Moid secrets. Anonymous 68756
We all know how primitive they are, but even they have their gender specific secrets.
Maybe you know some myths about men that turned out to be true? Share them here.
When I was in hs moids in my class would nickname girls based on the shape of their ass - “spade”, “axe”, “amazon”, “cave”etc.
I think I was the only one who knew and heard them speak about it, but decided not tell the girls for obvious reasons.
They had many secret words for sexual references and they would get off by speaking to stacies in their specific slang.
They also invented certain “dare” games where winners order losers to do certain sexual things to girls like grope them to prove that they are man enough.
Men itch their balls by rubbing the skin between their thumb and pointer finger.
I once saw a man share a girl's nudes with his friends in high school.
The madonna-whore thing is also true.
Actual conversation I've had:
>"anon….aren't there people to you who are only for sex and then others for dating?"
>No, I can find people attractive while not liking them but I'd never fuck them
Funnily enough this guy is effeminate and sensitive but he's still a man. He's slept with most of his female friends (I suspect) and claims "they wouldn't date me after…" but he lies a lot so I suspect it's the opposite.
most dudes with self-proclaimed hero complexes don't actually want to help and just see the victim as easy to manipulate into sex. will often hurt others in means of fucking another victim or ditch current victim as soon as another one comes along. Every single hero complex man I met are cheaters
if you ever sent a man nudes chances are 90% of the time he has shown others
men will manipulate, blatantly lie, even over small stupid things like height
the more a man is to an internet dweller, the worse he is. Often sexist
all men are pedophiles except for 1% of them
men will go out of their way to see other women naked but act non chaulant to your own naked body even if you're objectively more attractive than the women he is rushing to see nude
>>68765>men will go out of their way to see other women naked but act non chaulant to your own naked body even if you're objectively more attractive than the women he is rushing to see nude
This sounds like a personal issue. It really seems like you're implying you had a bad experience and got rejected. I've only ever heard larger girls say this.
>>68773>This sounds like a personal issue. It really seems like you're implying you had a bad experience and got rejected. I've only ever heard larger girls say this
I'm not large, I see women all the time complaining about their nudes being left on R and at the same time fatties on onlyfans get tons of moid simps, I'm athletic and curvy and even in my pickme days I've had men I was seeing act disinterested then chase ugly fat women
My opinion one the whole nudes issue is…
Why the fuck would you send them in the first place??? I don't care how much I love the person, I will never send my nudes,
it's like leaving the house doors open - of course someone will break in one day.
men essentially emotionally blackmail women and girls into feeling like they won't imagine or think of the women and girls they're with and will think of other people or want other people unless they're given materials to jerk off with. it's pretty sad that women and girls are emotionally held captive in this way in hopes of maintaining an unfortunately (usually false) sense of security that they will be thought of in the same way that they're thinking of and wanting these guys. it's really sad to see how badly women just want an equal relationship and sacrifice so much for it, just to ultimately be harmed, hurt, or completely disregarded, by the object of their affection. sadism and apathy are key components of male socialization.
>>68765>if you ever sent a man nudes chances are 90% of the time he has shown others
Do you have personal experiences with this or know someone who had? Never understood sending nudes because there are too many risks involved.
saw this shit on vsco and it hit me pretty hard:
men give love to get sex, women give sex to get love.
>>68775>nudes left on R
I think there's another factor here you're not noticing. If they're getting ignored it's because the guy didn't care in the first place. Them being more attractive is irrelevant. If they'd rather simp over the fatty it's simply because they find the fatty more attractive.
Don't send men anything, they're untrustworthy swine that do not deserve to be rewarded for their shitty conduct. It's the same reason I won't ever have sex with a man. Once you realize that they see you as a conquest and a cocksleeve, it changes your whole perception of "love" and dating.
>>68787>see you as a conquest and a cocksleeve
Have you considered not exclusively dating guys that sleep around 24/7?
Maybe approaching guys that don't fit this description on your own accord?
They either sleep around or they wish they could. I don't date any men, for the exact reasons I enumerated in my prior post. I just wish I could have been born lesbian so that I wouldn't have to deal with their shit if I want to have a family. Every man either watches porn, is okay with casual misogyny, claims to support but doesn't understand feminism/is a poor ally (but usually all of these)… These are all very important factors that need to be considered when trying to find someone with whom you spend the rest of your life.
Although this is normal nowadays, it is rather reasonable to detest this thing. But things are changing as anti-masturbation and anti-pornography are becoming mainstream.>is okay with casual misogyny
I would like you to define this term. Particularly what separates casual misogyny from regular misogyny.>doesn't understand feminism/is a poor ally
Nearly every person and every major institution has different definitions of feminism and what it means or what you must do to be a true feminist.
So wouldn't it be more accurate to say that he does not understand what feminism means to you?
Though you could hardly fault him for that is that's the case, unless you actually take effort to explain it to him of course.
It's so clear you're a man lmfao you fucking faggot
>>68791>it's rather reasonable to detest pornography
Even trannies have stronger opinions than you, disgusting porn sick faggot.
Anon you have to understand it's not entirely the girl's fault in some situations. Take me for instance. My shitty ex boyfriend (when I was still with him) once screenshotted nude pics of me when we had a nude video chat on Discord. He did it without me realizing, even when I specifically made it clear from the very beginning of the video call that I wanted there to be no screenshots or pictures taken.
I was so horrified the next time we met in person when I crept into his phone and found those screenshotted pictures on there. I had to yell at him and make them delete them on the spot. If I hadn't of found those pictures on his phone, God knows I could have ended up as one of those poor girls who are victims of revenge nude sharing.
There are entire communities who live with the house door open, the idea is that mutual trust is enough to avoid theft.
I had my ex revenge share my nude photos and Skype screenshots because I was lured into believing that a lesbian relationship would be safe from this bullshit, but no, she had to be a total asshole when we broke up. Of course I was a young idiot exploited by an older woman, too. This doesn't make her less guilty.>>68794
Same here, anon. It's scary how we continue to stay with those who don't respect our boundaries. I am glad that you ditched him, and happy that you were able to find those screenshots.
THEY DON'T WIPE THEIR DICKS AFTER PEEING NOR WASH THEIR HANDS
You crept into his phone so you're both shitty people?
Fuck off. Women have right to be concerned with what men do seeing as they love to trespass against the women they claim to care for. She obviously had reason to suspect he should be monitored and she was right, and you're going to say that's the same thing as him violating her boundaries when she made it crystal clear that he had no consent to snapshot her during an intimate moment? Men don't deserve privacy considering how frequently "nice guys" who "love" us are shown to be treacherous.
At the point you can't trust what your boyfriend puts on his phone, it sounds like all trust has already broken down and isn't a healthy relationship anymore. Obviously he was in the wrong, I won't argue that, but something
must have compelled you to open his phone in the first place right? Or was he always nonchalant about you using it and was just stupid?
Fathers and grandfathers teach them emotional suppression from a very early age.
Their fathers also often mock them and tease them by giving them indirect answers to questions so that they develop ‘thicker skin’.
