/media/ - Media

Haven't watched it, but the rumor has it that its shit, as in pozzed, watching it can give you aids.
I'll wait for more rumors before deciding if i'm going to pirate it.

>>35682
Best movie of the year. The moral of the film is basically, "If you are one of those angsty incels who idolized Joker in the original, you are a psychotic retard. Here is your hero getting gangraped." Few movies have the guts to say something so bold.

Also, that screenshot isn't even in the film. The marketing was very deceptive, basically tricking audiences into seeing the movie before shitting all over them. 5 stars, more movies should be this challenging.

>>35687
doesn't sound like you liked to movie on it's own merits

>>35692
does sound like you are one of those malding moids

>>35687
Don't know, they tried that with American history x and look how many poltards still worship that guy

>>35694
Edward Norton still gets to be cool in that movie. He gets to stomp on people and stuff. Joker, in the first movie, also gets to show off. Sure, he suffers a lot of humiliation, but he gets to commit cathartic violence in the end. Joker 2 gives the audience NOTHING. It's just humiliation after humiliation. No quarter, no respite. It's cruel, like a Gaspar Noe movie.

Starship Troopers was called the most expensive arthouse film ever made, but I think this takes that title. It's insane that WB burnt so much money on this, but I'm glad that they did.

>>35687
The original didn't suck because incels liked it, it sucked because it was a boring predictable ripoff of better movies (that incels like).
If all this movie has going for it is that it tells the people who liked the original to feel bad then that's just the director not being brave enough to stamd behind his own work.

>>35706
Can we in general shut the fuck up about incels? Who cares about whatever shit comes out from their mouth? Why do we have to revolve media conversations around them? Why must we care about whatever a failure of a walking moid has to say let alone thinks?
The first Joker movie is passable but because it steals from Scorcesse, the second one is pure shit because it doesn't deliver on any angle. They didn't even go all the way into the whole Arthur hate thing which could had been hilarious even if done horribly. The Joker 2 is just literally a nothing-burger of a recording that doesn't please anyone.

>>35706
It doesn't tell people who liked the first movie to feel bad. It tells people who think they are the Joker to feel bad. They should, and you are clearly among them.

I really liked the first joker. I also liked what I've seen of the Harley Quinn show. I didn't think the first movie needed a sequel, it was a complete story with an ambiguous ending that immediately has to be confirmed one way or another in a sequel. I don't have the money or anyone to see a movie with, so I haven't gone, but my sister went and she said it was garbage. Though I was mad that they made a sequel at all, I was still holding out hope that maybe it would be good, so I'm kind of sad it isn't

It's making moids seethe so I like it.

Loved the part where Gaga sang “Joker face”

>>35708
>Can we in general shut the fuck up about incels? Who cares about whatever shit comes out from their mouth? Why do we have to revolve media conversations around them?
Because, as the only praise this movie has received from both critics and retarded nonas alike has proven: the only thing this movoe has going for it is that it makes oncels angry.
No artistic merits. Culture war gotcha slop.

>>35682
Trump lovers worshipped that movie so i love it.

>>35718
I'm so tired of culture war bullshit.
2 weeks ago I quit every discord server I was in except for the ones I have close friends with and I wiped out my steam.
Its so refreshing that I don't hear about incels, politics, troons or whatever anymore every single day…
Talking about retarded culture war slop, I remember that "Civil War" movie hilarious how hard that one flopped, not even paid tv stations cared about talking about it.
I used to have it so good thinking Daria was bad years ago thinking that was as bad as cultural slop would get but then we have this and shit like that daily wire gay dad show and I think "how did we get here, is art truly dying?"

>>35721
>I think "how did we get here, is art truly dying?"
Absolutely every person making a living writing anything is deeply plugged into twitter now. They get every single idea from twitter.
All the jokes on SNL are just stolen from there, and every hollywood writer is just some no-talent nepo hack who is taking the heated argument they got into with basement dweller(s) on twitter and making the bad guys say the "wrong" thing and the good guys their self inserts.
It's why shows are all so petulant and mean-spirited with the nuance of a boulder now. All they care about is winning twitter flame wars, even after they've logged off.

>>35718
How a movie makes people feel IS its artistic merit. Everything else is decoration.

