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Anonymous 30509
I know we have a femdom thread, but I think we need a separate gfd thread.
>Snuggling
>Domination
>Blushy boys
>Cute boys
>Cute boys
>And more cute boys
Anonymous 30517
>>30515This is really cute but not nsfw.
Do you count anything that isn't maledom as GFD? Isn't there anything in between?
Not hating, I like the pics.
Anonymous 30518
>>30517I'm not gonna lie the lines are getting blurrier and blurrier although I would definitely argue that's it's fairly distinct from the two people mix it up with a normal relationship and femdom. Romantically in normal non-traditional relationships today there's often an understood equality between partners, while in a GFD or Femdom relationships there is a distinct power imbalance in the favor of the woman, where what you say is treated with respect over their own opinions, they look to you for guidance, and you have implied or sometimes literal power over them.
Gfd differs from femdom because it puts much less emphasis on the "Having power and domination over someone" (which often ends up being purely indulgent to the man) and focuses more on a mentorship role over their partner, using their power to act as a teacher, guide, and emotional protector which is why in contrast with femdom, in gfd the men are often younger than the females and younger in general, more attractive, shy, and emotional, because it's not about being better or superior than your partner in gfd, it's about nurturing someone who's vulnerable.
Tldr; I posted it because gfd is about taking care of and giving affection and love to cute shy boys, even if such things aren't exclusive to gfd, it's appreciated as it none the less.
Anonymous 30525
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>>30523>go look this artist up>this power dynamic is a big fetish of mine>also she draws a bunch of femdomNice, thanks anon.
Anonymous 30526
>>30525In an ocean of male-oriented porn full of faceless men, endlessly ample yuri and poorly proportioned and off putting yaoi, she truly is /ourgirl/
Happy to share what little there is of the good stuff, 'non.
Anonymous 30528
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>>30509not porn, but I feel like this is relevant.
Anonymous 30536
>>30530It breaks my heart to say that I have no idea.
Anonymous 30537
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>>30534>cat boysI see you're an anon of culture as well.
Anonymous 30539
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feels like there's too much weeb stuff on here, lemme do an irl dump
Anonymous 30545
>>30517GFD is both nsfw and sfw… it's more of a lifestyle or an inclination than a fetish, which is why there's no mainstream irl content for it, and why the tumblr ban sucks the worst for GFD. GFD doesn't exist on pornsites because it's not entirely sexual, i.e. maternal snuggling & romantic dynamics, and it can't exist on most social media sites because it's not entirely sfw, tumblr was really the perfect spot for the community to exist.
Anonymous 30547
>>30545I hope a new gfd community can be created, far away from malestream porn shite
Clueless 30548
>>30544Is this a normal cock and balls color?
Anonymous 30549
>>30548It varies from guy to guy, but more or less.
Anonymous 30550
>>30549>>30548you also have to consider he's probably been edged for god knows how long, so that's maybe why it looks a little different to you.
Anonymous 30551
>>30550Does that really make a difference?
Anonymous 30552
>>30551Extra blood pressure? Ya. There's also something called blue balls.
Anonymous 30554
>>30548yes if you tease it a little
it also depends on the guy I guess
Anonymous 30557
I want some festive male subs tied up with ribbons for xmas.
Anonymous 30558
>>30557be sure to leave some for the rest of us Anonymous 30559
where to get gfd stuff from since tumblr is banning this now?
Anonymous 30560
>>30559bdsmlr.com is full of Tumblr refugees, though the site is not nearly as good from the technical side
Anonymous 30561
>>30560Could you recommend some blogs on there?
Anonymous 30562
>>30559here I guess, anons should do a tumblr dump.
Anonymous 30564
>>30563Why are there no pics of this? Don't disappoint me cc.
Anonymous 30568
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hope you all had a wonderful xmas
Anonymous 30570
>>30565Late but I appreciate it, anon.
Anonymous 30635
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Somehow we've been transfered to /b/…? Are the mods sympathetic to gfd anons or something or did they finally get tired of seeing us in /nsfw/? A bit of a shame, we've just been thrown out from a birds nest, now we're either gonna flap our wings fast enough to soar or we aren't, and we're gonna sink deeper and deeper into the page listings of threads until we crash and die the bottom. Now that we're out in a open, I feel almost too embarrassed to post
cute boys to flap our metaphorical wings though. I feel like the metaphor was extremely unnecessary in hindsight,
Anonymous 30640
>>30637Also, some of the legitimately nsfw posts weren't spoilered by the mods when they moved the thread and I'm kind of concerned..? The non spoilered ones being
>>30569 >>30566 >>30543>>30539 Anonymous Admin 
30643
>>30640Fixed, sorry! As for /nsfw/, please join the discussion here:
>>>/meta/2119 Anonymous 30645
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>>30518>younger in general, more attractive>it's about nurturing someone who's vulnerable.You can nurture someone who's not younger or more beautiful. I think you might be conflating beauty and youth with femininity (therefore a loss of power) which is pretty much the lens of misogyny that most toxic guys who are into gfd on places like 4chan see it.
Anonymous 30647
>>30645>You can nurture someone who's not younger or more beautiful. Of course you can. You can nurture whoever you want.
>I think you might be conflating beauty and youth with femininity (therefore a loss of power) which is pretty much the lens of misogyny that most toxic guys who are into gfd on places like 4chan see it.You make an interesting point. I think it's unfair to dismiss a lens that sees femininity as something to be protected as standard 4chan misogyny though, because it's not something only 4chan gfdanons indulge in, anywhere there's a gfd community I see the same lenses. I think it's only misogynistic if you associate femininity exclusively with women, which funnily enough, is also misogynistic in a way. Is it sexist for me to use the same lens for effeminate boys? Is role reversal some sort of self misogyny, where I escape the oppression on my femininity by oppressing someone elses…? Or is it self empowerment? I think it might be both in a weird way. How do you see it anon?
I had a few drinks, I dunno how comprehensible this is, guess I'll um… see in the morning if I remember it Anonymous 30648
>>30645also uh
you forgot to spoiler your image Anonymous 30652
It's not real, right? Female can't respect sub male, it's biological or something.
Anonymous 30654
>>30652Many of us are incredibly mentally ill. We like it for the same reason that folks on r9k occasionally whine about "tfw no dominatrix gf". (or rather the opposite reason but since we're the opposite gender it's sort of a double negative I suppose)
I think it's a lot more of a fantasy than anything, but maybe there are anons here that have had relationships with effeminate men that enjoy it. I still think it's not healthy but whatever makes you feel good right?
Anonymous 30655
>>30654Well yeah, makes you feel good, but in term of actual real life relationship that can last, I reckon it isn't plausible.
Anonymous 30656
>>30655Which is why I said it's a fantasy.
Anonymous 30662
>>30652I'm not sure what I'd feel for a dom would be "respect," I'd never want to fuck him or let him touch me in any way. It would be a turn off and I'd stop seeing him sexually or romantically.
Or is that how heterosexual relationships are ~supposed~ to be? A throwback to the days when males just raped females?
More doms for you, anon. No need to complain.
>>30654Speak for yourself, the better I feel about myself and the more my mental health improves the more I want a sub partner.
Anonymous 30666
>>30652What does a gfd fetish have anything to do with respect? Every person gets basic respect, including submissive men.
Anonymous 30667
>>30655>Well yeah, makes you feel good, but in terms of actual real life relationship that can last, I reckon it isn't plausible.I think you anons are imagining gfd as some wild kinky fuckery, that's only a piece of it though. It's a dynamic embellished with the strongest states of intimacy, of seeing your partner in their most honest states, of cherishing them, and of observing their loving loyalty and support. An intimacy built on an unrelenting, but delicate trust sustained through strong communication. All that kinky fuckery loses its value when you lose that trust and communication the relationship is built upon, because a strong gfd relationship is not a relationship about kinky fuckery it's a relationship about trusting each other to do kinky fuckery and do their part in a relationship. I think it's unfair to assume that a relationship is unsustainable because it's different. What's unhealthy or unsustainable about being completely honest with your partner about what you want? What's unhealthy or unsustainable about giving all your love to someone who wants it? I find it hard to believe that the love I feel for my bf is unsustainable, although, maybe that's just the endorphins talking.
I feel like I sound angry or confrontational, but I don't mean to be. You'd also have to define what you consider sustainable. I don't know very many other gfd dommes, but one of the few I do know is engaged to her sub fiance if that counts for anything.
>>30662>the more my mental health improves the more I want a sub partnerThis was me. Don't give up anon, just know what you want and keep looking.
>>30652>It's not real, right? Female can't respect sub male, it's biological or something.No, we're very real. You can respect a person without respecting the assumed authority they have over you. Even if it were a biological imperative to disrespect submissive males
which I think is ridiculous, there is no totally homogeneous biology in humanity, so there would still be a minority like us, who would be able to respect sub males just fine.
Anonymous 30671
>>30666>>30667I didn't really mean absolutelly no respect, tho that's definitely depending, since I heard some opinions about that already and most weren't very positive. What I did mean though is that
>basic respectisn't really kind of respect one should have for a serious partner and not a one time fling. You have basic respect for every human, you need something more for a partner. Maybe biology doesn't make you disrespect submissive male, but I also don't think it puts him in on equal ground when compared to more traditional dominant one, and since it would be something innate, you might not think it now, but your brain would make you feel it when put in actuall relationship like that.
Anonymous 30675
>>30671Do you have a fetish for forcing dommes into situations where they get dominated or something?
Or are you just so self-centered that you can't imagine someone wanting something different from what you want?
You also avoided replying to my response, come on. I feel left out.
Anonymous 30676
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>>30671>Maybe biology doesn't make you disrespect submissive male, but I also don't think it puts him in on equal ground when compared to more traditional dominant one, and since it would be something innate, you might not think it now, but your brain would make you feel it when put in actual relationship like that.If anything I respect sub males far more than traditional dominant ones, for being brave enough to express themselves in a manner that society chastises them for and to be vulnerable in ways that are looked down upon. That and due to my misandry towards excessively masculine and dominate men. I think it's dependent on the individual's opinion of and experiences with submissive men not any natural inclination and you're just taking your own opinion of submissive men and applying it to every woman. Or you're a male and you just can't comprehend the desires of real women who don't conform to your ridged understanding of how we think. Your final comment also doesn't ring true because I've been dating one for more than 2 months, and I respect him far more than any of than any of the men you think deserve more.
Anonymous 30678
>>30675>I feel left out.If it makes you feel any better anon, I can pretend to argue with you.
Anonymous 30679
>>30678Thanks for the thought, anon.
Anonymous 30685
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Girls, tell your pet boy to suck on your clit, not just lick
Anonymous 30688
I have to ask, I noticed a slight talk about this, but it kind of drifted from this idea so I'm going to try to bring it back.
Male appearance in the GFD dynamic. Do they have to be feminine, weak, and able to be overpowered? I have a male friend I talk to about random life bullshit feels, and he kind of harps on this one topic of that he doesn't fit into the stereotypical desired GFD sub boy and he hates it. I was curious about what he saw and him going on 4chan I checked out the GFD threads there, and it seems to be majorly dominated by men in activity so I'm not even sure what's posted there are genuine things that a female finds ideal in a GFD relationship and instead just posting fetish fuel jerk off bait for other guys. The smut posted here is giving mixed signals and I'm looking to see definitive opinions.
Anonymous 30689
>>30688This is going to sound irrelevant at first, but bear with me.
Visible ab muscles are statistically more common in women than men because of how sex hormones affect bodyfat deposits. Low levels of estrogen and high levels of androgens and the abdomenal region becomes the primary fat storage location, to the point where (due to their own body's natural fat storage design) many men would need to be less than 5% bodyfat even with extremely large abdomenal muscles to really have those visible inter-abs lines, far below the recommended healthy range of 15% to 20% bodyfat as percentage of weight for men. For women, the body generally needs to be between 15% to 20% bodyfat to have visible abs, which is significantly closer to the recommended healthy level of 20% to 25% bodyfat. And it is fat, not underdeveloped musculature. A lot of steroid users find themselves frustrated with their muscles not overwhelming their last remaining deposits of fat on their abs, and this is probably one of the reasons a number of men die of steroid related causes every year, and others seem to give up on exercise when they realize it will never give them abs. Some former wrestlers I knew back in high school seem to have decided that beer guts aren't so bad, and wrestlers are the lunatics who jog for hours wearing plastic bags so that they can lose every spare ounce of water in their bodies. Women who are naturally high in androgens, generally progesterone, have an unfortunate tendency towards the apple shape when they gain weight, the masculine obesity pattern.
