>>126702
You might be who OP is talking about.
You don't have to be.
Do you really believe that you don't deserve better than that?

>>126702
u can do better nona u dont deserve to stay with a horrible male

It's crazy how I never listened to Lana Del Ray even though I knew about the coquette scene back when it was niche. I just thought all the women were attractive lol
Maria and The Diamonds though… She was the goat. Better than Lana and Melanie hands down.
>>126693
Ethal Cain is irrelevant, that's a fucking moid. God I hate that stupid fuck so much. Men literally can't leave women the fuck alone even when it comes to aesthetics/music that is exclusively about womanhood. TTD.

>>126699
if she just masked more she would be so much more successful but she is authentic in a way that i think frightens a lot of people and they struggle to just take her at face value and believe what she says about herself and try to categorize someone who is intentionally having an authentic experience and therefore isn’t trying to flatten herself into one dimensionality and fitting in one neat little box like people want women to be

>>126670
Made me want to go on an alligator tour. Not to meet a guy like she did, just sounds fun.

>>126615
that made me feel a little better. thank you sweet nona.

I’ve lost weight but I still feel so fucking disgusting.
I know I should be proud of myself, but I can’t bring myself to be because in my mind I’ve made virtually no progress.
I started at 225 lbs and I now weigh 165. I’m not done losing yet, but I’m starting to feel really fucking discouraged.
I still look so fucking awful, if not just a little less wide than I used to be. I still have rolls and I can already feel the fact that I’ll have loose skin on my thighs and arms and stomach. The worst part is my legs, because I carry all my weight in my thighs so they’re still fucking gigantic.
Like even though I’ve lost weight and I’ll eventually get to my goal number, I won’t ever fucking feel pretty because I let myself get that big in the first place. It’s not even going to mean anything.
I struggled with binge eating all through out high school. I couldn’t take the feeling anymore so I decided I would finally try to stop binging and lose the weight, and I’ve been doing pretty consistently well as far as the scale goes, but I just feel like i barely have any visible progress to show for it.
I know I’m still overweight but even as I get closer to my goal I’m worried I’ll still look awful.
I feel so sick to my stomach because even after all I’ve put myself through I still can’t be beautiful and it’s all I’ve ever wanted but I guess it just isn’t attainable for someone like me. I hate living in my body, I hate looking the way I do.

>>126618
>>126618
hi, just know that the closer you are to your goal weight the better you'll look. youve made so much amazing progress already, and ive been in your place before. i also struggled to lose weight on my thighs but what helped the most is incline walking and power pilates. it doesn't matter how much you've used to weigh; what matters now is that you're changing and you're becoming healthier! keep going!

>>126630
thank you for the advice and kind words i really appreciate it nona :)

Even with makeup on I still feel like shit. Because yeah, I can put it on and be objectively prettier, but I just keep thinking about how the makeup industry targets women’s insecurities to get them to spend money and how I’ve fallen into that trap. I wish I could say I do my makeup for myself, as an artistic expression, but I 100% do it for others.

>>126666
how is it submission

Women don't understand women who reject sex. We literally don't like sexual submission and all sex for women is sexual submission. We reject our biology because we don't wanna identify with sexual submission bc we don't like it. We can't have a sex drive but still not have sex to not have to go through submission it's called self control and preference to not be submissive. But our biology doesn't care about our preference. Female submission in bed is human and natural. It's just biological. I wish the biological reality was different and making love included something else than male pleasure and female submission but it can't. Women embody femininity and men masculinity. It makes what it is

>>126728
It makes sex what it is. Porn also dynamics also reflect reality pretty much. It's just a fact about this raw reality of sex we experience. Don't call me pornsick bc I'm not. My truth is seen everywhere, even in the patterns of male and female behaviors and their psychology

some men at the other end feel like subhumans because they think we somehow hold power over them via sex. they even feel like we live in a matriarchy even.
it's however you choose to look at it, weak fags of both genders will find an excuse to agonize over something. it's, in fact, just them (and you, OP) externalizing their shit self esteem onto everyone else while masking it as some sort of infallible truth. when you're saying you think women are subhuman you're really just unable to handle the thought that you just feel like one and can't deal with it.

i agree. very honestly cant think of anything good about being a woman. its always been nothing but pain. when i started puberty my boobs ached all the time. and dealing with men. when i get my period i spend a week throwing up and crying. unless i look presentable at very moment of every day it feels like people dont see my as a person. i dont want to be a man. i want to be free.

