BOOK GENERAL Anonymous 3098
Subject says it all.
Discuss everything to do with books. Writing, reading, burning, etc. Ask for recommendations and stuff.
and i'll start us off, anyone got a good novel featuring a (female) loser protagonist? reading prequel adventure and katia is extremely relatable, seeing her struggles thus far make me feel a bit better lol
nothing too tragic! just a good book where the heroine's growth doesn't immediately stem from inheriting some great power (though if they do, they struggle with it immensely).
I it doesn't have to be female and human i would suggest Silverwing from Kenneth Oppel. Not sure if it is enough loser protagonist for you. (Had read it long time ago)
I always wanted to write stories. Often made notes about characters and the world and thing about the adventures they do. I just have so problems to writing the actual story from my head to Paper. It seem like a block (blockage?) in my brain. Had this problem in school too, i knew the answer but i could not write it in a way that made sence.
Reading this now, I am super fascinated with cults and it's a great read. I was very interested to find out he was once a caregiver in a hospital who cared intimately for dying patients who smelled of rotting flesh and had to change their diapers and did so with a smile. I wonder what Jim Jones would have been like if he had chosen to be a doctor instead of a preacher when he was at that crossroads in his life, even with his narcissistic tendencies perhaps he could have been a great man…
Lol at burning. When I was a teenager I once burnt all my yaoi manga in a bonfire after a bad breakup because I wanted to become a different person… Didn't really work lol.
Reading of Rot and Roses right now. It's lovely.
I recently finished Sweet Bean Paste
by Durian Sukegawa.
Thank you to >>2285
for recommending it in the favorite books thread. It was comfy but had an emotional impact. I could see what was going to happen, but still relished the reading experience.
Right now I'm reading Pink
by Barbara Nemitz, a book about the artistic and cultural significance of the color pink.
I'm reading the fingersmith right now, it's lovely.
I’m finishing Atonement by Ian McEwan atm. I started reading it last year and by all means I thought (and still think) that it’s a good book but at some point I just completely lost any interest in reading and besides that for some reason I’ve always had a tendency to not finish reading books for some reason, leaving them unfinished at 4/5 of the way??? I recently started wanting to read again and read a pretty cosy book on the shorter side so 2019 may yet be a reading year for me!
Reading City Come A-Walking by John Shirley. So far it's fun, I keep thinking it would be a good tech-noir movie. But it would have to be done in the 80's.
How would miners feel about having a book club where we read a different book every month? We could have a poll to vote for one too.
I read Crime and Punishment on Wednesday and spent Thursday-Friday reading Demons. I'll probably read The Brothers Karamazov today, unless I have to spend all day shoveling.
I read very quickly.
Damn nibba what's your secret? The only book I managed to read in a day was Neuromancer when I moved into a new place that didn't have internet for a couple days.
Brothers K is great by the way 👌
whoa, I read Crime and Punishment in 5 days and that was when I was trying my hardest to read as fast as I can. But I really liked that book, out of all the books I had to read for school that one was my favorite. Did you like it?>>4373
I would really like that, I don't read often so it would give me a purpose. We could have different groups for different genres if we had enough people.
Darn I just remembered I started reading catch 22 and liked it but I don't have time anymore
I just bought a book I heavily dislike reading, has bad ratings and is really hard to understand. The characters get lost in each other but it was expensive af, so I am dedicated to read it now.
Tips for reading a groggy book that has it's good parts but is otherwise really hard to understand, to follow the plot to be more exact?
Said book: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/283138.The_Black_Envelope
Maybe try to focus on the wordplay? If it's written well, that is. There might be something to enjoy in the cadence of it.
I found out about an interesting book online one day and since then I've been reading a lot, I used to not read anything at all before. I read "Mission of Gravity" by Hal Clement a few days ago, and I just finished "Blood Music" by Greg Bear a few minutes ago. They are both science fiction stories.