Visible abs are often described as the very most attractive thing possible in an athletic man. And they're almost female secondary sex traits, sort of the reverse of men who develop gynecomastia as a consequence of obesity. Does this mean that most women into the athletic look are closet lesbians on the lookout for female bodybuilder gfs?
GFD sub bois should look a little more feminine than average, because all men should look a little bit more feminine than men usually do. This isn't a GFD specific thing, study drawing for a while and note all of the differences between male and female bodies and features, and try to get a good feel for where the average really is among men, it's quite disappointing. A chin that comes to a point, a less protruding brow, and a more vertical slope of the skull make a man appear sophisticated and intelligent. Look at a comparison between a male and female skull study, the male looks more animalistic down to the bone. Brighter and larger eyes would make him appear more attentive and sensitive and make him easier to read–but the brightness would be an effect of an smaller tear duct pushing slightly more water into the surface (female physical trait) and the largeness an illusion from subtle feminine changes to the eyelid, nose, brow, and skull width. Their bodies shouldn't be so prone to visceral fat and abdomenal fat, it's not just gross, it's also bad for them. None of these things are specific to a GFD dynamic, and none of them necessarily interfere in any way with a man's ability to fulfill a traditional masculine role on their own, so if each of them were just a dial on a character generator things would probably look different in this thread. But bodies are systems, and pushing the dial one way on one set of hormones moves a lot of the other dials in different directions. Men develop certain kinds of gross bodies as an unfortunate consequence of masculine hormones and masculine physical development, so looking for images with a body that isn't gross is going to give you a high chance of finding bodies that are also less prone to other aspects of masculine development; fewer beer guts may come at the cost of shoulders that aren't quite as broad. The same hormones that let men have long, full beards also strongly tends to turn the tops of their heads bald. If you like nice full heads of hair on your men, then you'll notice that most men you post will be cleanshaven or very strategically whiskered, because their beards often look like rubbish when grown out. The preference isn't away from beards, that's just a side effect.
Also, there's not too much heterosexual porn on this site, and female spaces tend to get overrun with males, either hetero or homo. It's pretty hard to say what people like about the pictures they post, too. It's hard to draw a baseline and say where "this is a photo of an attractive man with a healthy body weight and clear skin who happens to be posing sexually" becomes "this is an attractive GFD bf." I'm reasonably sure that a lot of men who think they're into femdom are actually just interested in pictures of attractive women posing sexually.
Anonymous 30690
>>30688I think it's pretty individual, I know there are many women who want to domme big strong boys due to the psychological power involved. Or they just like muscles lol.
Personally I want the smallest boy possible (without getting into dwarfism or anything lol), but not someone overall feminine in presentation. As in I like a small frame, but I also love body hair and how veiny and bony skinny men appear. I like short men with proportionately large hands and feet. Not into beards, but some roughness is nice.
Some girls like full androgyne though. It really varies.
Anonymous 30691
>>30689>tfw you'll never be high iq enough to comprehend your own kinksI-I just like soft subby boys. Anonymous 30697
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Sisters, how do I make my bf to follow this?
Anonymous 30698
>>30697you find a bf that wants to follow this
no need to thank me
Anonymous 30699
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>>30697>unironically falling for the reiko memesHardly any of this stuff actually makes sense or actually works if you look into it anon. It's just false instructions that were made to encourage robots to join some other very creepy robot's own trap harem cult. You can use the instructions I guess, but don't take them seriously.
Anonymous 30700
>>30699don't know if it works, but this picture is way older than whole /r9k/ trap harem thing
Anonymous 30701
>>30700I mean before jerking off to traps on /r9k/ they were doing it on /b/.
Anonymous 30702
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>>30700No one really knows when the psy op started, only when it was discovered. You're probably right that the origin of the photo goes way too far back though. Do you know how old the gfd one is? Because I thought that was part of the reiko meme too.
Anonymous 30704
>>30703>>30702Yeah…. all of this stuff, even if it does work, or if it's not a reiko meme, kind of comes off as obsessive to me… I'm not really disturbed by it… just kind of suspicious of it.
Anonymous 30705
>>30704>>30703You want your cute sub bf? Well you got to put some WORK.
It ain't go be easy, uh
Anonymous 30706
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>>30705Yeah I know, that's why I'm not necessarily disturbed by it. more just suspicious of them. You can look at a good portion of work out routines and diets see they come off as obsessive. These particular ones, come off as a little creepy to me though because of their obsession with estrogen, and they contradict the casual gfd vibes I appreciate. Pic unrelated.
Anonymous 30707
>>30706Well from an outsider looking in, this looks pretty "normal" being a relative term. It seems like a lot of females desire feminine looking men to be their sub, and how do you make men look more feminine? Estrogen. If it didn't work MTF wouldn't use it.
Anonymous 30708
>>30702This is no good, I want a skinnyfat acne ridden bf.
So long as he's short and weighs less than me. I'd rather he never exercise.
I'm sure this is definitely a lot of girls' ideal though.
Anonymous 30709
>>30707It's not necessarily the process I'm perturbed by, just the obsession with the process, I guess I might be being a little ridiculous.
Anonymous 30710
>>30709Well I guess in that aspect, they try to entice people to do these things by treating it like a fetish. A living 24/7 fetish. I feel like more people care about this stuff in a fetish dynamic rather than a lifestyle choice.
Anonymous 30711
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>>30710>I feel like more people care about this stuff in a fetish dynamic rather than a lifestyle choice.Which sucks, because I only care about the boys who care about it as a lifestyle choice.
Anonymous 30712
>>30711Well I know there are guys out there who like the lifestyle, but I doubt anyone here would want them.
Anonymous 30714
>>30712>I doubt anyone here would want themI already kinda have one, but it's still frustrating when I encounter guys and girls who overly fetishize it. Why don't you think any one here would want them..?
Anonymous 30715
>>30714Mostly because what I see, a lot of the guys are gross and not up to the aesthetic that is required for GFD. There seem to be two types who are into it, either people for the fetish, or people who are such hot messes that they just desire a strong female guiding role in their life. And the people who go for the lifestyle are just hot messes that no one really wants to deal with.
I'm not trying to speak in absolutes but it seems like there is only one way to be in this situation and it goes against what a lot of guys got going for them unless they are a living lanky skeleton.
Anonymous 30717
>>30715>A lot of the guys are gross and not up to the aesthetic that is required for GFD. There seem to be two types who are into it, either people for the fetish, or people who are such hot messes that they just desire a strong female guiding role in their life. And the people who go for the lifestyle are just hot messes that no one really wants to deal with.I suppose you might be right to a certain extent. I find hot messes adoring though, as long as they don't expect you to solve all their problems for them, and they try hard at themselves. When a boy is passively sad, I wanna coddle them and make them feel better. When a boy is shy I wanna encourage them and be strong in the ways they aren't. When a boy is clumsy, or messes up, I find it adorable. When a boy demands that same attention from you, expects it, or shows outward frustration due to a lack of it, it's very unattractive to me though.
Anonymous 30718
>>30717>When a boy demands that same attention from you, expects it, or shows outward frustration due to a lack of it, it's very unattractive to me though.Can I ask why? I'm curious as to when it becomes a deal breaker for you because a lot of hot messes tend to be clingy and a bit needy.
Anonymous 30719
>>30717Sounds to me like you want a son, not a boyfriend.
Anonymous 30721
>>30718>Can I ask why? I'm curious as to when it becomes a deal breaker for you because a lot of hot messes tend to be clingy and a bit needy.It's hard to describe when it becomes a deal breaker but, having a flawed person as a boyfriend is completely fine to me, maybe even more desirable, easier to tease about things, etc. when those flaws inhibit their ability to give back into the relationship to point where I'm the only one giving or showing any love, or it causes them to be demanding, petty or rude then it starts becoming clingy, needy, and undesirable to me.
>>30719lmao, can you explain?
Anonymous 30722
>>30721So you want someone whose a mess, but not co-dependent. Seems like a tall order, because it seems like after a while they might. Being so worthless and then being filled with worth by someone else might fill them with some co-dependent traits as they might enjoy feeling like they are worth something and valued.
Anonymous 30723
>>30722>So you want someone whose a mess, but not co-dependent. Seems like a tall order, because it seems like after a while they might. Being so worthless and then being filled with worth by someone else might fill them with some co-dependent traits as they might enjoy feeling like they are worth something and valued.Jeez anon, so pessimistic. Someone can be a mess without being completely worthless, everyone's a mess, some people just have more visible messes than others, and I find some visible messes cute. A boy can enjoy feeling valued and loved without developing unhealthy co-dependent traits. You're taking every weakness you can find in my preferences and jumping to a conclusion where they end in inevitable failure. You can similarly analyse any weakness in any relationship and assume they end in inevitable failure, but you'd hardly ever be right. Relationships don't exist free of any quirks or weaknesses, they exist in compromise with those weaknesses, and I'm willing to compromise with someone who's a mess. Sure, a boy might develop co dependent traits, but that's only one possibility, not the only possibility.
Anonymous 30724
>>30723People who are a mess tend to believe they are completely worthless. That's pretty much why they are a mess. Yeah they can try to pick themselves up and carry on, but honestly I don't meet a male whose a mess that wasn't down on themselves. I'm not trying to attack or find weakness, I'm just basically stating what I think I understand and applying my own experiences of certain things to this.
But yes to think I'm pessimistic is a bit of an understatement.
Anonymous 30725
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>>30724>I'm not trying to attack or find weakness, I'm just basically stating what I think I understand and applying my own experiences of certain things to this. But yes to think I'm pessimistic is a bit of an understatement.I think your pessimism is causing us to see this in fundamentally different ways. Someone who's down on themselves wouldn't make them a completely hopeless boyfriend.
Anonymous 30726
>>30725Sorry my last post was typed when I wasn't feeling well, so I missed a point I wanted to say in the bouts of fighting food poisoning.
Someone whose down on themselves wouldn't make a hopeless person, but what I'm trying to say is most guys I've met who are down on themselves, are very co-dependent and needy. So I'm more amazed that you can somehow find men who aren't co-dependent and needy while also being down on themselves. That was my entire point with all of this.
Anonymous 30751
>>30726>>30724This, if a man doesn't believe he's weak or/and worthless, he won't be a mess and just follow the footsteps of every other regular man with typical men traits and desires. He might not actually BE what he think he is, but he will still feel taht way. Not a GFD material.
Anonymous 30755
This thread has given me improper thoughts all week and I don't like thinking at the best of times okay please stop it
Anonymous 30764
>>30755>This thread has given me improper thoughts all week and I don't like thinking at the best of times okay please stop itBut thinking about gfd at the best of times makes them even better.
Anonymous 30765
>>30755Just give into the GFD lust, don't run from what you know is right.
Anonymous 30767
>>30764>>30765All positive fantasies have to be expunged.
Anonymous 30771
>>30767Why? Are you afraid of being happy?
Anonymous 30785
>>30771Yes, because being happy just makes the sad parts hurt more and there are far more sad parts than happy parts.
Anonymous 30788
>>30785Refusing to be happy actually makes the sad times worse. The more happy you are, the less sad those times seem. Too much sadness, and you'll never find your way back to happiness. Get well soon.
Anonymous 30805
>>30785Fuck, I haven't been happy in years and wish I had some good times to remind me that it's worth drudging on.
Anonymous 30807
>>30518"Gfd is about serving men"
/D/ leave and stay leave.
Anonymous 30808
where can I find cute GFD bf?
Anonymous 30809
>>30766It is not worth it tbh and just makes you even more anti-social
t. ISTP
Anonymous 30819
>>30808Prob some fetish website like fetlife. I only know of an ugly GFD person who could be a bf.
Anonymous 30830
>>30808Outside, get out of your room
Anonymous 30831
>>30819>finding bf on fetish websitesyikes!
>>30830oh
my
GOD!
That's such a good idea! Let me just grab a net so I can catch some boys off the street and make them my GFD bf. It's that easy, huh? hah…guess it's time to get to work.
Anonymous 30835
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>>30808Your question is valid, it's not like these guys walk around with "sub" stamped on their forehead. My current tactic is dating normally and my preferences will come up if we click, but it's like finding a needle in a haystack you know.
Anonymous 30837
>>30831GFD is a literal fetish. I don't know what you expect, that's like saying yikes to having to find a homosexual in a gay bar or using grindr.
