/media/ - Media

They're pretty cringe. They don't have their own style or charm, it's just like watching generic anime girl with an annoying voice play a video game.

i think it's fine. it gives people a way to goof off and make silly videos, constructing a persona without having to show their real name/face. there's no pretense that they're being realistic.

>>24522
I occasionally watch them. I don't have any hard favourites, but i do quite like Ina. I think her voice is quite calming, and it's nice to have in the backround. I don't think the trend is going to die down, although i do think that it will eventually lose attention and just be one type of streaming, instead of the phenonenon that it is right now.
I think that the biggest strength of vtubing is the media and fanworks that have surrounded it. There are lots of really high quality works that have been made and popularised by the vtuber fandom, which i think is a good thing, as previously small creators have been able to get lots of recognition. For instance, Mazumaros HoloEN animations are fantastic, and a delight to watch.
The main thing i dislike about vtubers, is the constant obvious pandering. Since people liked it when various talents had chemistry and got on well, naturally it was turned up to 11, and every other vtuber is pretending to be a lesbian. It's really unnatural and fake, but regardless, braindead fans eat it up so now it's basically the standard. Coming from someone who really likes yuri, I hate it.
In terms of vtubers and society, I don't think that it is extremely impactful. Parasocial relationships were prevalent long before vtubers, and they'll be prevalent long after. Generally, the main issues and strengths of vtubers are similar to lots of other big trends, which makes sense as they're basically an attempt at merging idol and internet culture
Basically, my opinion is that they're fine, i don't really care.

I despise this
I think videogame streamers/letsplayers are pretty 'tism already, but making it performative uwu coomer pandering
Eh…

>>24522
some of them are alright, like that dog one. however, a lot of them tend to bend their content to appeal to moid's sensibilities too much, like acting like le horny anime girl all the time. still, it's a nice medium, and if they can stop pandering to the weeb autists all the time, they can be really funny and interesting.

>>24522
i'll never really be able to get into watching streams in general. you'd have to have some pretty severe depression or something to want to just piss away 5 hours of your day watching something that's only reasonably entertaining. maybe i'd watch them more if they made edited videos. my friends showed me mumei, though, and i quite like her. she's sort of relatable.
aside from that, however, i actually think it's probably a good thing. i like the anonymity. it feels like anonymity on the internet has been declining for a while. most people put their names and faces all over everything, and i don't really think that's a good thing. at the very least, i don't like it.

I like mashiro from nijisanji because he does creepy paranormal stuff in his streams and has caught a few "ghostly" encounters while streaming before and he's had a really interesting life so I like hearing him tell stories about stuff he's experienced
also sometimes watch chaika (nijisanji) 3D streams because they're basically comedy skits
most female vtubers seem like weeb coomerbait (or fujobait for the male ones) and I personally don't enjoy watching them although I suppose I can see the appeal

They creep me out. Not even in like an uncanny valley way, they just look janky as shit. A lot of them also tend to do this weird lilting baby-talk voice; I know it’s like vocal training junk but it’s so weird. Some of the character models are super generic, so much so they may as well be reanimated Picrew avatar generators.

I think she would be into raccoon boys.

Has anyone been watching Salome? I love her.

I like them! Sadly all cool ones are either eng of jp and I need subtitles for both, so I can't just have then on the background while doing other things, so I barely watch them (there's no way I'm sitting for 5 hours paying full attention to a rando talking).
As the prev anon said, I really like its anonymity and it's a good way to be able to stream or just talk without being immediately recognized or it being a extension of your irl life. Also moids throw money at anything that mildly resembles a woman, so it's a (relatively) easy/fun way to gain money.
I wish they had more variety though, all of them look copy-pasted… I enjoy the anime style, but there's lots of room to be creative, people aren't exploiting that enough. I have seen some designs that are still anime-esque but have the artist's spin on it and they stand out lots to me in a positive way. But I will take anything as long as it isn't the woke art style.
Yesterday I saw the "first Vtuber camgirl" (taken from her bio) who made nsfw streams & had an OF, and it did worry me a bit about the future of Vtubing, but I guess it's better if moids are jacking off at a badly animated PNG than irl porn ig. I just hope it doesn't spread too much.

