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Don't know about the new criteria, but I miss the Asperger category and find most of the autism acceptance community online cringe (not to speak of the amount of fake autists).

>>133373
I’ve technically got an autism diagnosis from early middle school but I’m pretty sure that it’s false so it’s just something I keep in the back pocket if I ever need to steal some social justice valor

i will never accept autistics

>>133373
I've heard a lot of concern from women about the new criteria, since the APA was claiming ASD is now over-diagnosed. This is impossible to prove of course, because psychiatric evaluations are confidential.

My concern is with women who are autistic falling through the cracks, and instead of getting the support they need and understanding who they are, being slapped with a BPD diagnosis and called a crazy bitch
>>133376
no u

>>133378
are the new guidelines more strict? i didn't read with too much attention, but it seems that the strictest criteria is
>C. Symptoms must be present in the early developmental period
which I can see could upset some peeople, but they also leave a lot of wiggle room with the
>but may not become fully manifest until social demands exceed limited capacities, or may be masked by learned strategies in later life

>>133379
The issue is that the current understanding of autism is based entirely on observations of little boys, and doesn't take into account the manner in which women are socialized differently–thus resulting in different outwards behaviours. Women are expected to be meek and quiet, so female autistics masking are easy to overlook.

Basically, if you're a researcher and your sample pool is entirely male, then obviously your results are going to be biased

>>133381
ADHD and autism are frequently co-morbid, and most of us have both.

But one big difference is sensory challenges. For example, when you're in the grocery store standing under the florescent lights and amidst a crowd of people, do you find yourself getting disproportionately angry or overwhelmed?

>I do get overwhelmed and fidgety when surrounded by a lot of things though
Autistic people call this sort of fidgeting "stimming." Which is a euphemism for self stimulation. It's an emotionally regulative behaviour we do to manage our well-being. It is not something people who aren't autistic do
>I know some people can hear buzzing from lights and I can sometimes but I feel like lower frequencies upset me more like the dishwasher rumbling through my wall and it's so low it almost hurts and it makes me angry.
Yeah that sounds like the same sort of sensory challenges I have. Yuo might benefit from noise cancelling headphones

I thought I had autism, it was recommended me and my brother both get evaluated for ASD (but weren't because my mom didn't want it) because we have a LOT of aspie traits, so does my dad, but I think we fall under the "broader autism phenotype" due to being gifted (and my brother I am certain has ADHD but I don't bring it up to my parents because he does exceptional in school, has no responsibilities at home other than pro-gaming 24/7 that it hinders him from doing, and him being put on the same damaging amphetemines I was on will do him more harm than good).
I got into researching it a lot when my assburgers bf brought it to my attention, I have come to the conclusion I don't have autism because I have always had fine eye contact unless I am anxious and my other body language deficits are so mild they're non-existent (probably an endophenotype I inherited from my dysgenic bipolar mother and not an ASD symptom), but I still love researching it.

the DSM 5 TR was literally a word change to clarify things and some diagnostic features that don't effect the criteria, who cares, people literally got all assblasted about it and made a bunch of petitions to stop the criteria from changing without even knowing what it entailed.
>>133373
Asperger criteria is hard because it makes it hard for adults to get diagnosed and ignores that sensory issues are a core aspect of autism (and should be a mandatory criterion).
ASD acceptance communities go over the top and spread literally factually incorrect information and seem to ignore the lower functioning part of the spectrum and will try to convince you its all the same internal struggle when its not true even for a neurological standpoint. Any treatment (I say treatment, not cure) is shut down for being ableist even if it stops behaviors that hinder quality of life, yet treatments to manage aspects of literally every other neurodevelopmental disability are supported and most are on a cocktail of mind bending meds for depression, OCD, etc. Its so stupid, I could write a book on whats wrong with these people and their ideas. I understand WHY they do this, because ASD isn't accepted or accommodated like it should be, but that doesn't mean you should spread false information and all these just wrong viewpoints