Mission of Gravity is about a massive planet that rotates very rapidly so it's very oblate and the gravitational acceleration at the poles is 3g and at the equator is 700g. So humans send a rocket to study the planet but it gets stuck on the pole and they can't retrieve the information, so they cooperate with intelligent life on the planet that can survive under such high gravity. It's very interesting because it shows the problems the aliens have because of the planet's weirdness and how their way of thinking evolved because of it, and also it's fun. I really liked the little aliens, pic related is one artist's interpretation, although not totally accurate, it's cute; look he's waving.
Blood Music is a bit scary, it deals with genetics and the nature of the universe and reality, I cried at the end, although it was not sad. It's about a biotechnologist who programs his blood cells to work as little computers, giving them intelligence, but after he injects them back into himself, weird things start to happen… At first the changes on the scientist himself are described but as the book goes on the intelligent blood cells start changing things on a larger and larger scale.
I really liked these stories, I would recommend them if you like science fiction, to others they would probably be boring.
Also lol I wrote the acceleration at the poles is 3g and at the equator 700g, it's the other way around
Is Blood Music similar to The Fly in a way, then?
Somewhat tedious on definitions, but otherwise kinda interesting if you're into math. I should've kept it for later, but still not too bad. I'm not a big fan of Russell, but this is one of his least… polarized books.
That said, I often question why I read so much philosophy. At times, I wonder if I'm too dumb to properly comprehend the content of what I'm reading.
i think that's pretty much the feeling everyone gets when reading philosophy
I haven't watched that movie, but from the summary on Wikipedia it's only similar because of the "mad scientist does weird experiment on himself and transforms" bit but Blood Music's story is deeper and goes far beyond that. I didn't want to spoil too much but now I remembered about the spoiler feature:After the scientist injects his reprogrammed cells back into himself they start reshaping his body so it works better. The cells spread to other people as well but cause very different effects in them: they melt and turn into weird blobs… but they're still alive, living in the universe of the sentient cells, and they are happier than ever before. Soon all of North America is infected, and all the people dissolved and their bodies form alien landscapes all across the continent. There is a bit of storytelling from the point of the few people who were not transformed, travelling across this alien landscape, I liked that part a lot, I could really imagine how bizarre it looked and how scared the humans were. Later one scientist realizes that this massive increase in the number of sentient beings on Earth causes the Universe not being able to shift (because it can only shift while it is not being observed, it's some bogus theory but just accept it) and a bit of reality bending stuff happens, which culminates at the ending.
My favorite parts were conversations humans had with the sentient cells in them, also I liked the transition from a focus on genetics to life in a postapocalyptic world to a focus on the nature of the universe/reality.
Wew that was long. One bit that is just subpar in this book are the characters, they are quite flat but I don't mind that much, they are just tools to drive the interesting story. There was one girl character who I liked, the rest were very forgettable.
Also I started reading "Rocheworld" (also sci fi), it's interesting but the introductions of characters had me feeling like I was reading an excerpt from some tutorial on how to write interesting characters, I mean not that it's bad it's just a bit uncanny.
It was definitely the right call to save Brothers K for last! I feel like it contains pieces of all his other novels in it, so having already read them made it a richer experience.
Idiot savant, probably. Apparently I taught myself to read when I was 3. >>4376
I liked Crime & Punishment a lot more than I thought I would at first - the first Dostoevsky I ever read was The Idiot, which has his most idealistic and sympathetic protagonist (to me, anyway). Raskolnikov is probably his 2nd most sympathetic protagonist - depends on where you put Alexei from Brothers K - but also, I think, the only one who manages to be endearing and pitiable in his evil.
Currently almost done with The Book of Disquiet, which has been a slow and meandering read, but very beautiful.
