neets, how do you survive? Anonymous 30944
real neets, what do you live off of? i am genuinely curious about your lives and how you make it without income/school funding, etc. i am about to finish grad school and am too lazy/scared/disorganized to strategize jobs rights now, so i'm fantasizing about not doing anything…
do you mind sharing a peek into your lives?
I'm a SAHM and live off my husband's income.
being a SAHM doesn't make you a NEET. unless your kid is school aged or some shit.
I'm not a NEET but most leech off their parents.
I'm sort of jealous of this, but at the same time if I knew I could have that kind of support I would probably never try to reach any goals for myself?
>get on pc
>watch anime, write fics, rp, talk to online friends
>maybe clean the house, cook for my family, stuff like that
been living like that ever since i graduated high school almost ten years ago. my parents have accepted this/they don't seem to mind at all..? since someone is watching the house, taking care of the pets, etc. i do chores and cook meals for them. when my sister was still in school i helped her with homework, studying, preparing for tests. i only left the house like twice during the past five years, once because i had to see a dentist, the second time because of a fire in the neighbor's house. if i need money, i take fic commissions. a few years ago i was a bnf in a niche fandom that barely had any english language content so i translated some japanese stuff for the fandom and people tipped me via ko-fi for that. i don't need much in life though, so it's fine. my parents pay for food and housing, i rarely need new clothes/shoes and i don't need stuff for school either. if i want merch or books, i just have to find a way to gain money so i can buy it.
That sounds dangerous and emotionally draining.
welcome to cc!
what do you cry about? just general sad feelings?
>taking advantage of lonely mentally ill young men
and you wonder why incels are the water they are
ok whatever you say <3Katie<3
i am 99% sure this user is a man from all their posts I've seen. anyone else?
yeah he is a guy I have seen post like his on /r9k/
what is wrong with hurting incels.
tehy are not mentally ill.
they are the enemy and you can destroy them>>30972
why are they the enemy? they just kind of exist?
women who use the word "thot" are race-traitors
>>30993>implying women have to support everything other women do
i don't respect men or women that have sex outside of monogamous relationships.
This is a interesting thread. Lots of new insights will be generated here with positive effects for improving one's finances and time management as a whole whilst using the least amount of effort and will-power. Please continue the discussion
you say that like it's a bad thing
Hikky NEET here.
>what do you live off of?
NEETbux for the past 8 years because mentally ill.
>do you mind sharing a peek into your lives?
I didn't spend too much money on food, clothing or things like that. The money I managed to save went to meds and computer parts. On better days I played vidja and watched stuff online. On bad days I felt very anxious and alone. For years I tried all sorts of antidepressants, mood stabilizers and calming pills but nothing would help. I would go for days without sleeping. Nothing felt real anymore and my life turned into a blur. I tried to cope with the bad emotions by mixing pills and alcohol.
I started new therapy and it helped a lot. I shower almost daily now and I can go outside during the day. I still can't keep eye contact or make friends but that's alright.
>how do you survive?
Don't you love how stupid people never seem aware that they are stupid at all?
What about about black people using word "nigger"?
I highly doubt vox populi would call them race-traitors.>>30959> I am sick of the incels and woman hate on R9K and want to get to know this boards culture.
How did you bear it for at least 3 years in there? Or are you a newfeg who thought there is more than meets the eye to that board?>>30947
Are you implying SAHM is some kind of job?
Being a SAHM is a full-time endeavor even if it isn't paid employment. There are people you can pay to do the same role, and those are jobs. It's a job-equivalent.
Ofc being a SAHM of young infants/children and maintaining the home is a job. Its a valuable contribution to society.
Who are you calling stupid here? Its not very clear.
I receive disability payments for an illness that makes me more or less house-bound. Kind of embarrassing to admit, but I'm always working towards being able to rejoin society. I've been alone a lot in my life so I'm not particularly lonely, besides I have the internet to chat to people with.
I work out in my flat to stay fit, have food delivered to me when I can't go out myself. Every few weeks I go to a hobby group which is full of sweet older people so it's easy to get along with them and share things I've been working on.