Large part of male interaction is taking a piss from each other. It’s a male shit-test for other men. If a man can talk back – he earns respect, if he can’t – loses respect.
Emotional, psychological problems are a taboo topic among men.
Majority of men are much more comfortable speaking about their emotions with women than men and use women as therapists – cry pillows.
Crying is taboo in any situation, they are not expected to cry during funerals.
Periodically visiting doctors or caring a lot about one’s health is considered ‘gay’.
The stare down competition* is real thing among men despite how autistic it looks and sounds. They can get beaten up in the street for looking at someone the wrong way or lose respect for not looking long enough into someone’s eyes
If a man smells like straight out of a swimming pool - he jerked off very recently.
If his room smells like sweat and piss, it’s probably not sweat and piss…
Huh. Maybe I'm just really out of the loop. Don't really talk about nudes or send them.
Most rabid /r9k/ posters that seethe about women being evil or whatever hate being men and hate men way more than they could ever hate women.They resent women for not being one themselves.
Hot take, but autogynephiles are scientifically linked to shame and narcissistic rage. An autogynephile in denial with other mental illnesses (like autism) will feel rejected by society and thus be filled with anger and hate, so it makes perfect sense.>>68802
A lot of them don't wipe their hands after shitting.
It's only when they are domesticated, leave him alone for a week and he'll revert to barbaric ways
Glib faux-charisma during conversation is a sure sign he's capable of rape or exploitation. It's just social camouflage for predators.
the anons in this chat need help
if you think this is how men behave i feel sorry for you
Domestication is permanent y'know, it's taming that's temporary.
ah yes men never share their gfs nudes anywhere at all.>>68786
not even that considering men have ugly fetishes and admit to cheating with less attractive women. Men are just shit and make no sense.
you also have to understand the vast majority of women aren't pinkpilled from day 1, they're brainwashed by manospeare types and taught they have to go out of their way to make men happy even if it makes them uncomfortable. Not everyone is as privileged as you>>68803
this excuse is always funny to me, considering the fact when men find out women were cheating no one cares to call out the extent he did in order to find out, including stalking, following with drones, hacking and so on. But I guess it only matters when it's mens privacy being violated and not womens
There always has to be that one "enlightened minority genius" that goes into a thread and says "you're all stupid, I feel sorry for you, you are all completely wrong."
Please fuck off and go back to whatever anti-feminist shithole you came out of.
i don't think i'm "enlightened" it's just painfully obvious the only men you're interacting with are either teenagers or menchildren. Grow up and get of the chan's for a spell.
lol you're in for a bad time going through life like this. will pray for oblivious ass.
how am i oblivious?
what exactly am i missing?
a balanced life perspective and an understanding that a man does not equal all men?
>>68765>if you ever sent a man nudes chances are 90% of the time he has shown others
Guy I lewded with online had my nudes and I had his, we eventually drifted apart and one day he left in anger over some thing I did a few weeks earlier that ended up doing more harm than good.
It's been a year now or something but I haven't seen anything of me pop up anywhere, so I think he's good on that department.
I still have his anyway, but who cares about some random dude's dick.
>the more a man is to an internet dweller, the worse he is. Often sexist
well, he was an internet dweller, not sure if he was ever sexist though
also his nudes were rather bland I guess
How is that itching? Wouldn't a regular scratch movement using nails and fingertips as seen in valueable source material for my social studies be more intuitive and effective?
Probably hard to scratch because it's all so loose down there
He was always nonchalant about me using his phone. Passcodes weren't something we kept as a secret from one another. I don't understand couples who would keep passcodes from one another purposely, I personally see that as some sort of red flag for something suspicious.>>68805
>>68931>I personally see that as some sort of red flag for something suspicious.
Yeah but if you have a healthy relationship you would trust each other too, right? No need to check.
It shocks me that this impossibly immature line of thought is still so common in 2020. You can't trust anyone, even if they give you no reason to feel suspicious. Trust needs to constantly be checked because people change their minds all of the time, they turn into different people, lose interest and attraction, take their partners for granted, grow complacent and entitled, and all of this leads to keeping secrets and hiding their upsetting behavior, particularly if they already have an established life they still reap some benefits from, or are just too cowardly or uninterested in necessary confrontation.
People who believe "you should always be able to trust your partner!" are complete clowns. You cannot trust anyone fully, least of all a class of people that are a literal safety hazard for women. A class of people who have been trained to jerk off to women being raped and abused and more often than not, want to play-act that out themselves. I trust men about as far as I can throw them. Men have shown time and time again that they can't be trusted with privacy because they literally consider us subhuman, especially if they're fucking us, and people who consider you subhuman aren't going to consider you or respect you. But really, any adult should realize that people, their opinions, thoughts and desires, are not static and need to be continually checked. People do 180s all the time on their partners and they often aren't likely to tell you all about their shameful behavior or interests.
Sorry that I upset you I guess? I think you might have some trust issues unresolved, not related to men. Sure, most of them are deceitful. But not all, right?
I'm not upset. Only the gullible would want to risk their stability and safety for the sake of living by a very flawed maxim that doesn't consider how just generally fallible humans generally are, or, at worst, how inconsiderate, spiteful, or sadistic they can be. You don't know what anyone is capable of, or who they are capable of becoming, even if you think you know them in the present moment. A lot of people don't even know themselves and it's pretty arrogant that people think they can get an accurate enough read on someone else to think they not only know them for sure now, but know who they will be in the future? Insane.
I think the skin is too sensitive for regular scratching. My bf told me that if you ask a guy what the action means he will know.
love my machiavellian sisters :)
nOt AlL mEn
Yes, all men. Go buy your Belle Delphine bathwater and jerk off with your fecal matter hands.
that's a moid so there's no point being made it's just nonsense that nobody is going to read or care about :)
You speak a multitude of facts
Well they're obviously doing it for reward of some kind, it's ridiculous to expect anyone to work or risk without at least a hope of reward. We have to pay people to work for the same reason>>68809
Totally true, I've seen it myself, they get super intense. I'm both glad I don't have to deal with that and envious. It's so out of my domain of understanding I can't even pick up on it without it first being pointed out to me. It's like a whole layer of social interaction I'm blind to
>>68972>It's like a whole layer of social interaction I'm blind to
I know this whole thread is dedicated to it, but I wonder how many things we don't pick up on.
I can tell you almost all of it is dominance dispute stuff, finding out who's where on the hierarchy and challenges to position. I ask my boyfriend about it all the time cause it's so fascinating. If you look at a guy or a guy's girl for a split second too long it becomes a challenge. Before a dispute gets escalated to a fight they size up each other and stare down so one of them will back down before a fight happens. I feel like Jane goodall except I can talk to my subjects, it's all so fascinating.
-fit- in an image.…
The parts about cheating and the supposedly insane numbers of fetishes men have are certainly going a little too far here. It seems like they read too much r/FDS and they're lurking on 4chan a lot as well as taking their shitposts very seriously.
