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Would be nice but I thought that to be able to stay in Japan you needed to be at least japanese descending or marry a japanese. I don't get how people who don't got any japanese ancestor neither is married to one can get there

Honestly from what I've seen, Japanese culture is about as toxic as western culture. It definitely is a very westernized country, and maybe they have some resentment about that or something that's leading to their high suicide rates, low birth rates, overworked culture, etc. I remember reading from some expat on another imageboard that half the workplace dialogue is about how refreshing a cold beer is after work, sounds insufferable.

Personally I'm much more interested in southeast Asia like Vietnam, or China maybe. Assuming I'll ever find the guts to leave my hometown lol. Vietnam seems way more relaxed with a lot less xenophobia cuz apparently they're of the opinion that they won the Vietnam war. Which is pretty chill I guess.

>>145826
You say that as if there aren't good arguments against immigration. For example, immigration dilutes local culture. New people move in and don't make an effort to learn the way the locals prefer things. Americans may often view this as a good thing because of 'diversity' but people the world over has very strong opinions against immigration for a legitimate reasons.

I want to move to Japan because I have a growing resentment for the U.S. and the kind of people here, but I do realize that Japan shares many of these issues, many of which are even intensified.

For one, the notorious work culture. I'm trying to become a software dev and from what I read that field is not seen very highly in Japan. The pay is very shitty, alot of companies will be even more bureaucratic - so will probably have to wear business formal (That kind of stiffness is just awful for software developers and there is no reason for it.), may be pressured to work horrible hours, then pressured to attend drinking parties (I don't even drink, so not sure how that one is going to work out.). Hopefully I can avoid some of these by just finding a Western company to work with, although it's unfortunate because I also hoped for a working environment I would be able to use Japanese more in.

Another issue will be the two-facedness. In the U.S., I do not like how fake almost everyone seems to be in an extroverted way and the pressure to be like that. But in Japan, I do not know how I will be socially intelligent enough to able to navigate the hell that is honne and tatemae, either.
I am sick of how stigmatized being quiet and distant where I live is, but in Japan I wouldn't be surprised if I started complaining about everyone else being like that with me too much because you will likely be practically alienated, as a foreigner.

So ultimately both may end up feeling like pretty bad choices to live. Other East Asian countries aren't much of an option since they all seem to have the exact same work/culture/social issues. Maybe I should just eventually go to South America or back to Europe, or something.

On the bright side, I can not wait to experience the kind of politeness and modesty Japanese culture has, since I am sick of narcissitic self-absorbed behavior that seems cancerous of American society (Being loud, never cleaning up after yourself, stepping over/pushing others, only talking about yourself and not even listening, being oversexual, etc.) I know Japanese people probably are just better at hiding assholery, but I don't care. I just want my space respected. Every third person in the U.S. at this point seems to have absolutely no regards for others. Not unless they're getting paid to do it, I guess.

>>145856
NTA but I knew someone who went to Japan on a business trip. Her male coworkers who had been to Japan before explained that she needed to not wear heels because the Japanese associate them with prostitutes and that she couldn't have a very active role in the meetings because the Japanese businessmen just wouldn't deal with a womam.

Not really. Japan is a nice place to visit but the weather and horrible work culture would absolutely kill me. Two separate friends of mine moved there pursuing a career; one came back in a year, the other in bit less than two, both just exhausted from the amount of work.
But maybe if the hours are least bit humane, it's doable. The moids aren't much to write home about apparently.

I am a huge fucking weeb who knows japanese and you could not pay me to live there.

Not only you are a foreigner, but also a women. You will always be an outsider and men will always have misogynistic expectations of you. The society in general will also be very controlling. From private schools checking the girl's underwear to companies expecting you to wear makeup.

Please also think about your future self and future children if you plan on having them. Being old in a foreign country is not easy, and your mixed children will always be discriminated against unless they look very japanese.

I don't because I feel like I'd never belong or fit in.
I hate standing out.

I don’t mind whoever the work culture seems way too strict and I guess Japanese culture in general. Not to mention the Japanese is reallyyyyyy hard. I’m brown so I think life there might be annoying as well because xenophobia is an issue but it’s also an issue everywhere ironically not that bad in western countries because it is heavily shamed.
I love the politeness and respectful aspect of Japanese culture, I’m tired of the brash and arrogant attitudes that’s popularized through western gen z

>>145829
If you plan on immigrating to a country you have to learn the language, yes English is becoming more and more popular but you can’t always rely on that. You’ll be making life unnecessarily harder on yourself.
You don’t have to switch religions or change up your diet if you don’t want to but that definitely won’t dilute a country’s culture. What’s diluting culture is the homogenization effect of Americanisation

Japan has a huge incel problem and most of the men there are disgusting coomers. I don’t know if I could feel safe around moids who have been jacking off to rape porn since they were kids and have expectations of women being submissive rape holes who are sexually available 24/7, especially foreign women who are supposed to be more ‘easy’. I used to watch a foreign girls vlogs from Tokyo and in a few videos she ended up getting sexually harassed and even groped by random Japanese pervs because she wasn’t fully covered in public. I could probably easily knock out the average nip moid but I definitely wouldn’t feel safe in a place where sexual harassment and date rape is socially acceptable and mostly goes unpunished.

