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Can you consent to cloning? Anonymous 2818

For example. If you sign away your rights to be cloned after death. The clone is created and they are to be used in human testing or whatever else. The clone itself does not consent to this, however.

Why would it be okay for you to claim consent on another version of yourself if they're not actually you?

Am bored. Discuss with me.

Anonymous 2819

>>2818
It wouldn't be and no governments other than China and Russia would allow it.

Anonymous 2820

>>2819
You dont think a day will come when Western countries will clone or at the very least consider it?

Anonymous 2821

Who would clone me?
The only practically I see for cloning is organ harvesting. For meat shields in war. Just have a clone wars thing.
It wouldn't have my memories, it would be raised in a environment where it understands it's a clone and its purpose.


I just think of this video.
https://youtu.be/vcCp2oFiaws

Anonymous 2822

>>2821
>it would be raised in a environment where it understands it's a clone and its purpose
So "it" would be raised from birth to be content with "its" purpose? How can you control that without brainwashing and other procedures I doubt would be considered ethical?

My guess is that if we were to actually use clones in that way that at first, we would treat clones as dirt. But because clones are human, they'd eventually rise up over a long period of time and show the world how they are human. It would be akin to the holocaust, likely.

Let's suppose we clone some celebrity, like an athlete and we expect "it" to just become an athlete like its predecessor. The problem is, clones are human. At some point, it is likely this clone would be aware it is a clone. It would be interesting to see whether they'd be okay with merely being a shadow of another human or not. I think that some would definitely not like how they are treated and it'd become justified slavery, essentially.

To answer OP:
>Why would it be okay for you to claim consent on another version of yourself if they're not actually you?
I think this is really asking why is it okay for people to make babies. You didn't ask to be born, and in this case, neither did your clone. I think it is interesting to frame clones as "versions" of you; considering a clone is probably going to be even more different from you due to epigenetics and the fact they're born in a different generation, i.e. a totally different environment. I see clones in actuality as just humans that share your dna, and even at that, only your base dna.

A true "clone" of a person would have to be you with your exact brain state.

Anonymous 2823

>It wouldn't have my memories, it would be raised in a environment where it understands it's a clone and its purpose.
Ah yes, the perfect clone of me would just take the brainwashing at face value, just like I take all corporations and the governments words at face value in my life.

Anonymous 2824

It's doubtful in a society where they would be cloning. To allow the clone you have free will unless specified otherwise. Especially if the clone is used for human testing, why even bother giving it the original host memories. It more or less would have been raised as a child to endure the testing and procedures.

Anonymous 2825

>>2822
The clone is being used for human testing it's already unethical to begin with.

Anonymous 2826

If I had a clone I'd want us to be best friends.

Anonymous 2827

>>2826
I'd need to kill mine before it killed me

Anonymous 2828

>>2827
Anon, that's mean.
Why wouldn't you be her pal?

Anonymous 2829

>>2828
Not the same Anon
But I hate myself. I would want to kill me so the clone would probably pitty kill me.

Anonymous 2830

>>2820
They'll do cloning but they won't be keeping them as slaves or anything.

Anonymous 2831

can identical twins do whatever they want to the other? identity is up for debate on a lot of things, but surely genetic material can’t be one of them

Anonymous 2832

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>>2818
I wanna clone myself and fuck her and be bffs with her and make music with her and cheat with her on my job while we take turns one works one raids the food storages.
I have autophilia and twin phantom pains since the age of 5.
Obv none of this would benefit me if I was dead, but if that was the only possibility of cloning me, I'd not allow it if she would be treated awfully. Only if she is given the same rights as any human, which she is. Don't see what makes clones less human tbh.



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