But, I think they are absolutely right about their cunning and violent behaviors as it seems to be a universal thing (not counting the <5% of men that are naturally soft, gentle, submissive and empathetic).
They pee in sinks. If it's a single person use bathroom, even then.
where did you find all these shitty guys, most men I met were either neutral or really nice to me
Is that an American thing or something?
>moids doing autistic monke brain shit
>”kinda hot ngl”
This is your brain on heterosexuality. Same tho tbh. Moids are at their best when they’re dumb and aggressive
Hate bringing evopsych or any of that bullshit into discussions, but could that be the reason why? Seeing men that are the strongest = they're the best protectors, or something like that.
Men masturbated to 80% of women they know.
Dressing in overly bright colors is considered gay, at least among the old-school men.
Men are very good at evaluating each other’s power* level. Who they can and cannot take on in a fight, who is the most ‘dangerous’ inside this room.
In dire situations mental breakdowns are dealt with beatings.
Men dislike men who speak too much.
They can get pissed off if their friends steal their jokes to impress someone else when they are nearby. Bonus points if those jokes work and are told to women.
>>69015>really nice to me
Stacy confirmed. Your experiences are not universal.
Most men I meet are nice to me, but that doesn't mean anything. A lot of men have been much "nicer" to me than female strangers or acquaintances, but how men treat you superficially is not who they are. The entire male playbook is centered around hiding their awful qualities and psychopathy until/unless they've gotten what they wanted, or have trapped people at least emotionally, enough, to the point where unlatching themselves is difficult. Men are taught this by other men. This is why women are so often emotionally abused, if not physically and sexually by them, and it's really sad that it's so often considered the woman's fault. The entire point is to either pressure the woman to overlook any and all prospective red flags, or to hide anything that could potentially be seen as a red flag, and do everything in your power to pretend to be nice and deeply devoted. My father was very abusive (to me as well, physically, especially) and I watched this firsthand play out over and over and over and over. I have also had many "nice" male friends and while they treat me well, I know their sexual interests (they're disgusting and depressing) and I don't trust who they would necessarily be without the pressure to not act "decent". I also know what they think about the women they're dating and how they use women in general. The men in your life will always mostly be strangers, imho, save for maybe a few.
Recently posted on the vent thread. This behavior is very common. Men aren't going to be honest about how awful they are. Most people won't, but men take it to an extreme, and that's how women get stuck. It's practically a second job for them.
I keep seeing this pattern of how the lowest men in the hierarchy of men are always so desperate for someone to be with and would even kill themselves or someone else for that someone, yet, as some time passes, they always take everything from granted regarding the fact that they were now able to get that 'special' someone.
This kind of thing has never, ever been seen with women whatsoever, neither online or IRL. So I am seriously wondering why does this happen in men only?
My hypothesis is that it may be related to the concept of property and how men are so keen towards owning things
–even, perhaps especially, women–so they behave like shit once they have owned someone and therefore take things for granted.
Seeing a guy put another into submission or stand his ground when the dominance dispute happens is attractive probably cause you see that he's capable and strong but not stupid enough to just pound his chest, there's a finesse to it. Also cause the other men bow to him, and if a guy is the alpha in a group he's 10x more attractive I think for the same reason.>>69028>In dire situations mental breakdowns are dealt with beatings
Seconded, they don't allow weakness when shit gets real
>Men are very good at evaluating each other's power level
For sure, they've evolved to push past one another on the hierarchy so they understand physical and social queues that just fly over our heads.
One I'd like to add is that between men there is always a threat of violence, for a man whom violence is never an option other men will not respect him.
I just ask my boyfriend about this all the time, it's probably my n0.1 favourite subject on men
Sure, not all men, but it's always helpful to remember what >>68936
is talking about. I don't think we should go out of our way to fuck 'em over but taking safety precautions against the class of people whom are taught from an early age to think of you as property is for the better.
We aren't important to them at all, we aren't needed by them at all despite their claims, and their extreme acts of "devotion" are actually owed to impulsivity, stupidity, and usually, manipulation. Nothing else. Just because they're extreme doesn't mean they actually were that desperate or actually cared, just stupid and inclined to be violent and melodramatic. It's a property thing to some extent, but I don't think it's biological. I think it's literally just that their culture is one of spoiled selfishness and shallow hysterics that they want to mount as being deep and meaningful when it just isn't.
welcome to toxic mascuilinity
Single moms, having their child is like marking their territory. They have such a distain towards single moms or even older women in general.
My bf would never date a single mom he has told me plenty of times.
The amount of men who have such fucked up fetishes. Most normie men have some degrees of fetishes too.
>>69078>My bf would never date a single mom he has told me plenty of times.
Seems like a reasonable dealbreaker to me.
Meh we're childfree and I would never date someone with kids or a single dad.
There's a difference with not wanting to be a parent or take care of a child, and what men hate: the fact that in their mind the woman has basically been defiled by another man by carrying and birthing his child. Like the anon above said, it's a territorial thing, not a "this is incompatible with my lifestyle" thing.
This is absolutely, without a doubt the reason men are against this. It's literally just "CUCK CUCK CUCK I DUNWANNA BE A CUCK!! DUDE, MUHCROCHIMERISM AND SHIT…"
It's never about anything sensible with them, it has to be petty and almost nonsensical, like the men that think wiping their ass is gay.
Couldn't POSSIBLY be they just don't want to put up with a brat. Nope. You should look up the abuse rates of adopted kids. Nobody, not even people that go out of their way, truly likes kids who aren't theirs.
please swiftly go fuck yourself, sperg. we all know what the reasons are, because they make it very clear irl and online. it's no secret and they aren't ashamed to admit it. and no, you're full of shit. i know so many women that love their bfs or husband's kids. abuse within the foster care system is rampant because these kids are used as mealtickets by unscrupulous people, not because they can't love a child that's their own, but that they are already exploitative people looking for a way to make money.
Whatever you say. Baggage is baggage. I wouldn't even look at a guy with a kid.
you're trying too hard to assert and emphasize your (non) point that flies in the face of reality and what men frequently and very vocally admit anyways, and it just reads as male. you're obviously this feeble-minded skidmark >>69077 as this post sounds exactly like it >>69091
95% chance you are a moid yourself, or you're just defending people that don't give a fuck about you and see you as nothing more than a walking fleshlight. I will pray for you.
How is that toxic masculinity? That's just how they are, it's really direct problem solving
>>69091>Couldn't POSSIBLY be they just don't want to put up with a brat
Anon, these men are literally saying that they don't want to fuck used goods. They aren't ashamed of their reasons and do not conceal them.
Most internet "mysoginists" melt at any gentle female irl you don't even have to be pretty. Of course you probably don't want attention from these type of dweebs but i think it's funny how some people act like dumb teenager boys who spend all day on twitter are the same people beating their wifes up
I don't think you realize how many online misogynists are 30+ yo men with wives, if not families.
And divorced and single too. The majority though are the divorced and single type like most of the internet. Single.
Read punter forums and you'll see what I mean.