>>126685
Perhaps, but I can’t see what to do in the coming years. I’ll probably try to go back to college and start a social media account to talk to people again.

>>126602
Thanks

chris chan or people lost in a loop of replicating the same patterns over and over again with no sign of improvement fills me with so much comfort
I can relate to him to a degree, not his indecent or criminal behavior but the stagnation and spiral, though he's less passive, more genuine and definitely has more life to him, I lose on that front.
I'm at rock bottom already if I need to look into someone like chris chan to feel better about myself

>>126747
Chris Chan really made me permanently aware of the fact that most retarded behavior people engage in is often not a character flaw per se, but a result of shitty circumstances. People don't like this idea usually because they think it implies we need to be accepting of anything they do - I disagree. I think it's a very accurate way to look at not just lolcows but most people really. Doesn't mean they can't use an ass whooping sometimes tho.

>>126747
I've been feeling this way about myself and my "gang", but I want to pull them out of it

I regret ever meeting or dating you. You're the most self destructive depressive person Iv ever met. No matter how much I reassured you or wanted to be there for you, you still ghost me and leave me confused as If I did something wrong for just checking up on you or waning to just talk. You're a coward and you're the one that wanted the relationship and you still didn't make any effort to change for me. I hope you never reach out to me again J

>>126730
alright i’m sorry gaby

knowing you are cursed and looking at your chart calms me down. all i have to do is confirm you’re going to be fucked for years upon years because of what you did. you were never going to grow up or mature. you were destined to pay for that. i hope karma hurts. i hope the things that are supposed to bring your life meaning and joy keep backfiring on you like they have since we met. i hope you stay this way forever.

>>126743
someone as terrible as you never should have been allowed to be near me or have power over me. you and i will both know for the rest of time what you did to me. you can lie all you want to other people but we will always know the truth. i cannot change what you did to me no matter how hard i try. i hate you so much you fucking rapist. you are hated more than you will ever be loved. i can’t express how deeply my hatred extends to you. you are a monster and i will destroy you.

>>126745
no wonder you worshipped satan. no wonder you believe in self worship. you are the literal fucking devil. you are a villain. you are a monster. you are the worst person who ever lived. no one on earth is as evil as you are nikolas parent. you are the most evil fucking person who has ever lived. i hate you.

>>126668
Maybe you're acting too desperate?
That's relatable. You can't force it though, just try to feel comfortable with someone, that may work better than trying too hard to appeal to them.
>And my closest current friend already had a best friend with whom she probably is close so with me she won't become close.
>had
So they're not as close anymore?
I used to have three best friends I was super close with, but we drifted apart and they stopped talking to me completely. I'm now closest with someone I barely ever talked to and barely share interests with. We feel really comfortable with each other, she's just really chill. Sometimes, that's all you need.
You can still try being closer to that current closest friend. And make more friends while you're at it, you never know when someone could turn out to be someone you really want in your life.

>>126668
Are these IRL friends or online “friends”?

>>126668
These people are low functioning psychopaths. It might be more that you're subconsciously pulled to psychopaths

Ever asked yourself why? Ever noticed ?

>>126676
This is true too though you might be needy

people are either selfish/individualistic and believe in things like emotional labor. or they are hurt and reluctant to trust new people. or a combo of both.

someone without a history of friendships and relationships is a red flag. sometimes it has nothing to do with you and it’s just where other people are. sometimes you trigger something in someone else’s pattern recognition and it doesn’t even have to be a real thing about you. you just reminded them of someone else.

when you take it personally every time or view normal distance from strangers as an attack, it can change your vibe and people can pick up on that. when you’re going into something expecting pain and disappointment and rejection and maybe feel nervous or defensive, people feel that emotion and wonder what’s going on in the interaction to make you feel that way. sometimes it makes them angry sometimes it makes them nervous. sometimes people even take advantage.

all of this can literally be bypassed by confidence and level eye contact. not i’m above you but everyone is my equal. you don’t have to care what anyone thinks of you. they’re not the judge. and you can also probably name some stuff you don’t like about people if you really think about it. no one is above you. there’s no one to impress. if you can internalize that people will like start begging to be around you.

hopefully this posts i just put it in the wrong thread

>>126718
so he's still a moid and a performative male except now hes a Buffalo Bill.

