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THERAPISTS ARE SHIT Anonymous 120688

A lot of therapists are unbearable interpersonally. They learn how to manipulate people by choosing their words carefully when they're in school and completely lose the ability to communicate genuinely with other people.

For most people this isn't a problem, but as someone who knows a lot of therapists, it makes it harder to make friends with them. Out of roughly 20 therapists I regularly communicate with, only 2-3 are capable of communicating without using therapeutic techniques. If I say "I'm going on a date and I'm worried it'll go well and I'll have to make lifestyle changes" these people say "sounds like you're worried about what comes next". No fucking shit, dude. You're supposed to laugh with me about it and say "it'll probably be fine" or something

Most therapists are awful at their job. In this training I was in yesterday, the trainer told the group that asking questions in therapy does not help the client. You're just supposed to manipulate, sorry, motivate them into completing their goals by reflecting stuff they say back to them (but only the stuff you like). Mental health trainings are so funny. Everyone just talks about the most effective ways to manipulate people but if you use the word manipulation everyone will scold you.

Most therapists come from wealthy backgrounds, don't have addiction or trauma experiences, and had the resources growing up to learn coping mechanisms to help them live with their extreme neuroticism. I worked with a lady once, we were doing adolescent substance abuse group treatment, and she would get mad and basically ground the clients for misbehaving. Like she was their mother. She believed her role was to "get them in line". She was afraid of drugs after doing pot once.

Another dude i worked with told me this client was "externalizing" and upset because of his divorce. But the client was actually schizophrenic and actively psychotic, but the clinician believed he was "faking" his delusions "to mess with" him. One clinician stopped seeing a client because the client didn't bathe, even though the client was seeing them for depression for which one of the symptoms was not being able to take care of themselves.

Therapists are deeply self righteous individuals and most of them are crap. People usually see 3-4 therapists before they find one they connect with well and feel cared for by. Therapy can be very helpful to you if you are lucky or if you have the time to shop around for a good one, or if you can get a referral from someone you trust. But there are a lot of absolute shitters out there. It's a minefield.

Anonymous 120716

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>>120688
Glad I'm not the only one blackpilled on therapy. It's a bit of a grift, isn't it? I've been through all this in a feels thread before, but it bears repeating: most of our trauma in meaningless. Not that it doesn't affect us, but there's nothing to learn from dissecting it. You cannot 'get to the bottom of it all,' and you shouldn't bother trying, because there is no bottom. Our suffering is absurd, in the Camusian sense. You're gonna have to live and let live. Compartmentalize. Cry when it's appropriate, then bottle it back up and do what you need to do.

It does actually make sense to me that CBT and repeating shit back to people are all that therapists care about. Because for the most part, we know what we SHOULD do; we just can't motivate ourselves to do it. The secret, of course, is that trying to find motivation in the traditional sense of mind->body is for chumps. Mind and body are coupled, like electricity and magnetism. You don't have to logic your way into doing something you don't want to do. Just do the thing, and the mental state follows. That's all CBT is, and it's all that matters for people who really need therapy (because they're trying to fix their mind and they can't).

Ironically, that's not even what most therapygoers are looking for. They just want commiseration, like you were hoping to get from your therapist friends (who, btw, I agree are often clueless, insufferable, sheltered, naive fucks who shouldn't be giving ANY advice to ANYBODY with real problems. I have an old 'friend' who's had 3 failed marriages and wants to be a COUPLES' THERAPIST?!?!?!?). We've become so obsessed with 'self care.' What does that even mean, shlicking in the bathtub with some scented candles? How about 'other care?' And I don't mean picking up the caregiving slack left by useless moids–I mean making actual friends and looking out for each other. Caring about others enough to talk about something real. I hate what social media has done to my generation of people, who grew up online and for whom everything sincere is cringe. We construct fake personas and then literally PRETEND TO BE MENTALLY ILL so that we can pay these near-do-well shiesters to nod along instead of forming any true bonds. Well actually, not everybody's pretending. Some are brainwashed, and some others really do need help, but I just hate this culture so much. People desperate for community, and grifters like betterhelp all too happy to take advantage.

Anonymous 120722

>>120716
Good post but it's ne'er do-well shysters

Anonymous 120723

>>120688
The hint is right in the name.
THE-RAPIST.
If you wanna get gaslighted into destroying your own relationships they're perfect.

Anonymous 120724

Got forced to do therapy as a teen, I actually went into it with an open mind but it was such a complete joke it permanently turned me off therapy as a concept.

Anonymous 120753

>>120688
The real cancer are psychiatrists. Wastes of lard the lot of them. they don't communicate. And they're not real medical practitioners. They hear a list of symptoms. they cluster them together and try to categorize, and then they prescribe 10migs of blowuplikeafuckingballoon-titis. And then they don't waste 20 minutes on your case, even though you're shelling out a kidney's worth to be in their presense. And they continuously gaslight you into thinking the diabetes in a pill you're taking to manage the mental midgetry does NOT have any side effects.



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