>>24522
i dont watch any vtubers besides occasional clips that pop up here and there, but like other anons said i can appreciate the opportunities for more anonymity they guarantee, without sacrificing much entertainment value. For women, putting your real face and voice up can make you a target for harassment that bleeds IRL, so, yeah

The problems i do have with vtubers are more delegated to the anime fandom in general, so I wouldnt place the blame on them in particular. Like pandering to moids' tastes I dont find full blame on them for; I used to do that shit too out of curiosity or to just get attention since weebs are always like "WOAH GORL???" even if it was ultimately bad for me and everyone else

>>25104
>As the prev anon said, I really like its anonymity and it's a good way to be able to stream or just talk without being immediately recognized or it being a extension of your irl life. Also moids throw money at anything that mildly resembles a woman, so it's a (relatively) easy/fun way to gain money.
You know this from personal experience? What's the expected income from becoming a vtuber?

>>24522
Vtubers are for pedophiles and those who will never feel the touch of a woman

>>25109
I'm not a vtuber myself, but 2 of my friends are. And about the amount of money… it all depends on how much effort you are willing to put on it + luck to attract people. I don't know their exact gains, but it isn't enough to make a living (unless you join an agency i guess), think of it as some extra income.
But to be honest, it's like normal streaming except you're a cute anime girl. If you're constant and cater to moids a lil bit from time to time you will end up with a following.

If you plan to become one, either start learning to draw or be prepared to spent $500-700 on a model (the product is worth that price, it's incredibly time consuming to draw and rig the models, trust me). If you like a niche subject or pretty much anything aside videogames/anime, feel free to make it your trademark or talk about it often, people like quickly girls and the market of game streaming is over saturated already, it may help you to stand out.
Aside the big monetary spent at first (if you needed it), pretty much the only thing Vtubing requires from you is some time. Just post random things on twitter daily and reply sometimes to other Vtubers and your followers; one of my friends pretty much uses her Vtuber twitter account as a personal one at this point. About streaming, my friends usually just stream on weekends or when they're free from their actual work.

>>25120
Hi Venti!
Sorry that so many moids only care about your boobs more than your views, lol.

>>24522
Idk, I feel like I'd like it more if most of it wasn't about pedo-bait–the ubiquity of these things puts me off of the concept as a whole.
I'm tired of being a broken record but that's just it.

I've been watching a lot of Vox. He seems to cater a lot of his content to women without going full fujoshi (though he's been teasing at the possibility and since he streams with other guys the shippers are always there).

Anyways his avatar is hot and his voice is hot and he makes me feel all giddy inside.

>>25378
I can't quite put my finger on it, I like hot voices but at the same time I don't know what makes a voice hot, I know it definitely isn't just when it's deep though, sometimes I just feel it or I don't, it's a shame because lots of content creators have personalities I like but they get annoying when I listen too much wheareas other people I could listen to forever.

>>25124
Well, it doesn't make any sense to pay for a $700 model if I will never earn back $700 dollars. I can understand an investment, because I want to look good, but what does it take to earn that back? A year? 2?

I love vtubers and my current dream is to become one. Bonus points if I can actually make a living off of it.

>>25417
>A year? 2?
Vtubing is an extremely saturated market, if you aren't filling a niche you're probably not going to make much, but distinguish yourself enough from competition entertainment and you can probably make that back in a month. It is hard to get that snowball rolling, though, like anything else popularity-based.

>>25463
>Vtubing is an extremely saturated market
I'm fully aware.
>but distinguish yourself enough from competition entertainment and you can probably make that back in a month
Let's assume I don't actually manage to do this, what does a very poor, very low-tier vtuber make?

>>25464
Nothing, I guess? Unless you actually like streaming, acting and such, so the reward is just to have fun with others with a occasional small income.
As I said it's a way to earn some extra money, not something you can live of. People who do this already got an actual job, the money needed for the model and setup is taken from their saving of that job. With the time, either streaming or the actual work will end up covering the initial costs; but yeah you need to have a secure-ish roots first.
If you're here just for the money… maybe you can start being a PNGtuber? I don't know much about them, but from what I read instead of having a fully animated characters, they use static images of their character with different expressions.

I like the funny dog girl playing videogames.
the other ones can go to hell.

What do you think of Tempus?

>>25798
Best vtubers. Like them all except blue faggot. Love Vesper.
Wish the EN girls were as entertaining as them.

>>24522
Who th hell is this vtuber in the op? I don't care for vtubes but after seeing this a million times, need to know

>>25838
Subaru.

I think they are pretty cool and I appreciate the time and effort put into making the models as they genuinely take so long to make but personally i just prefer to see an actual real life person streaming. just feels a bit more real.

>>25798
Luxiem and Noctyx but worse

>>26176
Nothing is worse than Noctyx except maybe Iluna.
Nijisanji could not have fucked up worse with their recruiting there.