Extension of >>133391 reply here

>>133378
No the APA didn't declare that, infact diagnositic features were added that are beneficial for women to get diagnosed. It was one doctor who said "Autism isn't just a neurotype, its a disorder" and claimed it was overdiagnosed
, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense. If you have autism, you have autism, some people have easier environments to manage themselves in, that doesn't change the inherent brain differences. He aldo fails to realize that having ASD makes you at risk for basically every mental illness in the world which is challenging.
I understand why some try to gatekeep it, because the whole point of being diagnosed is to get help, and so it really only makes sense to diagnose those who need help (which is pretty much everyone with autism honestly).
>>133383
sensory issues are common with ADHD too. ADHD (real ADHD not tech induced attention deficits or kids getting put on speed to work like monkeys during the pandemic so pharma companies can make $$$) is honestly basically autism without social deficits (eye contact issues are common though). The genetics and neurological structures are incredibly similar with aspergers.
I would add that restricting sensory issues to hypersensativities doesn't make a lot of sense because there are hyposensativities, and then just general processing issues like irlen syndrome, auditory processing problems (words sounding jumbled, unable to remember verbal instruction, selective hearing). Also problems with balance, bodily awareness (the being aware of the size of your body, bodily functions like feeling thirst or the need to use the bathroom) are related and considered sensory issues. Also about 1/5 autistics have synesthesia according to some estimates, but synesthesia is hard to measure based on lack of awareness.
I'd say having no sensativities is unlikely though.

The dishwasher thing she talked about sounds like misophonia which is common in autism.

>>133393
>sensory issues are common with ADHD too.
Sensory differences are not part of the diagnostic criteria for adhd

>>133399
Just because it isn't a diagnostic criteria doesn't make it not a very common symptom. The criteria is just criteria, it is the bare minimum requiresments to be considered to have a disorder. To classify a disorder soley based on the criteria is ridiculous and an overly simplistic view of any disorder.
There are plenty of components of autism which are not diagnostic criteria but still incredibly common.
Also if the diagnostic criteria was stricter for ADHD they wouldn't be able to sell speed to children as easily.

>>133387
>It's an emotionally regulative behaviour we do to manage our well-being. It is not something people who aren't autistic do
This is wrong. Plenty of people stim and are not autistic, I'd say everyone does sometimes actually, its very common for people to bite nails, shake legs, fidget with things when they are anxious in particular. If you're autistic its just harder to stop and you do it a lot more frequently to a more extreme degree.

>>133373
Same. When I see videos of low-functioning autists screaming at the top of their lungs and flailing their arms around, I feel 0 kinship with them. They're violent retards. Aspergers should've been kept a separate category.
Also fuck self-diagnosing Tik Tok girls who post videos of themselves fake-stimming (99% of high-functioning autists don't even stim).

>>133416
>Same. When I see videos of low-functioning autists screaming at the top of their lungs and flailing their arms around, I feel 0 kinship with them. They're violent retards.
Holy shit that made me laugh so hard
>Also fuck self-diagnosing Tik Tok girls who post videos of themselves fake-stimming (99% of high-functioning autists don't even stim).
They're doing autism now? I thought it was just tourettes where they would pretend to tic out

Some dumb bitch basically turned my cousin into a joke for missing some social cues in their friend circle, then 2 weeks later she's virtue signaling on twitter for autism acceptance month and posting edits of the aspie girl meme.
Anyone tired of this shit?

Question, how do you guys manage such things?

Looking back at moments before I went full turtle brick wall zombie mode and ceased expressing any emotion…I had so many ridiculously embarrassing and even creepy moments.

>be made fun of for looking and acting like a school shooter in high school, other girls calling me "creepy" behind my back even though they went out of their way to talk to me to begin with and say I'm nice (I would have literally just ignored them otherwise)
>acted very quiet and evasive all the time through my life but then acted like a weirdo whenever I relaxed and actually was trying to have fun which I deeply regret
>several soft deformities + speech disability
>so many basic social cues I completely glossed over as being important. even to this day I'm pretty straight-forward in a way detrimental to myself
>be accused of being autistic several times and am a near 30 yo virgin who's never been hit on, only called fugly
>have autistic brother who is 10000x more social than me to the point where the entire extended family is crazy about him
>in the meantime I can't even have one real conversation with people and it hurts because I just wanted to be able to connect with people and live a fun life, not be some dumb cow

IDK if I'm autistic but let me say, I relate and I don't understand how women can "mask" because I can't even function normally.

>>133426
>have autistic brother
It's hereditary, you know

>>133428
Lol, that's why I noted it. My mom already was the black sheep of her family.

>>133426
Ah. Hello nice to meet you, me.

im pretty sure im aspie and i was always the black sheep of the family. any other aspies here had the black sheep experience?