Anonymous 30840
>>30831As others have pointed out it's a outright fetish even the "sfw variants" and as posted before in the other FD thread; fetish/kink tastes aren't exactly easily discussed with strangers like they are with music or movie preferences. Your only hope short of advertising yourself on twitter and hooking up with 'clients' (dont) is to be the change in your generation and list your kinks on your dating profile. It's no guarantee of even acting as a basic filter but it is a signal for those who are interested to atleast look. Just be mindful what you may consider "gfd" your partner may not and etc. Then hopefully in the future people discuss their preferences with strangers like they do with tv shows
Anonymous 30868
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Has anyone pegged a man or a woman before? My bf implied he might be interested. Just wondering what it feels like and what happens in a relationship where the boy takes a strapon.
>lesbians are invited to post too
Anonymous 30869
>all those smoothskin hairless twinks
It's j-just a minority… Right?! I'm perfectly sane preferring hairy bears more, yes?
Anonymous 30871
>>30869I like
hairy and brown twinks if that counts for anything. There's very little content for that, either…it's mostly hairless white and east Asian guys.
Anonymous 30878
Why is this thread not in /nsfw/
Anonymous 30886
>>30878It was in /nsfw/ for 2 months, then it got randomly moved here. IMO fetish threads should not be here either.
Anonymous Admin 30889
>>30886please see
>>30643TL;DR we can keep /nsfw/ as a discussion board without porn and lewd threads if desired, but I'm still waiting for feedback on that.
Anonymous 30890
Honestly, this fetish just attracts autogynephiles who want you to make them feel "girly". This is especially evident when it's discussed on places like 4chan, which spawns things like
>>30702 and
>>30697 (men wanting to turn themselves into their ideal anime trap/girly boy).
I would say you're playing with fire considering men's fetishes tend to intensify over time. It can easily go from "being the bottom" to pegging, crossdressing, "forced femininzation" and then ultimately transitioning.
Anonymous 30892
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imo, nsfw threads in general will inevitably attract men that want to involve themselves in women's discussion of sex stuff.
i would go on but i don't really see the point in discussing a fetish at length unless it's on a website dedicated to it, so i'm not the best person to say whether or not we need a /nsfw/ ( since i would never use it )
Anonymous 30893
>>30889Why no lewd theards? After the nunification of Tumblr there's really no place for us to go. It's nice to have a place to talk about these things with other girls. Guys are already infiltrating the whole website anyway.
Anonymous Admin 30895
>>30893Talking is fine, I meant "porn and lewd imagery" threads, not all sexual conversation. From observing /nsfw/ it was clear that safe for a few threads, most porn dumps were run by outsiders who didn't post anywhere else on the site or downright bait.
Anonymous 30896
>>30890>tfw also into male crossdressing and would date a mtfAhead of the game.
…admittedly my sexuality also intensifies with time and I'm into almost everything under the domme umbrella and am generally gender indifferent.
Anonymous 31085
>>30890It is too bad, manly men who just submits to the woman they love are the best
Anonymous 31086
>>31085I sometimes question logic like this. Is he really submitting or just allowing you to take control? I always feel like with submission it's forced, like you made them give up control and even if they wanted to fight back they would be powerless. In this specific dynamic though they could prob fight back and win if needed. So is it really submission or a mutual trust to where he desires you to show your love physically in a more dominant way for a change.
Anonymous 31087
>>31086Well crap you could always pump yourself full of anavar and put him on a full soylent diet. The "willful" submission on part of the hunk is a turn-on in itself anon.
Anonymous 31088
>>31087So you still want to dom but have no actual signs or ideas that it's willing and that you over power him. Fair, I just was curious if it's like legit submission where you feel all powerful or in control or just some kind of illusion control kind of deal.
Anonymous 31089
>>31088They're submitting. That's the whole point. I'm not the anon you were previously posting to, by the way.
Anonymous 31848
Reviving this because I want to ask you how do you bully your boyfriends? I have been given full control over a guy's sexuality and I need some inspiration. There's no limits either
Anonymous 31856
>>31848I dont have a partner but if I did, I would be the one who picks where to eat.
dont mess with me
Anonymous 31861
>>30509Probably off topic but
>tfw you're 70-80% straight according to Kinsey scale>tfw you always have to urge to dominate men in sexual/romantic relationships>tfw no man is into it, and sees it as a massive red flagWhat do? Half of the dudes I've propositioned say outright that they don't want it, the other half will show interest/experience it, but eventually feel like their masculinity is being challenged and end up breaking things off. I feel like my soul has to leave my body every time I do some vanilla/submissive shit and I'm so tempted to just push them down and show them how to do it properly.
Anonymous 31883
>>31861>feel like their masculinity is being challenged and end up breaking things offDid you end up taking the roleplay outside of the bedroom?
I kinda like being submissive in bed but I could see it getting annoying real fast if my so ever just started ordering me around in public.
Anonymous 31884
>>31861I feel you. And when you do find a male sub they're often not truly submissives but instead random demanding men who prefer to be on the bottom or something
Anonymous 32217
I used to be so into gentle femdom. But… recently I've been so turned off to it only because there's literally no such thing as a real guy who's good for it. Men can't be cute. Maybe their characters in doujins can be cute but they all (every single one) is secretly hiding the fact that they are a piece of shit on the inside… I keep thinking maybe I'm just being negative but I still can't get over everything they've put me through. Every time I think I'm overthinking a guy shows up to disappoint men. Men are capable of such evil. I know some of you know exactly what I'm talking about.
Anonymous 32274
>>32217Maybe not-so-gentle femdom will break this boy's mind and he can unleash his potential. They can be cute if flustered and blushing when they start to regret that pegging idea but are too proud to admit it
Anonymous 32314
what sites/discords/idk do you use to find quality gfd boyes? fetish websites suck, people there are hardly ever interested in the gfd lifestyle and treat it like a fetish
also too hard to find them irl
Anonymous 32648
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>there are men who would be okay with abuse and violence just to have someone to comeback home to and hug, to not feel alone.
>You will never find one and even if you did, he would be living far away.
How can you live with that?
Anonymous 33377
>>30890That's a lot of projection there, anon. I've been with a sub guy for 6 months now and it's the happiest relationship either of us have had. He has no intention of turning into a girl
also what's wrong with pegging? Anonymous 33390
Femdom is for the mentally ill.
I only see fat or weird ugly women into that. I'm happy to be submissive to my bf and that's how it goes with my irl friends. I feel some sort of visceral disgust when I see a man being submissive.
Truly only on CC to find stuff like this.
Anonymous 33392
>>33390You don't seem very normal either, anon.
Anonymous 33430
I like this thread. I've had such inclinations for a while but didn't realize it fit into an actual label. Thank you all.
Anonymous 33431
>>33430there's also reddit.com/r/gentlefemdom and /r/rolereversal
Anonymous 33432
>>33431/r/gentlefemdom is just porn now and most of it's content feels forced imo
Anonymous 33553
>>33392That's because "she" is a guy
Anonymous 34026
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>>34021
Don't bother anon, we can see right through you
Anonymous 34033
>>34021
I like both, personally. A furry boy can be a cute boy.
Anonymous 34038
>>30689Everything you said about muscles and bodyfat is wrong.
Anonymous 34099
Can anyone explain the appeal?
I've had fun domming people before, but most submissive hetero men just disgust me on a very primal level. I think it's something about their needy behaviour combined with the male entitlement.
There is nothing dominant about giving an hour long "kinky" "edging" "ruined orgasm" handjob until both your arms hurt, or "sexually using" him by fucking him in exactly the way he wants.
Don't get me wrong, being a domme is way cool. But since I'm more of a sub myself and some bad encounters killed off all my desire for switching, I genuinely don't understand:
What could one possibly enjoy about this? Why don't you just get a girlfriend instead?
Anonymous 34107
>>34099This isn't a GFD answer so take this with a grain of salt but to me proper femdom that isn't a male fantasy is like, making them do stuff you want, giving orders. the more extreme stuff people like I suppose involves injuring them but that's not Gentle. (and I won't get graphic, but there are ways you can have sex with a man which don't please him much but would please most women)
I
Anonymous 34109
>>34099I consider myself basically a service top so all of that appeals to me. I enjoy pleasuring my partner, but I'm not a sub because I don't like bottoming/having the focus on me at all.
I just want to make a small guy feel good and toss him around is the answer, I guess. I'm also kind of into mean femdom for sadism reasons but this thread isn't about that.
>why don't you just get a girlfriend?I'd be the same with a gf..? Idk what point you're making here.
Anonymous 34114
>>34108
I'm not sure what you're responding to but if it was the comment about more extreme stuff I personally see no appeal in pegging but causing physical harm (with consent to a man who likes that) is an appealing idea)
Anonymous 34139
>>33390Liking the opposite extreme doesn't make you less mentally ill, anon.
Anonymous 34218
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I called my "bf" to tell him that he's a pathetic excuse of a "man" who should be castrated and he lost his shit in front of his co-workers
Anonymous 34219
>>34218That doesn't sound very safe and sane. Did you talk about it before at least?
Anonymous 34221
>>34218I don't think that belongs in this thread.
Anonymous 34222
>>34221It doesn't but I needed to tell someone. I'm worried.
Anonymous 34224
>>34223I think she might've just sent that to him out of the blue.
Anonymous 34237
>>34224I think it might be time for professional help.
Anonymous 34265
>>34099It's actually pretty difficult to find a decent submissive guy. The men you're talking about are bottoms (want to have stuff done to them) rather than submissives (want to follow orders, submit, serve). I admit, most bottoms disgust me. It's pretty sad when you look at femdom porn and it's pretty much the women working hard to get off the man in 50 different ways while she isn't even touched and doesn't even have an orgasm. Then the same men complain there aren't any dominant women. The man should be the objectified one, but even in most femdom the women is still the object, just in a different flavor. It's okay if people like different things but I hate that it's called femdom since it gives people the wrong idea about actual dynamics.
If you get into a relationship with an actual submissive man, it can be very lovely. He will enjoy pleasing you, putting you first, and would enjoy you taking the lead. Both inside and outside the bedroom. He likes being ordered around by you and gets genuinely pleasure from seeing you happy. I think a lot of women would try femdom more if they saw this more loving side of it.
Anonymous 34275
>>34265This makes a lot of sense, thank you for your answer.
I once had a short fling with a guy like that (he lived in a different country so it didn't last), and it was so much better than all my other femdom experiences. Couldn't pinpoint what it was though.
Do you have any advice on what to look for?
Anonymous 34321
>>34275I think the criteria are pretty much what you would look for in a good partner. Someone who is loving, caring, patient, understanding, etc. You have to really talk to them, scope them out. Where does their focus tend to lie? Stuff being done to them, or do they make the focus on you and what you want? Are they enthusiastic about learning more about you and what you enjoy? Or do they one-sidedly talk about how they'll "serve" you by lying there and making you do all the things they want you to do? Do they just talk about sex all the time or do you spend most of the time just enjoying each other's company and learning more about each other?
All of this is important because you won't get this type of relationship through flings/casual hookups. Good quality men aren't going to give themselves up to anyone. You really have to be patient. Even dom men have trouble finding a proper sub women. A lot of them are entitled, just like sub men, and only want to be treated roughly exactly as they want without the actual submitting part. So be very patient and observant if it's something you really want.
It's definitely worth it though.
Anonymous 34349
Is there such a thing as GFD that is restricted to the bedroom? Is that just the fetish side? Is that even possible?
While I think the sexual part is quite appealing, I wouldn't want my partner to act like that the whole time. Wouldn't it be hard to switch in-between personalities?
Anonymous 34350
I'm getting into GFD because my new boyfriend was a KHV before we met and he's enthusiastic, but he has no idea what to do and I'm more experienced, so he enjoys letting me take the lead & he's dumb and he knows it and says please and thank you when I teach him things.
Anonymous 34351
>>34349I have such relationship.
>thing you're 100% bottom because my 2 previous bfs made me feel sick about giving them pleasure because they never wanted to actually focus on mine>find new bf in february this year>he's the cutest motherfucker i've ever seen>first sex act we did was him going down on me because "it would be kinda unfair otherwise">start enjoying topping and teasing him because he always shows how much he likes it and at the same time asks for it so rarelyotherwise we're about even in who takes the lead in relationships, he goes with the flow many times so i can express what i want quite easily.
I would never want complete submission at all times like
>>34265 says with "outside the bedroom" stuff, he's soft and gentle when interacting with me but i wouldn't want him to be my doormat.
If i wanted submissive hoe with no backbone at all i'd just go lez tbh.