>>35731
Dumb as well as wrong.

>>35731
How people feel after watching bad movie #48,392:
>i hate this it tastes bad why did i sit through it i don't even like these people
How people feel after watching challenging and uncomfortable movie:
>i hate this it tastes bad why did i sit through it i don't even like these people

The "decoration" matters.

>>35731
Are you saying there is autistic merit in giving loser moids attention????
Yes I'm moving goalposts maliciously for you to reconsider what you wrote because by that logic Mr. Birchum is a masterpiece too.
No one is gonna give a fuck historically about any of this shit, literal twitterfaggots using and smearing shit over an autistic medium over tamtrums and childish spats fuck off

>>35735
>No one is gonna give a fuck historically about any of this shit

Taxi Driver, the movie Joker is based on, inspired a schizo to shoot the president because he wanted to fuck a 14-year-old actress. So maybe people should care.

>>35739
Taxi Driver isn't an "incel" movie and regardless some other movie would had been fixated on by that retard if he didn't saw it.
Blaming shit on media is fucking dumb narrowing down whatever to "oh he watched a movie/played a game/she read a controversial book" is so disgusting and reductive to conditions that lead to criminal acts.
You think any historian is gonna look back on twitter spats related to Star Wars Acolyte five hundred years later?
I literally can't help but parrot to myself "art is dead" every single day. Nothing worth shit nowadays is worthy of carrying that.

>>35734
If Plan 9 from Outer Space and Come and See evoked the same emotions in you then we have irreconcilable views about movies.

>>35741
Your example isn't controlling for genre.

Plan 9 From Outer Space and House of 1000 Corpses evoke very different emotions but are essentially equally meritous artistically and intellectually. There is a sense in which both are scifi-horror movies but Rob Zombie was trying to make a boring, grounded take on European extreme horror whereas Ed Wood was trying to make typical American spectacle without putting in the effort or money required.

House of 1000 Corpses and Martyrs evoke mostly similar emotions on watch but are on very different levels.

>>35740
You're literally the only person in the thread talking about Twitter. Your obsession with social media is ruining all media for you.

>>35743
Media can be blamed for other media being negatively influenced.
Media CAN'T be blamed for moids being violent.
You are the exact type of uncritical culture warrior our media class is pandering to.

OK WHICH ONE OF YOU ASSHOLES TROLLED A SPRUNKI WHITEBOARD

I don't normally stick up for scrotes but the rape scene in the movie felt very reminiscent and similar to how female rape gets thrown into movies just for edgy and shocking purposes like HAHA LOOK THIS CHARACTER GOT RAPED.I mean I won't go into it too much but I was 13 when joker came out and I was very attached to the character and the movie because I had never seen something that represented me and my mental illness so well like that so no matter how cringe the fanbase, it still holds a special place in my heart. As a victim of rape too seeing how they treated the joker and made him get sexually assualted just for the lols and to try and to try and ruin him made me very uncomfortable. Sorry for my rant

>>35746
>but I was 13 when joker came out and I was very attached to the character and the movie because I had never seen something that represented me and my mental illness so well
I don't want to be rude to you or anything but damn, 13 year old girls shouldn't be watching movies like that. The degree to which the movie had anything important to say is directly reflected in the degree to which the movie was able to reach this unintended audience of emotionally and psychologically susceptible people.

>>35748
Agreed but to be honest, men shouldnt be exposed to any kind of media too because the’re easily affected by it

am I a pickme if I liked the first movie?

>>35761
IMHO no, it's a very normal take along the lines of saying "I think Star Wars A New Hope was a fun hero's journey and Princess Leia was refreshing as a princess with some vinegar in her." Just like SW there's a lot to criticize about it and a lot of defenses against those criticisms. This movie's more like the SW prequels, right down to turning a lot of the people who loved Lucas/Phillips against them. Including some of the few academics who understood film on an advanced enough level to understand the Eisenstein technique references/homages in The Phantom Menace as direct inversions of the borrowing some of Leni Riefenstahl's film techniques in A New Hope (I was not one of those people I was a child why would anyone expect anyone to read at that level in a movie for children damn).

>>35761
The movie was nominated for 11 Academy Awards and won 2. Your opinions are not special or obscure. Get over yourself.