>>133367
Should I go and get myself checked out?. I've always had developmental delays. I remember I didn't stop wetting the bed until I was 10 I think. I talked like a baby until I was 15 it was comforting. I usually hang out with people younger than me because its easier. I have issues with outbursts of various kinds. I don't know how long I've had it because my memory sucks but its been this way for awhile now. Even earlier this month I went to a concert and ended up hitting some girls thigh repeatedly because I just couldn't think or see or understand anything due to the music.

>>133595
ooo I also used to do this thing where I would do something weird with my hands whenever I got excited. I can't exactly describe it but it felt good.I very clingy towards certain things. Still have stuffed animals I sleep with and I used to have a jacket which i wore everyday because it was my jacket. Idk where is went :( I think my mother took it. Its actually kind of funny because my mother always thought a lot of things I do were weird which is why she told me to stop them but she says I'm normal and don't need to get myself tested for anything.

>>133597
Oh yeah also I tend to have a hard time figuring out when I want something. One example would be when i try and sleep at night sometimes I forget I'm sleepy and then I freak out thinking why do I feel bad? Then I remember its because im tired. I have a hard time talking about this stuff in person but I can write about it just fine.

>>133598
This happens with sexual stuff too. I remember in high school during 3d art class one time I was working with some clay and zoned out. Next thing I knew I was holding a clay bepis.

>>133595
>Should I go and get myself checked out?
You sound autistic to me but whether or not you should get checked out is up to you.
Could your functioning improve if you got help from a diagnosis (can get easier access to mental health services and makes you allowed to ask for special treatment at work)? Would it make you feel better knowing what's been different about you all your life for sure?
If you don't get a referral from a pstchiatrist or your GP usually its pretty expensive, like can be 2000 dollars and up.

>>133607
Oh yeah and you can get disability neetbux from the government if you are professionally dx'd

>>133607
>>133608
Yeah I have huge issues. My mother beats me I would like to be able to get out but getting a job feels impossible.

>>133609
No wonder she doesn't want you tested
Getting on neetbux might help you get away from her and by on your own, from everything I read you sound autistic and would probably definitely be diagnosed.

>>133595
>>133597
surprising how so many of the things you mentioned i can relate to. the only thing i am lacking is the baby-talk thing.

>>133620
>>133623
I didn't even know anyone could relate to this stuff. I just thought I was weird and shit. I'll try and get a referral from my current therapist when I go in for an appointment. Funnily enough I think she tried to assess me a couple of sessions ago about this too. Idk what she thought about it though.

>>133426
I feel you so fucking bad. Ive never felt human. I need to know if there is hope if there would ever be anyone whod love me. can any autist here tell me if their social life has improved and how

>>133817
In my experience, it only gets worse the older you get

>>133817
I met another kind autistic guy who became my bf and I befriended a very kind and patient girl. There is hope anon I promise you. Miracles come when you believe in them.

>>133817
IDK, I failed hard in the way that I let myself get more isolated. If I had, say, forced myself to get a job out of high school or got a huge passion I probably would have stayed pretty high functioning.
We do have some control over how things go but it's difficult.

>>133817
I'm still trying but so far no, it hasn't gotten any better. The 'tism and I always foul it up one way or another

I've never had an official diagnosis myself, but in the last year or so I've been considering the possibility I may be autistic because of a few things I never thought about before. Biggest and most recent thing I thought about was that my father is a weirdo, but thinking about the way he is in the perspective of "could it be autism?" has changed my entire view of him, and by extension myself because I'm just like my dad. I have considered that it could just be ADHD manifesting itself strangely which I do think is possible, but my fiance has ADHD and is also very possibly autistic. It's also pretty widely believed that there's a huge overlap between ADHD and autism. I know I'm not mentally sound anyways, I have and/or have had some serious issues with anxiety and depression in the past, and mental illness runs in the family (brother has BPD and mother has ADD) so that's why I'm so hesitant to slap the autism label on myself in any serious manner, just saying that I have some very serious suspicions about it like it's an indicator of what to expect when someone wants to interact with me.

