/b/ - Random

>Is being a mom worth it in 2025?
If you've got the proper moid to raise a kid with yes. (Good luck in this climate)
>Will things get better or worse?
The future isn't written on anything but right now all the most compelling arguments are from the "worse" camp.

>>302839
>If you've got the proper moid
I've taken parenting classes recently and I now realise a good half the men there are totally insufferable and totally inappropriate for raising kids. That's the men WILLING to improve their parenting. I can't imagine how many more just aren't.

>>302838
It's always worth it, and mediocre to bad parents have always been the norm. It takes a lot of effort to properly raise children.

no, and any woman who is foolish, deluded or selfish enough to have a child unless they have a huge amount of money (casual millionaires) and time (no babysitters) and their male partner is 1 in a million (lol) is lying to themselves

Im young now and the latest I will have a child is in like 2035 and I keep debating if I want to live solo and have fun, get married to a child free man or have kids.Raising kids is getting more expensive each year and I dont come from a rich family so I dont know anymore. Should I live my own life and explore and have fun or find joy in motherhood? Motherhood is stressful though if the dad becomes a useless piece of shit . But looking at couples and families makes me jealous sometimes but sometimes not. I think the only factor is money here. Everything is money lol

>>302838
My answer to this question depends entirely on whether or not you are a lesbian or have big extended female family to help you.

>>302842
This seems like cope. Why would you raise kids who are going to hate you? Why put the financial burden on yourself when you can just do something else just as fulfilling and enjoyable?

>>302847
>Why would you raise kids who are going to hate you?
You have to fuck up to get them to hate you, and even then it's not guaranteed they will hate you. At worst they might have prickly teen years, but that can be navigated around.
>Why put the financial burden on yourself when you can just do something else just as fulfilling and enjoyable?
There is nothing more enjoyable than raising good children. They're like friends but times a million. I'd like to see what you think is more fulfilling or enjoyable honestly.

>>302851
fuck off with your scrote propaganda!

>>302838
I think the RNG of your otherwise well-raised child being influenced to fuck up their life by another child is much higher these days, so if I had a kid I'd be really anxious about this. One million years ago in high school my English teacher told me that's why she was reluctant to have children and it really stuck with me. I was a kid at the time and could see the very thing she feared play out with a few classmates, so she must have been seeing it all the time as a teacher.

>>302853
It's not exactly propaganda. Does nobody on this website actually like their parent(s)?

>>302838
I found my moid to breed with. The most perfect man in the world (for me at least). Obedient (to me only), high IQ, handsome, sexy. ambitious and driven, will provide for me. Not a coomer. A true romantic. Won’t bald. Eats healthy and exercises. Doesn’t talk down to me. Has the same goals as me. Will stand up for himself and me (not a wimp)

You Just got to find a man who’s worthy but unfortunately most men are little boys wanking off, smoking weed and spending their pay checks on OF thots and expect their poor gfs to be their bangmaids.

I come from a good family and i like my parents. Happy societies consist from functional families.

I'm raising 2 kids on my own and it's hard but the most fun and rewarding thing I've ever done. Also, not as expensive as I feared.

Moids disgust me and the idea of growing one inside me is abhorrent.

>>302857
Yup more moids are giving up
They can be more lonelier
Stands up for himself but doesn’t talk down to you ? That’s a rare one

>>302857
Ew

tbh I kind of wish I lived in a big house with a masculine, attractive husband who was the breadwinner of the family, with 2 or 3 children. my only responsibilities would be raising them and I could spend all of my free time making my arts and crafts and selling them on Etsy, and making cute titktoks with my kids

this will never happen though because I am a fat, brown, poor, stupid, femcel

>>302838
Fuck no, having kids is inherently abusive to them if you ask me. And it's self harm since the woman will likely have a prolapse from giving birth

>>318321
Agree. I am not sure why people feel it's a good idea to bring children on to this earth. This is the reason why I feel most (not all but most) parents are low IQ.

