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Princess movies brainwashing little girls Anonymous 164486

Last night I was babysitting and remebered a little film I used to watch when I was little called Thumbelina. I turned it on because I hadn't seen it in a long time, not remembering much of the plot.

The whole damn movie is about this teenage girl getting KIDNAPPED by creepy rapey old moids obviously intended to be old enough to be her father, or being coerced into marriage by creepy women who stand something to gain from her marital prospects.
Thumbelina herself doesn't have much of a character, she's just "uwu sweet and soft and beautiful wittle girl" and for no reason side characters who also have no personality jump to help her.
Of course she gets saved by le handsome prince at the end, who she knew for 2 seconds, and he ALSO risked his life for her.

The takeaway:
"women are prizes to be bargained and sold to the male of highest value"

Also the character design for the toad family is frankly really racist. Its hilarious. I think she is kidnapped by them at 20 minutes of the movie https://youtu.be/QwgGnYUhqOg
Her son's name is literally "gringo", and here is thr hilarious over sexualized design of Mrs. Toad.
And this wasnt a 50s movie like lady and the tramp (don't let the garbage animation let you think otherwise) its from 1994!! The racism really can't be excused.

This is the RAPIEST and most RACIST princess movie of all fucking time.

Anonymous 164686

wtf happened to all th3 other replies in this thread???

Anonymous 164690

>>164686
It's always been bearstain anon, don't question it.

Anonymous 164691

>>164486
Don Bluth was a weird man and other people were constantly trying to stop him from implementing his bad ideas in his movies. It didn't always work.

Anonymous 164756

i used to love thumbelina

Anonymous 164757

>>164756
Nta from earlier but Don Bluth did some good work and naturally never let the artist ruin the nostalgia for any art you saw. That's the beauty of any art, the viewer can impose their own message or feeling to it and usually end up at least partially correct even if the artist disagrees. It's just a subjective concept overall.

Anonymous 164762

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>>164486
I share a similar sentiment with disney movies. They might feature pretty animation and the princesses might have a bit more personality than Thumbelina but it still feels like movies that were made to brainwash little girls into abusive relationships. I've known this woman that I met in university that told me she thought real love was like what you see in Disney movies and ended up traumatised by some moid that abused and lied to her. I'm pretty sure there is a study that shows how the level of identification with Disney princesses found in a young girl correlates to the potential abuse they might have normalised for themselves. I'm pretty sure you could find the study that mentioned that with goole scholar.

Anonymous 164764

>>164762
Okay but wheres Mulan and Pocahontas?(non-sequels, they don't count)Naturally I'm not excusing the examples there but rather wish to hear your thoughts on how they would compare to the theory.

Anonymous 164776

>>164764
Mulan goes from a fierce badass warrior who saved a bunch of moids lives to being demoted to some sexist pampered moid’s concubine.

Pocahontas left behind her tribe and family for some white scrote in England to become his exotic human zoo bedwench. It’s really not a good message to send to young girls either.

Anonymous 164777

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>>164776
Pocahontas’s real life is hella sad too. She was kidnapped by white men, held for ransom against her tribe, forced to marry some Angloid coomer at 17 who marital raped her and she gave birth to a son. Pocahontas then died at age 20. The son’s Angloid dad apparently abandoned him and the kid never saw him again.

Anonymous 164778

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>>164776
>Mulan goes from a fierce badass warrior who saved a bunch of moids lives to being demoted to some sexist pampered moid’s concubine.
>Pocahontas left behind her tribe and family for some white scrote in England to become his exotic human zoo bedwench. It’s really not a good message to send to young girls either.
Picrel
>>164777
Yeah honestly it was very fucked up and one thing I didn't mind Disney modifying for once though naturally she should have ended up leading the tribe and marrying the nice indian scrote who should have let her be herself more.
As for Mulan I do agree though I wonder if it would have sparked this gender debate a lot earlier if Mulan kept dressing like a man the whole movie and became head of the Emperor's guard instead of some doll for him to wheel out and make people clap.

Anonymous 164779

>>164776
In the second movie Pocahontas dumps that white scrote for a new one iirc. Never saw that in disney movie lol

Anonymous 164780

>>164779
It is true that she got captured by John Smith and his crew then was married off to some other scrote plantation owner called John Rolfe.

Anonymous 164782

>>164778
Shang is impressed by her badassery but only when he knows her as a man. In the scene where the doctor and scribe see her boobs and the scribe calls her ‘a woman, a treacherous snake’. Shang is extremely pissed off and the scribe encourages Shang to behead her. Shang is about to slice her head off with a sword, but then hesitates and ultimately doesn’t, only because she ‘saved his life’ and his ‘a life for a life’ ethos. This means if she hadn’t saved his life he probably would have murdered her.