Honestly, I'm not much of a believer in self-diagnosing these kinds of things because medical issues are complicated and misdiagnosing would be dangerous in some cases and embarrassing in most, but I can't really get the help because of money reasons. Therefore, I tried to get some sort of vague idea of what's wrong with me and ended up taking a few of those online quizzes. Has anyone else tried it? Some posters (and lurkers) may benefit from taking a few, judging by a few responses in the thread. This is the site I found for a bunch of them in case others want to take some: https://www.aspietests.org/index.php

I only took one test (the first one on the list) and wasn't very satisfied with it, but I want to try all the other ones. The result I got was basically "that's weird, maybe you should get that looked at", but a lot of these questions don't touch on the stuff I'm concerned about so honestly I'd say take these with a MASSIVE grain of salt. The thing I find most difficult about these sorts of tests is that it doesn't cover things I consider to be staples in modern autism, particularly what the kids seem to call "special interests" or "hyperfixations", particularly ones seen in fandoms. Hell, even just the internet as a whole. Maybe there's a lot that psychologists can and/or have learned from certain circles on certain sites? No idea if there's been papers written about it, it's hard to when so many kids online are merely pretending. I dunno. Mental health is so complicated.

They diagnosed me with high functioning autism which I think makes sense due to my obsession with list making and ordering things. I think it's probably part of what led me to be bullied as a kid which gave me my more serious problems (ptsd, avoidant)

>>133881
Do you not have insurance anon? Even medicaid can afford some therapy. A referral for psychological testing is very helpful

Having autism is the worst shit in the world, normalfags can SMELL IT from afar. Normalfag women bully me and normalfag men see me as easy to talk into anything(and then they invariably get mad as shit when it turns out im a stonewall). I don't want to get out of my house or talk to anyone, everybody in this world is garbage. Not even my own family likes me.

>>134010
…ok I'm sorry but who has people actively trying to talk to them? I know I'm probably just unattractive but it's probably been, like, 4 years since a complete stranger just talked to me and I ended up becoming friends with her and I still talk to her.

I assume I'm just ugly or people can psychically sense my bad personality.

>>133969
Unfortunately, no, I have no income of my own and live with my family. Too old to qualify for my dad's insurance and medicaid applications went wrong or something, don't remember the details but reapplying has been put on hold for now because of other stuff that's happening that's taken priority. Once I get married I'll be on my husband's insurance and can probably get help then, though that's been put on hold for a while too due to circumstances that are out of our hands. I've got nothing I can do now and my brother's therapist who spoke to me briefly recommended that I be on medicaid before I get evaluated.

>>134017
In my experience it kinda depends on where you live, I feel like the pandemic made people less inclined to talk to others but I live in a place with a lot of farmer-type boomers that'll make small-talk if you politely excuse yourself when reaching past them on a shelf at the super market or standing behind them while in line at checkout. Not really the level of conversation you get in a big city like Minneapolis or New York where some strange homeless dude on public transport will gladly talk to you out of nowhere about what he hallucinated about a year ago one summer night in the middle of a park. But what do I know? I leave my house maybe once a month these days and haven't had a meaningful conversation with a real life person that isn't related to me in years. I feel like I too give off some sort of "please don't talk to me" vibes in some way.

>>134778
No, foreigners can have a sense of humour too. Even Americans, so I'm told.

>>134768
i got tested and was basically told despite having a shit ton of symptoms indicating autism i didn't get the dx because i have ptsd

>>134863
wha? Can't you have both?

>>133375
literally same, i got my entire uni tuition paid because of it

>>133375
This. Down to a T. Don't know how they haven't raised suspicion on how I'm not autistic yet.

>>133817
why bother? 99% of the human race are disgusting piles of protoplasm with the personality of a microwavable meat-pie.

I genuinely cannot tell whether my social issues and mega confusion at social cues and sarcasm when I was a child was possible autism or just being an ESL immigrant child whose mother tongue has practically zero sarcasm and takes everything seriously.
I've never been able to find a therapist who's been able to analyse cultural issues and there's no resources online for distinguishing ASD with cultural issues either.

>>136752
I actually am autistic how do I do this

>>161829
Similar here but not due to cultural differences but due to being neglected. I wonder if me being neglected caused me to act similar to the descriptions of autistic girls or if I really might be autistic. Probably the former but I still struggle with some stuff neurotypicals aren't really supposed to struggle with so that's confusing.

>>133840
>>133817
Can confirm all my symptoms just gradually got worse after leaving college and then stopping seeing my friends regularly, i'm now a full blown neet and tard and can't even be bothered to relate to other people. I am in a relationship but it's not a normie relationship which i'm not really bothered by because I prefer my own company 99% of the time. I'd recommend finding someone else who's autistic or socially stunted to have at least some companionship.

>>162173
why?