>>318319
chin up chin up

>>318321
God, I really want kids. People are just nihilistic and wish they were dead but are too much of pussies to kill themselves so they impose that upon people wanting kids. Life is beautiful and giving birth is magical, all of the most beautiful things come with exerted energy, pain, and even death. Anti-birth propaganda is so weird to be, as if anything else upon this Earth doesn't give life in times of war and hardship. Actually, in protest, it does beget life, in protest of evil, life refuses to surrender.

>>318381
t. your mom before she gives birth to your miserable ass (and more likely than not regretting it)

>>318319
what do you even mean your "only" responsibilities kek
And consider that a big house requires a lot of maintenance

>>318382
When your mom gave birth to you, the doctor's thought she had a big shit. kys.

>>318384
Why are you butthurt? that was one of the many possible outcomes to giving life, and here I thought you loved hardships. You should be grateful to get to live through your loved ones' suffering.
Maybe if mentally ill downers aren't your thing try steering clear from spaces where they gather

>>318385
I have to ask, is English your first language? Or were you forced to stay two grades below on the short bus?

We truly must be a weakening generation if a nuanced argument on hardship constitutes pushback. I never said you need to breed yourself in the back of barn. I said that coming after those who desire children is stupid and a worthless feat of self denial.

You miserable fucks cannot conceive of the thought that people can feel down and be mentally ill and not detest life. Just kill yourself, darling, it gives more fresh air to those who value it.

>>318385
Being a parent isn't easy, but many things aren't easy and in the end of every one of them, I feel myself growing from the experience and happier because of it. It's called maturity, it's call be multidimensional, it's call growing the fuck up.

Obvs we're two different ppl. don't have kids, I couldn't imagine the retards you'd bless upon how green valley.

sadly it is worth it
just for the reason that you get old and decrepit and this is unavoidable and having youngins watching your back and continuing your legacy is always reassuring. dying alone fucking sucks.

>>318386
You: Go on a tirade about how the >>318321 Anon was too much of a coward to kill herself simply for voicing an opinion, that birth is worth it yada yada
Me: raise the potential of the person birthed turning out miserable, making it all for naught. (sorry you can't read between the lines)
>You: go apeshit like the figger you are
I'm not going to kill myself thanks, but I hope your offspring does
>people can feel down and be mentally ill and not detest life
So what? We're talking about the kind of audience you'll find here
>>318387
>Being a parent isn't easy, but many things aren't easy
irrelevant, I said nothing about parenting.

>>318392
Incorrect…you quite literally discussed parenting when you brought up the idea of having a child and regretting having the child. I seemingly have the common sense to read between the lines, you my darling hide behind censored speech like the cunt you are. See, I can say cunt, I say pussy, I can say fag.

I wasn’t telling OP to kill themselves, it was a general term of hyperbole, I’m tell you to kill yourself without hyperbole. Don’t thank me for giving you the idea, just do it as they say.

If it’s apeshit to consider an argument instead of stroking my clit angrily bc I don’t hate children nor am I going to tell someone that having kids can be a miracle, you simply don’t know, then I have to say you are a clown, the circus animals, the whole fucking circus act. As if there aren’t precautions to take before having a child like marrying the right partner, going to therapy, making sure you have people around you willing to help your village.

Just go get bred, maybe that will fix the hysteria in you fugly ass mind. Kisses*

>>318392
I quote:t. your mom before she gives birth to your miserable ass (and more likely than not regretting it)” in regards to my mother…the person who birthed me, not me the one to be birthed. Reread what you write before saying shit, I can only interpret this as a parent growing miserable.

…to add on, what a dumb statement. It’s called being a good parent. If your kid is miserable you either fucked up or aren’t listening. It’s not that hard. It’s called empathy. If my child was miserable…I’d be a parent…I’d allow them to participate in therapy, I’d talk to them and allow them to express their pain, if it was that bad, I’d assist in their sanctioned suicide…that’s parenthood. That’s responsiblity. Obviously you grew up fatherless and your mother was waiting to stick her head into an oven before she took care of you, but if you’re a parent who loves their child and knows you can take care of them, your child shouldn’t be miserable…sad, sure they’re growing, but not miserable.

You’re talking form the perspective of a 16 year old, I’m talking like someone who has moved pass that bs. If you cannot do as I have listed above…don’t have kids.