Stuff I read in the last two weeks:
>Homage to Catalonia, Orwell
>Turing's Cathedral, Dyson
>Gogol [collected short stories]
>Fathers and Sons, Turgenev
>One Day In The Life Of Ivan Denisovich, Solzhenitsyn
Solzhenitsyn also wrote "The Gulag Archipelago", which I'm going to start reading tonight. His novel was really similar to Dostoevsky's Notes from a Dead House - two Russian authors, two ""fictional"" accounts of the convict labor camps, different era. The regimes come and go, but the gulag remains…
You read all
of that only in the past two weeks, anon? Makes me wish I still had the motivation to read. I used to be able to read novels in succession like that but now I can barely force myself to read a single chapter.
no the anon you're replying to but i usually force myself to read at least 10 pages a day and sometimes i read more because i get into it. its not much but its at least 300 a month which isnt bad
Don't feel bad, anon. I'm a NEET housekeeper with too much free time. Also, three of the books I got through are quite short - one day[…], fathers and sons, and homage to catalonia were all very easy to read.
>>4610>That said, I often question why I read so much philosophy. At times, I wonder if I'm too dumb to properly comprehend the content of what I'm reading.
You're not dumb, most philosophers are just terrible at putting their points across clearly. Russell is actually on the clearer end of the spectrum but his subject matter particularly the more mathematical stuff is itself just a pain to get your head around if you're not familiar with it. A lot of philosophers also like to overcomplicate things to seem smarter than they are and despite what they'll tell you this applies equally to analytical philosophers as it does continental ones.
I wouldn't endorse their arguments good examples of philosophers who write/wrote clearly are Jaegwon Kim or David Lewis (if you can handle his slightly weird writing style anyway). Also if you want a good reference for terminology and general grounding in a given subject then the Stanford Encyclopaedia of Philosophy is great https://plato.stanford.edu/
just mind and check who wrote the current revision of the article if something seems a bit off.
Recently finished reading Lord of Light by Zelazny.
An interesting mix of Hindu mythology and Sci-fi.
Now I need to catch up with my Goodreads reading challenge.
recently i’ve been thinking a lot about a short story i read in uni called “sultana’s dream”. has anyone else read it? i know this probably isn’t the place for political discussion but i used to hate radical feminism and consider myself a “gender equality advocate” but these past few months i’ve gotten more and more fed up and thinking about this story i dunno, i just kind of wish it was real haha. anyway if anyone has read the story and has any similar-type of story recommendations please share them. thank you!!
Last book I really enjoyed was All The Bright Places, but it's teen fiction so I imagine not everyone would be into it. It was pretty bleak but also beautiful.
Has anyone else started collecting these Taschen Books that are seemingly sold everywhere now?
They're cheap and of good quality. I bought Keith Haring, H.R. Giger and Francis Bacon.
I'm quite happy about that HR Giger got a book dedicated to him,every other book prints are super expensive and/or from the 80s.
Nearing the end of reading Queen of the Damned by Anne Rice. I had read interview first last year then found The Vampire Armand hardcover at value village and began reading that, and was enjoying it but decided its probably best to at least read the first three books first before continuing that one.
Waiting for Let the Right One in to come in the mail.
I guess can say I have been getting into vampire lit a little bit.
It would be cool to be Patchouli Knowledge and can sit for years and years and just be left alone to read most of the time in a gigantic library.
I'm late to the thread but have you read any Laurell K. Hamilton? I think she writes more about vampire hunters than strictly vampires, but her stuff is worth checking out.
Excellent pick for getting introduced to his works.
I've got ones on Monet and Kirchner a few years ago.
right now I'm reading The Sun Also Rises and David Copperfield. I reread Hemingway's The Torrents of Spring last month, short but fun read.
With respect to writing, I haven't been keeping up with my journal during quarantine even though I have all the time to do it. I think I just don't want to reflect on how shitty life is right now. It would be good to have some primary sources though to look back at in the future.
So far I've read The Bell Jar by Sylvia Plath and I'm reading War and Peace bit by bit. War and Peace is easy reading in terms of its prose and the difficulty for me is more about the commitment involved, so I would encourage anyone to read it. My next "read" is Ways of Seeing by John Berger. It was originally a TV show, but it's still nice to experience the content in a book format.