>>146164
This. Japan is a moids paradise which is why so many incels end up going there to get laid. I can’t imagine how difficult it would be as an ugly or average foreign woman there too. White women in Japan are mostly associated with being Eastern European prostitutes and hostesses who entire capital is their pretty faces and good bodies. If you’re unattractive the lookism there is probably insane since they’re expecting foreign women to be models and prostitutes and the body shaming is extreme in first world Asia. Maybe less so now because masks are worn in public. But still. I don’t want random drunk Japanese men grabbing my arm and asking how much.

I can't because I'm from a piss poor country in eastern europe that I love too much to leave. Japan sounds nice though, best of luck to you and your move nona.

>>146169
Which country is that nona?

>>146200
They say it's because it's underreported

>>146201
>>146200
Yes. Japanese police are notoriously terrible especially when it comes to sex crimes.

>>146201
>>146202
crime rates of all kinds are still much lower than in the west
its true that it is intentionally swept under the rug but thats very much a thing in the west as well

there is a lot of bullshit that japanese are insane sex pests, super racist or that its hellish to actually live in japan because you have to write standard tax forms
its the regular 'anti popular thing' pushback from people seething over weebs who, in turn, worship japan like they can do no wrong

>>145803
>apparently they're of the opinion that they won the Vietnam war

They're not 'of the opinion' that they won, they pretty much did. Perhaps you could argue about the definitions of win/lose here, but it is generally regarded by most that the US failed here. South Vietnam (who the US backed) surrendered to the North.

I think anyone that wants to move to a foreign country needs to consider what you offer to that country, and if living the typical lifestyle there is going to work for you. The US is certainly not easy to get into, but I think we are still much more open than other countries are. Lots of places expect you to have a meaningful job that will contribute to society, and expect you to know the language. Don't just go by short clips on TikTok of people who are showing you all the best parts of their life. Try finding more in depth videos from people who have moved there that talk about the negative aspects as well. There will still be culture shocks, but it'll be good to just do your research.

Japan in particular you will face a lot of discrimination if you are unable to speak fluent/conversational Japanese. You can't move to Japan with the hopes of being an anime artist or whatever either, you need like, actual viable job offers. Of the westerners I know who have moved there they tend to have some sort of corporate job. Some are working with teaching programs but those are notoriously competitive and you don't really choose where you get sent to live, if you go that route you need to remember you might get sent to some bumfuck rural area that's a long train ride away from the fun cities. If you just want to check the place out for a couple years then teaching might be a fun option, it does seem like those who have done it had a nice time there as long as they don't hate the town they were placed in, and some of the teaching programs understand you aren't fluent but will expect you to get to know the language better as you live there.

>>146201
my understanding is that even correcting for under-reporting, the rate of sex crimes in Japan would be lower than it is in the west.

Even if the actual amount of sex crimes was like 4x more than what was reported.

The fact of the matter is the amount of crime in Japan is REALLY fucking low

>>146431
I believe that crimes like murder and robbery are rarer in Japan, but definitely not rape and child molestation. If anything it’s normalized there especially if it happens on private property or within a family. Johnny Kitagawa (Johnnys entertainment, biggest male talent agency in Japan) was accused of rape by multiple young boys and men but never received any punishment or trial, was protected by the media and was buried as a national hero.

>>146494
Violent crime maybe, sex crimes no. Japanese men are the biggest perverts in the world and CP is legal to possess there. It’s normal for adult men to bathe naked with small children. 90% of their porn is rape themed. They have to have female only stores, cafes and train cars to avoid sexual assaults and harassment. It’s not just a modern thing either, although it’s gradually becoming worse due to their incel epidemic. Nip mens behavior during the war betrays the fact they were all rapey coomers. I’ve seen and heard multiple accounts from foreign women about how gropey and rapey the men are. Yes you are way less likely to get stabbed or mugged there, but if you’re a woman it’s still dangerous. I don’t trust them at all and feel sorry for Japanese women.

>>145740
>I've been really interested with the country ever since high school. I am not really a weeb, I watch anime but outside of that am pretty normal and don't have any Japan-specific interests.
Still sounds like you are a weeb to be honest. Which, just to be clear, is fine. Just don't fetishise Japan like that, beause otherwise you are in for a rude awakening. If your life sucks in the US (or wherever you might be), it will suck even more in a foreign country with a language and culture you do not understand. Anime and social media are not even remotely reflective of reality and nothing any sane person should base major life choices on.


Actual immigration to Japan is notoriously hard. You can spend a few years playing the exotic white pet for some corporation or rich kid school, but to actually stay there indefinitely you either need a Japanese husband or a highly in-demand job (at which point living costs in America would cease to be a problem for you anyways).
Every Japanese man you will meet is either going to be a misogynistic incel or a corporate drone with crippling depression.
Every fellow Westerner you will meet is either going to be a degenerate sexpat with yellow fever or a naive weeb bound to crawl back home in shame after realising that Japan is not a giant anime theme park.
Most Japanese people are extremely xenophobic and will never accept you as one of them, even if you speak fluent Japanese and manage to assimilate flawlessly.
…plus everything else already mentioned in this thread. Don't be naive, OP.