Anonymous 34399
>>34350>says please and thank you when I teach him things.so CUTE
Anonymous 34416
>>34351>If i wanted submissive hoe with no backbone at all i'd just go lez tbh.Epic. Liking submissive men makes you gay. You heard it here first.
Anonymous 34554
people believing the reiko stuff guess this really is borderline r9k tier stupidity lmaoooo
Anonymous 34808
How do I teach my virginal bf how to eat me out? He has facial hair and it scratches me when he's between my legs. I don't like direct stimulation and told him to flatten his tongue rather than applying direct pressure but I always have to stop him after a few seconds because it hurts too much
Anonymous 34823
>>34808Have him watch a tutorial and tell him to shave.
Anonymous 34956
>>34854Your story. You and him. More importantly, how you found a virgin bf.
Anonymous 34981
>>34956He was a friend of a friend for a few years until he awkwardly hit on me and I appreciated the effort and thought I'd give it a shot. Hes extremely clumsy about dating but very enthusiastic and I've known him to be very loyal and sweet so I'm willing to put in the effort too.
Anonymous 34982
>>34956you can find them on 4chan but don't go to stupid ass boards like r9k, go to something that has an interest. plenty of virg dorks on there for you to gently domme.
Anonymous 34996
>>34981So lucky. A friend of a friend?
AAAAAAAAAH. How am I supposed to get a friend of a friend when I don't even have any friends to begin with? I guess I should start making friends then. That's networking, I suppose.
>>34982>>34989>>34991Oh, education. That would work too
, IF I HAD ONE.
Thank you for the advice, though. It helps to know everyone here is so keen to assist one another. Feels like home.
Anonymous 35043
>>35042
This place has a /d/ board?
Anonymous 35045
>>35043>not being able to browse /d/Oh, I sometimes forget that there are those who never got their discord-exclusive Diamond Account™. What a shame.
Anonymous 35071
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>>35045I'm honestly not sure if you're trolling or not.
Anonymous 35073
>>35072
Ok, thanks for clarifying lol
Anonymous 35074
>>35073Yes. Fictional. There is no hidden /shota/ board.
Anonymous 35150
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sorry if shota shit isnt allowed
Anonymous 35162
>>34808Can he get you off with his hands? Maybe teach him how to rub you first, then he'll get a good idea of the general area you like to be stimulated as well as the pressure. It's somewhat hard to learn all that right off the bat with oral, since it requires more precision.
And is he uncut? If he is, try to explain how it would hurt if you pulled his foreskin back and rubbed his head directly and roughly with your fingers. It's kinda the same thing except worse with the clit because there are more nerves in a smaller area.
Anonymous 35165
>>35150Get therapy you degenerate pedophile
Anonymous 35262
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>>35150>>35151I hate /ss/fags, not just for the pedophilia but because I'll be looking at what I think is wholesome size difference art (since animu faces are so ambiguous) and then I read a tag or someone translates it and it's fucking /ss/.
idc if I can ~interpret it differently~, it's TAINTED.
Anonymous 35263
I feel gross after seeing that shit.
Anonymous 35266
>>35262/ss/ with a mother/son slant is the most disgusting thing on the planet. I consider guro to be less repulsive. There is nothing more pure and good in this world than a mother who loves her children. It's actually spiritual to me, and I don't believe in a god. But when I see a mother fuss over or attend to a small child, I am filled with peace. I innately understand this to be the closest thing on this earth that can be called holy and sacrosanct. Something deep inside me is just happier for having seen a display of maternity. My atheistic mind wants can only call it blessed.
And so perverting that which is absolutely sacrosanct, is so utterly disgusting and inhuman, that I really don't have any words for it. It makes me wish for some limitations of freedom of artistic expression.
Anonymous 35267
>>35266I agree, you put it beautifully. Not only are children pure, but a mother-child relationship is the most powerful relationship that most children will ever have. A good mother is amazing, an abusive mother is monstrous, and a sexually abusive mother is horrifying.
Anonymous 35269
>>35266>>35267IMO fatherxdaughter is worse. Most incest porn is tailored toward men and at least with /ss/, they’re self inserting as the kid being seduced by an older maternal figure. But with father/daughter it’s inserting as someone taking advantage of their own child.
Anonymous 35272
>>35269Okay, personal hierarchy:
>woman enjoying mother/son>man enjoying father/daughter>man enjoying mother/son>woman enjoying father/daughterFirst probably occurs the least (although I've seen them in passing), but it's easiest to get away with so I could never trust any women into it. I generally feel some pity towards people into being on the "receiving" end, but also disgusted that they're tainting something that should be pure.
Anonymous 35274
I think early teen shotas with late teen girls is fine. and the just teasing stuff is actually wholesome
I think men into mommy stuff do it because it feels "pure" from theyre perspective as theyre self inserting
I think men into father daughter is the worst because its a man wanting to r*pe a defenceless child
I think women into father daughter are degen
Anonymous 35278
The pics posted are like a 4 years old difference at best and no sign of incest
Anonymous 35280
>>35278We were just on the topic though. And mom/son definitely exists.
Anyway I'm
>>35262 and my point still stands. I still don't want to be tricked into thinking sexually about 12-year-olds when I want to get off to submissive manlets.
Anonymous 35285
>>35274do you equate calling your bf "daddy" during sex to women actively being into father/daughter stuff? Im asking because many people think the former is as degenerate as the latter, said people usualy have unfulfilling sex lives
Anonymous 35286
>>35285Thayre both awful
>said people usualy have unfulfilling sex livesDegenerate cope
Anonymous 35287
>>35285Not that Anon (I am
>>35266)
I think women who call their boyfriends/husbands "daddy" during sex are degenerate. As are the men. I think it's no different than a woman kissing a child after shortly after performing oral sex on her husband. It's fucking gross. That word, "daddy", is pure. It's how a small child refers to their father, whom they idolize. It's a truly disgusting trend. Like most modern sexual trends.
By extension, I think wanting to be choked or sodomized during sex is degenerate. Sex is a natural pleasure of the flesh. It is meant to be enjoyed because it is your reward for creating life. This is what nature intended. So what husband would sodomize the mother of his children, or let her call him the childish version of father (daddy), the same moniker his children give to him? It's debasing, it's subhuman.
>said people usualy have unfulfilling sex livesI think anyone who wants to involve simulated violence, choking, and the word "daddy" during coitus has an unfulfilling LIFE. What man wants to simulate violence during sex with the mother of his children? What mother wants her husband to simulate violence against her during sex? Who are these people really? How can you leave the bedroom and not cringe when your child runs up to your husband and calls him the same moniker you just did?
Anonymous 35290
>>35287>How can you leave the bedroom and not cringe when your child runs up to your husband and calls him the same moniker you just did?By leaving bedroom life in bedroom and realizing there are firm boundaries between regular everyday life and sex life. Do you feel sexual tension when you hear the name Dick in public? Do you think when someone calls female dog a bitch its with sexual undertones?
Learn the difference lol, are you one of people who claim videogames cause regular children to kill people?
Anonymous 35291
>>35290It's a rhetorical question. You're not the kind of person who actually likes kids, anyway, let alone have them.
Anonymous 35292
>>35290>By leaving bedroom life in bedroom and realizing there are firm boundaries between regular everyday life and sex life. You're being unrealistic. Human beings are animals, like any other. We are not computers. You cannot 'compartmentalize' like a computer running software. We are animals. We are conditioned to react to stimulus. If you repeating the words "daddy" during sex with a man, you are building an association in his mind.
>Do you feel sexual tension when you hear the name Dick in public? Do you think when someone calls female dog a bitch its with sexual undertones?You're being dishonest here. This is not a fair comparison. Those words have dual meanings. They are homonyms. Bitch and Dick mean different things depending on context. What does daddy mean? It has one singular definition. It is how a child refers to their father. It is a pure word. It is probably the purest word. And when you take it into the bedroom, you sully it. Utterly and terribly.
Anonymous 35296
>>35287>>35292What a load of hogwash. With the same logic, you should never say "I love you" during sex because you'll now associate it with sex when your child says "I love you" to you.
Anonymous 35297
>>35296"I love you" isn't sexual. It's an affirmation of the unyielding love and affection between two people. How is it used during sex? It is used to emotionally heighten the moment, and affirm to both parties there is profound, mutual affection present between them. It's not used in a debasing way. It's used in missionary sex, it's used before sex, after sex, while cuddling, it's used at breakfast, it's used over the phone. It's an omnipresent statement in a healthy relationship. You say it to your mom. You say it to your siblings. You say it to your children.
Who says daddy? Who? One group. Under one circumstance. Young children when referring to their father. It is a very specific word with a very specific audience and speaker.
You're intentionally being deceptive. But I'll humor you. How is "daddy" used during sex? "Fuck my harder, daddy", "I'm daddy's slut", "Your daddy's little girl". Stop playing coy. "Daddy" is used during rough , violent sex generally, not loving missionary, in SM type relationships, DD/lg or whatever you call it.
I'm not telling you how to live your life. But I'm not stupid. And neither are you. You know exactly why "I love you" is different from "Daddy".
Anonymous 35298
>>35296There's only one kind of love, and that's total undying love. You're thinking of lust, which is what you really feel in that moment.
Anonymous 35300
>>35287>>35297I agree with you, but I'm a degenerate into femdom so I am just being hypocritical. But I think we can both stand to agree that daddy/mommy fetishes are terrifying and I have no idea why the former especially is so normalized.
Anonymous 35301
>>35300> I'm a degenerate into femdom so I am just being hypocritical. Hypocrisy is a natural human state. Nature put many different forces inside of us that push and pull us in many different directions on a near constant basis. But that doesn't mean we should give in to every impulse, or that every impulse should be indulged. For the record I don't think all forms of sex that doesn't conform to "missionary sex for the purpose of procreation" is degen. But most of what's being pushed now as "normal" certainly is very fucking degen.
> But I think we can both stand to agree that daddy/mommy fetishes are terrifying and I have no idea why the former especially is so normalized.It's normalized as part of the push to sexualize children, I strongly believe. It's part of this push to leave nothing sacred, to defile everything good and pure. As for the individuals themselves, I don't really care to speculate on. I think it's taboo and that excites them. But I don't believe they think enough to consider maybe some things are taboo for a good reason.
Anonymous 35308
>>35301I don't think it's normalized to sexualize children. It's very literally, daddy issues that were never dealt with. They were either neglected, abused, or not shown much love when growing up and they seek out a man who will control them, guide them, and give them attention but in a violent and predatory way. People will say who cares if it stays in the bedroom etc, but very often a person's sexual and romantic inclinations are a huge part of the beliefs they have towards intimacy, love, and self-worth in general.
Anonymous 35309
>>35308You are correct, and phrased things far better than I could. It's very sad to me when people associate violence and mistreatment with love and affection, and seek out partners who titillate them rather than partners who are stable and loving. Its not only women with daddy issues, I see men with mommy issues doing the same.
I harbor hatred in my heart for women who partner with abusive, controlling men, and men who partner with abusive, controlling women. But only when children are involved. It is disgusting, because these people make terrible parents. "The sex is great", I hear them say. Okay well now your partner, who gives you much sexual titillation in the bedroom, invariably will act violent and controlling towards your children. Because this is how they treat those they love! You retarded asshole!
Those who reproduce with violence and controlling people, are supremely weak and pathetic.
Anonymous 35311
>>35309I definitely agree, especially rubs me the wrong way when the women is the one being hurt, even if it's completely consensual. She's the one who is carrying your children, why would you treat her body with violence and miscare? Why would she let her body be treated like that, knowing she is more delicate and prone to harm than a man is?
Anonymous 35312
>>35311I think a lot of it comes down to cultural programming that tells people loving, happy sex with someone you love is "boring". That a stable relationship is "unfulfilling". And sadly a lot of people are convinced of this.
Anonymous 35320
>>35308>>35309I think you're making very broad statements and doing too much pseudo-psychiatry. Different people can do the same things for different reasons or like the same things for different reasons and you're implying like this applies to every single person who has this behavior. Yeah, maybe some girls call their partner daddy because they have daddy issues, but it's pretty arrogant of you to say that this applies to every girl who does this or even the majority.
Anonymous 35328
>>35308On topic for the thread, I'm pretty sure I'm into femdom/gfd because of daddy issues funnily enough. I'm even attracted to men who roughly resemble my father (short, same race). It recently came to my attention that this is the case, probably because he wasn't just abusive/later absent but also a tragic person. So I want to care for a surrogate of him while also having some control over him (even if it's gentle control).
