/b/ - Random

One of the more confusing aspects of transgenderism is the desire to embody the illusion of sexuality. Even with surgery, your genitalia will never function as naturally as those of a born male and thus any potential partner who is presumably attracted to your masculinity will always view you as less than.

Can love exist beyond platonic fondness or fleeting fascination in the absence of sexual desire?

>>326227
truth. This is why I can't get myself to date bisexual women. If I date a straight woman, I'll never be good enough for her and chances are she wouldn't be into me to begin with, and if I date a lesbian then I'm just a masculine woman to her. I guess that's my best option and it's what I go with, but I believe feminine women are hardly ever lesbians. They all have an inclination towards being with men, at least sexually, but can't get themselves to do it or accept it because of trauma in most cases.
I hardly can see myself as a man because it feels like I'm fooling myself. But I don't view myself as a woman either, so I just go with trying to forget about my genitals and present myself the way I feel most comfortable.

>>326228
idk define love

>>326230
It's a rhetorical question for you to consider. Do you truly believe someone can love you beyond a simple friendship or casual interest if they don't find you sexually attractive on account of you not being feminine or masculine enough?

>>326231
the only way this makes sense in regards to my situation is if you're saying that nobody will be sexually attracted to me as is, which I don't think is entirely true
It would be hard to find, and I might never be 100% sexually fulfilling in practice, but I don't think anybody can really be either.
Here it would come to love, you might not like all sexual aspects about your partner, but you like other things enough to make you stay. You might not like their entire personality, but other things make you stay.

>>326232
There's the rub. Always a gamble that there love is. Hope it works out for you

>>326233
you missed the part where I said it's the case for everybody anyways, which makes your fluff irrelevant

>>326234
Love is surely always a gamble but consider how one might dream about their future lovers. I'd imagine it a very rare dream indeed to envision a transgender lover for most people. I suppose it would all depend on how strong your need to be sexually desired is.

>>326235
not sure if this is how it works. Typically people meet someone, feel physical attraction and then romance potentially develops with time.
Lots of people would be physically attracted to me, and I'm no less than the average dude who will have a list of shortcomings. Nobody's perfect. You can always pinpoint things you could improve or change about your partner, the absence of male genitalia is no different. lol

>>326236
The question is to which aspect of you are they physically attracted? If it's your outwardly masculine appearance they'd likely instinctively desire masculine genitalia to match.

>>326237
I understand, but you could say that about virtually anyone. Someone attracted to a woman could desire her to have big tits to match, but not everyone's partner will have big tits. Someone attracted to a man could desire him to be physically capable to match but he might end up an amputee. That's where people weigh out their options and see if sticking around is worth it, and you could argue that these kinda relationships don't work out in the end which does hold some truth.
So two things here, if someone saw that the positives they get from me outweigh the negatives then things will work out. And if someone is specifically attracted to me because I bring masculinity without the male genitalia then it would also work out. There are many scenarios in which being what I am goes in my favor, and others that don't. But again that's also the case for everybody.

>>326238
Well I suppose it's great you have a positive outlook on things. I'm sure you'll find someone to love eventually if you continue to be as driven as you are. Again I do hope things work out for you in the end.

>>326239
lol that's funny. Making it sound like I'm desperately trying to convince myself there is someone for me out there.
Well no, I don't have a positive outlook on things. I just see things the way they are, I put my biases aside and try not to let my emotions interfere with judgement. Personally, I don't even believe in love and have my own view about relationships, but the outside world will still go the way it does and that's what I will see and acknowledge.
I'm only involved in things for the sake of the moment anyway.

>>326240
What is your name?