Then at the end she returns to her dull domestic life and Shang plans to marry her. So basically despite being the best warrior in China she still is going to be maid into a handmaiden, and probably a concubine as it was traditional for high ranking men in Chinese culture at that time to have harems.

Mulan has to save her dad’s life, her army, the emperor, Shang, AND all of China in order to get a tiny bit of respect as a woman. All while larping as a man. She’s a FTM whiteknight for scrotes basically. It’s actually really depressing.

Anonymous 164783

>>164782
Made into a handmaiden**

Anonymous 164787

>>164782
>Shang is impressed by her badassery but only when he knows her as a man. In the scene where the doctor and scribe see her boobs and the scribe calls her ‘a woman, a treacherous snake’.
Bookmen calling women snakes, the irony was never missed by me even when I saw it as a kid.
>Shang is extremely pissed off and the scribe encourages Shang to behead her. Shang is about to slice her head off with a sword, but then hesitates and ultimately doesn’t, only because she ‘saved his life’ and his ‘a life for a life’ ethos. This means if she hadn’t saved his life he probably would have murdered her.
Yeah honestly made me stop rooting for the guy as the other men in her little group all were actually rather accepting of it and sure had some hesitation but went back to trusting her and following her leadership after the shock wore off. Which I always thought was nice to see even though yeah the rest of the movie sends the opposite message there.
>Then at the end she returns to her dull domestic life and Shang plans to marry her. So basically despite being the best warrior in China she still is going to be maid into a handmaiden, and probably a concubine as it was traditional for high ranking men in Chinese culture at that time to have harems.
The one she hated in the beginning and no doubt hates even more after having experienced what actually made her happy.
>Mulan has to save her dad’s life, her army, the emperor, Shang, AND all of China in order to get a tiny bit of respect as a woman. All while larping as a man. She’s a FTM whiteknight made into a handmaiden for scrotes basically. It’s actually really depressing.
It really is, it really is.
That's the world sometimes, just, not really too accepting if ya missed out on the birth lotto and don't fit into your accepted mold, wish it would change but I doubt it ever will.

Anonymous 164791

It’s ovar.

Anonymous 164793

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>>164791
Whenever I think that, I just remember picrel. For context the character died and technically his(none of them have gender really but)race had no way to make children yet there they are.
So too can your ideologies spread in the weirdest of ways that you would never expect until you see it happen.

Anonymous 164918

>>164768
Anon you made me curious but I haven't been to find much on this subject, please tell me more

Anonymous 164978

Mulan wasn’t even Chinese she was a Xianbei, who were proto-Mongolian people. Her name was a sinified version of a proto-Mongolian name. It makes more sense that she would be a Mongolian woman because it wasn’t uncommon for Mongolian women trained in stuff like archery and eagle hunting, compared to Chinese women of that time.

Just because she was fighting a tribe of Huns/Mongols doesn’t mean she was Chinese. Mongolia at that time was made up of hundreds of different warring tribes and the tribes fought amongst themselves a lot in a struggle for dominance and power over the regions. The more you know.

Anonymous 164979

>>164978
To be trained in stuff like**

Anonymous 164981

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Anonymous 165090

>>164978
Just another case of the CCP warping history and using it as Chinese propaganda.

Anonymous 165097

>>164978
>>164981
>>165087
>>165090
It's complicated, but the Xianbei are Chinese, just not necessarily Han, although they might be. The short version is
>Xianbei found the Northern Wei
>Sinicise themselves by intermarriage with Han and adopting Chinese government, politics, names and culture while retaining some personal practices
>Northern Wei splinters into many dynasties, is briefly reunited, then is absorbed into the Tang, founded by the Li dynasty
>the Li dynasty had both paternal Han and maternal Xianbei heritage

There's a lot of confusion in the West because Chinese lineage did not work like European, and was both cultural and biological. The original term for Han denoted the Huaxia, which was a confederation of various states and tribes which were "civilised" compared to nomadic "barbarians". Being from China does not make you Chinese. For example the Yayoi people came from Yunnan less than three thousand years ago but are not considered Chinese.

Anonymous 165285

>>164776
>>164782
>>164787
Mulan wasn't a bad movie at all. She literally proved herself to be an excellant warrior and while after finding out she was a woman her male peers were upset, they ultimately trusted her and respected her excellant military skill, which is something huge in a culture like hers.
She returns home because she hasnt seen her family and they might be worried she's dead, and Shang falls in love with her not because of some vain reason like her being super beautiful (like in all the other disney movies), but because of her intelligence and skill.
She does not become his concubine or bangmaid, nor was that really implied, she retained her high rank in the sequel (although the sequel has its own slew of problems with sexism, where iirc she almost marries some moid she didn't like to take the burden off of another girl).
In general, its about a woman proving herself and her worth BEYOND being a bangmaid handmaiden in a heavily patriarchal society. It was always my favorite disney movie and the songs are really fantastic.