Anyway to contribute to the pseudo-pedo discourse, I agree things in the bedroom are difficult to compartmentalize. And though I've been interested in violence during sex (femdom, of course), I'm trying to train myself out of it because it doesn't feel right. It really doesn't make sense to harm a person you love and want to protect.
Anonymous 35330
>>35325>>35320You can't convince me the women into calling their boyfriend daddy in the bathroom and having them beat on them don't have daddy issues. They literally call them daddy, they obviously don't think of their own dad (I hope) but they have a distorted, perverted form of a father figure they're looking for in their partner. You can't try to write it off as some sort of abstraction… Same with guys who call their gf mommy and want her to "discipline" them.
>>35328I don't doubt that a lot of women in general whether they are into femdom or maledom have daddy issues. Parents nowadays suck more than ever.
Anonymous 35331
>>35330>You can't convince me the women into calling their boyfriend daddy in the bathroom and having them beat on them don't have daddy issues.The original question was only about calling your bf daddy during sex, not outright beating. Stop putting words in people's mouths ffs, people like you either can't or refuse to see subtle differences between things which later makes you post stuff like daddytalk equals woman getting somehow abused.
Oh and one more thing, i'm friends with two gay and we talk sex openly. He said he's into burly "bear" types and often calls them daddy during sex without even being in relationship with his occasional hookups. How does this translate to him being abused by them i wonder?
Anonymous 35332
>>35331I think you're just supporting what that Anon is saying, that people who want to call their partner 'daddy' during sex are mentally compromised and have dysfunctional attitudes towards sex and relationships. I think we're all compromised in some way, because modern society is so extremely damaging, but that doesn't mean you have to indulge every impulse. I will repeat myself. Daddy is a pure word and using it during sex is gross. You're roleplaying as a small child during coitus. And what is that doing but building an association in the man's mind that the word daddy is erotic? It's just gross.
Anonymous 35333
>>35331Gays are abused into being what they are. Don't lose your temper.
Anonymous 35335
>>35332Its a very freudian infatuation with the father figure. For me it has always been kind of creepy, like being called "mommy". Makes me wonder if he wants a GF or a mother that will bring him his tendies while he neets around.
Part of me gets it because romance is part of a reproductive impulse and calling your partner mommy or daddy might mean that you see them as potential partners in reproduction. In that case You would not be refering to your BF as "Daddy" becasue you see him as your own parent but because you see him as a potential daddy to your hypotethical fantasy children. But i never make that connection when i hear those words, it always rubs me the wrong way and i don`t want children either, so screw that mommy talk.
Anonymous 35336
>>35335I think in a post-sex afterglow, to lay with your partner and brush their hair and tell them they're gonna make a good father/mother some day- that is one thing. You are so overwhelmed with emotion and love and you envision your future together.
It is an entirely different thing to say "Fuck me harder, daddy" mid-coitus. You are using the verbiage of a small child (!) while receiving penetration (!!!). It's pedophilia, at least symbolically. It's literally what a child might say to their father if they were being sexually abused. That's why it is repulsive to me.
Anonymous 35337
>>35333So many /pol/ moids here these days. What's even the point?
Anonymous 35339
>>35337Because females can't hate males obsessed with males.
Anonymous 35342
>>35337If you're skeptical, why don't you ask male homosexuals you know and find out how many were sexually abused as young boys?
Anonymous 35343
>>35339>>35342Dumb and homophobic take. Let me guess, bisexual women do it for the attention?
Anonymous 35344
>>35331Ok, it doesn't even need the beating in there to make my point. The power dynamic is the main thing I'm talking about here. It's not abuse since it's obviously consensual. But it's obviously perverting the father figure, which is supposed to be kind, gentle, caring into something that's domineering, self-serving, controlling, and disgusting. When a woman's sexuality is fucked up their self-worth is compromised and they tend to want to make themselves a victim. Even if it's consensual it's still sad. Who would want their mother to act that way? I would be disgusted if she did.
Gays I feel similarly about. If they are into older men, call them daddy, and are also into super rough sex, I feel like they were probably abused in some way. Same with women.
>>35335What you're describing reminds me of a show where the parents mutually call each other papa and mama as a pet name sort of thing. That makes sense because they are quite literally parents and it's not a fetishy thing but a term of endearment.
Anonymous 35345
>>35333>>35342I mean I like women and no one ever abused me.
Anonymous 35347
>>35342I dunno anon, doesn´t hold up at all to what i´ve seen. Those that grow up in loving , supporting families that are aware of their sexuality end up coming up even gayer and prouder.
The kind of people who turn gay out of spite probably end up getting flagged as mental cases by the more normie lgbt types.
Anonymous 35354
i liked this thread better when it was cute boys getting snuggled and stuff…
Anonymous 35355
>>35347Why is your name color different?
Anonymous 35357
>>35355you've used imageboards before, right?
Anonymous 35358
>>35357Just 4chan and I don't remember different color names. It's not a tripcode either.
Anonymous 35359
>>35358I'm still not 100% convinced you could be
this new and yet still somehow found crystal cafe - unless crystal cafe is more popular than I thought it was - but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt anyway.
It just means they've entered something into the email field. This could be an actual email address, but in this case, they entered just a bunch of spaces. You'll also see it on more classic imageboards where you used to type your post options into the email field (like sage and noko) instead of checking a box like you do here.
Side note: I really wish there was a nonoko option here.
Anonymous 35360
>>35359Oh I get it now, I figured it was something like that once I clicked your name. But I've never come across it on 4chan, who uses the email field?
Anonymous 35366
>>35343>homophobicIt's not fear I feel. Just hate.
Anonymous 35395
>>34956>>34842Virginal young men, at least the type I presume you are interested in, attend Churches and Christian orgs like Young Life. A friend I know met a guy who was saving himself for marriage through Young Life. You have to get out of bars and dating apps.
Anonymous 35397
>>35396I don't think they were trying to be mean. I think they were saying anyone who uses the email field on 4chan nowadays is <80 IQ, since the email field on 4chan has been neutered and doesn't work anymore.
Anonymous 35398
>>35397Oh… I guess I really am stupid.
Anonymous 35400
>>35359Why are you doing it though?
Anonymous 35406
>>35400That was just a quick test if regular spaces actually worked or not. Some boards filter out anything that's just empty spaces and I thought maybe the other anon was using NBSP, ideographic space, or some other special whitespace character.
Anonymous 35538
>>35537
What is this imageboard you speak of polish-anon?
Anonymous 35549
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I found this cute doujinshi on a certain website. The magic number is 272937.
Anonymous 35556
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what's the appeal for you all?
also why do I feel like an outcast for being really nurturing with my cute boy? dom guys turn me off, but every girl I know goes for that type.
Anonymous 35603
I have a daddy/mommy fetish, although calling my partner daddy or him calling me mommy does nothing in itself. The puritan posts are funny to me, what makes a fetish a fetish is because it is considered socially taboo. It's the same reason we blush, to physically signal we've experienced something socially deemed inappropriate. Allowing my partner to dominate me is the ultimate act of love and a lot of trust, so taking our trust to the max by mimicking an abusive relationship, allowing my partner to do whatever he wants with me and calling him "daddy," is me giving my complete vulnerability (and vice versa by him calling me mommy). Stop overanalyzing shit. We all do it for different reasons.
Anonymous 35616
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>>35549>no>i don't have a uterus>that's not how it works
>yes you have Anonymous 35647
>>35603>what makes a fetish a fetish is because it is considered socially tabooNo it doesn't. Sexual fetish is medical term for abnormal stimulus needed for sexual arousal. If you can't get horny at all without looking at cup of tea then cup of tea is your fetish.
Taboos are topics you aren't allowed to talk about
When people say fetishes, most of the time they think of just kinks which are sexual tastes, often weird, but not crucial to becoming aroused in general.
Please don't confuse these terms.
Anonymous 35649
>>35603>>35647Yeah, a fetish doesn't need to be taboo for it to be a fetish.
It's possible to have a kink that's socially acceptable. I have a fetish for men eating food/stuffing but it's not because it's ~racy and forbidden~ it's just hot to me. Still def a fetish though.
Anonymous 36055
How do I improve at organizing dates? I dislike eating and food in general, so it's difficult for me to lead in that way. I'd just rather the guy be happy, but I want to figure a way to do it that doesn't require them to feel like they have to ask me. I also wish I were better at figuring out what to do in general. I will be the one to initiate hanging out, but they'll decide what to do because I will admit I don't really have anything in mind. It's difficult because I am so used to having to act all uwu submissive in order to eventually give the male some form of happiness in the relationship, and I am grateful I don't have to be like that now, but like, fuck, never had practice for it, and I wish i did.
Anonymous 36057
>>36055It sounds like it's stressful for you to decide, so why force yourself to? You can put a dominant spin on it, such as ordering him around "you make the plans today and find something we'll both enjoy." Then he can give you a bunch of suggestions and you choose from them. You can even straight up say that you don't like planning, that you want him to surprise you, any amount of things. A lot of times people think being dominant means doing all the work, doing things you don't like, but you can delegate that to your partner if it's something you don't feel like doing.
And if you want to learn how to be better at deciding, visualize and think of how you want the day to play out. Do you want it to be an active day? Romantic? Casual? Do you want to do something new? Do something competitive? Relax at home mostly? Now that you don't have someone else to make all the decisions for you, you get to learn yourself better.
Anonymous 36087
>>36057>You can put a dominant spin on it, such as ordering him around "you make the plans today and find something we'll both enjoy." Then he can give you a bunch of suggestions and you choose from them.That's actually a really good idea anon.
>>36055Try thinking of something you enjoy doing or find romantic, or that you think your date would enjoy. Dates don't have to be a typical go out and eat thing, you could go out on the beach and surf, walk in the park, or go to an arcade; just things you would enjoy doing. You could also look up date ideas online and draw from them. Good luck anon!
Anonymous 36088
>>35616You have an artist's mind anon.
Anonymous 36100
To me, "Gentle Femdom" is an over-the-top take on what should be a normal, accepted relationship dynamic: love between a female alpha and a male beta/omega, with the former leading the latter, as she was meant to (by her development). The people who are involved in this "activity" should -at least- be spending -a little- of their free time promoting themselves (publicly) as examples to disprove the Darwinoholics, who insist that we are all wired for dependence and could not possibly develop for anything different. The truth of it all is that those of us who are "addicted and adapted" to testosterone surges (the body's reward mechanism for "being the boss"), regardless of the -volume- of testosterone we posses (our sensitivity to testosterone is way higher than that of males, btw), will be more dominant, and more confident. When you are dominant and confident, you do not need a "protector" (or "provider"), and you can experience attraction to men who are less potent than you, because you won't subconsciously see them as threats (threats, because of the possibility of leaving you in the mud when you are pregnant - if I can pull myself out of the mud, which I can, I don't care what he does). The standard attraction to dominant males is not some kind of programming - it's part of our collective inferiority complex (and the inferiority complex of female animals, who have yet to realize that they are naturally set up to have an inferiority complex). "Normal" female preferences (for a dominant partner) are a psychological outcome (humans like people who they think can do things they think they can't), not a hard-wired mechanism. I'm not saying that there won't always be people who doubt themselves and need someone else to do things they lack the confidence for (there will be tons of them) - I'm just saying that we need to challenge this idea that we (the female half of the population) are programmed to internally assume we're weak AF and need someone else to do things we can do.
Female hormones obscure the mental effects of the little testosterone surges that naturally get men introduced to the reward mechanism (which happens long before their puberty, when their levels still match ours), but that is literally the only thing that prevents us from realizing how dominant we can be/feel - once we have unobscured it, we can feel it in full, and it's a good feeling (it's the "ME! I'M A BIG DEAL!" feeling), and it leads us to "better" (higher) places. Men are not, just because of their higher levels of testosterone, blessed with a more useful (for mental purposes) quantity of the stuff - after a certain level (much lower for us), more is redundant, but ANY significant elevation from what the body's norms are (a surge) yields the same psychological effect (feeling powerful and in-control), which lingers long after the levels have returned to normal. Anyone who wishes to experience what I am talking about should go be a little selfish, treat their challenges as an enemy, fight "the enemy", win, revel in it (really, really make sure it goes to your head), let go of any guilt/shame that comes with the ego boost, put the ego boost first, and keep winning - life starts to feel simpler, your mind becomes clearer, your thoughts become more structured, and you would never again ask why a woman would want to wear the pants in her relationship - this is the true power of the ovaries.
Anonymous 36108
>>35266What you said but for sexuality period
Anonymous 36583
>>36055Any status updates on the mission OP?
