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sister being very dumb Anonymous 122857

every day i learn more that my younger sister is insane lmao, she constantly exaggerates our home life on reddit and makes it sound like we're being abused by our parents. she almost fell for what was possibly a trafficking scheme related to getting her to run away and STILL hasn't learned her lesson

she's nineteen, by the way. and apparently also thinks she's a trans boy despite being much more feminine than me. i'd fuck up my relationship with her forever if i told our parents but i just want her to not do any stupid shit. it feels like there's nothing i CAN do though, i wouldn't want to be 'unsupportive' since i don't share her delusions

Anonymous 122861

>she constantly exaggerates our home life on reddit and makes it sound like we're being abused by our parents.
how so? what does she say?

I'm gonna cut straight to the point and say one possible reason she is nuts and retarded probably is her family, and this is the one thing she's right about. I mean look at you OP, you're losing your shit over her just venting about stuff online lol. You are both crazy.

Anonymous 122864

>>122861
the only reason i give a fuck is because she almost became a missing person dude. not gonna go into details but her desperation to get away from a middle to upper class life in which we are not abused almost led her to falling for a trafficking scheme.

i'm shit with talking feelings i don't wanna have a conversation about this with her. but she's demonstrated that she's WILLING to do something stupid

Anonymous 122867

>>122864
>>122861
>>122860

send discord servers

Anonymous 122940

are you asking for genuine advice or similar experiences??

honestly yeah your sister sounds awful but you’re related so on a biological basis, you’re likely to be awful as well. first off, how did you find her reddit? you don’t seem to be on good terms so it sounds like you’re going nuts stalking her on places like r/raisedbynarcissists when all of you sound like narcs. you make her out to be weird for being a tif but your text sounds off. why call her a “trans boy” (without the quotations too)? and comparing the both of your “gender presentations-“ “despite being much more feminine than me,” sounds like you’re trying to one-up her in trooning out. it kinda reminds me of competitive edtwt 14 year olds.

i’m not trying to be mean or anything but i think the both of us can tell you still somewhat care about her- otherwise you wouldn’t be worried for her health specifically (“ the only reason i give a fuck is because she almost became a missing person dude.”) she may be a full-grown adult but even old people need parenting. just be nice to her and maybe she’ll grow out of it. if she’s been through a lot to explain her behaviour, it would be more difficult though.

if you want to be mean, you could encourage her to undergo troon surgeries. it might be hard but probably worthwhile as she’ll regret it and fall into deeper attention-seeking, irrational behaviours. i doubt you’d take this route though as you don’t seem to want to abuse her. if you know you want to help her then help her.

Anonymous 122945

>>122940
I was also curious about lying about the abuse bit. Sounds like the "active imagination" or "playing victim" excuse people use to dismiss complaints from their kids or whatever lmao.

Anonymous 122946

But btw, one potential solution that may work is redirecting your sister's attention to some other behavior. That's how they generally deal with challenging behaviors in training humans or dogs and it's generally considered the best approach because it keeps your relationship healthy and non abusive. But for that you need to have some sort of leverage over her.

Anonymous 122951

Why are you so intent on speaking down to/talking negatively about your sister? Of course she feels like she's being abused.

If she wants to run away, it's probably because her homelifes a nightmare. Just because you're comfortable with your homelife doesn't mean she is.

And for the love of god don't "parent" your younger sister. I'll be honest, I think older sisters acting like "parents" to their younger sisters, unless they literally are orphans is pure cruelty

Anonymous 122952

You need to beat your sister. But also she's 19, if she wants to get spirited away that's her business

Anonymous 122955

Okay, it's kind of creepy how ops like "my sisters deluded she thinks she's being abused" while half of the comments are encouraging op to abuse her, and enabling her to dismiss her sisters feelings, struggles and self worth.

If you give your sibling the "unhinged wild child" treatment you are helping break them down, and if she has the ability to rise up from your abuse, then I support her.

Anonymous 122956

>>122861
seconding this. nobody from a semi normal home does the whole trans thing

Anonymous 122958

>>122940
>>122945

i really don't want to go into detail about my home life but tldr we're homeschoolers and we're not allowed to leave our home as a 'house rule'. there's no physical abuse going on, most is dismissal of feelings on our kind of gilded cage confinement. i won't say that's not screwed up, i won't say she has no right to complain, the only reason i'm saying anything at all is because i'm scared she's gonna do something drastic. i do not contribute to this home life, it sure wasn't my idea, i wanna be free too

even though she's younger than me i've always been kind of the submissive one between us. i realized i was being a moron when i realized she almost got me to run away with her to a shady scenario. also the only reason i mentioned her being girlier than me is because she literally wears the frilliest shit and has cute sanrio plushies. the idea of her trooning makes me physially ill because of the body mutilation. i feel like i have no one to talk to about this so here i am on cc

Anonymous 122959

>>122958

i wasn't trying to entirely invalidate her feelings and i'm sorry if it comes off that way but she straight up makes up shit that never happened for updoots. and if she thinks she is tif then she's pretty good at rejecting reality, so i don't want it to spiral into her thinking we're actually in a dangerous living situation and a fucking women's shelter would be better

you can make whatever guesses you want about the situation, i guess i asked for that when i posted on the internet. i'll probably just end up doing nothing about it anyway bc i'm not supposed to know this shit to begin with. i am stalking her on reddit yes but it's because i'm terrified she's gonna bolt at midnight and i'll never see her again

Anonymous 122960

>>122946
not OP but do you have ideas of what sorts of things could help redirect her attention?

