/b/ - Random

Yes I made this thread based off of the one on Lolcow, I admit it

I for one find the "radfem" designation to be a hilarious one. Nicely crafted rethorically, by itself it makes the group seem as if they were not only a minority but also utterly fringe. The literal inversion of the truth of the matter.

TLDR fuck you

Let’s keep this on lolcow

I don't consider myself a radfem, I hate radfems, most of them are homophobic toward lesbians and shame women for having any sexual feelings they deem as "appealing to the male gaze". its stupid.

that being said, the fact you used a tranny meme about TERFs in particular makes me think you are a pathetic ass tranny lover, making you also homophobic.

>>311267
It's one of the first results if you search up anti radfem memes, sorry if it was made by trans for trans but I didn't feel like using random tweets as the header

>>311258
>moid infested shithole
Moids are way worse on this site than Lolcow let's be honest. Sorry some of us don't agree with one type of feminism but it's not like this is an anti feminist thread, there's a lot about radfems and how they harm women and feminism just the same as libfems and there are biological women who have had not great experiences with them. You have multiple threads on this site for radfem shit but lord forbid other women be critical

im tired of hearing about trannies personally. i dont care.

>>311272
I hope a tranny enters into your life and makes you care.

>>311273
why are you so upset

>>311274
Why did you take that as negative?

>>311275
because it sounds like you are dissatisfied with me being apathetic towards trannies and want me to be forced to care
not like I didn't have trannies among people I knew either. it's just that I find it pretty funny you want a tranny defense thread on a site not dedicated to them.

>>311277
k

This is a woman-only website that excludes both biological and trans men. I'm not particularly concerned that much with them, other than knowing that you can't switch genders, but not sure why I should be upset over other users ranting about them given the nature of this place

>>311267
>radfems are homophobic towards lesbians
??????? most of them are lesbians themselves and are only shitty to fake bi women? and the whole reason they're against troons is because of them being rapey males and the conversion therapy rhetoric bs that TRAs spew. are you thinking of GCs or something?

I think radfems need to call out gay moids more, gay moids are such misogynists it's not even funny. I'm not saying that because "they don't fuck me" because most are unattractive anyhow and I'm not even that into men but I feel like when they claim to call out homophobia they tend to wk gay guys too much when they're just as much of a problem as the misogynistic trans and TRAs

If ppl stop giving a shit about trannies maybe it will be less cool and controversial to troon out and their numbers will dwindle

im sick of the regular bitching about ragebait tier insanity troons, online and offline. As for the rest, theyre people, people can suck, move on.

>>311302
Gays are an official victim group. If you say one word against them, no matter what they do, you are a fascist and probably a racist as well. Good luck having no friends, I am calling your boss.

This rigid oppressor/oppressed shit was a lie from the start. A lie used so some machiavelic people could use the emotions of others to gain power.

>>311288
radfems call themselves lesbians but then they talk about the "male gaze" nonstop, shaming lesbians for liking BDSM and anything else. Their whole life revolves around how men may or may not feel which is sus. I dont care about men, so why would I, a lesbian, dress in a way to make myself "unappealing to men" when I dont care about how men feel.
>>311302
TRVKE. People dont realize how many gay male spaces allows troons but still excludes pooners. How the fuck are you gonna support a group of people that takes away womens spaces, especially lesbians, and then not even play by their own logic by excluding trans men? Sooo trans women are women, yet theyre also not women because you allow them to exist in gay male spaces. Which is it?
I know theyre men who like men therefore they arent thinking of women, yet that doesnt matter.
Compare it to race. Segregation comes back in full effect. Just because Im white doesnt mean Im gonna turn a blind eye to it? And Im not saying that to virtue signal, Im saying that because its the normal response any functional human being would make.
>If ppl stop giving a shit about trannies maybe it will be less cool and controversial to troon out and their numbers will dwindle
What a stupid ass thing to say. Nobody cared about trannies until they injected themselves in every possible space imaginable and ruined basically everything at this point. You do realize people are going to jail for misgendering, right? You do realize women are being raped as I type this within various prisons, right? It was only recently, this year, where they are finally rolling back trannies in womens sports. For years you would be deplatformed if you spoken up against trannies.
Not to mention trannies, oh I dont fucking know, are advocating and contributing to children being mutilated and groomed through HRT with most trans spaces being hypersexual. Need I remind you I Am Jazz.

Their numbers increased after covid forced people to be terminally online along with mainstream media injecting nothing but propaganda into them. It would not have increased at all if it wasnt socially beneficial to be trans considering they had so much political power, and they still have so much political power. It is only recently, between this year and the later half of 2024, where things are slowly starting to go back to normal. And I mean slowly.
"people suck, move on" uhh yeah no, not when I am actively being oppressed by a group of people who all share the same agenda. Please provide me a link of all the female-only homosexual spaces I can freely talk about my sexuality in without trannies both online and offline. Oh right… We have none lol.

>>311308
I only ever see radfems shame BDSM when it's just garden variety woman-hating scrotes degrading and beating up women and avoiding critique because le kinkshaming

>>311313
Honestly radfems are ok with women on women violence a lot of the time and it's gross. I've seen a good amount also cheer on the rape of underaged boys

>>311314
Genuine question, and I'm not trying to be like "omg no, radfems are all perfect, this never happens" but where are you guys even finding these "radfems"? I've been on both radblr and radtwt for many years and have never seen this, on the contrary, they're all very vocal about all kinds of BDSM/kinks/cnc shit, very quick to call out misogynistic gay men, and fighting lesbophobia is like one of their main missions, like tranny shit isn't even the main thing they focus on, so I see comments like this and it's honestly very confusing. Or is this a case of labeling any misandric/transphobic woman a radfem even if they aren't feminists?? Most eyeroll inducing drama I've seen was some years ago on radblr that a small group of them were lowkey harassing male-partnered radfems and there was a bit of infighting but that's it. So yeah, like am I missing something or??