>>133416
I agree with you 1000%

I’m high functioning and I do get pretty bad tics/stims though. My arms stiffen out/eyes roll into the back of my head when I get a good thought, or sometimes I’ll phase out and start walking around aimlessly without even realizing, even if I’m sitting down to begin with. Might be a separate thing but hey, I’ve gone my whole life with it’s barely affected me other than having to clarify to people I’m not having a seizure. Fuck the girls who fake it because I look like a total tard when it happens.

I use to hate being autistic but now I'm more okay with it. I was a non verbal / helmet wearing kid so that was really rough but now I pass as a normal human being. I found friends who are on the same wavelength as me and that helped a lot. Also getting hotter really helped because now i'm seen as quirky/interesting. The non-social side symptoms still suck ass tho I hate that I get over stimulated so easily though, and I get really intense nonverbal episodes that really frick me up.

I understand that this is an autistic space so I don't mean to encroach or anything, please hide my post if you feel it's irrelevant. But as a shizophrenic, I feel hard done by the DSM. I feel that a pill-pushing culture doesn't address the root causes of the phenomena people are experiencing, and prevents us from dealing with them in a positive flourishing way, because it makes them out to be something to medicate away rather than something to integrate into the culture.

I am so proud of my autistic sisters, and brothers too, for what you've done to advance the cause of neurodiversity. It's been a long time coming, but it seems as though people are wising up to the fact that these can be gifts if viewed the right way.

I am grateful for the public forum here in which I can express my views, but again, as someone who doesn't really qualify as autistic, I invite you to dismiss my post as irrelevant :)

I'm glad Asperger is being removed. Should be mor focus on the autism-schizoid link too.

>>162502
<3

>>162583
I'm not. I hate being associated with low functioning violent retards.

>>162594
Then why do you come here

>>162583
There is nothing to look into but the individual causes of each disorder which are undoubtedly different, despite sometimes havimg similar symptoms. There isn't really a "link" between the 2, infact they are mutually exclusive diagnoses, while many autists would qualify for a schizoid diagnoses, rhey dont because they have an autism diagnoses. Autism is a developmental disorder while schizoid is not, and oftentimes the aloofness and indifference of autists is only percieved by someone on the outside.
Just like 2 different physical illnesses can have similar symptoms, they can effect the body in similar ways, but the actual cause can be drastically different from eachother. Same sith schizoid and autism.

I have a autistic friend (girl), but I think that is a kind of autism. I wanna to get more closer to her, but I don't wanna mad her or make her uncomfortable. Usually I have interactions with her through chat. I have the following questions:
1. Why she never talks me? However, when I chat with her, our converstations are nice though.
2. Is there a signal of she don't wanna to talk?
Also, she's aspie-chan irl lol

>>162775
>Why she never talks me?
Impossible to tell as you've literally told use nothing about her and her circumstances except that she has autism, not everyone with autism thinks alike.
>Is there a signal of she don't wanna to talk?
This would be impossible to know, once again, unless you shared detailed chat logs for us to look for signs of disinterest

I just found this thread.
I was diagnosed with CPTSD but I think I have autism. I even took the DSM and made a 12 page document listing all the personal examples I have for each criteria and even interview several people in my life about my behaviors. I even tried to get it professionally diagnosed but it fell through and Im discouraged to try again.
My parents didnt believe in mental health and Autism wasnt well known back when I was a kid. I was always get told to "stop over reacting" and that Im "just shy." I have learning disabilities but my mom had refused to enrolled me in special classes because she didnt want kids to bully me (they already did) and her petname for me was already "retard."

I always felt like a alien stranded on earth, like I never belong. I had a "chuni" phase where i did think I was from another world because I felt so disconnected from this reality. Everyone is so fucking mean. Maybe Im just too much of a simpleton for this world.

I just hate being American, getting mental health is trail and error in trying to find people who would even take you seriously or are good at their job and I dont have health insurance. Plus finding a place that can diagnosed adult women is hard.

The only non autistic about me is the absolutely no routine, and that seems to be treated as the most telling symptom. I grew up with a chaotic home, there wasnt much of a sense of routine. I was constantly changing and in and out of schools. Now Im stuck in retail hell because I dont really have in qualifications and I've always had to deal with constantly shifting schedules. I've learn to just go with the flow.

jw, did that thread calling out the ashbie creator get deleted with the new active thread limit? i can't find it

>>133367
picrel is fucking weird because it's her hand but at the same time it also looks like her cleavage

I have been diagnosed with autism and it's noticeable enough that people call me weird/quirky/different all the time. I tried going to autism groups to make some friends in a place where I wouldn't get judged and it's all just moids. I tried making friends with a gay moid from one of these groups and he just used me as his personal therapist and he supported trannies, so I ended up ditching him and now I have no friends again. Autism is lame.