Anonymous 36885
>>36670
How does one eat Clorox?
Anonymous 36908
>>36907nta but what's wrong with a little THICC BOI representation itt? Clearly one anon digs it.
tbf the only man posted itt who has appealed to me so far is
>>36901But I'll cape for skinnyfats
Anonymous 36913
>>36911
Standing up for guys who are not toned but not quite fat either lmao.
Sorry for misreading your tone.
Anonymous 36948
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>"So as you can see I'm not forgetting to vacuum suck this time"
Anonymous 37333
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Dredging this thread up from the ashes to ask an important question: what do you guys like about being dominant? For me it's just because I really despise the female role as society defines it. I wanna do crazy things and be dangerous and act like a moron, dammit!
Anonymous 37337
>>37333It just feels…right. I'm naturally sort of stocky, blunt, and I have a deep voice for a woman (no I'm not mtf lmao). Although I'm not super tall I've found myself having a naturally imposing presence that somehow frightens people. Including the men I pursue. Shame!
I guess my sexuality has just always been in line with everything else so I never questioned it.
But also submissive men cute.
Anonymous 37358
>>36951I really want to get a qt bf and do that with him now
Anonymous 37382
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>>37333Because topping a guy makes it feel like I'm topping society.
Anonymous 37385
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Anonymous 37393
where do you even find a real qt bf lmao
i looked at the subreddits for this shit and yeah they're okay but 98% of the men who are actually looking are cringey as fuck
Anonymous 37409
>>37393Do you mean the gfd personals on reddit? Just check it every now and then when you get lonely until a unicorn appears, or you could post one yourself. Although the latter is like giving every door to door salesmen in the country your address. It's pretty much the same as normal reddit personals in the way that a significant amount of the men are cringey, but with gfd, patience is the key.
Anonymous 37425
>>37393>>37409Whoa wait, if I'm interpreting it right, of course it's gonna sound fucking cringe when he says (exactly as OP) that he likes:
>Snuggling>Domination>Blushy boysetc etc.
Like what the fuck did you expect from such a personal? Isn't that all the stuff you wanted from gfd?
Anonymous 37435
>>37425nah because most of the community falls into three categories
1) uwu mommy uwuwuwuwuwuwu i am incapable of basic tasks uwuwuwu
2) gfd is where i just lie here and you sex me, right?
3) i want you to RAM a NINTENDO DS in my ANUS and TIE ME TO A BUS and EAT MY STOMACH and SLAP MY GRANDMOTHER and
for fucks sake i just want a regular boy who isn't stupid and likes it when i'm in charge of stuff sometimes
Anonymous 37437
>>37435sounds like you would be best served by a normal guy who you can mold just slightly
Anonymous 37438
>>37437Sadly this is how it is. Most guys who identify as submissive or being into femdom are terrible submissives, because they always place all the focus their fantasies. To be fair, they get their ideas of femdom from porn and hentai, where the women is basically doing everything to get the guy off (even if this means pain, orgasm denial, etc) and she doesn't even enjoy it or get any pleasure out of it at all. And then men wonder why there aren't any dominant women! A lot of people tend to forget the whole meaning of submission is submitting to the other person, not forcing your own fantasies on someone else without reciprocating at all.
You'll have a lot more luck with a normal guy. If he loves you he'll want to please you and try new things out. He won't have a warped idea of femdom like 99% who are into it do, and may actually enjoy it in the end.
Anonymous 37856
holy shit the greatest thing happened
i went to a restaurant with a guy (who i do like, but we're just friends now, rip) and beforehand he asked me where i wanted to go and i gave him an answer and he let out the BIGGEST SIGH OF RELIEF and said that that had never happened to him before and god DAMN it was cute. also he thinks we split the bill but i secretly paid for the whole thing B)
Anonymous 37901
>>37862
>Also why are you happy about having paid more?
Not that miner but a lot of people see the spending of money as a way of exerting dominant energy. Like a cavewoman bringing home the catch of the day or whatever. Imagine you're in prehistory
>go out fishing with Grug
>both share communal bucket for fish
>he catches like 2 but so distracted with chatting he doesn't really keep count
>don't reveal to him that you caught like 20, just silently appreciate that you are the provider
I can understand it.
Anonymous 37931
>>37862he put down his card and got up to go to the bathroom so while he was gone i told the waitress to just use mine
>>37901this. in the future i'm gonna try to be more obvious about it, but i didn't feel like the beginning of the relationship had to be me yelling LOOK FOOL I PAID
Anonymous 37938
>>37935
you must learn the gruggish arts fellow miner
Anonymous 37945
what do you think about the idea of male chastity? I feel like it could really elevate the intimacy in the relationship and it might be a very empowering experience for a girl but never really had guts to propose something like that to my partner
Anonymous 37950
>>37945personally I'm not into it but I can totally understand why people would be - it's definitely a strong redefiner of the power dynamic and is a lot of fun for a lot of people. I don't really like it because I'm not interested in exerting direct control - I want my role to be more like a take-charge no-nonsense colleague than a boss, if that makes any sense.
Anonymous 37979
>>37956The link doesn’t work for me, anyone else having the same problem? Psychology, especially relating to love/relationships, really interests me so I really wanted to read it aaaaa.
Anonymous 38730
I wonder if it's true that interest in femdom is just a product of loneliness.
It's an accusation that mostly gets made at men, but a lot of femdommes have talked about a bone-deep, biting loneliness that haunts them too. Lonely childhoods, lonely adolescences, and lonely, empty, unfulfilling relationships with men.
It's probably true for me, when I get hit by waves of loneliness I fall further into less and less gentle femdom fantasies.
Anonymous 38731
>>38730Maybe, all of your points apply to me as well. I've always been awkward with people as an only child who didn't get any interaction with other kids for the first 5 years of my life. I enjoyed caring for animals though, so I think that later evolved into wanting to have a weak little partner who relies on me.
>when I get hit by waves of loneliness I fall further into less and less gentle femdom fantasiesIs it out of anger towards men? That's the case for me.
Anonymous 38732
>>38731It's hard to say. It could be anger, but it could just be desire, magnified by depressive fantasy. The idea of owning someone so completely, of having more right to him than he has to himself and the idea of not being anxious or afraid to
use that right, all the way to the end.
Anonymous 38851
>>38850
moid posting is allowed now?
Anonymous 38855
>>38853
>I've heard that virgin boys aren't desired because they're inexperienced with sex, is this true?
>asking for a friend haha..
Explain yourself.
Anonymous 38856
>>38850
>I've heard that virgin boys aren't desired because they're inexperienced with sex
Not really, its because it never takes long to realize why they remain virgin and its never because they are virtuous or anything remotely like that.
Anonymous 38860
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>>38856>>38855I never saaaid I was a moid :^)
>>38857It varies, but like
>>38856 said, often it's not for good reasons
Which doesn't necessarily mean it's for bad reasons either
Anonymous 38861
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>>38857unpleasant, uninteresting , no sex appeal, creepy behaviour, manipulative traits, etc.
Is like a 30 yr old person being dirt broke and still mooching of his/her family, like sure, there's a pletora of factors that can contribute and the economy, blah blah blah, but you'd kinda assume maybe that person is not good at keeping a job or handling his finances or has some bad traits that keeps him from at least being independant, like being spoiled or lazy or not very good at their jobs so Is never not just about being a virgin, but the why that person is so old and still a virgin that makes women think twice.
Also, is scary to take the virginity of someone and them turning out to be major obsessive stalkers and creeps who go overboard about it.
Anonymous 38862
>>38861>>38860What would be a good reason (or a not bad one) for a guy to be a virgin?
Anonymous 38867
>>38862He doesn't trust people and he's afraid of catching some ailment
Anonymous 38871
>>38867That's understandable but it still sounds a bit weird doesn't it?
Anonymous 38903
>>38871Actually she kinda nailed it tbh
Anonymous 38905
>>38903So you'd be fine with a guy being a virgin because "He doesn't trust people and he's afraid of catching some ailment" and wouldn't find it weird?
Anonymous 38908
>>38907
So you're a dude? I don't understand.
And the first reason is that "he doesn't trust people"?
Anonymous 39147
>>38862>Being asexual>Religious or strict upbringing>Repressed sexualityThese seem like pretty good/ok reasons to me.
Anonymous 39148
>>39147Wait just thought of another one.
>Too focused on school or careerI remember seeing a post here on crystal cafe months ago ago how a significant portion of incoming IV league students have never had sex or a relationship.
Here's a source concerning harvard
https://www.newsweek.com/58-harvard-came-school-virgins-quarter-leave-way-336847 Anonymous 39152
>>39148I don't think that's a particularly good reason.
The immediate social environment of those 25% of Harvard grads who graduated as virgins was one in which 75% of their peers had managed to have normal, sane, healthy sexual relationships while focusing just as hard on their studies or responsibilities. The women in their immediate social environment would need to be crazy to take such a mark of inferiority as reasonable, and I sincerely doubt that pushing out of their immediate social environment is any better of a strategy for Harvard students than for anyone else. Online dating is nightmarish for women, but men have additional ridiculous things to contend with in that arena. There are small companies dedicated to making fake female profiles on match.com and e-harmony to interact with men there in order to keep a large male userbase on the site, and I learned from the documentary "Do You Trust This Computer?" (highly recommended) that there are actually Artificial Intelligence firms dedicated to similar frauds. Failing the entire immediate social environment is a significantly bigger red flag than failing a course. The alternative to getting an Electrical Engineering degree and earning $120k/yr is becoming a certified trade Electrician and earning $100k/yr, and this follows with all academic disciplines and their trade school counterparts; several Associates degrees out-earn Bachelors, Masters, and even Ph.D. degrees. However the alternative to developing a relationship in real life is the nightmarish web of lies and loneliness of attempting to develop a relationship online. It's not a good exchange, not something anyone with actual foresight or intelligence would take.
Also there's probably some strong links with some of the other alarming statistics cited there.
>A third of seniors said they did not have jobs lined up.> Twenty percent said they had sought treatment for depression, and 16 percent had done so for anxiety.These seem unlikely to be evenly balanced between the sexually normal students and the quarter of the school population unable to balance academics and socio-sexual normalcy. 30% of grads saying they did not have jobs or work lined up after graduation? I would bet extremely heavily that those who sacrificed social-sexual success also sacrificed socio-economic career and life success, to get their diploma from ~Harvard~. Sane, successful people do not cut themselves off from such basic and important aspects of life. Saying those quarter of Harvard grads who held onto their virginity in pursuit of a degree is are okay, on the one hand, but that depressed, anxious, jobless wrecks are not okay, is putting too much of a halo on Harvard. The two groups are almost certainly just one group differentiated only by a few marks on a few pieces of paper. I sincerely doubt that any of the Harvard virgins were anywhere near the top of their classes. It just seems too natural that humans would need relationships to perform at their best, intellectually, socially, and economically.
The idea that a virgin with a degree from Harvard is better than a virgin with a trade cert or whatever is based on the idea that the Harvard virgin was trying his absolute best and succeeded but the other virgin wasn't trying his best and failed, when it seems really likely that they both tried their very best and are both failures with equally bleak and empty futures ahead of them. One has a different degree from the other but a degree is not a ticket to anything.
Anonymous 39357
>>39352It was a boy in a girl outfit attempting to imitate the poses seen in from such characters in Japanese cartoons.
You missed nothing and the mods did their job
Anonymous 39359
>>39357Whaaattt, that sounds sorta cute. Were they at least cute? Or was it some meme cosplay.
Anonymous 39360
>>39359It was not very good and I don’t believe it was cosplay
Anonymous 39447
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For what seems like the majority of girls claiming sub guys are ew, there seems to be a hell of a lot of threads about it
Anonymous 39460
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>>39447Girls like dominant men, women like submissive men
And enlightened women like switch men simple as
Anonymous 39526
>>39447A majority is only a majority. The minority still exists.
Anonymous 39528
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>>39460Switch men are usually too bratty for me. There's a certain elegance in having a good sub boy.
Anonymous 39534
>>39528Mmmhhh, those legs. That tummy.
Anonymous 39543
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>>39528I would have to disagree but I respect your beliefs.
that picture got me feeling some type of way 0_0 I love a skinny boy with a butt/thighs Anonymous 39553
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>>39543I love this comradeship energy anon.
Also yuh, I thought the twink pictures here were missing some important parts Anonymous 39594
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daily reminder to only dress your boy in pjs and long sleeve shirts
Anonymous 39599
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>>39594Ok classy anon, but have you considered boys in thigh highs?