I'm thinking of selling my crafts online to see if I can make a living off of that. Worth a shot at least.
Oh, and I suppose I spend a huge chunk of time reading. Fiction, textbooks, sex manuals, you name it. I do live mostly inside my own head so I love anything that fuels my imagination!
I would drop my discord handle but I'm wary of dumb trolls who like to bully us female neets. Hmm hmm, can't those people get real hobbies? Really.
>>31066>There are people you can pay to do the same role, and those are jobs.
I can understand this. But since there is no official employer and no official job duties/qualifications/payment AND I would really enjoy this, I never perceived it as something disqualifying the NEET title.>>31090
Isn't it the other way? Bored neets bullying wagecucks.>>31064
Yeah. Every time I see ad-hominem insults in an opinion exchanges.
>>31093>bored neets bullying wagecucks
You've been looking at too many 4chan jaypegs.
Oh, I see what you're saying. Wagefriends don't deserve hatred they receive from bitter neetos. I'm not really into any communities for neets/shutins for that reason, like the godawful /soc/ discord I visited once. I swear many people larp as being more, idk, of a basement dweller than they actually are for clout. It's all a mystery to me, friend. Peace in relative solitude for me!
Wait. People actually believe in that stuff? It's a joke, like "mom found the poop sock".
>>31093>no official job duties/qualifications/payment AND I would really enjoy this, I never perceived it as something disqualifying the NEET title
NEET usually goes along with not having a socially productive role (examples being employment, education, training), and being a SAHM is considered socially productive.
i'm glad you're doing better these days. how did hikky-neet start for you? like did you go into it knowing this would be your life?
I became unable to go to school and it was a steady downhill from there.
I was hopeful that my mental health would improve and I could continue my studies but that never happened. Now I can see that the signs of illness were always there but they weren't noticed until years later. When the teachers told me to take some time off I didn't know it would end up like this. It wasn't just a burnout.
>Nothing felt real anymore and my life turned into a blur.
I threw away about 3.5 years by being a hikki neet up until 2018 and that was one hell of a blur. It felt like a year and a half since I never did anything worth remembering, and I would quote it as 2.5 years at most to the hikki internet friends I had at the time, because I legit lost track of an entire year.
The "relief" of not taking part in real life and not going outside is incredibly short term. Afterwards you only get more anxious, stressed, depressed, etc, and it snowballs. I wouldn't wish a hikki, neet life on anybody.
It really doesn't take much to come out of the worst parts of it - work a basic job that gives you enough hours that you start having a real schedule and the next thing you know you might not be thinking of killing yourself all the time - but it's so damn hard to start work or education from a dead stop as a hikki, you really are your own worst enemy.
sorry 4 blog
I completely agree with you anon, it felt the same for me.
Do you think that the "blur" effect can also come from sleeping to much? Like, not only are you (usually) not advancing in any way (money, education, skills) as a neet, but also depressed people or those with a wrecked circadian rhythm can sleep anywhere from 10-12 hours a night, so your days really are shorter (14-12 hours instead of 16) in that case. It's why I think 3 years can feel like 2 and a half or less, because you literally only were awake for that long.
Yeah that's a good point, you can definitely sleep your life away.. 12-16 hours was pretty usual for me and that's actually still the case (but having a schedule I need to follow helps me put a stop to that almost every day). I may not be able to fix my depression easily but I should at least fix my circadian rhythm. I'm a bit of a hypocrite, I used to tell people how important circadian rhythm is to try and help them, but I'm really bad at sending myself to bed. I find it funny that it's a bit dark under my eyes permanently, because I definitely get enough sleep. I actually think it's kind of cute though.
Another thing to consider is that neets are also prone to having messed up sleep schedules where they are going to be awake during less useful hours. For me personally, it's almost guaranteed that at really late hours I'm just staring at my PC. tbh I'd very likely be doing that regardless of the hour, but guaranteed is worse than very likely. This was really noticeable when I had my sleep schedule completely inverted so that I'd fall asleep at 7 or 8 AM - nearly every bit of time I was awake was used for staring at my PC (so spamming F5 and endlessly chatting with people who didn't care about me), I never got anything done, I never got inspired to go out because I couldn't at those hours, and my selfcare got a bit worse.