>>220608
Thanks, I hate it.

Is it true that people with autism tend to enjoy movies that all follow a similar formula?

>>220608
fuck

>>162775
Super late, but I'm an aspie and I chat like this. Not everyone is the same but I will say for me, its not that I don't want to talk, but I just don't know how to start a conversation properly. Usually when I don't want to talk I just don't respond for a while, I get overwhelmed. Not every autistic is the same as me, but hopefully this helps a bit. I'm sure she likes to talk to you

>>133367
the guy who made that character is a complete autismo faggot who goons to her. i forget his instagram but on it he just posts art of her

>>162775
1. dont know because we're not her
2. not every autistic person is the same, shes also a normal person it's not like autism makes you brain dead. one could assume that if she doesn't want to talk to you then she won't

>>220864
don't know really but for me i really love when movies are pretentious for a reason. like wes anderson does pretentious things in his movies and they have reasons to be there. if a person is being weird and acting like their movie is different for a stupid reason then i'm going to hate it. this may just be me and have nothing to do with autism lel :p

>>220297
autism in women is so overlooked - my mom also didn't believe me she just said that im shy and a little weird. this sucks though i hope you get the diagnoses you deserve

Would it have been possible that I was diagnosed in elementary/middle school years ago but was kept secret from me? In elementary school I had to be taken out of class every Friday for a speech thing with the counselor along with two other students. It was about how to read social cues and how to be more social. This went on every year in elementary school for me. In middle school, I had to take a full on class called "social skills" with three other students, and they were all autistic. In 7th grade I remember having to take a test about speech and feelings in private (had to be pulled out of class for this), and I also had a thing called a case manager throughout middle and high school. I also recall in 8th grade being told I have a certain disability but the teachers weren't allowed to say and my dad never told me. I do recall my dad saying stuff about aspergers during meetings that only special needs kids would have every year. I have been told I have autism a couple years back as an adult but now I'm confused? Was it possible it was being hidden from me the whole time?

>>221396
A lot of people's parents hide this from them, so yeah its absolutely possible and it sounds like it was. Ask your parents about it directly and they will probably say something like "I didn't want you to feel different".

i am a female autistic hi
i dont know if its stricter or not tbh
i wouldnt be surprised if it was because of the amount of autism fakers who are messing up wait times for people who wanna get screenings n stuff

>>221520
Fuck the autistic fakers, they make my blood boil, especially because these were the exact people who bullied me in school for being the way I am.

>>221522

True, watch them admit they weren't autistic in a few years and go back to their old ways

I've wondered about a coworker of mine, she's cool and knows alot about computers and anime but also kinda odd. She's kind of a loner, always super neutral at work, rarely smiles and wears soft fabric gloves most of the time. Sometimes when you ask her things it's like she freezes for a short moment and then often says something a bit weird. When you do something wrong she is quite blunt and direct but it doesn't feel like she's trying to be hurtful. I wonder if she's on the spectrum.

>>221522
Im convinced these fakers are actually autistic themselves, but on a very “subtle” part of the spectrum. They all act the same, have the same boring hyperfixations and would be total deviants in normal society, but they are social/“normal” enough to not actually be diagnosed most of the time. I would say they are even more socialized than normies themselves. They are so helplessly boring that it’s no wonder that nobody recognizes how similar they all are. I call it “social autism” and its similar to autism in moids. They are definitely those kids who put down and bully other “weird” kids, but that’s because they’re weird themselves. No doubt most of them have some fucked up fetishes or ideals hidden underneath their bug like personality

>>221129
>I just don't know how to start a conversation properly
Me too. I also don't know how to join the conversation or carry it. I don't know if people just don't want to disturb me or something because I'm usually quiet but it would help me if they asked me questions so I can start talking.

kinds off topic, but I hate when op pic tismo girl gets lovey dovey and all cute with little pepe on moid drawings, just f off… he doesn't deserve to even be near her…

>>222081
that's Apu Apustaja not Pepe, it's a derived but different character

>>222081
Hows this

>>222115
shes still right fuck apu i hate that faggot

>>222130

should i draw lesbian autism girl?

can we reclaim her?

