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If he's not a virgin, that's a red flag

>>309373
If he watches porn
>b-but all men watch porn
Then I'd rather stay single for life

If he's not 2D

I have a shit ton but one that comes to mind is emo/goth men. I don't dislike the style or culture at all, quite the opposite, but I think that when a guy tries to appeal to darker and alternative culture and presents himself in that way it's usually a huge indicator of him being a manipulator and a whore.

>>309438
I definitely agree that guys that go for an alt dark look tend to be rather manipulative/obsessive/sadistic and whatever else you can even think of that´s bad,,but its honestly the ones that feminise themselves/play the innocent one that are bigger whores and even more disgusting manipulators. That has to by my biggest ick to be honest…

>>309438
i dont get where you get these ideas. subculture is dying out, it was way more popular in the past, and usually it was for social outcasts and people who were just disappointed in society.
i can see how people who play around with the aesthetics of a subculture without any idea of what the culture was about are shallow idiots, but i cant see how they would be whores and manipulators

goth is pretty much the only subculture that has more female than male members. with stuff like punk or especially metal, its the other way around. especially extreme metal is like 90% moids, its hard to be a slut there if you arent gay by any chance

>>309443
>i cant see how they would be whores and manipulators
>goth is pretty much the only subculture that has more female than male members
hmmmmmmm

>>309445
still, how would these people be more of a manipulator than everyone else?

goth subculture is pretty much the most dead of all the classical ones. it has come down to pretty much just a darker e-girl aesthetic, it completely forgot its musical roots and the few good bits of music become tiktok songs immediatly

being named Jonathan, unironically

>>309438
>I think that when a guy tries to appeal to darker and alternative culture and presents himself in that way it's usually a huge indicator of him being a manipulator and a whore.

Examples of this?

>>309376
fpbp

>>309373
White racist guys who fetishise women of colour are a massive red flag

>>309456
There are less goth guys than girls because dressing goth kind of crosses in to gay territory because you have the hair and the nails and make up like eyeliner. Most guys who prefer to look punk and get a vest or something than look like an "emo fag". But everyone thinks emo girls are hot so they keep the fashion alive. And emo is a rip off of punk in a lot of ways, but i would consider more kiddy because they are screamo bands and scene kid rap like 100gecs. Goth is more associated with industrial clubs and heavy bands. But anyway ya…guys dont dress emo or goth a lot because it's associated with being gay, they'd rather dress punk instead

>>309440
Yeah for sure, usually when men put an effort in making themselves appeal to women they end up being huge pieces of garbage

>>309443
>i dont get where you get these ideas
By actually meeting these men lol.
>i cant see how they would be whores and manipulators
>goth is pretty much the only subculture that has more female than male members
Well yeah exactly that, cause they put on some costume that they know will get them some pussy.

>>309446
>still, how would these people be more of a manipulator than everyone else?
I mean idk about comparing to everyone else but appealing to an aesthetic to be attractive to women is a bit manipulative in a way.

>>309456
>Examples of this?
Tbf I can't really come up with one specific example of one goth guy, but don't you _know_ a bunch of manipulative goth guys in your life? cause I know I do. Obv not all of them right? But a good bunch get a big ego over appealing to more femenine aesthetics and pulling all the women like >>309440 said. If you want an example you can actually check just go see goth boys thirst traps on TikTok, there's SO many of them and they just know a bunch of chicks are gonna go crazy over them for being "sensitive" and not like the other guys. Unironically most male pick-mes are goths or brlong to some other female-dominated subculture