Anonymous 39662
>>39599You're just basically into girls, aren't you
Anonymous 39664
>>39662Caught me I guess anon. I'm bi, but I specifically like androgyny tho. So I like tomboyish girls and androgynous boys. Feminization and self proclaimed sissies are kinda gross to me though. I just wanna boy in few cute clothes, not a fetishist that makes me want to call upon the exterminatus.
Anonymous 39676
Spoiler
sex with no man is as good as the feeling of clitoral masturbation
but I think clitoral masturbation might be our only way of commune with god
Anonymous 39679
>>39676>sex with no man is as good as the feeling of clitoral masturbationWell that would be true if the first protip regarding sex for guys wasn't "focus on the clit if you want to make her feel good"
even if you ignore the guy completely sex with someone who gives a fuck about being a good sex partner you're just getting masturbation for free
Anonymous 39690
>>39676Gonna echo the other two anonettes
Foreplay usually involves a LOT of clitoral masturbation by your partner as a way of getting wet. You should talk to your partners about being more giving lovers.
Anonymous 39724
How come so many cc anons claim to be dommes, but dommes don't seem to exist in rl at all?
It's really confusing to me.
Anonymous 39730
>>39724I think people adopt unusual sexual roles as a result of social isolation, or perhaps people with unusual sexual roles habitually isolate themselves. In either case, a place like CC you're more likely to find weirdos.
On a related note, I think it's easier to talk about how "hot" the fantasy is of being a dom (or sub) is in theory and different to actually do it. So people might talk about what they desire on an imageboard but never actually act it out. Also, I've noticed that some of my fantasies from written erotica don't actually stimulate me when acted out irl. This is very strange to me.
Anonymous 39752
>>39730
>or perhaps people with unusual sexual roles habitually isolate themselves.Yeah I think you might be right, at least in my case I think a lot of my social isolation has to do with the kind of relationship I wish for. Whenever I try to go out into the world I do so by repressing and trying to overcome those feelings.
>I think it's easier to talk about how "hot" the fantasy is of being a dom (or sub) is in theory and different to actually do it.I've wondered about this, part of me thinks that maybe if I actually tried it in rl I might not even like it after all and thus be cured.
Anonymous 39756
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>>39752>I've wondered about this, part of me thinks that maybe if I actually tried it in rl I might not even like it after all and thus be cured.Or the reverse anon.
Anonymous 39757
>>39756I want to pet a boy's virgin peepee. And snuggle with his warm, soft body.
For hours. Aw yiss.
Anonymous 39773
>>39759I want pic related. Strong yet dumb men that can be easily manipulated aww yeah
Anonymous 39782
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>>39765Fate is kind to some anons, it could happen.
Anonymous 39788
>>39782I swear you people are slowly corrupting me
Anonymous 39789
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>>39782>no shy bf to embarrass and then give cuddles afterthis thread is turning me wtf
Anonymous 39829
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>>39789>posts cute animal boy that you already had saved on your computerYou were already turned anon.
Anonymous 40010
Anyone got any good femdom manga or hentai to read that doesn't pander to scrote pleasure only? Asking for a friend.
Anonymous 40071
When a vanilla or submissive woman says that she loathes submissive men and they're all trash, I think "that's completely uncalled for" and want to antagonize her over her taste.
However, when a dominant woman says she loathes submissive men and that they're all trash, I think "good call, I'm right there with you."
Am I crazy?
Anonymous 40073
>>40071Venting frustrations from within a group is a lot different than insulting a group as an outsider. A pretty simple concept.
Anonymous 40082
>>40071I think you just hate submissive men in general.
Anonymous 40145
Are there any gfd discords yall like? Most of the ones i have participated in were incredibly toxic and anti-female
Anonymous 40146
>>40145>gfd discords >anti-female wot? what do they want then? trannies?
Anonymous 40148
>>40146Just the way it was structured and moderated, really
Its silly to expect a 50/50 ratio but there was like 5,000 thirsty af guys in there for every girl and the culture it created was mostly a bunch of male subs bitching about tfw no dom gf harassing the few women that stuck around
My biggest problem with it was how fast it was, it was basically impossible to hold a conversation with anyone
This has been the case in most of the discords ive participated in
Anonymous 40154
>>40147There's disboard and other sites that advertise invites based on the tags. There was also a flagship discord server for the gentle femdom reddit at one point that's still floating around (probably the biggest one?) and invites for random gfd servers floating around the hidden parts of tumblr.
>>40148I've been on quite a few of the servers and some can have some unexpectedly even ratios. I've seen 1 for every 4 quite a bit and even a slightly lower than 1 to 2 ratio. What's common among most of them though is that moderation doesn't box in or regulate the thirsty guys enough. Which makes it impossible to build a community or to provide a space that's comfortable for women. I've seen some pretty good solutions as of late though, sadly no one server uses all of them yet. Solutions being:
>A specific thirst posting chat to contain the thirst posting mostly out of sight and to throw users into if they start thirst posting (hypothetically encourages thirst posting though?)>Aggressively banning inappropriate or cringey users>Hiding or making nsfw chats view only until you've been active enough on the server>Hiding irl photos, selfies, or self posted lewds until you've become a long term trusted user or just outright making them against the rules.>Roles that indicate a preference of whether or not you're open to DMs (banning or warning users that don't follow the rules).>Having private role restricted chats for both subs and dommes respectively.The biggest immediate redflag for me when it comes to discord gfd/femdom servers are:
>All male moderators/admins>Straight up self lewd chat open to the public full of dick picks>4chan serverWhen the servers are bad, they're really really bad. I've actually found one that's pretty comfy in the last week though, but I don't wanna post it because I'm afraid it would get flooded by male lurkers.
Anonymous 40163
Why are you guys talking instead of posting cat boys?
Anonymous 40186
>>40164
They are loyal, fuzzy, smell nice but they are also childish with short attention span and need constant disciplining.
Anonymous 40227
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>>40164
Boys with simple fuzzy cat ears and maybe paws are a lot cuter than a rubber dog mask. Cat boys are usually also more independent and less needy imo.
Anonymous 40228
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>>40010Sadistic beauty? There are also a lot of doujinshi that make the male sub the object of attraction like dhibi's manga and countless others I have not spent the time to remember the author or name.
Anonymous 40230
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>>40229
If I was I think I'd know a bit more than 2 things to tell anon. I haven't actually read sadistic beauty, just seen caps from it. It's really long and I'm not horny enough to read it.
Anonymous 40233
>>39662obligatory lesanon blackpill.
Anonymous 40235
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>>40228Sadistic Beauty is good in the sense that there's a lot of male fanservice. Bad in the sense that the main female lead feels a lot like a dominatrix stereotype especially later on. She seems sterile and cold, like she never gets any sexual pleasure out of any of this, she never gets touched (by any of the male characters) or orgasms. Strangely enough there are les scenes with her where she gets eaten out.
A bit of a rant but there's always this strange thing in male-oriented femdom where the woman never gets any sexual pleasure. It's like she is only a dominatrix providing a service to get the guy off and he gets to be completely passive. The guy neither provides physical pleasure nor any acts of service. Boring. Even worse when there are multiple women who just play with him and he does absolutely nothing.
Anonymous 40237
>>40235Wasn't sadistic beauty written by a woman though? I find it really odd that a female gaze ended up making a male oriented femdom comic. Not really odd when you consider that most of her audience is male though. Straight porn is mostly marketed towards men. I think you'll probably have to going looking around some horny literature if you wanna find what you're looking for.
Anonymous 40238
>>40237Doesn't matter if it's written by a woman because plenty of women write stuff to pander to men. Look how many ecchi mangaka are women. But anyway a lot of male pandering stuff is in Sadistic Beauty.
>extremely cold, almost asexual-appearing female sadist>said female lead receives almost no sexual pleasure throughout the entirety (bottom men LOVE being useless knowing they get all the pleasure and the woman has to work to get them off)>said female lead is bi and it ends in a threesome with the male lead and another girl (another things scrotes love)>plenty of focus on the women, although there is a little more focus on the men than usual which is good and this is the only thing that makes me believe it was written by a womanBut it's expected for women to pander to men since the beginning of forever. It is a lot better than most femdom works but still not good, the bar is so slow. It's nice to look at and that's rare enough. If anyone has good suggestions on stories or literature it would be appreciated.
Anonymous 40259
>>40246
we should start a smut thread at /nsfw/ to get it going
Anonymous 40261
greentext pervert.…
>>40246>>40238>>40259I have a tiny bit of greentext smut stored up but I dunno if this is what anons are looking for.
Anonymous 40274
>>40261>tfw no blushy sub bf who’s embarrassed by his fetishesGod I want that. I’m no hardcore domme, but I’d get into it for that sort of dynamic.
Anonymous 40294
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>>40263Pic related is the only other one I really have that has quality and I don't think it counts as smut.
>>40280I found it off of tumblr back when the gfd community was public and strong there. A community still exists there, but it's just so much harder to gain traction and find new content when nothing is publicly visible. There used to be a bunch of gfd artists(I still have a few cute comics from them) but they've all but vanished from the gfd scene as far as I can tell.
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>>40296
In December (I’m pretty sure), Tumblr was banned from the Apple store because porn bots were posting cp. The Tumblr staffs’ brilliant solution to this was to ban porn altogether from the platform. The thing is that it didn’t even solve the porn bot problem because I’ve been followed by a few porn bots recently and still see them around. Now pic related happens when I try to look up cute gfd content.
Anonymous 40300
>>40296>I never got into the whole Tumblr scene, did I miss out on much?Yeah it was really good and wholesome, I really miss it, there were a whole bunch of artists making content for it, cute boys girls would fawn over, blogs throwing out text post after text post of absolute whoppers and we started gaining some real traction with the greater community. It was really sad what they did to the community. They specifically banned the gfd and gentle femdom tags, not just nsfw or pornographic content, but everything, even though most of the content for it was just text based stories and psas. We really took the space we were given for granted.
The community still exists on there though, and even if it'll never reach the peak that it previously had, it's still probably the best way to find and read gfd stuff. All you really have to do is get a link to one GFD blog and then branch out and find other blogs from what they're reposting.
I'd say
https://lonely-gfd-cutie.tumblr.com/? Because he's one of the few blogs that managed to be marked as non-explicit and if you go far down enough he reblogs posts that help you find other gfd blogs or f*mdom blogs.
Anonymous 40301
>>40300huh, that's not how I expected a link to be spoilered.
Anonymous 40303
>>40299
Maybe? I think just the gfd thread has been getting more populated.
Anonymous 40436
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>>40398poz'd as in contract an std so as to intentionally spread it to females on crystal.cafe
For instance the C.I.A. might do this heinous act to a neighborhood or something of that sort so as to intentionally spread S.T.D.'s among that section of the population
Anonymous 40479
Now I really want to know what I missed…
Anonymous 40481
>>40479Just a scrote thirstposter that's been wasting his life annoying the board the last few days.
Anonymous 40524
Spoiler
so how long until we get our own separate containment board on crystal.cafe anons?
>>40164
Catboys are an acquired taste. They're just something you just learn to really like if you like boys doing cutesy things. Alternatively they can be bratty in a kitty sort of way pic related but, that's a whole other thing.
Anonymous 40557
>>40524I'm delighted at his cute little pp. I want a bratty kitty, too.
Anonymous 40561
>>40524>tfw no genetically engineered cat boy for domestic ownership Anonymous 40598
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>>40246We could make a separate thread for greentext stories. I remember a few gfd greentext stories that floated around /feels/ so there could be demand for it. We could also just post greentext stories here if anons have any.
>>40259I don't think putting them on /nsfw/ would be necessary because they're not photos and a significant amount might not even be /nsfw/
Anonymous 40625
>>40621It stands for role reversal. GFD and RR are very closely related, so much so that Gentle Femdom is used to refer to the porn of this kind of dynamic and role reversal refers to the aesthetic and the romance of the relationship. At least in reddit circles.
Anonymous 40654
>>40524who's the author of this masterpiece?
Anonymous 40655
>>40238the author did tell in an interview that her work was aimed at women, because all bdsm manwhas were for guys
Anonymous 40657
>>40654Alex law you're welcome anon.
Anonymous 40672
Spoiler
>>40657Their stuff is funny than sexy most of the time imo.
Anonymous 40678
How do I fix myself miners. I have a big femdom fetish but I'm too shy/autistic to act on it. I have a bf right now who's really dominant and masculine but he still blushes and smiles while looking away when you make him embarrassed. Literal gap moe. I know I could really make him embarrassed by giving him compliments on his body but I'm too shy to do it. Give me some guidance, what could I say/do?