Vtubers are closer to 3D than 2D

>>27323
But Sonny love! I love this Australian angel! Pyro love

Anyone here watches some of the Nijisanji EN ones? They're kinda gross sometimes.

I don’t mind people who are independent vtubers, and aren’t in an agency like Nijisanji or something. A lot of people in Nijisanji EN are extremely annoying and I can’t stand watching more than a few minutes of their streams.

>>25798
I like Tempus but I'm more of a JP Holostars fan myself.

>>24522
i used to get weirded out by them but i now love ina'nis and >>24526 this dog vtuber on picrel. i also can't believe that i found this song catchy and could endure its cringe

>>24522

Loathe them, tbf. The best I can say about them is there's nothing inherently wrong with using an animated avatar to protect your anonymity, and in fact it could be a pretty cool concept if used creatively. The problem is that no one does. Virtually all the vtubers I've seen look like over-designed knockoff Genshin Impact characters and clearly exist to squeeze money out of hentai-poisoned pedo otakus. There's something deeply unpleasant about hearing a grown woman do her best impression of a prepubescent child while her avatar's giant tits jiggle like she's in the middle of an earthquake. The lack of facial emotion/decent animation also contributes to my discomfort with them; considering how much money people pay for these models, you'd think they could do something other than flap their mouths like characters from an early 2000s flash cartoon.

I like some of them! I think Pomu is cute and Doppio is a doofus!

They're unfortunately necessary to stream as a woman. It creates a kind of additional layer, away from the actual person. The moid will fixate on the fictional character instead like a missile to a flare.

I love Kiara, my favorite are her girl talk streams and zatsus. I like to just have the background chatter on of a cute autistic woman blabbering happily about how her day is going or things she likes, I have no close female friends so it's like a friend simulator.

i like Lily Hopkins. I thought she was just lolibait for pedomoids but she's actually pretty nice. Her ASMR is silly. She was a kid when she started and had to put a disclaimer that she wasnt using a voice changer on older streams. scary to think that "vtubing" is now something kids are putting on their future career questionairs and they're actually able to pick it up while young.

rant.. if i wasn't so shy i'd like to livestream but i'm a literal tomoko and freeze up. last time i hopped on a mic i got called a squeeker and told my balls should drop. i typed in textchat that i'm a real girl and then got called a troon. if i can't make friends beside my family irl i certainly can't online with dudes who just want to make rape jokes about me

>>32487
How old is she? Not familiar with her at all, but the first result on youtube is "Your Little Sister Gives You Positive Affirmations (ASMR)" and if she's a kid I find the idea of her positioning herself as the viewers "little sister" uncomfortable, plus ASMR is inherently sexual imo.

In regards to OP I find a lot of the character designs cool but I don't have any interest in letsplays and this is just that with a different coat of paint. A cute anime girl isn't going to change the fact that at the end of the day I'd just rather play the game myself. I appreciate that it gives more privacy to the steamer though, seems like a fun way to protect your identity regardless of if you roleplay or not.

>>32491
I can try though I'm not the most eloquent.

ASMR is all about invoking what listening refer to as "tingles" there are various ways of doing this but the most common for streamers is mouthy whispers and saliva noises, nibbles, and tapping the mic. There is also the subgenre with role-playing where the streamer positions themselves as a friend, doctor, teacher, partner, ect to the listener.
I would argue almost all of these facts makes it weird on the surface, but really think about it. The tingling sensation at whispers in your ears, it's a form of arousal right? Remove the visuals from half the mouth sound videos and it's the same as blowjob audio porn. Not to mention most of the "triggers" are those inherently sensual noises.

I'm not going to sit here and say every ASMR video is fapbait, but I do think the community and genre has an inherently sexual slant. I was actually going to post a video of a kitten eating a crocodile tail ASMR video I saw a while back to give an example of non-sexual ASMR, but searching "kitten asmr" gave the top result of a channel called Kitten ASMR. Her avatar is a picture of herself in a tanktop with ample cleavage and it looks like most of her thumbnails position her tits front and center, the kittens came up too but it think it is emblematic of my point.
Not something I'd want my hypothetical kids near.

>>32494
asmr used to be something for women by women, but of course males ruin everything. now other women like you think it's some weird kink instead of it being a relaxation and mindfulness practice. My mother used to be an asmr youtuber and I can assure you the community back then was not sexual in any sense of the word. god i hate men.

>>32487
im sorry to be the bearer of bad news but lily is a tranny larping as a loli