>>222081
Yeah out of all edits out there it's probably the cringiest one

My first therapist said I'm autistic, my second that I just have social anxiety. How do I know who to believe? I quit both of them by now btw

>>222190
Self diagnosing is very risky and has a very high chance of being innacurate but try to look at the actual diagnostic criteria in the DSM5. It could help you point into a general direction.

>>222190
Sounds like you went to a shitty place. In my case I had to do a few written tests and was evaluated by multiple professionals through interviews that took a month. I was recorded and it was shown to more than one psychologist.

>>222190
Consider taking a third opinion at a expensive place. Money makes people more considerate, you know.
Only got a definitive diagnosis this way after 11 years of my mother trying around to get a diagnosis.

>>222190
did you quit them because of autism or social anxiety

I'm so tired of this. I try making friends again online because maybe it'd be good for me, and I just feel like everyone is bothered by me when I speak. I feel like people just go "ugh" when I say something in a discord server. I feel like giving up, maybe making friends isn't for me kek

>>222300
What makes you feel liek this, is it people's reactions or just a feeling you have?

>>222324
Its just a feeling I get. I hate it, I look into things people say way too much.

>>222130
I like the idea of aspie girl having a cute lesbian romance but not really into it being her twin. Anyone want to come up with a gf for her?

>>222482
Maybe a tomboy?

>>222488
Samefag, but I was thinking short dark hair

I followed a bunch of normal blonde women on social media with millions of followers that other normal women find likable to aggressively study their mannerisms, vocal intionation, facial expressions, and how they gesticulate with their hands. It's draining just listening to them speak and staring into their eyes through a screen but I am getting more compliments from copying how they dress at least. I hope eventually if I just completely change myself I will be able to succesfully socialize with other women instead of being hated by women and friendless.

To you aspies who learned to act normal, how do you react when so withing unexpected happens like eg someone asking you out for a coffee or some new question you don't have an answer to yet?

>>222081
>>222150
>>222166
How could anyone hate him? he's just a cute little dude.

>>222192
>Self diagnosing is very risky and has a very high chance of being innacurate
Being diagnosed by a professional can be just as innacurate. Like >>222190 has written, she was diagnosed with two different things, most likely because she wasn't going to therapy long enough for the therapist to get to know her enough. Things like autism or social anxiety aren't binary 0 or 1 and you either have it or not. These things are still human made terms for certain behaviour. Especially for things like depression I don't need a professional to attest me that I have it. Isn't it more important to find out what your problems are and how to improve on them instead of getting a diagnosis that is 100% accurate?

>>222571
>I followed a bunch of normal blonde women on social media […] to aggressively study their mannerisms
Please don't. People that put much effort into their social media presence are fake as hell and if you lurk here on CC I would bet that you you would not be happy if you could copy their life accurately. All they do is superficial and so are the people around them.

>>222583
Ashbie and Apu is probably the cutest meme we had in recent years. Even if Apu is used as a self-insert for moids it is still adorable and no comparison to the disgusting pepe and groyper characters.

>>222482
>I like the idea of aspie girl having a cute lesbian romance
There are quite some pictures like that. Just search for "ashbie and doomer girl"

>>222190
could be both, is your behavior purely anxiety driven or is it also a lack of understanding people, social norms, what they are thinking, and whats appropriate? Do you also have sensory issues? Hyper fixations? Stim? Autism can cause social anxiety.
>>222612
>Being diagnosed by a professional can be just as innacurate
Because professionals are trained to look for pathologies so what is more common is people are diagnosed when nothing is really wrong with them, than being diagnosed with the wrong disorder. It happens but professionals are trained specifically to look for this shit and will be way more accurate on average. I used to believe in self DX but then when you encounter the absolute inability of most of the population to research and make intelligent judgements on anything…I think its best to leave it to the professionals. This is evident by the amount of people who read a criteria and try to jam themselves in the box of a DX or check off the bare minimum requirements and think meeting criteria = having a disorder without exploring related disorders or possible other causes for behavior. A disorder is more than a criteria and most people are incapable of independantly researching and evaluating disorders in a nuanced way without having info spoonfed. So many people fake this shit or convince themselves they have something they don't. Additionally an outside set of eyes and new perspective is imperative to this kind of thing.

>>222482
How about this, shes dating cc-tan now.

>>222619
>honey take your pickaxe off the table

My sides. Minimal effort but very cute.

>>222619
I hope they get married and live a long beautiful life together

>>222190
Take a third opinion also how long did you stay with your previous therapists?