I've also been reading this collection of American Poetry from the 70's. It's long, but reading poems is fast. I like it because for each author, I look them up online after I read their poetry so I feel like I'm getting a crash course in American poetry which I don't know too much about.
I'd been meaning to read The Coming Insurrection by The Invisible Committee for a few months, after I bought it as well as the books following it, To Our Friends and Now. I started reading it yesterday and finished it today, a speed which I can barely bring myself to finish anything. I had a productive day aside from that as well, listened to an album I'd been meaning to listen to (Tales of a Grasswidow by Cocorosie) and went for an hour-long jog. I'm going to try and read To Our Friends (which is twice as long) soon.
I'd recommend it to basically anyone, unequivocally.
I just finished reading The Silent Patient. It's so good, miners - if you have the time and like psychological thrillers, you need to read it. I was just so dumbstruck by how good it is, I needed to talk about it.
I'm about to start reading Kitchen by Banana Yoshimoto.
Can someone recommend some good incel-lot? I read Elliot Rodgers manifesto, I want more stuff by fucked up men
Before COVID ended it I used to go to my library's writing club. There were literally 0 men there. I'm not just talking about the regulars who always came but we didn't even have a one-time male visitor. Why aren't men interested in reading and writing anymore, did video games abduct them?
Men just don't go out anon lol
Prose is garbage and it's obviously written by a moid
I've finally gotten out of my reading slump ladies. The solution is forcing yourself to read even at least 2 pages a day until it progresses. I'll be finishing my 3rd book this year and that's already an achievement for me because I only read one book last year. Whoever has a reading slump right now, good luck.
Congrats anon!!! What did you read?
I wanna do the same thing but I can’t find a book that sparks my interest and I’m scared of pouring time into something disappointing. The last book I really enjoyed was Kafka on the shore.
Bible is a Good Book, you should read it!
Anon here. I read The First Men in the Moon and The Enchiridion. At the moment, I'm reading The Castle by Kafka-not the easiest thing to read but I adore Kafka. You should probably read another Murakami book if you liked Kafka on the Shore anon, I love his Norwegian Wood. You try to check it out. All the good wishes.
Truthfully I think all the big religion books are 'good' books in that they are interesting to read. I read the bible young because Catholic upbringing, but I went through a phase of reading religious books and read the Koran, Book of Mormon, Tibetan Book of the Dead etc back-to-back and they're all very evocative even if you aren't buying into their belief systems.
I'll try and use your method, been in a reading slump for a few years now (even though I've been going to book fairs and buying at least 2-3 books every single time). Thank you very much for the advice, I hope you've enjoyed all of the books you've read so far!
Nice. I am getting back into reading too. Have finished two so far this year and am into a long one (The Stand)
Do any of you ladies browse /lit/ on 4chan? I go there sometimes because, despite all the moids, there's lots of good literature discussion.
Sometimes I do but I'm not sure if I'd say there is "lots" of good discussion. It's also probably one of the most misogynist boards on 4chan and that's saying something.
There’s better literary discussion in my diary.
Even though 95% of the board is crap, the fact that there's like 10000 posts per day means there's lots of good content. I think the 5% is worth sticking around for.
I go there once a month mostly, they have good discussions at times but you have to nitpick through the heaps of nonsense threads. If you want to talk about literary, the best option is to go there. Just do not reveal you're female or they go monkey mode. This applies to everywhere on the chans really.
Hey girls. I am on a quest to be more literate and get used to books. I usually can't focus and hate to read. But I want to try a bit more. I read some fiction but I want to read something fun that will teach me something or give me perspective. (non-fiction)
I wonder what psychology book would be interesting, so please recommend me something. Any other subject is good too, except politics or history, though anthropology is good. I just want another productive hobby. Thank you.
How old are you? I think certain books require a minimum age. Regardless, pop psychology is always easy to read, and I recommend Thinking Fast and Slow
and Games People Play
I'm 18. Not really looking for something easy to read, just something that is interesting, I have been reading in a foreign language, and it's not easy
but I keep up with it because it's very enjoyable. It's easier to pick when a person recommends something.