>>146499
>>146500

https://www.statista.com/statistics/864883/japan-reported-cases-rape-and-forcible-indecencies/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/191137/reported-forcible-rape-cases-in-the-usa-since-1990/

5671 cases of sex crimes in Japan in 2021
126430 cases of rape ALONE in the USA in 2020

accounting for population:
Japan has ~45 cases per million
USA has ~383 cases per million

Even if the true amount of sex crimes in Japan were 8x the reported amount, they would still be less than the reported amount of rape alone in the USA. Keep in mind that under-reporting of rape and sex crimes in the USA is likely quite high as well.

The fact of the matter is that Japan is far far safer than the USA as a country. There's no reason to be any more afraid of Japanese men than there is for American men.

This is true for just about any other western country as well. Japan is likely far safer in terms of sex crimes than most countries in the world.

This person defending Japan so much is getting really weird.

>>146539
>nooo just believe my baseless conjectures about evil asian men
ok sis whatever
stay racist then

>>146540
I like Asian men. I’m actually married to one. I don’t however like or trust Japanese men. This isn’t a race thing. Even in Asia they are renowned as rapey perverts.

>>146536
What if I don’t trust American or Japanese men?

>>146562
You shouldn’t trust any men, period.
Japan just has more lax laws against these things which is a shame.

>>146563
'Lax laws' have an effect on their society. Being born in a country where women are always blamed for sexual assault, where child porn, child prostitution and violent fetish torture pornography are not only seen as legal but socially acceptable will affect your views and level of derangement. It's not a coincidence some of the most degenerate and disgusting porn of all time comes from Japan. And it's not like it's made for 4 or 5 sickos either, there's a high demand for it. Its not a coincidence they have some of the most horrific true crime cases either (Junko Furuta) despite being a well off first world country and supposedly one of the safests in the world

>>146580
I've known a lot of people who have gone to Japan and I always hear the same thing: I was invisible.
Japanese are especially xenophobic even among East Asians. The only ones moreso may be Chinese. They will ignore you, shun you, and treat you like you don't exist.

>>146580
>I know a moid who did exactly that
Is he the person in this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2FGgYp6mdk

>>145857
>Any attempt to preserve the previous culture of your society is actively harmful to society. It leads to cultural and technological stagnation similar to what Japan is experiencing right now, it leads to NIMBYism and a generally regressive mentality.

So, the Pakistani grooming gangs in England are actually enriching the local culture by pimping out young vulnerable women? That's news to me.

>>148121
British men did the same when they went to Pakistan and India. Lots of white men raping underage Asian girls.

>>148124
Yea its a man issue not a Pakistani issue. All men will form grooming gangs if allowed. Men are just savages like that.

>>146536
In Japan it's far more under reported.
I know awful men exist everywhere, but some countries are better at knowing how to deal with sexual harassment than others. Japan is not good for women. Which is ironic since the men there believe it's a feminist society and it's so unfair to the poor little men…
Learning Japanese and then reading comments from Japanese men on the topics of sexual assault was an eye opener to say the least.

>>148218
Pakistani grooming gangs are just an example of a regressive subculture that certain immigrants or the progeny of certain immigrants have brought with them to Europe. You said that any attempt to preserve culture in a society is harmful to it, but that's just wrong. Not all cultures or subcultures are made equal. Even though there are things I want to change about mine, there are things I'd rather keep unchanged and letting a bunch of people with ideas that are in direct conflict with those things I value piss all over them isn't helping my culture progress. Xenophobia is dumb, but so is the idea that preservation of certain values and norms actively cause stagnation and regression. That's just silly. Just like healthy hobby communities need a bit of gatekeeping to keep bad actors from coming in and making things worst for pre-existing members of that community, cultures need a bit of gatekeeping to make sure that new additions to their society are actually 'adding' something. Or at the very least not tearing stuff down.

>>148234
Uh huh, the middle east is definitely a shithole because of le evil murica and not its ass-backward stone age religion

>>148234
Not on a meaningful scale. Middle-easterners have a culture of it while Westerners do not. And Pashtuns are the worst example with 'Bacha Bazi'.

>Bacha bāzī (Persian: بچه بازی, lit. "boy play";[1] from بچه bacheh, "boy", and بازی bazi "play, game") is a slang term in some parts of Afghanistan and Pakistan for a custom in Afghanistan involving child sexual abuse by older men of young adolescent males or boys, called dancing boys, often involving sexual slavery and child prostitution.[4] In the 21st century, bacha bazi is practiced in various parts of Afghanistan and Northwestern Pakistan. Force and coercion are common, and security officials state they are unable to end such practices and that many of the men involved in bacha bazi are powerful and well-armed warlords.

>>148234
Islamists gaining power is the reason MENA is fucked

>>148264
Western society = hypersexualizes women and young girls, forces them to make their bodies sexually accessible to men from as young an age as possible, endorses prostitution and sex work, promotes men using women for sex then ghosting them, massive amount of pedophilia and child molestation and rape, has a society of porn sick males who hate women and have been masturbating to videos of women being violently raped and hit since they were 11 years old, encourages tranny shit even among children.

Islamic society = similarly awful but with less overt sexualization or tranny shit and more burqas, forced marriage, less rights for women and more violence.

Just because western society is a little bit free-er than Islamic societies doesn’t mean it’s much better. In the end, moids are evil savages no matter where they hail from and no society where men hold most of the power will ever be a pleasant place for women and girls.