A lot of men don't wash their hands after peeing, but there are some who do.
A lot of their banter are very sexual in nature, but most of the time, it's the guys who don't like these kinds of banter who are the real perverts and likely to be irrational.
Metrosexual men are too vain, sometimes even more vain than me.
There seems to be a lot of guys sharing their porn with each other, but I've never had that problem. I asked my ex bf to delete our videos together when we were through, and he did it out of good will.
They are also secretly big eaters, specially for their favorite foods. Like literal slobs.
Lots of them partake in effeminate stuff: girly music, girly movies, girly shows, etc., and discuss them with each other. I find it amusing that they don't lose their manliness when talking about those things with their friends, but also don't like other guys doing it.
>>69144>There seems to be a lot of guys sharing their porn with each other, but I've never had that problem. I asked my ex bf to delete our videos together when we were through, and he did it out of good will.
no offense, but sure he did. when i was like 18 i said the same to my bf, he did, and after we broke up i found out he had a whole cloud full of those same deleted photos. they make back ups.
How did you discover the cloud?
he told me and showed me out of spite while we were arguing a while after the break up. i'm sure my pictures are probably somewhere online but i have no identifying features and want to change my name anyways
I'm sorry that had to happen to you, but I'm sure with him. He's a lot of things, but I've never had a problem with him with regards to things like that.
But in a sense of agreeing with you, in the end, we can only hope for the best.
I have never sent any nudes, it was always enough for my boyfriends when they saw me naked IRL. Seriously, am I the only one that has never taken nudie pictures?
>>69144>They are also secretly big eaters, specially for their favorite foods. Like literal slobs.
And yet a lot of them are skinny and/or have little fat.
God I wish my metabolism was as good as an average scrote's.
Based anon, sending nudes/letting anyone take your nude pics is the worst thing you can do as a woman.
It's funny, they're always wishing to be skinnier or heavier and damn their metabolism because of the difficulties it provides, though the difference between the slowest and fastest metabolism within normal ranges is a spoon of peanut butter a day.
Yeah, and a two-serving difference (~300-400 kcal) between an average woman and a same-height scrote. Not accounting for metabolism being slowed down in some women due to frequent dieting, thyroid problems, the pill, etc and moids being taller/having more muscle mass on average.
How does the pill affect metabolism?
Messes your natural hormones up. Anything that affects your hormones also affects your metabolism.
Specifically OC make you more resistant to insulin, which can cause weight gain and metabolic syndrome (pre-diabetes).
Interesting, I have heard of women gaining weight because of it. Makes sense.
>>69144>Lots of them partake in effeminate stuff: girly music, girly movies, girly shows, etc., and discuss them with each other. I find it amusing that they don't lose their manliness when talking about those things with their friends, but also don't like other guys doing it.
Uh, where do you live, anon?
That has not been seen in any of the countries I have lived in where I have had male friends, as they would certainly get bullied pretty hard for liking girly stuff.
Then again the places I have lived in are full of machismo and toxic masculinity.>>69151
You simply don't follow stupid, highly dangerous (social-wise) trends.
nta, but I'm from Canada and most guys are like this, aside from maybe the hardcore hockey jocks and country boys (well…technically seaside town boys but the only difference is fishing and accents).
You still have his nudes? Why not delete them?
a male. XY chromosome having human. consider 'femoids' vs 'moids'
>>69144>A lot of their banter are very sexual in nature, but most of the time, it's the guys who don't like these kinds of banter who are the real perverts and likely to be irrational.
Can you please elaborate? I know banter is common in male friendships or male dominated spaces overall, but I don't see how a man is a pervert if he doesn't enjoy that.
They think skid marks are a normal thing that just happens.
What the fuck are you talking about ewwwwwwwww
She's right they fucking do, I saw a facebook post once of a woman saying her husband doesn't wipe because he thinks that's gay
It's in my experience that guys who don't like it are only really trying to get on the good side of women to appear gentlemanly. They have a facade, so to speak, and deep down are even worse than the guys who openly make banter. At least with the others, it's a What You See Is What You Get kind of deal.
Another "I really need to justify my resentment to men by fake assumptions in despite of growing up and realize people are shit no matter the genre and actually prefer to hide my insecurities blaming men" thread. Why it doesn't surprise me?
I thought that kind of threads were in a contained one, sheesh.
Maybe this is common knowledge but after they scratch their nuts they sniff their fingers
>>69144>Lots of them partake in effeminate stuff: girly music, girly movies, girly shows, etc., and discuss them with each other. I find it amusing that they don't lose their manliness when talking about those things with their friends, but also don't like other guys doing it.
True all the moids in my class admitted they watched sailor moon when they were kids.
Also some moids like to watch/read romantic manga/anime/movies but would never admit it even to their gf.
I've seen boys play with barbies, read romantic manga/anime/movies as you've said, listen to Ariana Grande/Carly Rae Jepsen/Selena Gomez's stuff and overheard a group of them discuss Glee beyond the music and the actresses. I honestly don't think less of them tbh, it's the hiding of it that amuses me.
>>69217>I honestly don't think less of them tbh
well i do, it's just weird
I don't think they like shoujo stuff aimed at girls and young women though, don't they prefer harem stuff with romantic elements? Which is not that surprising considering it's usually written for guys anyway and the main characters are male.>>69218
What exactly is weird?
I meant stuff like pic related and Princess Mononoke
This is just the "dude's who like chick flicks" discussion restrained to anime. It's atypical considering they are, by definition, not the target audience, but I don't think it's weird unless your cultural context takes any intrusion by men into feminine products and art as a problem.
Lurk more or go away, "please.">>69216>but would never admit it even to their gf.
I think this depends if said gf is a real weeb or not as I have seen weeb couples liking the same things–even romcom anime–given the fact that the normal standard of men is to not have "feminine" feelings and never say the word "cute," other than referring to their girlfriend.
Perhaps this could be a good moid secret to discuss for the thread as there are some words in men's vocabulary that are forbidden to use in their daily lives, but I can't think of any other than the word "cute."
i think it is a problem seeing as how they manage to sexualize children and children's characters that look and sound like children, so seamlessly. in terms of gender roles, not a problem, but i question men who are interested in "girly" things for the sake of them either fetishizing media's portrayal of female childhood and our existence in general, or just the possibility that they are attracted to these characters. genuinely innocent interest in these things is fine though, i just believe it to be uncommon.
what is common is them enjoying "girly" music or female vocalists and hiding it.
>>69252>sexualize children and children's characters>fetishizing media's portrayal of female childhood
Sounds like tumblr sjw-esque logic but who knows, you might be right. Or not.
isn't this site filled with shota? seems super hypocritical, no?
Tight jeans give them constant boners.
To make boners less visible and painful some put their dicks upward in their pants and behind a belt.
Some wear baggy hoodies to hide it better.
Those who have a bigger than average dick hate sitting on a toilet.
