include many medical studies and medical books.
>>5040
> In the heterosexual pornography world at least, individuals such as Rocco Siffredi established a reputation for inflicting brutal anorectal violence against many victims — for which, apparently, neither he nor many like him have ever been criminally and severely prosecuted. Note that English Wikipedia's current article about Rocco Siffredi says nothing about his penchant for brutal anorectal violence (a major omission since he became well-known for such behavior), criminal prosecution by any government, nor punishment by some other means (e.g. someone taking justice into his or her own hands). The article is entirely too positive, flattering, and light-hearted considering that it's covering someone who has undeniably contributed greatly to the suffering of many others along with societal decadence arising from blatant injustice, inspiring far too many people to emulate his violent behavior, and more factors.
>>5018
> In some cases there already are applicable [criminal] laws that are not being enforced.
>>5035
In those cases many people need to ask various questions such as: Who was in a position to enforce those laws—particularly against blatantly obvious serial perpetrators of anorectal violence against others—and why did they fail at this responsibility? These questions are especially important when considering that enforcement is* time-sensitive due to various factors such as perpetrator/accessory relocation.
Since it is July 4th, it is a fitting time to point out that two people who appear to have failed to rein in an out-of-control pornography industry when they were in a position to do so are Kamala Harris and Xavier Becerra, both former California Attorneys General who now are part of the Biden administration. Should they not be held accountable for such a failure?

Anonymous 5066

prolapse & inconti…

>>5065
> In those cases many people need to ask […]
That's quoted from 11584, FYI.

Anyway, here is the final image from the compilation along with a summary supported by it included in the OP image:
• Strong, repeated shear force in the anal canal is likely to cause permanent damage to supporting tissues of the internal hemorrhoidal cushions at the least, leading to internal hemorrhoidal prolapse (progressively worsening with cumulative damage from repeated trauma). Since healthy internal and external anal cushions help to maintain fecal continence with a watertight seal, anal canal deformation due to their disease or removal can result in fecal incontinence.

• Internal rectal prolapse (IRP), aka rectal intussusception, is a common finding among asymptomatic individuals. Strong, repeated shear force in the rectum probably does contribute to development of full-thickness external rectal prolapse (aka procidentia) particularly when IRP is present. Internal hemorrhoidal prolapse—among other conditions—also may contribute to rectal prolapse development. Fecal incontinence can be a consequence of rectal prolapse as well.

• Overstretching the anal canal with girthy insertions is likely to cause disruption or fragmentation of one or both anal sphincter muscles, which results in permanent muscle weakening and is associated with fecal incontinence (especially with a damaged or dysfunctional puborectalis muscle). Stretching the anal canal repeatedly with insertions of progressively increasing circumference may cause cumulative muscle damage.

• Trauma—including erotic anoreceptive trauma—can instigate development of numerous other anorectal conditions that may cause or lead to fecal incontinence, including fistulas. Surgical treatments for anorectal conditions also can contribute to development of fecal incontinence.

Anonymous 5067

>>5033
> reddit bullshit & omission [PDF]
> [Text at the top] Examples from Reddit of bullshit typically being upvoted and going unchallenged, along with examples of omission (e.g. no one saying something like “doing that is a bad idea,” pointing out the possibility of a preexisting condition, etc.), can be seen in subreddit threads referenced below. All of the URLs should be archived on archive.is and/or archive.org (and some of the threads, or at least the original posts, are no longer present on Reddit). Notably, Reddit’s /r/sex subreddit has enshrined the “sex-positive” bias into its posting rules.
Those were found here: https://old.reddit.com/search?sort=new&q=anal+subreddit:sex — More recent material along the same lines:
https://old.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/ofeujn/anal_advice_for_first_timers/
https://old.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/ofapol/considering_trying_anal_for_the_first_time/
https://old.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/odhzgg/first_timer_at_anal_with_boyfriend_need_advice/
https://old.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/o6artx/im_not_a_fan_of_lube/
https://old.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/o66g8n/anal_with_a_large_guy/
https://old.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/o4tdan/will_my_anus_get_loose_as_time_goes_by/
https://old.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/o2j9f2/a_few_questions_to_those_who_have_been_fisted/
https://old.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/nwm0e1/is_it_ever_possible_to_do_anal_with_big_girth/
https://old.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/nqn2hg/what_does_make_anal_painful/

Anonymous 5069

>thread moved to a low-activity and _hidden_ board
Hmmm… A change of mind, and of tactics, may be in order. We shall see.

>>5013
> I will not discuss anything about myself in particular.

Anonymous 5071

1.png

Real talk: if you do anal, you should be prepared to do enemas to clean that butt, because all of that shit inside the rectum isn't going away easily.

Put water up butt, rinse, repeat until water comes out crystal clear.

Don't use any soap, plain water is good enough.

Make sure you don't get any air up the butt or it will feel like a fart coming up instead of going out, pretty uncomfortable.

And remember, normally the anus is designed to be an output hole and not an input hole, so be advised about what you want to do with it.