I personally liked it, it was kind of realistic, like the bad ending kind of makes sense and i understood it but ig the incel moids didnt like it because of that

>>35746
I'm gonna be honest nona, I also felt very represented by the first movie due to the fact I was raised in an abusive, dysfunctional household and had to become a caretaker of a disabled relative (a sibling) way too young. I felt like the world was torturing me and doing everything in it's power to make me go insane.
Movies like The Joker make me feel relieved knowing I still choose to be kind and loving even though I feel a part of me has been broken, and only now put back together and healing, although with scars. Don't ever feel guilty about liking something as long as it's not causing other people harm. Art is meant to comfort the disturbed, and disturb the comfortable.
I myself don't like the plot of the second Joker movie, it just seems like a useless overkill and destruction of the previous movie's idea just to make chuds in Twitter mad.
I wish that the consequences of the Joker's effect on society got explained, I wish we could've seen Harley genuinely becoming obsessed with Arthur and the Joker, but in the end she ends up ditching him. The real Harley Quinn was OBSESSED with the Joker. This one's just a bored socialite toying with a sad, pathetic criminal. It's just cringy and there's no good message behind all of this.
I love Gaga and Joaquin but man, the plot sucks really bad.

>>35837
Stay mad.

>>35696
>>35687
This is the truth and frankly I think maids need more movies like this. Like it should be the norm.

>>35841
>caring about "owning" losers not even worth thinking about instead of wanting good art to be made
No wonder art is dead when plenty of freaks like you think like this. I don't want to watch retarded G.I Joe action schlok shit exclusively aimed at moids with the women in it not having any use beyond showing ass (refer to bayformers 1, megan fox) and neither do I want to watch retarded art house shit that only appeals to political brainrot degenerates like this, cuties and rightoid shit like that mr birschum show.
I want art to be made for the love of it again.

>>35842
Stick to the Hallmark Channel, babe.

>>35844
Do people like you even enjoy sitting down and enjoying something for the sake of it to relax after a tiring day?
When was the last time you've had fun.

>>35839
Ok the movie sucks but making comic geeks seethe is based. Fuck comics.

>>35849
How about making good movies rather than bad capeshit?
Is this even a possibility?

>>35874
They're slowly moving away from capeshit and into just general nostalgia again. The same soulessness applied to tv and videogames instead of comics.

The only opinion that matters.

>>35847
This is a movie about a serial killer. You look really stupid right now.

>>35966
The fuck this has to do with anything?
John Wick is about a guy in a suit comitting a massacre and its one of the most entertaining things ever and this simply isn't it lmao.

>>35839
>a huge F You to comic book geeks and Hollywood
…yes, and people do not need to like being cursed at. The idea that everyone who does not enjoy being cursed at needs to learn to enjoy being cursed at is a very Tarantino view of the way dialogue should be written, but I had no idea he expanded this out to social discourse concerning society's relationship to fiction (the "fuck you to Hollywood" part of that relationship). Having fun being cursed at by someone who genuinely despises you from their position of superiority in a social hierarchy used to be called "toxic masculinity," in general.
And don't give me some "oh he's just alluding to saying fuck you to MALE comic book geeks and not to the enormous swath of women who author batcest fanfics and constitute somewhere around 40% of the BatFamily's core audience" stuff. No, no he does not. Harley Quinn in this movie is a particular fuck you to the women who like comic book villains moreso than to the women who follow true crime, and both categories of women are in fact women.

>>35746
>the rape scene in the movie felt very reminiscent and similar to how female rape gets thrown into movies just for edgy and shocking purposes
That's what equality looks like. They need to start raping male characters more for the shock factor alone, and make the scenes really fetishy as well. Bravo Todd

>>35761
You have to be 18 or older to post here

I was on the fence after watching it, because it was very similar to the first movie and I liked that, but thinking about it more, this entire 'fuck you' to those who idolize or even simply like Joker is worth nothing, when the creators already took the money to make two movies about Joker. They literally piggybacked on comic fans' backs and now are trying to shame them? lmao, they deserved all the pushback they got: and that pushback disproved the message they tried to drag in the move about people not caring about Arthur, turns out they did!

the ending also felt very forced, too