Some masturbate before school, uni or work so they don’t get boners.
thank you for the tips based coomer
I do not understand how the hell did you end up into that conclusion about the sexualization of children and "girly" things, but I have a humble, perhaps dumb as shit, hunch that men crave
for the typical stuff featured in said 'girly' stuff, such as the emotions that both inherently give you and are described in girly media, and the romance that is almost always featured in them.
Additionally, maybe men self-insert as the main character that the heroine in a given 'girly' media will be destined to love, therefore inherently feeling that particular combination of emotions where they feel desired and are able to feel love from a woman, even if it comes from a self-insert woman character. This latter part being strongly related to what you said about feeling attracted to these characters, even if the usual depictions/descriptions of them are 'average' or 'plain Jane'. (pic related in the case of Eastern 'girly stuff')>>69278
NTA but I haven't seen the shotacons and the raccoonanons in a while.
I hope they're okay amid this pandemic since they're fun to talk to in their respective threads.
Also, it is highly likely that anon is not a shotacon but one of those anti-pornography women that love Andrea Dworkin.
idk, you tell me. i'm not a long term cc user. i don't approve of shota. >>69275
i'm correct. all it takes is a peek around the internet or irl to see that they do sexualize characters that are meant to be children. not saying they all do, all of the time, but it's a thing. there's so much hentai of 10 year old characters that look like 10 year old characters, being jerked off to by adult men, but alright. let's also not pretend bronies didn't want to fuck the ponies. if you think it's so bizarre, please go check out the numerous male tranners that watch anime meant for kids that are especially girly, that fetishize female childhood, dress like children, fuck while dressed like children, and complain about how they never got to "enjoy girlhood".
Oh, I understood your point now, Anon. I'm >>69301
and I misunderstood your stance.
I didn't thought about it, but yeah, there is certainly some concern about men who get into the more girly and for younger girls stuff, such as the many Precure anime and, in the case of the West, the ponies and the obvious that they wanted to unironically have sex with them in Alabama or somewhere redneck-esque.
The tranny stuff is something to consider too, for they, the TiMs, were used to be men who simply liked girly stuff, but their mental illness kicked in and got validated, so they troon out and stay permanently on Twitter and Tumblr.
wait all those about men who don't wipe, wash hands, clean themselves are true? Damn, here that may be case for some old guys
Not wiping your ass and sleeping in bed with shoes on is only an american thing, but not washing hands thing is true everywhere, only male doctors wash hands, but they get bullied by other men for doing so.
Fun fact: Gordon Ramsay got busted washing his hands once and got kicked out of patriarchy for that.
>>69747>only male doctors wash hands, but they get bullied by other men for doing so.
what kind of animals are they? In my entire life I met maybe 1 or 2 men who don't wash hands after toilet.
I had to give a pee sample once and I asked the lady who took samples how often people forget to wash their hands and she said that 50% of men forget and get angry when you tell them to wash their hands.
What if they wash their hands and their dick falls off?
I have seen map of "automatic" hands washing after toilet use in europe. Eastern europe is significantly better than western europe. On balkan it's +90%
Disgusting. Adults who don't wash their hands after peeing should have their hands bound and disabled.
Most paint men as dangerous monster but in my experience they can be very easily trained.
Most men are starved for attention and compliments. Compliment them a little without looking like a simp and theyll follow you like a dog.
>>69878>repeating grooming strategies endlessly used to manipulate women
This ain't it. Well, actually, maybe it is, because moids deserve it. But I just had to point it out.
Im not saying to do it or that is right. Im just saying they are not as scary as might thing.
Grooming is a completely different thing and more complex
>>69878>Most men are starved for attention and compliments
Only ever read this on the english speaking internet to be honest. Do you happen to be from the us, canada etc.?
They literally receive so much praise for doing absolutely nothing that they manage to completely stave off any and all development of self awareness. They get complimented constantly even when they are not competent at all at whatever it is that they do.
I've had so many male friends and it's just not true at all, they ignore the fact that they do have plenty of girls into them and are desirable to women. They think not getting propositioned by a stranger for a session of spontaneous raw dogging on the floor of the canned soup aisle of the grocery store means they're living a life of suffering and mistreatment at the hands of women. If they aren't getting randomly approached by women the way women are by men, they think they're victims.
Cackling because true.
I have a friend who has complained about not being successful with women, but he has to catch himself before going deep into it because…he rejected me.
I did so much shit for him when I had feelings, too. Not that I feel owed since we are actually incompatible and in hindsight I'm glad, but for sure men get a lot of attention.
Literally all men are whores.
This 100%. Patriarchy culture constantly praises men for just existing. Women get compliments from men who want to fuck them, gay men who share common fashion/beauty interests or from other women. Only two of these are genuine and not creepy.
Men seem to think that women should be telling them how hot they are constantly, despite them making zero effort to look good. Men are so homophobic that they struggle to accept even the smallest compliment from another man, yet think women must love being made into sex objects by strangers larger and stronger than them. They can't even take the tiniest compliment from someone they aren't interested in and then wonder why no one compliments them.
Why are men so stupid.
If I had a dollar every time a self-proclaimed nice guy had rejected me in my youth in favor of simping over some poor girl who doesn’t even know he exists, I’d be able to move into a haunted mansion with an army of vampiric butlers.
Used to blame the girls for this, but now I pity them. The guys weren’t even particularly good looking, just entitled lmao.
There's more male virgins than female virgins.
Did my post get deleted cause I sound like a man? That was all I said
>>69967>There's more male virgins than female virgins
I believed this was true for a long time also, but now I realize that men are simply lying about this. I know multiple men who have had sex repeatedly, but "it doesn't count b/c wrong hole" or "it doesn't count b/c prostitute" or "it doesn't count b/c she was ugly" or "it doesn't count b/c it was a long time ago"
>>69973>it doesn't count b/c it was a long time ago
does this mean I've regrown my virginity?
On a serious note though dudes wouldn't lie about it unless the scenario is more shameful than being a virgin in itself. Doing anal doesn't seem like it'd be more shameful than being a virgin if anything guys like that right.
The virgins I know are very prudish and prefer to keep hidden their status of virginity. Or you know the opposite side where they're christian or something and take outspoken pride in their virginity
Yeah, it's a weird thing to lie about outside of the fringe cases you pointed out. I'm really struggling to think of reasons as to why someone would pretend to be a virgin.
Part of the reason can be cultural stupidity. In Japan, prostitution is so common that a lot of men don't count it as having losing virginity. To them, prostitution is daily occurrence, not a special event.
Japan would def. count as an edge case, imo. I think that in Europe and NA a guy is more likely to lie about not being a virgin than being one. Did virginity in guys become attractive while I wasn't looking or something?
No it's just the typical imageboard weirdness.
Imageboard's crowd only represent a small percentage of the world's population. You should go outside more.
To be fair, it's human nature to want what we can't have. I'm choosy myself, I don't want to end up with just about anyone.
That was my point though? Male virgins being attractive only a thing on image imageboards, people irl do not find them desirable.