Anonymous 5072

>>5071
>come along, ignore/miss plenty of material in the thread, and post something that contradicts evidence provided previously
Sigh…
> if you do anal
One point made in this thread, in the original post no less, is that "anal" (vague) as it's commonly done often is destructive.
> you should be prepared to do enemas
From the traumatic risks summary in the OP image and post 5036: ~2cm beyond the anal opening at the pectinate/dentate line, the epithelium transitions from stratified squamous (anoderm) to a simple columnar mucosal lining in part of the narrow surgical anal canal, continuing along the rectum. That lining is very fragile and easily damaged especially if its mucus barrier is removed by an enema or otherwise impaired. Furthermore, some enemas and lubricants can inflame the lining and even cause it to slough off entirely. Injury to that lining alone elicits no pain sensations due to a lack of somatic innervation, so resultant problems may remain undetected absent one or more obvious symptoms.
> normally the anus is designed to be an output hole and not an input hole, so be advised about what you want to do with it.
That much is sensible.

Anonymous 5088

>>5013
> I will not discuss anything about myself in particular.
That decision is hereby rescinded at least for this thread now on this board.
>thread moved to a low-activity and _hidden_ board
I had similar experiences on several other sites with threads of mine being bumplocked/anchored, moved to a low-activity or /b/ board (usually from a /pol/ board), etc. Some people out there seem quite intent on ensuring that what I post does not receive wide exposure. I'm not sure that is what's happening here, but suddenly moving my thread to this board from /hb/ is suspect when it was on that board for a while.
>>5037
The Wikipedia critique has been shelved, perhaps permanently. My reasoning for that can be found in >>5053. That being the case, I will no longer bump this thread after the next several posts. I may continue to watch it for a while and may reply to posts from others. Another thread probably will be created on /hb/ eventually, perhaps without the obviously NSFW elements (such as references to subreddits with violent pornography that clearly violate Reddit's policy pertaining to violent content yet somehow still persist).

Anonymous 5089

Slightly modified version of an old post of mine elsewhere:
(Quoting myself)
> At best, anal sex and significant anal-insertive activities accelerate or guarantee the development of anorectal health problems.
That could in theory be untrue if such activities are done with ridiculously excessive care* all the time, every time.

* That includes, but is not limited to: ruling out preexisting anorectal conditions (possibly caused by prior sexual trauma), always using lubricant, avoiding lubricants that irritate/damage the rectal lining, avoiding enemas (all enemas, hyperosmolar or otherwise, probably remove the rectum's protective mucus barrier), always using a condom (particularly in the absence of an enema), never thrusting too rapidly ("too rapid" could vary for different people, at least for the anal tissues), never inserting anything too girthy ("too girthy" also could vary), never using numbing agents (pain indicates that something is wrong — anally [below the dentate line], but not rectally [above the dentate line]), etc.

In practice using ridiculously excessive care is unrealistic — it'd be more of a chore than a pleasure. Furthermore, both ignorance and misinformation are rampant, porn sets a very bad example that some viewers get ideas from, and people with [self-]destructive tendencies are having a field day.

Anonymous 5090

Slightly modified version of an old post of mine elsewhere:
(Quoting myself)
> At best, anal sex and significant anal-insertive activities accelerate or guarantee the development of anorectal health problems.
That could in theory be untrue if such activities are done with ridiculously excessive care* all the time, every time.

* That includes, but is not limited to: ruling out preexisting anorectal conditions (possibly caused by prior sexual trauma), always using lubricant, avoiding lubricants that irritate/damage the rectal lining, avoiding enemas (all enemas, hyperosmolar or otherwise, probably remove the rectum's protective mucus barrier), always using a condom (particularly in the absence of an enema), never thrusting too rapidly ("too rapid" could vary for different people, at least for the anal tissues), never inserting anything too girthy ("too girthy" also could vary), never using numbing agents (pain indicates that something is wrong — anally [below the dentate line], but not rectally [above the dentate line]), etc.

In practice using ridiculously excessive care is unrealistic — it'd be more of a chore than a pleasure. Furthermore, both ignorance and misinformation are rampant, porn sets a very bad example that some viewers get ideas from, and people with [self-]destructive tendencies are having a field day.

Anonymous 5091

>>5090
Duplicate. Please delete.
>>5009
> People with such inclinations, some affiliated with pornography companies, are having a field day with such violence and spreading disinformation. That unrestrained hedonism is promoting societal decadence.
Work-in-progress "decadence" paste:
Rampant anorectal violence is a major problem. It is perhaps one of the greatest contributors to societal decadence today. Rationale:
• Several generations now have grown up masturbating to, demanding more of, and sometimes even emulating violent behavior that should easily be considered severely criminal. Perpetrators of anorectal violence against one or more others, most especially the serial offenders inspiring countless viewers, going unpunished for their violent crimes is a serious problem. Those violent criminals need to be punished severely and shown to be — by ANY means necessary.
• Widespread ignorance (most especially _willful_ ignorance) and apathy about the anus—along with anorectal anatomy, physiology, and health—are enabling people with (self-)destructive tendencies both to have a field day with such violence and to effectively spread disinformation. Again, that unrestrained hedonism is contributing to societal decay, probably very significantly. Because so many people just don't wish to think about, much less seriously discuss anorectal matters, rampant anorectal violence "flies under the radar;" people would rather focus on some other kind of erotic abuse which may not even be anywhere near as dangerous.
• Given the widespread ignorance about what an anus is even supposed to look like, it's often the preferred target of people who like to disfigure body parts. It doesn't help that—despite being one of our most important body parts—the anus typically is not valued very highly, and it commonly is denigrated and intentionally abused (treated in a harmful/injurious manner). That abuse is tolerated, or at least ignored, by far too many people. The vast majority of humanity may never care much at least about another person's anus, meaning that discouraging erotic anoreceptive activities entirely is likely to be the only effective solution.



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