Anonymous 122961

have you asked her why she wants to be a boy

Anonymous 122984

>>122951
And a homelife is nightmarish enough that it would warrant taking the risk getting traficked and raped? Or gettin mutilated and living a life long delusion, needing to take meds all her life?
Little sister sounds like she's being groomed by online predators I dont thin her sister being a bit protective is the issue here.

Anonymous 123062

safgasfgasg

Anonymous 123063

>>122955

Nona no, her sister probably is mentally ill.

What op nona has to do, is to tell her sister and mom that the girl is MENTALLY ILL.

Transgenderism is a mental illness.

It is not abusive to care for your mentally ill siblings.

Autism is a condition, and if the girl is autistic, then, perhaps she needs treatment an a proper treatment.

>>122961
not nona op, but she probably wants to be a man due to->
corn addiction.
Mysoginia.

Not "internalized" mysoginia, it is not "internal" it is directly manifested on the fact she might think she has to be a man to be "free" or to have actual human rights. She might not say it. Yet she shows it off with her actions and her mental illness.

Other stuff, well, she might also struggle with autism or other conditions of the mind.

It could even be a lack of a proper maternal figure and fraternal figure.

Some women grow up without a father or a mother loving them, and grow up thinking "maybe being a man will make my dad/mom love me" and think being a woman "liking girly stuff" will make them less vulnerable to stuff as well (as externalized hatred towards being a female)

it also can be by grooming and evolving into one of the things mentioned.

Anonymous 123067

>>123063
>It is not abusive to care for your mentally ill siblings.
the care in question: forceful institutionalizing into some conversion camp or heavy sedative mrds

Anonymous 123086

>>122958
>we're homeschoolers and we're not allowed to leave our home as a 'house rule'

Is this a cult disguised as homeschooling? Not being allowed to leave a place is unlawful confinement, false imprisonment, or something similar, Idk Im not a lawyer. Like it or not, your sister is right, about that anyway, if someone is not "allowed" to leave their home, it is abuse. Abuse is not always physical or sexual, but includes verbal, psychological, financial abuse, anything to break down a person or condition them in some way to easily control them. Shes 19, is not a prisoner, and while its good that you helped prevent her from possibly being trafficked, she has every right to leave a place if she wants. How did you know she almost got trafficked? Were there any identifiable group names or anything?

Similar to an accident, everyone can witness the same event, but often tell it or remember it differently. Maybe that explains why you dont see a certain event as abusive, but she does. A lot of abuse victims are invalidated, gaslit, dismissed, when they try to call out or make sense of what happened to/around them. A lot of people dont get what it feels like, until a similar situation happens to them. Its a coping mechanism, like, this loved one isnt abusive, because that would mean other ugly truths that would have to be faced, too. Or a cover for other abusive behaviors done by the dismissives. Is your sister the black sheep of the family? Maybe you dont mean to be that way, but your writing about her makes it sound like she is often invalidated when she expresses how she really feels.

If whoever influencing your sister encourages her to permanently mutilate herself, that might lead to suicide, due to regret or disappointment that it didnt fix whatever she seeks to fix ie self worth, as some others have done. But banning a behavior might entice someone to do it more, so you want to plant seeds of doubt. Have you asked why she thinks she wants to be a male? Have you explained to her that sex chromosomes can never change? That it is okay to be a woman? What are the side effects of hormonal body altering drugs, or surgeries, and what will she do if she experiences said side effects? Or ask her to at least wait a while before making a permanent decision, and by then she hopefully wont go that route. Logical, nonjudgmental, and unbiased questions like that might get her to consider a healthier path. Dont ask her this, ask yourself, do males get treated better in the family, and if so, maybe she seeks validation and love that way? Not sure if this applies to this case, but some women who were sexually abused tie their sex to their abuse, so they want to escape their body by mutilating their body/taking body altering drugs. You could find before/after pics of whatever surgeries she thinks she wants, gone wrong, to give her a sense of reality. Also is there someone grooming her to think this way?