Male virginity is priced either because:
1) Anons have had enough of fuckboys
2) Anons are religious and chaste, so they want someone who is like that too
3) The (possible) benefits of having a virgin boyfriend, e.g., he may not be that much of a coomer, so he won't be violent towards you during sex; more intimacy and loyalty towards you(?); male purity, etc.
4) A unique way to prevent STDs and AIDS?
It is sort of understandable, but very unusual to see outside of CC as there is no culture who truly values male virginity.
The fourth one since I am very frightened of STDs.
Same thats why I date down (legals) now. It's better if I can pick me a moid than deal with the disgusting old porn addicted ones that should die already.
They are all homos who are jealous of women
Hmm, I'm starting to think this too given how almost all cultures of the world since ancient times always have accepted male homosexuality, while it isn't always the case with female homosexuality, or sexuality in general.
Else, we probably would have had lots of records about them in great detail, knowing moids.
They don't like female homosexuality cause homosexuality serves to bond same sex people and they don't want a society where women are strongly bonded together cause that would automatically be a society where men would be opressed and females would dominate, like it happens among bonobos for example and much like ancient greece and rome but with the roles reversed. The latter and today's society are completely male homo and that's why we are subjected to scrotes' hatred and jealousy
this is simply not true. as far as ancients are concerned, female homosexuality is a non-issue because it doesn't matter who a female or moid is attracted to they both must marry eachother and make a family because a culture is dead otherwise. male homosexuality is more problematic because it has social implications they care about. it was not 'accepted', specific traditions were followed (not general homosexuality, that is a modern western reductionism – same with trans stuff) and even then it was thought of badly primarily because a bottom homosexual male is necessarily failing to fit into the male role (by being penetrated) + inability to be a woman (men aren't allowed in women's domain) and reproduce which is hugely problematic in a family/clan centred society. they were also much more tolerant of woman assuming male roles whereas for any men appearing effeminate often the only social recourse was suicide.>>70461
moids love lesbians though. either to sexualise them (like people do with yaoi) or see them as 'bros'.
That's true there was a festival for the goddess Bona Dea where men were barred from coming and where lesbian sexual relationships were common for the night.
Your dumb ass has never studied Ancient greece, Rome and other societies. To you, liking lesbian porn = love lesbians.
Males do not need to wipe their penis since the urinary tract is already quite small.
Girls wouldn't need to wipe their vaginas either if peeing in a squatting position was allowed.>>69144
A lot of men do not need to touch their penis while peeing because the small size already does not need adjustment.
The men that need to grab their dick to aim, are usually of a larger size than average.
Of course most men won't admit to this. Many will wash their hands even if all they did was pull down their pants, and pull them back up.>>69281
Males can get hard if they need to pee. I'm not sure how that works.>>69732
A lot of socially maladjusted males will think nothing of touching their dick in private like one would rub their cheek. Then they go on to keep typing/using the mouse like nothing happened.
>>70541>Males can get hard if they need to pee. I'm not sure how that works.
Is this bait? This is like something you'd hear in 5th grade
>>70564https://www.performanceinsiders.com/pee-trouble-erection.html>Reflexogenic erection is an involuntary process and can occur without sexual stimuli. A full bladder is mostly responsible for it. The nerves that control this reflex are present in the sacral nerves of the spinal cord which can also stimulate when a man has full-bladder.
>Some say that it is impossible to pee if you have an erection. Well, it’s all about building a strategy so you can pee when you need to pee.
> Aiming at the toilet can seem impossible without hurting yourself. So don’t force it. The best response to this is to allow your erection to relax partially. Even so, after succeeding on this part, you still need to work on getting your stream to start flowing.
Imagine having to formulate a strategy in order to pee.
The muscles that are in use inside the urethra to forbid urine flow are the same ones that permit semen to pass. Only women can pee and orgasm at the same time. Male squirting is a slashfic and yaoi artifact, not grounded in reality. The penis has two states; one permitting easy urination, and one permitting easy erection. Low-level reflexogenic erection is probably the reason men get erections while asleep, as the body suppresses the release of urine. This is also probably why men say that if they hold in their pee for long enough it feels like a sexual release.
>>70581>Imagine having to formulate a strategy in order to pee
a trade off of our peeing compared to theirs, I've never see a line for the men's bathroom cause they can pee anywhere. We don't have to deal with piss strategy but can't pee anywhere.
there was a study where they had people answer anonymous survey questions about sex while edging themselves so they were aroused (lol). under those conditions, 27% of straight men said they'd happily let a cute twink suck them off. make of that what you will.
Lol take a look at 4chan and other male dominated forums and you'll see how many men pose as straight irl but are really into twinks and trannies
yeah it's not news to anyone here but it's news to the average person. male bisexuality is almost as common as female bisexuality is but everyone pretends it's not; now we have scientific proof.
99% of men neither wash nor wipe their penises after peeing. Also, most leak a little after peeing. So they just soak their pants. Also, if they get horny they leak precum which soaks their pants further. Many don't change their pants for several days. Imagine the stench.
I remember my ex was amused at how disgusted my reaction was when he told me that no man ever wipes his dick after he pisses.
Anyway as for moid secrets, I can tell you 100% of men are hebephiles/ephebophiles, and about half of men are capable of sexual attraction to children. That was a hard blackpill to swallow.
I wouldn't say 100%.
But 98% of them would never admit it, so it's hard to tell.
Also, pedo sex offenders are lynched worldwide in prisons on a regular basis. So some men definitively have no chill on this topic.
This is describing one specific thing that sometimes happens. You've clearly never had a bf. I've seen what mine does when he has to pee while hard and he basically has to lay on top of the toilet its kind of hilarious. If moids had to do that every time they peed they'd be even pickier about peeing than most women
The fuck? Who does that? You need to get with a real man, not some fucking soybean boy who's afraid to miss the bowl
every moid cries at the song "Cat's in the Cradle"
You still won't get a gf here.
Unless you just want to date a tranner, which is probably a best fit for you.
incel and incel, the only combo that loser could ever get.
except that tweens and even teens are not more fertile, their children are less likely to survive, they're less likely to survive childbirth, they suffer far more complications, and their children often have low birth weight. it's a meme bc men are obsessed with what they can't have. it's not evolutionary anything. it's the same reason why they're obsessed with our assholes. their sexuality is not motivated by any sense or reason, it's all senseless and silly post-hoc 'rationalizing'.
>>70626>their sexuality is not motivated by any sense or reason>sexuality is not motivated by reason>a biological force older than trees has no evolutionary basis
you're fucking losing it, anon. If men could ascend from their evolutionary chains that'd make them nietzschean supermen.
you are partially correct, the average lie span was indeed as low as 40 but that is because of significant child mortality. The basic strategy back then was to poop out as many children as possible to get the greatest amount of children making it to adulthood. This also means that you indeed have to start mating as early as possible.
they can and will be memed into anything and will use bullshit rationalizations post-meme. for fuck's sake they've memed themselves into fucking each other. get real.
meaning you think other mammals have also memed themselves into being homosexuals too. Sexuality is evolutionary and is ensconced in a history older than vertebrates. If they could rationalise themselves out of their instincts they wouldn't be men as we knew them.