>>148294
I also hate this
>you don’t have it as bad as other women from other countries, so be grateful and stop complaining!
Like hell no. Im not grateful I get to eat mud just because other women starve.

It’s all just typical moid gaslighting.

>>148294
Everything you pointed out for "western society" exists in Islamic societies. Iran troons its gays (or kills them alternatively). Muslims have always used prostitutes, sometimes even going through a small bogus temporary wedding ritual so they can do it "legally". Women are sexualized as hell, to the point of it being unsafe to not wear a hijab if you have bright colored or otherwise noticeable hair even in countries where it's not compulsory, because moids will rush to rape you (this is what a very religious Jordanian friend told me). That culture has all the shit that moids here have but turned up by 1000 and with women being seen as subhumans on top of it. Your cultural relativism is literal poison.

>>148331
Iran got fucked by the CIA/MI6 in Operation Ajax.
Mohammad Mosaddegh wanted to nationalize oil and actually help Iranian people and Western corporations said fuck that noise.
They put the Shah yes man back in power, but everyone still hated him. So they threw him out again and became turbo fundamental Muslims that hate us forever now.
But at least we don't have to negotiate with a secular nationalist government that cares about its people anymore.

>>148334
>WEST GOOD MIDDLE EAST BAD
Nah lol they're both terrible. The middle east has lower murder rates than the US.

I know this place is filled with ugly troons and moids now, but I'm just gonna drop some info for any real women who want to go to Japan and are weebs.

Japan is incredibly sexist and misognyistic. Sexual harassment/assault happens very often and in public, and I honestly think it's really irresponsible and fucked up that more Japanese-centered youtube channels etc. don't talk about this. I know a lot of popular channels are run by moids and maybe that's why, and some have talked about it more recently, but there are some female-run channels on youtube as well and they don't talk about it. And if they've been living in Japan for any extended period of time, there is no way they don't know about it. There are a few instances I can think of off the top of my head of women who recorded themselves being followed in public in the city in Japan and being sexually harassed and touched by Japanese men. This is not at all uncommon. There was a streamer who was followed and I think the guy even tried to touch her and she was crying. This was all during the daytime and you can probably still find it on youtube. Then there was another video of a black girl who was just walking at night and a group of Japanese guys following her and saying nasty things and trying to touch her.

Any female weebs in this thread, you really need to do your research. Just type in sexual harassment or "women in Japan" in youtube or something. It's not only in Japan, there is intense rape culture in Korea as well, for any Koreaboos. They literally have to have women's-only traincars in Japan for a reason, they make phones that have a really loud shutter sound when taking pictures mandatory in Japan now because of the amount of moid pervers taking upskirt shots of women in public and on trains. Oh that reminds me, I saw another video of a foreigner who was trying on clothes in a store and a young-ish Japnese moid got in the room next to her to try and take pictures. This is insanely common, women really need to understand how bad it is. So the anon posting "omg low statistics" needs to know that that is bullshit. The reason the statistics are low is becuase it's so common and goes unreported. It is way worse than America in the sense that yes, you have creeps catcalling you, but in Japan they literally follow you and try to touch you, sit next to you, take pictures. And for the person who said they would punch a Japanese moid, good luck not getting deported and permanently banned from Japan if you do that. The police are useless and dont' give a fuck about foreigners, they will always take the side of the Japanese first. I'm not saying you shouldn't defend yourself, I was just making a point that if they report you, you will probably get deported and banned, and how shitty that is. At the least, they will probably take the japanese person's side. But if you make a lot of noise and yell and are in public, it will probably scare the Japanese moid off more than anything. Maybe.

tl;dr

Japan is filled with creepy moids and sexual assault and harassment is very common, literally an everyday thing even for foreign women. Japan treats women like shit, just do your research. I would never want to live in Japan, maybe visit and even then you will possibly get harassed unless you have a moid with you or something.

And this is only talking about the sexual harassment part of how shitty Japanese society is, I could go on about other things as well. I touched upon the foreigners thing and how useless the police can be and how they will always favor the Japanese person even if they are clearly in the wrong.

Jut google and do your own reaserch. I could post some vids maybe.

>>148415
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9Hs9hi90Pw

Here's the video of the streamer who got harassed. Very sad and infuriating. Japan is no paradise for women, not like a lot of other countries are better, but weebs pretend it's some safe paradise, maybe for moids, but women are treated like crap, unfortunately.

>>148415
I’ve heard about all the things you mentioned but I think they’re highly exaggerated, as western media tends to do whenever it’s reporting anything on Japan
>’Oh would you look at those crazy little yellow people who live on that island in Asia, with their octopus porn, schoolgirl panty vending machines, funny squirting toilets and eating sushi off of peoples bodies! Aren’t they so weird and quirky and not like us! LOL how strange!’

Tokyo is a huge city of nearly 14 million people. That’s 3x the population of my entire country. Obviously there’s going to be creeps and weirdos in a population that size sharing such a small piece of land.