You can probably try Norwegian Wood by Haruki Murakami anon, it's easy and fast.
I'm reading fiction already.
It depends on what you're interested in.
Wind, Sand and Stars is a really nice autobiography by the author of the Little Prince about his job flying air mail.
I like music and have read some fun music books. Heroes and Villains is a pretty wild book about The Beach Boys.
If you want /x/ shit read The Franklin Cover-Up which is about an American child sex ring that was swept under the rug.
The Family by Ed Sanders is a good one about the Manson murders and is a bit more even-handed than the most famous Manson book which was written by the prosecutor in Manson's case.
Bare-Faced Messiah is a good biography of L. Ron Hubbard, founder of scientology.
Just finished ''White Nights'' by Dostoevsky. I really liked it. He was only 27 years old when he wrote it and I recommend it for anyone who wants to read something short and intense.
I've been in a reading slump lately too. I use to read at least 12-15 books a year, which isn't much I guess for the average /lit/ and many were pop novels with some new age drug texts, philosophy and classics mixed in. I'm into meta-mythology and folklore, symbols and all that stuff. I decided to read through Joseph Campell's Masks of the Gods, starting with Primitive Mythology. I read about 18 pages today and I think I'm gonna try to read by chapter. I'm horrible at retaining information though and taking notes, I was wondering if anyone had any tips for retaining information from what you've read?
After years of memeing about Lovecraft I am finally reading his stories. They are really addictive and he had a great imagination.
Can anyone recommend good history books?
thats like such a huge question with so many different types of answers, but rn im reading "the anatomy of revolution" by Crane Brinton, "A Century of Dishonor" by Helen Hunt Jackson, and "Red Comet" which is the newest sylvia plath biography and loving them all
Same I’m terrible at remembering , not just with books but with anime and manga too , I really enjoy reading reviews and watching youtube videos discussing them , usually that’s what’s helps me remember , also maybe writing down quotes that I like
Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire
Cambridge Ancient, Medieval, and Modern History
Oh I forgot to mention I'd prefer if they're about war, I forgot to add that.
any books which feture an amazing/ heartwarming friendship? it doesn't matter what genre and the friendship doesn't have to necessarily be the main focus. I am interested in science fiction, but then again I'm open to any genre
I know this comment is a whole 8 months old but could you please censor the grim books' descriptions next time? it triggers me due to past trauma to even read simple words that don't go into detail, sorry about being so weak but I precisely drown myself in books to forget
Storm of Steel by Ernst Junger made me interested in World War 1 so I read The First World War by Hew Strachan because I found it at a thrift store and I liked it. I'm reading 1776 by David McCullough now which is about the American Revolution and it's not bad either but I'm not done with it.
any short stories that you'd recommend, keep it R please, nothing nc-17, I'm 21 but get triggered easily with morbid themes, I almost walked out when watching hereditary and I stopped readong A Clockwork Orange when I knew it contained gang rape and The Time of The Hero because of the ambiguously written bestiality scene, it can feature crime just not have it uncomfortably described with specific details
I was going to suggest a bunch of Lovecraft, but if you don't like spooky things then better not. Maybe you'd enjoy Neil Gaiman's short stories. He uses a lot of fantastical, fairytaley elements. "Chivalry" is a good one.
Thomas Ligotti if you like horror. Particularly his compilation book, Songs of a Dead Dreamer & Grimscribe. Nothing particularly graphic as far as I can tell. His style of horror tends to be Lovecraftian, more cerebral and existential.
Etgar Keret's The Bus Driver Who Wanted to be God is good too, his short stories tend to be a bit humorous and surreal. I also recommend High Tide in Tucson by Barbara Kingslover. They're more like a collection of her essays, but for a change of pace she writes a lot about nature, environmentalism, her life and travels. It's really 180 from anything graphic and is a nice breezy read that also has a lot of depth.