Wait a second, if there are troons here, then why do you take issue with men posting?
>this kind of makes sense from an evolutionary point of view.
No, it doesn't.
1-Throughout history, women would start menstruating at around 17yo. Girls mentruating at 12yo or 13yo is a recent thing
2-Teenage girls, especially under 17 are at higher risk of dying in childbirth and give birth to still born.
3- A woman's fertility peaks in her early and mid-20s .
To add onto that, if you take into account that monogamy (and monoandry) might not have been as universally prevalent as it is in our current culture, it would make sense that the most attractive woman should be one who has already borne a couple of children, since it clearly shows that she's healthy, fertile and most importantly, won't die of complications (and we know how that whole ordeal usually went up until the 19th/20th century).
Much higher infant mortality rates encouraged constant breeding, fertility peaks from late teenage-hood to late 20s so to start while young makes sense though it may be riskier. Fertility also drops to zero from 40s to 50s so to wait presents another risk. Similar point to >>70628
As I said, women would start menstruating at around 17yo: just about to become of age. So no, there aren't any evolutionary reasons or biological advantages that explain men being attracted to 16yo below girls other than the fact men are a scum that must be eliminated from the face of the earth as soon as possible
>>70628>This also means that you indeed have to start mating as early as possible.
But I bet those 12-13 year old girls didn't mate with boys their age but with adult men, which is disgusting.
In late 19th century America the average age of menarche was 14 and yet the age of consent was 7-10 (depending on state). That was legit pedophilia and men had no problem with fucking kids even before they started to menstruate. Then christian feminist groups started fighting to raise the age of consent to 16 (to this day moids on 4chan cry that modern age of consent laws are feminists' fault). I bet men only changed the law because adult women started to rebel against their pedo laws and men wanted to tame them. But their tendencies are still the same, they just learned to hide them.
Here's what makes absolutely no sense to me:
Let's say hypothetically the majority of men is okay with going for 14 yo girls.
This would make it biological/evolutionary!
(As it's worldwide and throughout history, it's not a social or cultural thing)
So, if this would be the case - then HOW come women somehow evolved in a different direction, finding it disgusting?
Our psychological triggers and behaviours evolved over a period of 200 000 years, most of which was spent in hunter gatherer societies, an environment where food was scarce and physical activity intense, and as such girls most likely got their periods later (and less often).
1000 years ago, and a farming society no less (more nutrition! But not too much lol), seems to me relatively too recent to look for an evolutionary explanation, or for any major changes in our psychology and behaviour to have taken place resulting from the change in environment (though our cultural norms certainly can change in that span). If there are findings of skeletons from prehistoric times that somehow show that girls had been succesfully giving birth at ages 12-15 for hundreds of thousands of years, it'd be more believable.
In any case, evolutionarily explainable or nor, it doesn't mean it should be allowed, considered as moral, or excused in our society. And least of all encouraged. These evolutionary takes have kind of started pissing me off honestly, seems like everyone's just selectively picking out what suits them to validate their own agenda with a high IQ spin (perhaps including me a little bit…)
Shit, I didn't realize there were two links and just read the second one. Ugh.
Sexual conflict I guess. It's not like female animals are ok with male exploitation either, they evolve to make rape physically harder (like female ducks), they form unions with other females to defend themselves from males like bonobos etc. Males and females are completely different, they're not complementary, it's more like a constant struggle and fight between two sexes rather than something that could've been seen through the lenses of dualism (like "males are naturally aggressive so that means females are naturally submissive" - they're not, they don't just mindlessly take male violence without trying to fight back or just avoid males).
I said it many times on this board kek but from biological point of view males are just parasites and the more redpilled geneticists like Bryan Sykes and Steve Jones have the guts to describe them as such. Dawkins also calls them "exploiters".
No wonder so many males go batshit insane now, and even if they're not incel, abusive or porn-addicted, they still won't share 50% of housework and childcare and they won't see females as true equals because it's simply not in their nature. I think the civilization will eventually collapse under its own weight and that's a good thing, because if moids are unable to coexist with females on more equal terms, this civilization doesn't deserve to exist to begin with.
>1-Throughout history, women would start menstruating at around 17yo. Girls mentruating at 12yo or 13yo is a recent thing
Nah, we have medical texts from 1000s of years ago saying that girls were starting about 13. In properly nourished hunter-gatherer societies out in the jungle girls start about 13 too. In the 1800s menarche occurred much later than it did today because the masses were poorly nourished. Since then nutrition has improved and the age at menarche has fallen back to the natural age of about 13. Menarche isn't abnormally early today, it was abnormally late in the 1800s.
>2-Teenage girls, especially under 17 are at higher risk of dying in childbirth and give birth to still born.
True but these risks are offset by the longer reproductive lifespan you get by starting to reproduce in the teens as opposed to waiting until your 20s.
>3- A woman's fertility peaks in her early and mid-20s
What matters is the amount of offspring a female is capable of giving a man over the long-term. This is highest for females just prior the beginning of their reproductive lifespan when they have all their fertile years ahead of them.
>To add onto that, if you take into account that monogamy (and monoandry) might not have been as universally prevalent as it is in our current culture, it would make sense that the most attractive woman should be one who has already borne a couple of children, since it clearly shows that she's healthy, fertile and most importantly, won't die of complications (and we know how that whole ordeal usually went up until the 19th/20th century).
In primitive hunter-gatherer societies like we evolved in most reproduction takes place within monogamous (or nearly monogamous) marriages. Long-term exclusive relationships have been the mating system for our species for 100,000s of years. For his reason it makes sense for men to prefer females who are young and haven't started reproducing yet and so have all their reproductive years ahead of them. Men dislike the physical signs a woman has already started having babies such as stretch-marks, boobs that have gone saggy from breast-feeding, and vaginas that have got looser from child birth. The males in our species prefer females that haven't started reproducing yet.
>>70666>For his reason it makes sense for men to prefer females who are young and haven't started reproducing yet and so have all their reproductive years ahead of them. Men dislike the physical signs a woman has already started having babies such as stretch-marks, boobs that have gone saggy from breast-feeding, and vaginas that have got looser from child birth. The males in our species prefer females that haven't started reproducing yet.
Yeah but that makes sense only for other young men. Older men should've just stick to females their own age and raise kids with them, instead of praying on younger women. And men who missed out and didn't manage to pair with a woman when they were young should perish and stop using evopsych as an excuse for going after younger women. Young women should seek out quality genes from young men (even sperm banks don't want sperm from men who are older than 35). Moids were withholding the recources and oppressing women for most of human history so it was harder for women to decide for themselves. When given a choice, the majority of young women prefer young men (no more than 4 years older than them), not older dudes.
Also, it's funny how different human males are. Dominant male chimps compete for mothers, not for virgin females, and the more children a female gave birth to, the higher she is in female hierarchy.