>>126720
i can’t even make this up he transitioned after he saw his best friends dick and tried to come on to him

>>126721
Did he think he was straight beforehand? Lol wut.

>>126722
no idea but i dated my ex right after he saw it and i could sense there was maybe something more there and then he came out as bi first and then last i heard he was exploring his gender identity and just like. jesus. i’m pretty sure that was the catalyst for the feelings developing but idk if it was all of it.

>>126719
you get it nona. Literally if their loneliness crisis was real that’s fucking nothing bc 50 years ago in developed countries we couldn’t have financial independence or careers + marital rape and domestic abuse was still legal. women face so much violence even in modernized countries, self induced loneliness is nothing. if i can try to make friends, so can these people. literally tomorrow they could just make a fucking meetup it’s so easy to organize on social media holy kekkkkkk

>>126739
That's terrible!

I absolutely get not getting along with women easily, it doesn't make you a bad person. I'm not autistic but I'm somewhat dissocial so I find getting along with groups of people intolerable. Bonding is hard too.
What I've accepted is most people will never click with you and you have to stop expecting them to, but you can still enjoy them for what they are. The moids who approach you probably feel less threatened by you cause you're not a part of a group. There isn't ill intent necessarily, a lot of moids are socially stunted.

So yeah I would advise you to be sociable just enough to maintain a connection with most people, but don't try to force a deep connection with them. It can only come from someone who has your experience in life.

>>126734
ty nonita. that makes sense with them not being threatened that im not in a group. i kinda suspect that my androgynous appearance contributes(no makeup, deep unmasked monotone voice, flat chest, kinda masculine face) ive gotten mistaken as mtf before lmao. what you said about most people not clicking is really true. Do you also not get invited to stuff/you’re the one being invited? Ive stopped putting in energy when things no longer feel reciprocal/they don’t click with me. Appreciate the advice

>>126735
>Do you also not get invited to stuff/you’re the one being invited?
not usually, but when I do get "invited" I always get some sense that something is not right and I'm just performing or tolerating them. like idc if you don't get me but want to hang out it feels kinda like mockery. I prefer doing the inviting instead.

Glad it helped.

Also I want to add a bit advice just in general - there will be people who seem to kinda "connect", but in reality it's some weird mimicry because they project some image onto you that seems cool and want to own you like a social pet or smth. There will be people motivated to fawn but in reality they don't understand you and are unreliable, because they're motivated by social points and see you as social capital. It's fucking bizzare but it can happen. I wouldn't say you have to avoid these necessarily, it isn't inherently bad, but I feel like it can benefit you to know about this fake type of connection. I think men are probably more motivated to do that but generally it can happen from women too.

>>126736
yeah i get why you’d not want to be invited, i would get suspicious as well that they’d want me to “perform”. I can see what you’re saying about the mimicry part too, that’s kinda happened before with friends seeming to idealize me. you ever feel also kinda cursed/chosen in a way as a true social reject/dissocial lol?

>>126737
>yeah i get why you’d not want to be invited, i would get suspicious as well that they’d want me to “perform”.
I think normalfags perform all the time too but they seem to enjoy it, or at least it doesn't go against their sense of self. I always thought it was stupid for some reason.

>you ever feel also kinda cursed/chosen in a way as a true social reject/dissocial lol?
I used to! I was medically neglected for a while which kept me very aloof and socially stunted due to stress and pain. Now that I'm healthier I have no problem socializing but I realized I just lack the capacity to care about social norms. I love when people readily share their real feelings instead of hiding behind a mask so it's not like I'm completely asocial. This is why I don't enjoy group dynamics probably, they are never frank, unless full of autistics or smth. They always have some sort of checks and balances that keep you from doing whatever you want.

>I can see what you’re saying about the mimicry part too, that’s kinda happened before with friends seeming to idealize me
Do you also feel like it's nice but hollow?

Anyways I enjoyed this chat a lot nona. Thanks and have a nice day/night wherever you are <3