Most Japanese men are shameless betas who spill their spaghetti within 10 feet of a woman. You’re far more likely to be raped or seriously assaulted by a man in the west, honestly (which to be fair I think you did allude to). For all the stuff you’re saying about women being groped on subway cars, that shit is just as likely to happen on a rush hour New York or London line. I can tell you all kinds of anecdotes about homeless guys jerking off on girls on the NYC subway or pickpockets hitting women in the face and snatching their phones in London, but it’s pointless because it still doesn’t represent the wider experience. I’m neither the type of person to demonize or idolise Japan. It has lots of upsides as well as some downsides but to be honest from most people I have talked to, the upsides cancel most of the bad ones out. I know girls who have had dodgy experiences in Japan but that’s inevitable for lone female travellers in any major city and none of them have been raped or assaulted. I have also seen western female vloggers talking about how they absolutely living there. I’ve never met a weeb who genuinely regretted going to Japan.

If it was that dangerous or scary for women there, all Japanese women would be desperately trying to leave Japan and escape to the ‘safety’ of the west. They would be all dressing like nuns and desperately trying to avoid men. And yet, they’re really not. You can see girls confidently rocking micro shorts and stripper heels on the subway in Tokyo and nobody is rushing up to grope and rape them. I honestly think too many people conflate Japanese porn with Japanese real life. Personal space is actually a very important rule in Japan among strangers and invading someone else’s space is extremely rude.

Obviously Tokyo, like any very large city, is going to have its share of weirdos. Most Japanese men are very unintimidating and painfully shy. The only reason I can think of you having serious sexual assault scares in Japan is if you’re a very pretty young girl who wears low cut tops and very revealing clothing in busy areas. Then yes, you will probably get creeped on, as you would in any city by scrotes. The only time I’ve heard a foreign girl complain about being groped in Japan was when she was wearing a super low cut top and was hanging out in the red light district near soaplands and a bunch of pimps. Not trying to victim blame, but she was dressed like a hooker in a spot notorious for hookers. That is a really stupid thing to do and something any woman should avoid doing ofc. However if youre just a random female traveller it’s extremely unlikely you’ll get into any serious trouble with the moids there.

>>148421
To be fair she was dressed like she’s going to the club and hanging out on an empty street corner at like 5AM. From what I see the dude followed her a few minutes and touched her arm. Unpleasant and gross yes but he didn’t exactly throw her to the ground and start r*ping her. You wouldn’t do that as girl on your own in your home city so I don’t know why foreign female tourists think doing things they would never do at home is safe just because it’s in Asia. It’s kind of arrogant.

>>148427
Absolutely love living there*

>>148415
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmG9_n1SWxE

Here is another video of the foreigner who got harassed while trying on clothes in the store. Her story starts at 5:20.

You can read the comments, too.

I will add to my original post by saying that I was wrong in that some times the Japanese police will help you like they did this girl, but there was also clear proof there with the cctv footage, so that probably helped a lot. Again, I'm not saying you shouldn't defend yourself or contact the police, you absolutely should, I'm just saying if you punched someone, they might try to turn it on you. Just giving people a heads up because its' really common there, but the moids usually are cowards and they care a lot about social approval, so maybe yelling and making a scene is usually the best way to get them to fuck off. But again, just be careful because you never know how crazy and violent moids are. I'm really just giving a heads up that sexual harassment, stalking, groping is insanely common in Japan. Just do your research, everyone knows about it. And if you research further, you will see the other ways that Japanese society fails women, even foreigners.

Don't believe the low statistics, child abuse and domestic abuse is also awful but it never gets reported properly or convicted in Japan. There are companies that are made so that women they can help women hide and run away from their husbands. There is this awful story of a girl who was abused by her brother and mother and the police wouldn't even go with her to get her id cards. Here's the video of that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlHSl0vXBY0

I'm not going to post any more vids, but I will drop some channels that talk critically about Japanese society, you will probably have to do a little digging to find their vids focused on women, though.

https://www.youtube.com/c/LetsaskShogoYourJapanesefriendinKyoto

He talks A LOT about negative thigns in Japan, and he isn't about hating on Japan, but just calling out issues to change them, he is Japanese and lives there.

https://www.youtube.com/c/FindYourLoveinJapan
Another Japanese who cricitize Japan, and has a few about women, you might have to dig.

And the video about the idol girl, that guy is also Japanese obviously and has a lot of videos, too.

I couldn't find the video of the black vlogger girl who posted her recording of the Japanese guys harassing her, but it's probably still up.


I'm not saying you can't go to Japan and be safe or have fun, just to be aware of this and dont' pretend it's any better that other countries for women. You might be less likely to be violently attacked, but that's not exactly a high bar. I just think it's sad that women can't just travel alone and have fun, but yeah, you might have to take a moid with you unfortunately or just be aware of this. Just don't idolize any society that's mostly run by moids, which Japan definitely is. Do your reserach and be careful. I'm just posting all this because I know there are a LOT of weeb girls here that idolize Japan.

>>148436
I heard this from a Japanese penpal of mine a few years back.

Japanese men love oppai (tits) and the bigger the better. If you have noticeably big tits you are probably gonna get stared at a ton, possibly harassed or groped. He also said women in Japan never wear tops that show any cleavage, as in the old days only geisha wore kimonos showing their breasts and shoulders to signal they were sexually available. Nowadays if a girl is wearing a low cut top it has the same connotations and they still think it means she is either working as a prostitute or looking for attention.