Can anyone recommend me something like Pretty Little Liars book series? What I loved about it was having 4 female protagonists who each had their own storyline, mystery and the writing that was very easy to read. I love Sara Shepard's writing style and the way she often writes short dynamic paragraphs and when she does write long paragraphs you're already intrigued by this point. Perfect for my short attention span.
What is y'alls favourite book? Usually for me it's just whatever recent book I read that I liked, which is currently 100 Years of Solitude - I didn't expect it to be so funny. Still if I had to pick one it would probably be Me and Earl and the Dying Girl. I bought it as a kid because I liked the cover and then read it probably about ten times over. Maybe I should reread it.
This thread is my reading progress watchthread from now on. Reading Crime and Punishment page 236. Should finish it 3 days from now. Cya ladies.
How are you liking it? I remember listening to the youtube audiobook this when I was in school, I had the attention span of a grape and decided to practice chess online at the same time, for the whole book. Obviously, I am still shit at chess. I properly read Notes from the Underground and The Prince though, they were good, the Underground man was so literally sixteen-year-old me.
Has anyone here read Candide? I highly recommend it, it's funny. All philosophy should be communicated through fiction, honestly.
I finished reading Ramona by Hellen Hunt Jackson. I kind of liked it because of the cowboy vibes, but it was kind of silly and unrealistic at some parts.
i just got through the first two chapters of Picnic at Hanging Rock. its good so far, im curious to know how it's supposed to be eerie or psychedelic. also, it is really hard for me, a burger, to read in an australian accent.
One of my favorites in Memoirs of a Geisha. It was one of the contributing factors to my descent into a Japanophile. Was disappointed to find out, years later, how unfactual it is though.
I've only seen the movie, which is fantastic. It's been a while but it did have a hazy, dreamy feel to it.
i just read a discovery of witches.
it's like twilight but for adult women in their 30s.
it's ridiculous how perfect and unique everyone is in that book.
makes me angry they made these unrelatable super smart, beautiful people as characters. how am i supposed to self insert as the main character who is a mary sue with ALL the witchcraft powers at her fingertips when most witches only have 1 or 2 unique powers. How am i supposed to self insert when she is a beautiful blond woman who went to university at a super young age and was a child prodigy with a photographic memory? i wish the author made her more relatable like bella swan. like i am okay with the male lead being impossibly amazing and perfect because it is a wish fulfillment to get a partner like that, but the main character being this perfect? idk, it just doesn't feel relatable to me personally and i get pissed off that stacy gets her chad.
the male lead, matthew clairmont, is super dreamy although a man like that would never look my way. he is 6'8 which is ridiculous because he turned into a vampire in the year ~500 when everyone was a midget because of lack of nutrition lol. and it is similar to twilight because every chapter there is a description about how cold his skin is, how perfectly pale and smooth his skin is, how smoky and grey-green or black his eyes are, how dark and polished and thick his hair is etc. personally really like the smut scenes though they are far and few between.
anyone else read this book? i am dying to talk about it with someone but i have no friends to do so with
I remember enjoying the book, but because I didn't pay attention to the author's name, I thought it was translated from Japanese. After I found it was just some American guy I couldn't take it as seriously, especially its language.
this was my problem with no 9 dream. also written by a white man, where he self inserts as a japanese young adult going on dream like adventures. combined with the weird john lennon obsession i couldnt get through it, despite dream fantasy novels being my favorites
I just read (most of) Misrule by Heather Walter and I'm really sad to say I was kind of disappointed. I really really loved Malice, and was really anticipating what would happen in the second book, but once I actually started it felt overwhelming and underwhelming at the same time. I thought some elements of it were cool at first, but there was such an overload of information and relationships and characters that I got whiplash, and I kind of feel like some of the plot points were clumsily done. The way the character's relationships developed pissed me off. I couldn't finish it because it frustrated me. Feels like she was trying to cram a trilogy's worth of conflict into just a sequel, and yet still couldn't hold my attention.
Has anyone else read it?