>>222619
this is weird af ngl because they look like siblings

autism related reddit subs are full of tranny shit these days and I hate it

>>223006
There's a lot of colorations between transgenders being autistic.

>>134863
me too! however i think i may be better off not getting an autism diagnosis as i would have to be financially reliant on people other than myself. maybe my autism will affect my future job (if i even will be able to get one) but i won't ever know until i move out.

>one word change to criteria for clarity
>reddit has a meltdown without even knowing what was changed
Hilarious. Redditards LOOK for shit to get mad about.
>>133378
>since the APA was claiming ASD is now over-diagnosed
That was one guy

I think the worst thing about being Autistic, is getting called mean or rude for making a observational comment.

>>223052
Can jobs really look into diagnoses?
This feels like a over reaction, like them looking into your medical history will breach your patient confidentiality. On background checks I seen them look for my past addresses, jobs and other information but not medical history.
You can always lie on you job application about your disabilities, I always do.

>i would have to be financially reliant on people other than myself
That's only in the case your diagnosis is serve, you'll more likely face a lower pay for being a woman

>>227533
I know the US military cares about what mental illnesses you have. But who tf wants to join the military?

Officially diagnosed and receiving welfare. Never had a job, never worked a day in my life.

>>227534
Ive had female cousins join the military but they did it with bad intentions and they were both dishonorable discharged for sleeping around too much.

>>227537
Lucky
I wish I had a neet life

I’m not sure if I’m autistic, but i have suspected for quite a while that I am. about a year or two ago I brought up to my mum that I thought I might have autism and she just completely shut me down. my brother is autistic, he got diagnosed when he was about 6 so he’s quite privileged to have been able to get a diagnosis and get support at a very young age. It upsets me how autistic women are much more likely to be diagnosed with autism later, and in a lot of cases I’ve seen women talk about how they’ve been misdiagnosed. I’ve noticed it’s fairly common for women to get diagnosed with BPD and then find out years later they actually have autism. I’m so annoyed that my mum will invalidate my feelings every time I try and talk to her about me possibly being autistic, she doesn’t even talk about it she just shuts me down. It doesn’t help that autistic females are way more likely to mask their autism and therefore it’s way harder to be taken seriously. I hate medical misogyny so much, I just want to be taken seriously as a woman.

>>227537
Same here nona!

Diagnosed here, how do you cope with being perma ostracized ? although i have one closed friend most people irl including in position of power dislike me. i am tired of being discriminated

>Autistic people make up approximately 1% of the population but 11% of suicides

>>133367
I've always wondered about the conflation with autism and psychopathy.

Being a psychopath isn't a bad thing itself, it's just that they innately unable to emotionally empathically connect with others.
Would explain why so many white people are diagnosed with autism being that white people have a higher rate of psychopathy.

>>267151
autism and psycopathy both include a lack of empathy but in a completely different way. Autistic people have sympathy, they just don't literally emotionally feel what other people are feeling at any given time. Also autistic people can't tell what emotions others are feeling intuitively like neurotypical people can. For me as an autist, listening to nts talk about empathy feels like they're describing some kind of magical telepathic powers.

>>267161
same with psychopaths, they have to learn about others emotions in order to play the social game for good or evil

>>267161
I don't think it would be accurate to call autistic people lacking in empathy. I've seen the opposite claim - that autistic people have too much empathy, just not the kind that allistic people can relate to

>>253741
Autism aside, if you want to be taken seriously as a woman you need to act like a woman, not a woman-child.

Everyone is autistic now, I don't believe them. New indigo children

>>267211
Or is it that our world is polluted and unhealthy to the point more neurological disabilities are popping up? It's not just self-diagnosed "high functioning" autistics, there's been a boom in severely disabled children as well.

>>267217
there's also better screenings for autism now so less autists go unnoticed

I hate how people claim to be all accepting of spergos until we start acting like one. I hate when I have very clear symptoms I get yelled at and told its not an excuse even though im having a symptom of being a spergo. It was so much worse in school as well and the so called "disability" teachers were the worse. They were tard wranglers that could only handle actual retards and not someone like me who was in fight and flight mode 24/7.
I fucking wish there was a cure as I can hardly leave my house or be triggered by the lights or too many colours. I cant stand being this way and people arnt helping

Abused one

Late diagnosed autistic here. Oh, God, how much I hate having to work everyday and manage the socialization with my coworkers. I'm literally exhausted.

>>268388
If there already was a cure, would you be able to accept it?

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