So basically yeah if you don’t wanna get groped in Japan then don’t have big knockers and if you do, you should probably do your best to conceal them from the lustful gaze of Nippon men because they go crazy for big tits. You didn’t hear this from me.

>>148433
>To be fair she was dressed like she’s going to the club
Stopped reading right there. Moid-tier response and Japanese girls don't dress all that differently, short skirts are really common and she was in broad daylight. If you think dressing conservatively helps women to not get harassed in Japan, you are very mistaken. Like I said, they have female-only train cars for a reason. And that was in broad daylight, and that moid only stopped followig her because she went back into a more populated area. Don't victim blame her, this happens more to Japanese women and they aren't all dressed like that, even though a lot do, espeically in the city.

The original point was that Japan isn't a safehaven paradise for women that weebs try to paint it as. I'm not saying it's so much worse than other countries. In some ways, it might be a little better, in some ways, it might be way worse. I know that if a brother was raping and choking his sister in America, that police would probably do something about it, but in Japan, domestic abuse isn't handled as well.

The bar is really fucking low if you have to say "well at least he didn't throw her down and rape her violently".

Japan is not better unless you live in third-world country where streetrape is very common, not exactly a high bar. I'm just letting weebs know how common sexual assult and harassment is in Japan. Again, do your research and hopefully you won't have to find out the hard way.

>>148427
> I think they’re highly exaggerated
They are absoulutely not exaggerated, unfortanately. I think it's actually not talked about enough considering how common it is. And most of my research is coming from people who have proof like videos or the Japanes themselves. I posted plenty of vides in my post here from Japanese
>>148436
When it's so bad, even the moids are calling it out. Again, they have train cars and make it mandatory by law or something that all phones have to have a loud shutter sound so you know if a picture is being taken. That's all stuff by Japanese to protect Japanese women, it's not from "western media".

I think I've said enough, so I hope everyone is smart enough to stop being biased and just do your research.

Be safe.

>>148444
*womens only train cars

I’m not a moid. I’m trying to explain the culture difference between east and west. Showing any amount of legs is considered fine and socially acceptable in Japan. Showing breasts in public however is taboo, and has connotations of prostitution. I didn’t make the rules, thats just how Japanese people see it.

The only women who flashed cleavage in Japan in public historically were actual prostitutes who wore their kimono like pic rel.
It’s an old fashioned cultural thing.

Same in Korea, Korean prostitutes wore hanbok without the traditional sleeves and had their cleavage showing and it became associated with prostitution. And yea you’ll get lots of stares there too. You seriously underestimate how seriously Japanese people take these traditions.

To this day, it’s considered taboo to shave your pubic hair (both men and women) because historically only prostitutes and Johns did that to avoid catching pubic lice and it’s seen as a sign you’re dirty or diseased.

>>148447
Literally every female vlogger that moved to Japan I watched has stories (if not actual footage) of being sexually harassed by Japanese moids and none of them had big tits or showed cleavage. Many of them even wore Lolita fashion which japanese moids supposedly hate and find weird. Not having big tits isn't gonna keep perverts away, especially if you're a foreigner. Theyre obsessed with western women and see them as a walking porn category.

>>148459
that's the case most of the time with whites in non-western countries
even western guys get scouted to be in a JAV by randoms on the street

>>148457
>>148459
I've been sexually harassed in japa even. and I dress really "modestly". weirdest part was that it wasn't just old male hags, some of them were early teens

>>148436
Just wanted to add that the Nobita and Yuki youtube guys can get pretty moidy in their opinions or content, and I definitely don't agree with them or their vids sometimes, but I just posted the channels because of the helpful content in regards to being critical of Japan and some of their vids featuring/about women.

I usually just listen to the women's stories and ignore their commentary or disregard it because they will have some retarded moid opinions sometimes. Just a note.

>>148462

What is up with all of the pedo posting today

Go back to 4chan

>>148509
if you're referring to the shotaposting, that nona aint me
you're giving m*n too much credit just because they called old men ugly creeps

>>148459
Not trying to victim blame and maybe I’m biased, but I’ve seen a couple molestation/sexual harassment vlogs from Japan and almost every time the girl was wearing a top that showed her cleavage. I wonder why foreign weeb chicks don’t get the memo that that is a huge nono in Japan. Not even just from a personal safety aspect but an etiquette aspect. You’ll barely ever see Japanese women showing cleavage in a public space and if they do then they’re usually with a big group of female friends who can protect them. Don’t ask me why, but showing tiddies in public in Japan is just a huge taboo mmkay. I advise female tourists to do their research on the customs and social rules there, because they’re very different from the west.

>>148519
If you're not trying to victim blame or sound moidish maybe just stop talking, you're saying nothing but retarded shit that's proven to be untrue. Are you saying flat-chested women don't experience SA as often in japan? In a country where SA is so bad even the victim-blaming misogynistic conservatives had to make female-only trains and make it impossible to take pictures without the shutter sound going off?

