>Tell them it sucks but that it's called feminism, not masculism, and men's problems aren't what we're focusing on
Exactly. I am not fighting for equality I am fighting for women's rights, not that i am necessarily against mens issues getting attention but they dont even care about their own issues, they just use it as a talking point to distract from womens issues. Its all a ploy to undermine feminism.
Saying feminism is about "equality and womens freedom" is better optics. Also, during 2nd wave feminism when they said they fought for equality they just wanted rights. They wanted freedom, as in freedom to pursue independence snd careers. However the definition of equality and freedom has changed since then, and now libfems twist it to mean something completely different and regressive, to justify sex work and such. Then they will call YOU the fake feminist lol. >>258102
Tradwives and prostitutes are 2 sides of the same coin. Both surrender their independence and trade their dignity to mooch off of males for their entire lives. Their entire livelihoods are dependant on men. Tradwives are better in the sense its less dangerous and more stable, but still an absolute shit position to put yourself in. I dislike sex work too (but I feel bad for the women who get involved and empathize with them, and its often out of desperation) but was just using tradwives as an example. >>258122
I always tell them the real effects of their ideology is overall BAD for women. Try and act more moderate.
Ex. sex work
"sex work is bad, statistically almost all sex workers are assaulted"
"its womens choice and we should not restrict womens choices based on the actions of men, that is victim blaming."
"The real effects of that idea leads to more women being harmed, which is BAD for women, and feminism is about prioritizing womens safety. I don't blame victims who were assaulted, but we know that sex work is a dangerous profession, so its best for women not to get involved. Women SHOULD be able to do what they want without fear of being assaulted, but unfortunately bad people exist and there isnt much we can do and must take precautions. Just like it is wise to lock your house before you leave because bad people exist who will rob you, it is wise to not get involved with sex work. I don't blame people whos houses do get robbed, but everyone has to take safety precautions and it is ineffective and detrimental to ask women not to take any safety precautions."