>>311321
>Hurrdduurr trannies only exist online hurrrdurr they cause no issues hurr
You sound more terminally online than I do, lmao.
Must be nice living in an area where they don't exist so you never have to see them or interact with them, especially in communities.

Hows that dick taste btw?

>>311330
you sound upset

I'm "radfem" but I have something to clarify. For the most part, most self-identified radfems are just seething insane people who let moids live rent free in 100% of their brain. I would go as far as to say that trans exclusion is antithetical to radfem, if not just an irrelevant aberration. The misuse of the radfem label has become self-perpetuating, with most "radfems" just being people seething about trannies or something and with "normies" reinforcing the definition.

Looks like this thread sees it the same way too.

>>311332
>trans exclusion is antithetical to radfem
Feminism is for women, it's the liberation of women from the patriarchy, so if a subset of males wants to butt in our spaces, throw a tantrum whenever we use female exclusive words or talk about periods of uterine cancer, and try to rape lesbians then yeah of course we'll speak up about them. They're men, and no man is included in feminism regardless of how they identify.
It's the same reason transmen aren't excluded, because no matter how much they change their bodies they'll still always be female and affected by things like lack of research on female bodies when it comes to medical issues.
So it's not because they're trans and "tranny bad, men in dress yucky" it's because they're males who actively affect women, like any other male. It's that simple.

>>311336
>transmen aren't excluded
I see lots of radfems shittalking them too though and saying "they're traitors trying to join the patriarchy, we don't claim them"

>>311336
>Feminism is for women, it's the liberation of women from the patriarchy, blah blah blah
That's just normal feminism. What about it do you think makes you "radical"?
Just so you know, "having an opinion some people disagree with" doesn't make you a radical.

>>311356
I wear a baseball hat backwards and carry around a skateboard and pop ollies, I'm totes radical, yo

>>311336
I don't think they're women and they shouldn't be in womens spaces or harassing lesbians, but I also don't think letting men get castrated is a bad thing either. However, i am uncomfortable with the amount of women who think taking testosterone is a sound way of escaping their traumas.

>>311346
Do you think only men can disagree with radical feminism?

>>311356
… All this time you thought the "radical" in radical feminism meant extreme? Oh my god lmao. It means "root", it's feminism that wants to tackle the very root of the patriarchy and dismantle it right from there. It's not about accomodating into it or making our oppression more bearable like libfems try to do (like the typical "uhh I do X degrading and painful thing because I like it!!"), it's recognizing the problem and aiming to change or dismantle it from its very source. Things like pornography, prostitution, surrogacy, makeup, etc. God, you're so embarrassing, talking and complaining about things you don't even know the minimum about.

>>311373
Why educate with hate? Why be so belittling?

>>311374
It's not hateful to point out someone being ignorant and basing their accusations on said ignorance. It's one thing to get a term wrong, we all do that, but creating an entirely incorrect view about something without taking the time to research first and then spreading said misinformation is just stupid, and makes you look like one too. Like hearing someone saying vegans love bbqs and instead of looking it up to see if it's true you just run with it like "lol why are you complaining about ppl who eat meat if you guys devour that shit?? vegans literally hate vegetables!" It IS embarrassing.

>>311383
I understand your frustration, I'm not going to police your language

>>311320
I've seen this stuff behind the scenes and in my own personal groups. A bit on tumblr too where a couple years back I saw quite a few claim to be pro-loli/shota despite radfems being "anti-porn" I guess anti porn until it's your own kink

you realise dudes (trannies) aren’t meant to post on here right

I aint no fuckin tranny

>>311407
>>311406
I ain’t afraid of no ghost!

>>311404
Do you just assume everyone who disagrees with you is a guy?

>>311373
>All this time you thought the "radical" in radical feminism meant extreme?
Not at all. My point is that fighting "the patriarchy" within such a limited, binary space is a waste of time. The core of the issue is that men and women have unavoidable inherent inequalities. This is the foundation for TERF ideas: trans women are not unequal from men in the same way that cis women are. Radical feminism (at least for me) is a transhumanist endeavor to abolish gender differences to overcome such conflicts.
Of course, this is also only a vague goal with many means of achieving it. Personally, I think all males should be killed and the world should be left to be inherited by asexually reproducing "women" (who are thus no longer women, for there are no men). This is why I personally see no issue with the transgender social "movement", both in its normal/historical way and in the "new" modern reincarnation. They are irrelevant, if not a minor convenience.
>>311366
I think a lot of people don't realize that the nature of their motivations and cause of "gender non-conformity/dysphoria" are entirely different for men and women. It's important to sometimes view FTM and MTF as completely separate phenomenon.

>>311373
>feminism that wants to tackle the very root of the patriarchy and dismantle it right from there
No offense but I'm yet to see a single radfem do that. The only thing I've seen radfems do is seethe about moids on Twitter/Tumblr. Sure they do feminist things but it's nothing different from what regular feminists do. The only way to dismantle it from the core is to run for office or something of the like but I'm yet to see anyone call Kamala a radfem