Everything sounds so good in my fantasies, but in real life it feels weird.
Anonymous 40696
>>40678>>40678Yeah what >>40680 said, talk to him. Even if he seems dominant he might be a switch or at least willing to try something new. Should start with something small
like pinning him down, straddling him, and maybe telling him that he's a g**d boy. Talk to him about it and if he seems interested try and pull an ol' switcheroo when things start going and
you're in the mood.
Anonymous 40707
>>40701
because it's lewd anon.
Anonymous 40781
>>40723
someone has to anon <3
Anonymous 43998
what ever happened to all of the semi daily posting gfd-anons.
Anonymous 44013
>>43998They're either snuggling with a subby boi or on the hunt for a subby boi out there.
Anonymous 46654
>>46080
Because /r9k/ is the worst place to look for any type of man.
Anonymous 48482
>>30509Anyone know where to find my ideal sub bf? The /r/gentlefemdompersonals subreddit has been hijacked by an unstable maniac for months and it's filled with gross things and people now.
Anonymous 48491
>>48482What country are you from? There are lot of country-oriented forums and websites for that.
I found my sub on a brazilian one called senhorverdugo.
Anonymous 48496
I'm so lonely I could cry
Anonymous 48500
>>48496Go talk to a small, effeminate boy.
Anonymous 48504
>>48503
Can you obey a rule just this once? Don't post here.
Anonymous 48523
>>48491I live in the US, California. Haven’t been able to find anything like that.
Anonymous 48524
>>48523You should try Fetlife and Collarme then.
Also, despite what people here claims, 4chan and 7chan tend to be quite good for that as well.
Anonymous 48533
>>48524Yoooooo I had no idea about collarme, thank you.
Anonymous 48542
>>48533You are welcome. Now go find that sweet boybitch.
Anonymous 48579
>>30652another way to think about it, is that men who are into gfd actually just want a mother who is sometimes strict (but never go into ballbuster territory)
Anonymous 48586
Spoiler
I have noticed a distinct lack of pretty irl subby bois
Anonymous 48597
>>48580
You're worth it, anon. Don't lie to yourself. I believe in you.
Anonymous 48603
>>48602
Seems more like love than fetishism, to me.
Anonymous 48605
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>>48602
> It just grosses me out tbh
Nooooo one asked for your opinion or to mansplain what gfd is to us, stay banned.
Anonymous 48607
>>48606
It's called Moid's law.
Also why would their post be deleted by the mods if they weren't moid posting? I read the XP error post and it seemed like moid posting.
Anonymous 48660
>>48602
>you want a boy to submit themselves to you
Yes, what is wrong with this? I don't want a man who submits to everyone, but to me alone. I want him to be vulnerable with me, and yes, to also serve me and follow my lead. It has nothing to do with him being inferior though. At least the way I see it being more like how a knight would serve his queen. On the flipside, I feel like the connotation of GFD misses the point most of the time. Usually the woman is maternally submissive, ie. the woman doing everything for the guy, coddling and serving him, and being his bangmaid just like in a normal "vanilla" relationship. Except the only difference being that the man is even more passive, juvenile, and lazy. Boring and disgusting. There is nothing wrong with being gentle, sensual, or what have you, but GFD just seems like a euphemism for mommy shit.
Anonymous 49151
>>30548No, you can see a lash under the cock, so in the gif the blood pressure is way higher than a normal situation
Anonymous 49154
>>30544His dick looks like it is in pain
And cute
Anonymous 49155
Threads like this and the abortion one make me think this place is filled with men pretending to be women, it's so full of typically male fetishes and opinions other female spaces are not.
Anonymous 49170
>>49155Have you considered that we don't voice our opinion in other female spaces out of peer pressure and fear of being ostracized by normie females?
Also, let me rephrase you:
>Threads like this and the abortion one make me think this place is filled with elderly men pretending to be young males, it's so full of weird fetishes and hard right opinions other young male spaces like college and kotaku forums are not. Anonymous 49172
>>49170/r9k/ and /pol/ are full of young males and they have the exact same fetishes and opinions posted here.
Anonymous 49173
>>49155>Typical male fetishesExplain
Anonymous 49174
>>49173femdom, gentle femdon, "gib me mommy gf ;_____;"
Anonymous 49176
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>>49174Have the captives taken over the mine?
Anonymous 49193
>>49155The abortion thread is one thing and this thread is a completely different thing.
Tumblr had a small but substantial femdom community, in addition to all of its larger and more typical kinks and fetishes.
When Tumblr banned porn, all of the more typical interests went to the more typical places. Dd/lg went to Facebook. The less typical material such as femdom doesn't have that option, since it's offensive to the wishes of typical consumers and contrary to the intents of their typical erotica communities. Anonymous communities with image hosting capability are able to pick up what's left after Tumblr imploded, so some Tumblr fetish residue is only to be expected. Tumblr officially claims to have more than four hundred million users, there were easily a few hundred thousand women who had an interest in femdom there, and it would be surprising if there weren't at least half a dozen who were aware of LCF. Material like
>>30544 etc. aren't going to be good sharing material for imageboards with primarily male audiences.
Anonymous 49209
>>49174God I fucking hate mommy shit.
>wah do everything for me, jerk me off for hours, and provide me with endless orgasms like most submissive women already do. but i'll call you mommy so it makes it femdom somehow! And fuck all the low self-esteem pickme women who encourage this disgusting garbage too.
Anonymous 49418
>>49209For future reference, what sort of filthy deeds would you have your man perform in order to grant you pleasure, in the context of you being the dominant member of the relationship?
Anonymous 49641
>>49635
How long do you usually hold a relationship for?
Anonymous 49649
>>49418He must become skilled at oral and be able to provide it on demand. I would also like to build up his pain tolerance so I can beat him whenever I need a release. That one wouldn't be as often, though.
>>49641Don't respond to scrotes.
Anonymous 49749
>>49649>oral and beatingsIs that the worst of it?
Anonymous 49838
being into fembom as a female is rough because most femdom porn is made for men. e.g. the man is ugly and you can clearly tell that the (hot) woman is not enjoying whatever she's doing. She rarely gets pleasured(be it physically or mentally), which in my mind is a big part of femdom.
Even in femdom men place themselves and their kinks first.
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>>49838deleted the file because I forgot I was in gfd
Anonymous 49840
>>49749Pretty much. I like pegging too but it would be difficult to do every day with prep and such. I don't have super grandiose or crazy fantasies, I just like to fantasize about my future cute husband slave.
>>49838I agree, most femdom porn is awful. It always plays out like a pro-dominatrix scene more than anything, which is why I hate it. The women is just a service top not a dom. Not to mention the men are always unattractive and I greatly dislike hearing the women dirty talking/fake moaning loudly, too. I know this is a common thing but I end up looking at gay porn a lot because it seems a lot more natural, like they both want it instead of one party clearly only there for the paycheck.
Speaking of which not really femdom, but I wish there was more POV cunnilingus stuff with men. I've only found lesbian stuff unfortunately.
Anonymous 49848
>>49840Here u go anon
https://www.reddit.com/r/Femdompornforwomen/It has a small but passionate community. It’s also not really gfd, but there’s some gfd worthy stuff in there.
Anonymous 49850
>>49838Watch amateur stuff instead.
Anonymous 49909
>>48660What would you call this kind of dynamic? This seems like the ideal although I've never experimented with femdom.
Anonymous 49931
>>49848Thanks. I've seen this before and it's okay. I like that it mostly focuses on men since I'm tired of women always being the main visual focus.
>>49909I don't think there's a good name for it honestly. But I think it's how the standard for femdom should be, instead of some lazy guy who "submits" to any woman who gives him attention.
Anonymous 49932
>>49931I can see that, but I guess this wouldn't just be a gfd thing right? This could just be a normal femdom thing, or? You think it crosses into the other or is just for one?
Anonymous 49933
>>49932I would just call it regular femdom since it's more about control and service more than gfd. Keep in mind regular femdom doesn't have to be about pain or more hardcore acts like pegging or chastity, but can also be more about the control aspect.
Anonymous 49934
>>49932I think it's normal for any relationship dynamic to want a partner who's not promiscuous.
Anonymous 50004
>>50001It always annoys me that those sorts of communities always have to be inclusive of ftm, mtf, and lesbians. We already see traps and women sexualized everywhere else. Can't have anything to appeal too much to straight women, that would be evil
Anonymous 50014
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>>50004Biological men cannot be sexually desired anon, remember? Women totally just like men because of money or status or something like that and femdom porn is just a way for (((those people))) to control men.
Anonymous 56353
>>38862Too busy working on school and/or athletics and extracurriculars
Anonymous 56356
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>>56353Honestly this is the best reason. Doesn’t imply weird trauma that would make him less likely to perform or make it feel like I’m molesting him. Even though I’ve never been with a guy less experienced than me, I’d totally go for the Chad virgin who too busy being successful to have fucked a random girl as a teen trying to lose his virginity.
Anonymous 56389
>>50014>Alpha’s PathIsn’t the real alpha move to accept your fetish and find a partner who shares it, rather than trying to psychological recondition your mind? Seems bretty cuck to me fam tbqhidk
Anonymous 56403
>>50004Your main issue is that sexually deviant people are in for a penny, in for a pound. It's kind of silly to exclude trannies and traps and act like you have any moral superiority when you get off flogging or being flogged by someone. Exclusivity is based on standards enforced by groups, the main one that BDSM type scenes try to enforce is just screening for actual psychopaths and not sadists.
Anonymous 56423
>>56403English isn't my first language as well anon but I don't think you're using that phrase right.
>It's kind of silly to exclude trannies and traps Not when it's based on sexuality or seeking out content for certain demographics. But the other anon does come off as a preachy, she does still have a point.
Anonymous 56430
>>56356>too busy being successfulhe….
Anonymous 56491
>>56403I think you're mostly right, but gfd is just vanilla enough for many people in the community to feel like they're morally superior to the rest of BDSM, specifically the parts they personally see as gross. And I guess
>>50004 anon is probably a manifestation of that lol.
Anonymous 56950
What's people's opinions on the services available for finding a sub? From what I've seen on the sight it doesn't look like most options are great so I wonder if it would be worth creating our own
Anonymous 56976
>>56950it might be worth it, but the sheer number of scammers and horny men are extremely costly to regulate. The best ways I've heard from other people are posting a personals on your local subreddit (like the subreddit of your city or something), meeting them through some of the discords (which can be a pain because a lot of them are horny cesspits and usually have using the server for dating as against the rules) through friends, or just a normie dating app with a profile that styles itself seeking a very specific type of guy. Online dating and online kink always seems to attract the worst types of people though, it would be the most ideal to have specific gfd meetups or munches, but I'm unsure that's possible given our small numbers. Maybe some forum or app that organizes people into local regions so they can sort of build a community and eventually have those meetups? That's what usually makes gfd discords so appealing, but everyone is always all over place, and the best communities are all private.
Anonymous 57127
>>56976If CC did anything it would have to be off site, I do think that considering the high incidence of women here that are into femdom as well as general femcels who struggle to find a partner regardless of kink that people here would appreciate a dating site specifically targeted at them
Anonymous 57696
>>56950>>56976I actually have been interested in creating a dating app, I would probably have too many restrictions on it that would prevent it from becoming popular. Like requiring a pretty rigorous verification process to sign up, strict user expectations, and adherence to a code of conduct. I think it would make for a better dating environment and much slower but more pleasant experience.
Also kink sites really do have the worst degenerates, that's why every one recommends munches where people do actually organize and have local meet ups which is suppose to be a much more enjoyable social gathering. I've never been and am terrified of the people that would attend, especially considering the people who are online.
Anonymous 57981
>>33270Mordred is so pretty, what a king. I wish I was that pretty and powerful ;o;
Anonymous 60642
A movement should be started to encourage subby boys to wear chokers. That way they can be identified in the wild.
Anonymous 64775
Where’s the femdom thread though
Do any of u guys enjoy cute male asmr audios.
There aren’t a lot of nice quality ones in English plus most of the English ones are cringe but here!
Anonymous 64776
>>49209I like doing that to hear a guy moan
and cum uncontrollably lol and so I can go at my own pace instead of him tending for himself, don’t so many dom men do that as well? Why are the rules so rigid for dom women and GFD women?
Also I don’t think caring for your partners sexual needs in submissive. A lot of men who aren’t submissive or dominant in vanilla relationships do that already. Atleast in my head kek
