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Anonymous 1619

does anyone else constantly have the feeling that everything you are doing on a smart device is being monitored? im kinda used to it tbh.

Anonymous 1620

It's not a "feeling". You should know for a fact that you are being monitored.

Some steps I've taken
>Only use Signal for private messaging people or talking about any opinions on anything
>Deleted FB
>Use a VPN (ProtonVPN is pretty great)
>Use encrypted email (ProtonMail)
>Only use IG via my browser, on a VPN
>Clear browser cookies after each session

Anonymous 1621

>>1620

Forgot to mention that I avoid Google at all costs and use Startpage as my search engine.

Anonymous 1626

>>1620
i mean yeah, i guess. but what i meant was there being an actual person seeing my screen as we speak. id say thats actually pretty unlikely. companies and governments are a different thing - you are speaking of those, right?

Anonymous 1628

>>1621
Ah its so nice to see someone problematicly paranoid like me. However startpage was sold a while back so maybe you might want to reconsider https://reclaimthenet.org/startpage-buyout-ad-tech-company/

Anonymous 1629

>>1628
I'm not paranoid. I saw that re: startpage. I still use it, granted i do it behind a VPN and also clear all cookies

>>1626
an actual person? That's a little narcissistic of you to assume that one entire person has been assigned to monitor whatever the fuck you do on the internet.

>companies and governments are a different thing - you are speaking of those, right?

yes, I was referring to these.

Anonymous 1638

>>1629
what is fueling your desire to to be so uptight about your privacy, anon? just feeling like doing so ?
it's futile, like it or not your data is going to be collected by complex techniques out of your control or even understanding no matter what.
beside, for an average internet user, they don't give a fuck beside knowing what pr0duct/ service ads you may be interested in.

Anonymous 1639

>>1638
>what is fueling your desire to to be so uptight about your privacy, anon? just feeling like doing so ?
It's not really "uptight". I just don't like when I don't have full control over all information about me, or full knowledge of who knows what about me.

>it's futile, like it or not your data is going to be collected by complex techniques out of your control or even understanding no matter what.

This is incorrect. "Complex techniques out of your control" lol yes, the economic powers that be have literal magical powers now that I will never understand.

Beyond that, this is an idiotic thing to say. Why should I make it easy to harvest my data?

>beside, for an average internet user, they don't give a fuck beside knowing what pr0duct/ service ads you may be interested in.

I don't care.

I'm not telling anyone that they should be concerned about this, or even go to the (very uninvasive) measure that I have taken to combat this problem. If you're okay with whoring your information out for mere convenience, be my guest.

Anonymous 1640

>>1639
do you own a smartphone?

Anonymous 1641

>>1640
Yes, I have an iPhone.

Anonymous 1835

Yeah. I ordered some camera covers that you can slide on and off just for some peace of mind. But honestly, my life isn’t that intensely interesting and I’m not a public figure so it doesn’t scare me too much. It’s not a pleasant feeling though.

Anonymous 1842

I always shove my phone under my pillow/in my nightstand drawer when changing.

>>1620
And so are you, despite all the steps you've taken lol

Anonymous 1845

>>1620
Here’s the way I see it:
There are 300,000,000 people in America. 7 billion in the world. Although not all of them have electronic devices, the ones that do probably have multiple (phone laptop desktop, maybe watch, not even including their old ones when they update). Of those people, the number actively protecting their privacy at a competent level must be insignificant, like less than 1%.

Now, if you’re a government agency, thoroughly monitoring EVERY bit of data is impossible. It might be catalogued and stored somewhere in case you become a person of interest later, but they simply don’t have the manpower to tap and listen to every phone line and internet connection at once. And until they get AI running on supercomputers for this express purpose, that will remain impossible.

However, the 1% of people actively protecting their information are inherently more interesting to the government than the random masses who don’t care when Facebook serves them targeted ads. By using a VPN and torrents and anonymized mail, you’re essentially self selecting and telling the web of internet scanners “hey, I’m educated about what you do, I’m trying to avoid it, don’t look over here!” Any agency that wants to snoop on internet traffic is going to pay closer attention to those people. And unless the consumer access services you’re using can stand up to the brunt force of the NSA, I doubt you’re ACTUALLY as secure as you think.

TLDR: by trying to keep your privacy you may actually be putting a target on your back for the gov to pay closer attention to. Just my theory though, I don’t have anything to substantiate this with.

Anonymous 1846

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>>1845
Although, I would like to add:

I do the same stuff ;)

Anonymous 1859

Honestly I never found privacy advocates' arguments compelling until I read https://www.socialcooling.com/ and realized that I really have been altering my online behavior subconsciously.

Not really sure what I can do to about it though.

Anonymous 1864

>>1863
I read this great article about a news reporter who got to interview Edward Snowden in russia, and basically the second he got back into the United States he constantly kept seeing his electronic devices remotely executing arbitrary code when he walked into rooms. Super creepy stuff
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/06/edward-snowden-operation-firstfruits/610573/

Coincidentally the author Barton Gellman also wrote the very hot topic article about how trump might contest the election

Anonymous 1871

I don't really feel the need to hide anything minor from my global lizard overlords. What do I care if they see my browsing or purchase history? Of course I uninstalled drivers for my audio and cameras on all devices though.

Anonymous 1893

>>1835
just tape it over anon

Anonymous 1897

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We're living in a technological dystopia and it's happened slowly enough that we are like frogs in boiling water. It's funny to see idiots on reddit and everywhere freaking out about China's surveillance state, as if our own system is that different.

I've tried to get into using ProtonVPN and DuckDuckGo but it sucks that ProtonVPN is blocked in so many services. I don't understand how it works so I don't know if paying for it would help that (I use free version). And it's just too easy to be lazy. Mobile scares me even more because every app asks permission to "record phone calls" or whatever (wtf). I use prepaid phone SIM for easy and have taped over my laptop camera.

Anonymous 1903

>>1897
I mean… you could live in the woods. Move to Nepal and set up shop in the mountains.

Anonymous 1905

>>1620
protonvpn sells your data too, and people who are in protonvpn sell your data without them knowing as well
all you are doing is putting up delays for botnet AI essentially



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