>I said it many times on this board kek but from biological point of view males are just parasites and the more redpilled geneticists like Bryan Sykes and Steve Jones have the guts to describe them as such. Dawkins also calls them "exploiters".
Do you happen to have any link to an article or something that goes off about it and could it link it here? I wanna read more into that
I've seen them doing fart competitions, like who barfs or farts the loudest. Why?
>>70666>In primitive hunter-gatherer societies like we evolved in most reproduction takes place within monogamous (or nearly monogamous) marriages. Long-term exclusive relationships have been the mating system for our species for 100,000s of years.
Hm, this seems like it'd be hard to verify, especially if you take our propensity for cheating into account. My only source being Robert Sapolsky's lectures on this theme (they're on YT, absolutely recommend), I remember him mentioning that our species is a sort of 50/50 split between pair-bonding monogamy and straight up polygamy. Most commonly we practice "serial monogamy", which means we find a partner, stay faithful, wait till our offspring is of an age when it can safely separate from the mother (3-5 yrs. if I remember right) and then move onto the next partner. This time basically coincided with most people not feeling attracted to their partner anymore, but of course, you'll find people who still do after decades, so it's a mixed bag.
>Men dislike the physical signs a woman has already started having babies such as stretch-marks, boobs that have gone saggy from breast-feeding, and vaginas that have got looser from child birth. The males in our species prefer females that haven't started reproducing yet.
So I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on this topic, but here's another thought I wanna throw out. As humans, we've also evolved to be aware of our social surroundings and sort of follow and adapt to the crowd. Our language, gestures and mannerisms, dress-code, moral values, likes and dislikes, etc. So living in a society that actively advertises pedophilic tendencies as desirable - absolute hairlessness (which wasn't a thing before the razor, and no one gave a shit), as skinny as possible (curvy women - not obese - have always been considered attractive in art, and still are in real life), perfectly photoshopped face with zero marks of any kind (neigh impossible to witness before the advent of photography - and as for young girls, they probably had greasy faces and zits in their teens), no body marks or sag - conditions men to be attracted to these features.
And I understand how a "perfect face" is indeed viscerally attractive and can sell products very well, but as for all the other things I mentioned, while they don't appear so often naturally, we live surrounded by these images from birth to death, so our expectations and preferences could very well be artificially molded and shifted towards them, in a way. Tiny feet were also considered attractive in China until relatively recently, yet none of the rest of us ever gave a shit. How was that in any way beneficial?
Anyway, I'm not trying to dispute the fact that youth and health and whatever are attractive, absolutely, but there's a clear difference in appearance (and birthing safety or whatever) between 12-years-old-youth and 20-years-old-youth, and the preference (ew) of some people for the first one doesn't necessarily have to be evolutionarily hard-wired in all men (fucking sucks if it is though, kill them all), it could be a number of things (societal norms, the feeling of power, wanting to groom them…). And women can still look young after giving birth, it's not like we suddenly jump into our 50s - it's just a bit more sagginess and weight, things that show fertility, so it wouldn't make sense for these tendencies to specifically """target""" children over them.
Thanks for that thought thread.
I never thought of it as a 'conflict', but it's true, it is.
It's also the sad part of evolution, that we humans not only have external evolutionary factors to adapt to, but also put up our own. The saddest part, we are only vaguely aware of this.
However I can't fully agree with the whole parasite/exploiter narrative. Sounds to me, too much like those incels raging about how women are all just gold diggers, whores and don't contribute to civilization etc.>>70686>So living in a society that actively advertises pedophilic tendencies as desirable - absolute hairlessness (which wasn't a thing before the razor, and no one gave a shit), as skinny as possible (curvy women - not obese - have always been considered attractive in art, and still are in real life)
Those "tastes" evolve bi-directional imho. We all undergo genetic mutations to make us different and to test out what works best in the current environment. It's hard to say what came first - the food industry works the same way. We haven't been trained to eat sugary fat junk, it just slowly shifted to what makes the most money (about 40% fat + 60% sugar).
Also, hairlessness isn't something new. We didn't become one of the most hairless mammals on land by accident. Must have been preferred for some time. Greeks and Romans (and I believe Egyptians?) had tendencies to remove hair with tar.
I believe such degenerate behavior as we see today has always come to surface with high societies and 'advanced' civilizations for some reason.
So what's the point in being with a man when you know that he would fuck a 13 year old if he could? Another reason to give up men. I wouldn't be able to forget about it.
Not the same thing, dumb scrote.
And I wouldn't want to be with someone who even thinks about fucking kids, even if he can control himself.
Is it fair to put hairlessness and photoshopped skin, both of which are unnatural, in the same category as skinny bods?
Whoa whoa whoa, hold on now. That's completely different.
Are you really implying there are more 5 year olds being raped than 22 year olds? >Canada
Ok, never mind
Yeah learning the age of consent in states like Delaware only 100 years ago was 7 years old was disgusting. Girls back then started puberty even later, it was pure pedophilia. Fuck men, seriously.
I’m 100% convinced the only reason men made laws against pedophilia and rape is because they didn’t like the idea of the women who were their PROPERTY (aka their wives, daughters and sisters) being raped or molested by an older creep. But its hypocrisy because all men would rape if they could get away with it. They just don’t like the idea of other dudes raping their property.
But I still think men are 100% okay with fucking underage girls. In school I remember tons of 12-15 year old girls had boyfriends in their 20s and 30s. Looking back on it, it was disgusting that nobody stopped it. And of course a lot of these girls grew up to regret it, realising they had been groomed and brainwashed and such by creepy manchildren looking to make up for lost time.
I'm not into shotacon, stop projecting.
99.9% of mentally intact girls don’t fuck dogs, and the fact that incels actually believe this and think the ‘dogpill’ is a legit phenomenon and avoid women because of it is so hilarious to me.
There are definitely more prepubescent children who get molested and raped than teens. It’s way easier to rape or molest a kid, many of them can’t even vocalise what happened to them, it gets massively underreported because the child molestors scare their victims into not reporting it, or the kid thinks it’s ‘normal’.
Yeah I learned this the hard way. I found an account on a manosphere board belonging to my oh-so-sweet-timid-shy-nice-guy boyfriend, I saw hundreds of posts of him talking about fantasizing about raping teens, talking how the age of consent needs to be lowered, drooling over ‘jailbaits’ and such. I was disgusted and immediately cut him out of my life, but the sad thing is I think all men have these thoughts. I really think men should be chemically castrated after they hit puberty, male sex drive is a pathogen.
A recent study found that the most popular age for women on dating sites was 18, i.e. the lowest age allowed. Judging by how steep that graph line is the real peak is well below the age of 20.
Thank you for making me throw up my breakfast anon
I'm curious what the graph would look like for gays and lesbians? gay men seem all over the place when it comes to preferences and lord knows there are some creepy groomers in the lesbian communities but women seem to be attracted to partners their own age mostly so i don't know
Aw, I used to think this was a cute moment where he was showing the kid something on his phone. Now I feel queasy…
The fuck is Dogpile? Those pics make me afraid to Google it.