In my early twenties. Been one for two years now. Not a hikki since going out for meals and errands are doable. My parents died so I live off insurance money. I have kept sporadic contact with a handful of IRL friends and maintain a strong relationship with my S.O. who's been supportive since I dropped out of college. The reason for that's a mix of mental health stuff and issues that followed my mother's death.
The neuroplasticity in my brain's eroded to the point that reading or learning things as quickly as before seems impossible, almost blurred. I want to help myself but fall back into the same patterns: vidya, browsing the internet for things I forget about the next day, other escapist pastimes…I've lost passion for most old hobbies though. Finding a job or at least attending a useful certificate should be my next step, but it's so much easier to quit while I'm ahead instead of failing over and over again. Not that I'm anything more than a failure now. >>31346
sums it up. It's a rather lonely feeling to realize that none of my friends don't know how to help, and the distance between my former peers and myself has gorged into a grand canyon in where I'm falling off the cliff.
Willpower comes from achieving small tasks, so I'm trying to build myself up through that. I'll try to read one book this month. Clean the house. Maybe cook something less shitty than cup noodles. Dunno. I just want to be better than this.
no worry for the blog, this stuff is really interesting to me. i feel like i could so easily fall into this life. my weekends and evenings blur into nothing, non-stop internet.
one time i calculated the percentage of the past year i'd spent online and made me wanna throw up.
Also a hikki NEET and I agree with everything you wrote, but it really is a vicious cycle. Every time I think about or start planning going back into the outside world (making friends, meeting people etc) I remember how scary it is and how comfortable being alone, inside, is.
My mental health has gone down the toilet since I started NEET life. I've always suffered from a personality disorder and depression, but it consumes my life now. I've also slipped into only sleeping in the morning/early afternoon, and I spend all night just on my pc, browsing boards or playing vidya.
It really does spiral out of control until you feel like a prisoner in your own life lul.
Please break out of the prison you've made for yourself. You don't have to go into nightclubs to be free. Just go to a library, and from there to a restaurant, mall, etc. I've done it before and it's great. The best way I found to get out of the house is having a job, like a real obligate one.
I'm in the same boat as >>31455
and I have muh chronic illness and can't hold down a job, so I have no clue how to meet people and be active. What do I do? I've been taking walks and hanging out at popular spots but it just feels like I'm waiting to see anyone I could approach and that just makes me feel pathetic. And if I ever get approached, they're always, always terribly creepy because I give out maximum outcast vibes
An outcast is what you are, anon. Don't try to be someone you aren't. Embrace the creep. They're approaching you because they feel you could relate to them. They don't want to be lonely any more than you do. Obviously they won't have any social skills, but you two can do great to learn from each other on socialising. Just keep butting heads with conversations with these creatures. Try your best to be friendly and outgoing.
I don't mean people who are just weird, I mean absolute psychos who reek of alcohol and tell me about their violent fantasies within 5 minutes of meeting.
All of them? I understand you might have a rather polarised sense of morality. I wouldn't want someone telling me they want to carve me up, either, but it can't absolutely be nothing but this being spoken to you. Not one innocent person?
I'm working on it, anon. I've been in therapy for quite a while and I got prescribed antidepressants at the start of this month. I also just landed a work-from-home job in the field I want to go into to ease myself in slowly.
I agree with what the anon upthread said - I wouldn't wish this life upon anyone. When you're busy and life is stressful, it might seem like the ideal, but in reality its dark and bleak.
Sorry for kind of OT/blog post.
Your post is welcome anon. Working at home isn't exactly what I implied, but it's still good progress. Don't give up hope yet.
Thank you anon. And yeah I know, I was slightly disappointed in myself for only working from home, but I'm gonna look at volunteer work to get me out of the house too. As you said, progress is progress!