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I’m personally spiritual but reject all religions. You can read up on dianic Wicca if you’re interested in a female-centred spirituality.

Read Fear and Trembling by Kierkegaard

>>259356
>>259356
why would you hate something you don't think exists

>>259369
Check mate athiests!!

>>259376
No but it’s true, you could say you hate the notion of whatever god you dislike, or you could say you hate — capitalized and all ‘God’. OP do you have trouble expressing what you mean or did you just want a certain type of traction on your post? Just ask if there’s other ways to obtain spirituality without following Abrahamic religions, or take a good look at yourself and what you actually believe

>>259365
Wtf you like to read Kierkegaard? Friend me NOW we are destined to be friends PLEASE

>>259383
Of course. My email address is [email protected]. I'd be delighted to receive an email from you.

>I hate G*d
I believe this is the third stage of grief. For me, depression came between anger and bargaining, but to each her own. I uhh… I decided to believe my life was a movie and people were watching me be sad. I needed someone to feel sad for me who wasn't me. But then I promised I'd try whatever I could to pick myself up. I live in this weird limbo where I both do believe and don't believe in a higher power.

>>259365
Kierkegaard is a bit overrated, in the same way Don Giovanni was overrated by Kierkegaard (I don't think there was a single line in either/or that I found insightful). The lily and bird book was ok I guess, but I don't get what's so great about the guy. Feel free to explain why he helped you I guess.

i always believed in the higher power even at my worst i only ever wonder "why"

>>259391
>I live in this weird limbo
Here's a song for that!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjU8L6go1VA

GOD is real whether you believe or don’t believe. search your feelings you know it to be true

God can only be a She if she's real. Spirituality is good soothing practice, it's humanity's favorite cope. They always end up with either a monotheistic God or a pantheon or they replace all that with worldly preoccupations like activism, politics, conspiracy theories, sciences or charity work. There is always something to grasp for straws at, otherwise we'd all go insane from the meaninglessness.

Why not make God your religion? She is eternal, she will never fail you or betray you. Her is love is eternal is all-encompassing and engulfing. You were engulfed by it the second you were conceived. The only law she knows is Karmic Law. The knowledge of which will soothe you, because she is fair, even if you can't see it play out immediately.

>>259356
god is real-
motion exists in our universe. motions were caused by prior motions.
motion happens over a course of time.
you cannot have an infinite regress of motions, because if time extended infinitely into the past, we could not have gotten to today.
therefore, a first motion was started by an unmoved mover, what we could call God.

once you establish the existence of god, the historicity for the resurrection of Christ establishes christianity as the true religion.

Christ is King

>>260087
>you cannot have an infinite regress of motions, because if time extended infinitely into the past, we could not have gotten to today.
Your ???? phase makes no sense.

>>260090
this is just a pretty simple mathematical concept.
if time extended infinitely into the past, you logically could not have reached any given day, because you would have had to wait infinitely to arrive at that day, which is impossible.

>>260093
I think I get it

do a Buddhist Atheism

>>260093
You have stated things, not proven any.

>>260097
i'm proving it by stating the logic of it.
time has a definite beginning point and does not go infinitely backward, because you cannot form an actual infinity in reality with success addition. if time stretched infinitely into the past, you could not have reached today nor any specific day at all due to this fact, which showcases the absurdity of a true infinity such as that existing in our universe.

>>260419
Yeah, we disagree on axioms, that's why you don't make sense to me.

>>259356
Read Parable of the Sower by Octavia Butler.
Look into Octavia Butler's religion, Earthseed. God is not seen as a sentient being to be worshipped or anything like that. God is just another word for change.

Earthseed's core tenets:

>All that you touch You Change.
>All that you Change Changes you.
>The only lasting truth Is Change.
>God Is Change.
>God exists To shape
>And to be shaped.
>The Destiny of human beings is to take root among the stars; to leave Earth would be leaving humanity's 'childhood' and entering 'adulthood' by exploring other planets.

Fans love this fictional religion so much there was even a website made for it:
https://godischange.org/god-is-change/

I suggest you take a look, and read the book. There is a lot up to interpretation.

If you're not into literature there was a graphic novel adaptation.

>>260441
fair enough. the end-point of every christian athiest debate. i think personally that science proves that there has to be a God. "eternal mover," and all that, i never really understood how an anti-theist viewpoint could hold up but that's just me

epicureanism might be cool for you. Basically, God is the source of life, but God is also an impersonal unemotional floating ball of atoms, or space dust, or whatever. So it's our source of life but we don't have to "obey" it or whatever.

Be a gnostic or something

You should worship Sriman Narayana, the Supreme Blissful Creator of all reality, who is dually female (Sriman) and male (Narayana)

>>260825
Thank you for this very convincing argument.

Om Sri gurubhyo Namaha. Harihi Om

>>260825
Sounds like tranny shit

>>260448

all I remember about reading this is that it ends in a deus ex machina wherein all her problems are solved by letting an older man rape her. o_o

>>260890
I remember it differently. On the road, she "dates" an old guy (but she is 15?), and eventually their survivor group find some decent land in the mountain.

>>260881
Gods being dual sexed precedes tranny shit.

>>260897
God is a tranny, it's time to reject a higher power and accept higher peace (female supremacy)

>>260897
They are now going to shill that God is non binary on twitter…

>>260890
Uhh are we talking about the same book?

Having a loving relationship with an older man doesn't mean she gets raped, the fuck? She is 18 at the end of the book. It starts when she's 15.

>>260892
It's really sad that this is all you remember about the book. You missed the entire point. Just goes to show some people are completely blinded by wanting to push a women-are-always-victims-to-men narrative.

You should really read it again, and read the sequel, Parable of the Talents, if the ending to Parable of the Sower was too happy for you

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>>260890
>all I remember about reading this is that it ends in a deus ex machina wherein all her problems are solved by letting an older man rape her. o_o

Meant to reply to this one

>>260911
How is an 18 year old dating an older man pedophilia??

>>260915
there's a reason why men date just of legal age women

>>260907
>>260911
>>260915
>>260916
I've never read this book. I did read an Octavia Butler story named Bloodchild, which had some mild controversy due to the main character's age. I can say pretty definitively that it was necessary to that story to make the male pregnancy carried by a 13 year old boy. In Bloodchild, Gan's young age and the fact that he is nowhere near through with puberty before being expected to carry the brood of a being older than his own mother is thematically paramount. There is no way to effectively write the story in any other way with characters of any other age. Bloodchild could not work as a story if Gan was an adult man, or if the brood-queen to whom he was betrothed from the moment of his birth were of merely human lifespan. I have to assume that it was similarly necessary in The Parable of the Sower to make its protagonist a mid-teenager who grows into an adult, and also necessary to make her eventual love interest someone older than a parent. In Bloodchild, Butler's taking us to that place of unbearable discomfort and asking us to understand how difficult these uncomfortable choices really are if and when you can't just dismiss the broodmother as an ebil ayyylmo. So: what's she really doing in The Parable of the Sower? She's earned enough trust as an author that I am sure she's doing something meaningful, but you've not really explained it.

>>259356
If you don’t think he’s real, how do you think the universe was created?

>G*d
Yup, she's Jewish

>>260957
clowns

>>260448
That sound similar to the philosophy of Heraclitus

>No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it's not the same river and he's not the same man. There is nothing permanent except change.

I remember when I was so mad and wanted to disprove the fact that we're more than flesh and I kept analyzing the reality until I found the proof of "god" (i'm not religious and dont believe in one god entity I just dont know how else to call it). It was weird and I don't even remember my exact thought process