>>148524
>In a country where SA is so bad even the victim-blaming misogynistic conservatives had to make female-only trains and make it impossible to take pictures without the shutter sound going off?
you try to have this come off as a bad thing when in reality its a great thing, they are actually protecting women instead of brushing it under the rug like in the rest of the world
I wish this was a thing where I live but it would never be allowed to happen and there would be enormous push back and harassment if the question was even brought up, instead they just pretend that we are a better """feminist""" country where such things just cant happen - while sex crimes are soaring through the roof and people dont feel safe alone outside even during daytime

sexual harassment and all crimes in general are much lower in japan than in the west, regardless of your anti-weeb seething, this is the natural correlation of having a highly homogeneous population
this doesnt mean that japan is a wonderland, its still 50% moids which all act the same regardless of culture

>>148394
What is the honor killing and femicide rate of the Muslim world compared to non-Muslim countries nona?

>>148393
No, they are not equally terrible. Or put your money where your mouth is and move to Iran.

>>148509
LMFAO. how can I control the ages of the guys who harassed me irl?

>>148528
>>they are actually protecting women instead of brushing it under the rug like in the rest of the world
How disconnected from reality can you be… We've established police will blame the woman when she reports sexual assault every single time and they legally do not interfere when it comes to DV because they see it as a "personal issue" but sure, why don't you ignore the statements of every woman that's actually lived in Japan or knows what they're talking about and move to your weeb paradise anyway? Being forced to take two stupid measurements that actually do very little to stop SA doesn't mean they fucking care about women or that the SA rate is somehow the same or lower than in other countries. Just keep covering your ears and living in denial, retard.

>>148531
>MOVE TO THE PLACE I DESTROYED FOR YOU
kill yourself westerner, i will take back whats mine

>>148528
Finally someone with a brain, don't expect to reason with these 1st world princesses, the only problems they have is which pronouns they should use for the day

>>148538
I literally live in a third world country with a very high femicide rate, you absolutely retard. That doesnt make Japan instantly better because it's the first world. It's better for men. It's safer for men. You weeabos really think that because there's less trannies and it's not Iran you're actually safe. Why are you even in this thread in the first place then? Don't listen to other women's experiences, just move and live alongside the misogynistic coomers. You're probably the same anons posting all that cp anyway, you'll fit right in.

>>148537
Please, take it back, build a giant wall around it and stay there. Make sure to never come back, along with your shitty moids and your progeny.

>>148539
>I live in a 3rd world country
>that doesnt make japan better because its a 1st world country
it does in every singular metric, for example the femicide rate is one of the lowest on the planet

I dont get if you a moid purposefully being daft so you can have an argument or if you are have some sort of developmental disability
but arguing that a side with more crime is better than the side with less on the notion its not completely crime free and that they act against it, unlike the other side, is absolute schizo lunacy
no matter how much you seethe reality will not bend and japan will remain safer

>>148528
It's the same in my western country. Rather than admit that men are rapey perverts and women need to actively protect themselves and be protected from moids, we have this strong independent woman mindset that says men and women are equal and that there's no differences between us.

This inadvertently sweeps the fact that men commit 95% of rapes and murders under the rug and completely ignores it. The big media outlets here are so weird too, they're more focused on painting women as bad through reporting some random red herring, 1 in a million cases of women committing serious crimes, than reporting all the rapes and attacks that men commit here daily. So the mindset here is 'women are just as capable of evil as men and we are all equal' rather than telling the truth that we are NOT equal and men commit FAR more serious crimes than women.

As a result, women here don't even take basic precautions. Drunk women staggering home at 3AM in booty shorts and tube tops are told they're strong and powerful and don't need to worry about getting raped or murdered because we live in a first world country and we should all be so grateful. Of course rapes and murders still happen here all the time, overwhelmingly committed by local moids.

You're not allowed to carry any self defense weapon and there are no female only spaces here. Everything is moid friendly or tranny friendly. When I see women from Iran or Japan talking about having female only cafes and walkways and transportation, I honestly feel incredibly jealous and also impressed that their governments are happy to admit men are bastards and that women need their own spaces.

In my white first world country, there's a false narrative that first world white men don't rape or murder, and that only immigrant moids would act so savagely. Despite rapes and murders by first world local white men being in the small local newspapers here all the time. It's so fucked.

>>148530
It's literally way higher in South America, eastern Europe and South East Asia than Muslim countries. I think the only Muslim country that made the list is Kazakhstan and they're not even that religious by Islamic standards.

I'm not trying to defend Islam so I'm not sure what you're insinuating. I'm just pointing out the US has a higher murder rate. A Muslim killing another Muslim is a huge sin. It usually only happens in hick villages that are the equivalent of Middle eastern trailer parks.

>>148565
>There is literally ZERO evidence for this being the case
Except for all the evidence that was already posted in this thread: the videos and stories and also the native Japanese moids who dedicate youtube channels to drawing attention to the many ways Japan is shitty, and how misognyistic it is. The video of the Japanese idol girl who got regularly choked and raped by her brother, yet the police don't give a fuck that she is being stalked by her family still and wouldn't even go to get her id cards with her.

There was another old story on youtube where a foreigner woman got beat by her Japanese husband and the police laughed it up with her husband when they came to the door and left so her husband could resume beating her. This was about 10 or so years ago, though. Child and domestic abuse is still a big problem in Japan, though. Just google it like I stated before. Don't listen to some delusional and biased weeb in a thread like this.