Anonymous 165286

>>165285
Mine too , mine too.

Anonymous 165296

>>165090
>le evil see see pee
Go back to Reddit

Anonymous 165381

>>165296
Everyone hates the CCP especially all of Asia lol cry harder Xi and go fall into a sinkhole.

Anonymous 165384

>>165097
The intermarriage of Xianbei Nomadic women with Han Chinese men didnt start until hundreds of years after the Ballad of Mulan was written dumdum.

Han Chinese moids tried to use rape as a form of ethnic genocide because they couldnt get laid otherwise. They're still doing it now by forcing Uyghur women into marriages with Han Chinese incels.

Xianbei people's DNA is genetically closest to Ulchi, Kazakhs, Mongols and Buryats, none of whom are Chinese btw. Even Northern Chinese people who lived in very close proximity dont have much genetic commonality.

>being from China doesnt make you Chinese

Yes. And someone should tell that to China so they stop trying to erase all the different cultures and peoples who happen to be under their shitty evil government's zone.

Anonymous 165390

>>164762
>>164776
>>164777
Thanks anons, I never watched these movies as a kid because I never found the whole princess shtick interesting. Now I have some more ammunition against it.

>>165296
The irony is that reddit's updoot/downdoot system most resembles China's social credit system, and pointing this out gets you many downvotes (they removed my post on controversial opinions where I mocked redditors, saying China's social credit system should be adopted everywhere irl because it's just like upvotes and downvotes, everyone would get real-life karma that lets you see whether they're good or bad. Redditors didn't seem to like this opinion at all it seems [I guess you could say it was truly unpopular]. I spent ages grinding karma just so I could post on that account too).

With that said, China is technically bad (it's an empire after all), but it's always infuriating hearing about "Chinese propaganda" when American propaganda is so much more widespread and invasive. It's staring us right in the face in the form of Disney movies and yet it's China's propaganda that's truly outrageous here… Among other forms of propaganda is the sheer power of American soft propaganda. Statistically speaking, almost all English speaking movies and TV shows have AMERICAN voices, even though there are several different English accents. The proportion of film with American accents compared with the actual proportion of people with American accents is extremely tipped in favour of America. I don't know any Americans, but I do know a couple of brits. Yet American accents seem less exotic than British accents EVEN THOUGH STATISTICALLY SPEAKING (FOR MY AREA) THEY AREN'T. If it weren't for Hollywood, I wouldn't have known what Americans sounded like until I was 21 (when I saw my first one irl). Sorry I … I get passionate about propaganda.

Anonymous 165393

>>165390
Until the US government is intentionally genociding people in 2022 and putting people in jail for saying fuck the government on social media then yeah we can complain about America’s shittiness. Until then China is worse by every measurable standard.

Anonymous 165406

>>165390
Anon, there’s a big difference between using virtual updoots for a website that’s basically meaningless and has no impact on someone’s day to day existence, and applying that updoot system irl to peoples real lives -_-

Anonymous 165407

>>165390
Obviously American movies are gonna have American accents lol. Do you really think Chinese made movies don’t do the exact same, and give everyone, even the non Chinese actors and characters, Chinese dub?

Anonymous 165417

>>164690
What? That doesnt answer ny question. This thread was filled and then all the replies magically disappeared

Anonymous 165474

>>165390
This is the most braindead retarded post I have ever even seen

Anonymous 165482

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>>164486
You now an AMAZING movie from the same period as Thumbelina op? The Secret Garden. It actually had thumbelina in the previews as well as Batman. I watched this as a child more than any other movie.

It's creepy because my mother also had two perfectly matching ivory elephants. One of their trunks was even broken. She had a wooden box with drawers and a giant skeleton key. Naturally I put the key in the box. It sounded exactly the same as the box from the movie, when you opened and closed it. I opened and closed it over a hundred times because I was obsessed with that sound. I have no idea why.

Anonymous 165483

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I remember watching that when I was little. Everything in it made me pretty uncomfy, but I liked the bumblebee and I still do. Buzzbee is a good bug.

Anonymous 165491

>>165483
Yes I loved this beee!!

Anonymous 165981

>>165393

The US government has killed literally 100x as many people as China since 2000.

Anonymous 166320

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>>165981
how the fuck did even this thread get so derailed…



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