And as far as the "statistics" you posted, here's a video directly addressing it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dajKNczCPRs

He explains that 90% of molestation "chikan" cases go unreported, and that only 1/3 that are reported or convicted counted on the surveys. He literally says that Japan possibly has the highest cases in the world of chikan and the number in reality is closer to 100,000 per year. And that's only for chikan, not rapes and other awful crimes.

So yeah, as repeatedly stated by others in this thread, your weeb delusions and "statistics" are bullshit.

No one is saying there aren't more unsafe places for women in the world, but Japan is definitely not a safe place for women, either.

There are obviously ugly moids in this thread, anyway. Keep seething that women don't think your retarded incel weeb paradise is better than the big bad "feminist" countries. Japanese women don't want to marry incels, either. That's why they think otaku are disgusting and are choosing not to get married. Feminism in Japan shits on incels again!

Sometimes I wander, how do japanese women deal with this weaboos who fetishize then and try to visa scam them? I live in a shithole where there a lot of moids who are obsessed with them and dream to visa scam a "uwu submissive hot waifu", it's really disgusting

>>148576
I don’t think they care that much. Less than 1% of people in Japan are male foreigners.

Am I the only one who finds Japanese food disgusting? It’s so slimy, fishy, raw and gross and the side dishes are full of weird things like roots or jellies that most people wouldn’t even consider actual food. Meanwhile every kind of Korean food I’ve ever tried, both restaurant and cook at home tier, was absolutely delicious.

>>148578
I don’t get the hype around sushi at all. It tastes really bad to me.

>>148578
>roots
I also hate conjac except in the rare exception of in well-made dote (basically meat/offal stew)

Japan has the same food you posted, it's called inari zushi.

>>148587
I’ve tried Korean and Japanese food that was basically the same dish and the Korean version always tastes better, without fail. Maybe they just dump more MSG into it, idk. All prepackaged Japanese food, even the sweet things, have this slight underlying musty fishy quality that’s very unpleasant.

>>148578
Personally, that is the reason Japanese food is my favorite Asian food. I like it when I can taste the actual ingredients instead of piles of seasoning that always taste the same.

>>148563
None of those countries is "Western". Do Muslim countries even record their femicide rates?
I feel lucky every day that I was born in Western Europe.

>>148727
I assumed they meant rencon (lotus root) or konjac since they later mentioned jelly.

>>145876
This.

I lived in japan for 6 month for a school exchange and I always felt like a living foreigner museum. Classmates would go home with me just to make a picture with me and then never speak to me again. A lot of people there just see you as a foreigner but not as a person and most of the time you will always feel like an outsider if you move there… The only thing you can do is to find other foreign friends to connect with so you won't feel lonely if you move there

Would I have a better time if I'm a Chinese-American? Then I wouldn't be so obviously a foreigner?

>>149091
On a surface appearance basis only then yes, but Japanese people are still racist to Chinese people unfortunately.

>>149091
You are still a foreign then, unless you can speak perfect japanese. Once they find out you will get the same treatment + some racism from those who hate non-japanese asians.

>>149111
NTA but my Japanese friend also told me so. Koreans also get shat on (even 2nd gen), even though the younger generation is into Kpop.

>>149091
Outside of America, a lot of people don't get the concept of hyphenated Americans. In Japan and pretty much anywhere else too, you'll just be seen as Chinese.
And the other anon is correct about prejudice towards Chinese people. But from what I've read, some people can go years in Japan without meeting a single prejudiced asshole while others attract them like flies, so I guess it depends on luck and language skills whether you'll have more positive or more negative experiences in Japan.

Everyone ITT tried to shit on OP’s dream of going to Japan and dissuade her. God damn why is this board so bitter and negative. No wonder all the nice people are leaving and only psychos remain.

I would consider vacationing in Japan but I don't think I want to live there. I should at-fucking-least visit the place before I decide "yep, I'm moving my whole livelihood here!"

Japanese men seem to be a mix of attractive and unattractive. Some of them are pretty and others are just bumps on a log.

I would love to move there and live in a nice apartment and go to cute cafes, but it’s simply far too expensive and I’m not that interested in learning the language. I also think the 90s and early 2000s would have been the best time to visit, everything looks a little scuffed and run down now because so many of the buildings were constructed in the 70s and 80s and are 50+ years old now.

I wouldn't mind moving to Japan, but I don't want to spend 10 years learning the language or be functionally illiterate in a place where many documents and legal papers are still processed by hand. What I've read about the work culture in Japan disgusts me (staying late just to pretend to work, aggressively kiss boss ass, mandatory moid drinking party, being expected to make tea for superiors)
>>148290
We have child drag queens in America too. I'm sure some are being raped.
>>148541
>>more crime is better than the side with less on the notion its not completely crime free and that they act against it, unlike the other side, is absolute schizo lunacy
You're right about this one. I would rather live in the nice part of the city rather than the hood, even if the crime rate is non-zero.
>>148570
You make a good point. Crime should be accurately recorded and prosecuted in all countries. In order to do that, police and the Justice system need to be well funded and not corrupt.
>>148587
You don't like fruit flavored konjac drinks? They're low cal (~6 cal) and filling.
>>149091
At least you're a little more familiar with Chinese characters/Kanji and Asian culture than your average weeaboo. I've been trying to learn Kanji and seeing a bunch of lines mashed together means nothing to me. It's hard.