If you rightfully tie disgust or disdain with maleness, that might wake her up into realizing that no woman should ever want to be one of those disgusting, filthy, parasitical, wastes of space that constitute way too many of the XY-chromosomed. You could find stats demonstrating how the male sex is inferior, the vast majority of crimes are committed by men, ie bestiality, human trafficking, forever chemicals, war crimes, etc. Point and laugh at videos of men having testerical meltdowns to the point they cant even drive without being aggressive, to assuage their ego if someone passes them, ye claim to be the logical and unemotional sex, and compare that to womens safe driving, as an example. Yes there are women who do wrong too, and rare men who do something positive, but its a fact that XYs contribute to the vast majority of the worlds problems.

I think your sister is just trying to make sense of her experiences. Her views could or could not change at some point in the future. So as much as you might disagree with her, please listen to her concerns with patience, and nonjudgmental openmindedness. It sounds like she needs someone like that, who she can trust. Maybe thats why she turned to reddit, and almost ran away.

Not sure, but it doesnt sound like a good idea to tell mom about this. If your sister is reliant on her for food and shelter or even just emotional support, shes in a very vulnerable position in this power dynamic, esp if she is not "allowed" to leave. If you did, she will rightfully never trust you again, and it will irreparably damage your relationship. If you go the mental illness route, what will that do? She will likely be forcibly kidnapped into a probably abusive institute, separated from everyone and everything she ever knew, confined, medicated against her will with who knows what side effects, and still never trust you again. Will that help, or worsen, any possible mental illness? Theres a reason they used to do this to political dissenters in the USSR, as a form of torture. She doesnt deserve that for falling for a harmful trend of bodily mutilation. Some places might indulge her delusion, and give her meds/surgery to become like an XY, rendering all that trauma and betrayal as ineffective against preventing her from bodily mutilation.

This is an outsiders perspective, but it sounds like your sister is hurting, and she needs empathy, care, and love. Youre so lucky to have a sister. Some people only get moid siblings who hate having a sister, trashed her crib when she was born, because he only wanted a brother, so count your blessings haha.

Please teach your sister about stranger danger, red flags of men or anyone, online or offline. What does coercion or controlling behavior sound or look like, deescalation, how to get away, etc. Martial arts is always good to learn too.

Rather than drastically running away and risking trafficking, maybe its best to focus on building long term independence, ie income or career. Even volunteering to have a social network. If your sister went to school for a career path, she could live on campus. Maybe you both could live with friends or trusted family members. Or you could both save up money and live elsewhere together as roommates? Idk just brainstorming.

Anonymous 123091

>>123086
neat post with perspective (esp cults and false imprisonment), even if I disagree with some details

I don't think at this point OP is able to do much convincing towards her sisters trannyism or whatever, but I want to theorize on this a bit anyway.
You can't reason someone out of a problem they did not reason themselves into. Or at least not being aware why that person believes what they want to believe.
In this case, OP's sister believes becoming ftm will give her validation - notice how trannies and allies try to empathize with each other no matter what, something abusive homes never give.
It will also give her a way out from misogyny - same reason girls may become nonbinary. She might not even want to transition for all we know but instead she just likes the fantasy of escaping being looked down upon, forced to live a certain way etc.
Finally her only friends or people she talks to may be trannies or some lgbt thing and that obviously changes how people see the world - in fact if she got chuddy friends she may change her mind.
Basically people become trannies as a solution to emotional problem IMO.

I don't think unnecessarily fear or hate mongering is a good solution because that's just creating another emotional problem, but it may be a good idea towards someone who is already causing her grief like an abusive dad/authority figure or something. That could work well yeah.

Anonymous 123094

wanted to apologize for how i worded the original post, since the more i look at it the more bitchy i realize i sound. i was pissed at the time because i couldn't fathom why someone would voluntarily want to mutilate themselves to be a shitty imitation of a moid, let alone my own sister. i don't hate her, i don't wanna hurt her, i just feel really helpless right now especially since any therapists to go to will probably encourage surgeries.

she says a lot of her friends are he/him's so i'm worried that's part of the problem. like she's already surrounded by cultists so it was only a matter of time before she got sucked in. but it's not like i can tell her 'stop having friends' when she only has online due to our isolation.

i know we should be able to leave, i know that very well but we're so close to having independence anyway. gonna starts on my bachelor's this fall. i don't think it's worth it to try and bail at this stage.

i was born ready to rant about moids and i think i could frame it as woke and stuff so she'll listen. she most likely did not decide she was tif from observing actual men or she'd never make that decisions, it's because she thinks she can be like the anime boys she likes

Anonymous 123095

>>123091
i used to have bad internalized misogyny, and if i were more chronically online at that time i probably would've fallen for the meme too. it's so fucking sad whenever this happens to girls.

need good non-hugbox resources about what ftm 'transitioning' does to your body. not for fearmongering purposes i just need her to know the reality and trannies making twitter threads

Anonymous 123096


Anonymous 123097

>>123094
It's a very difficult situation to handle OP and you deserve lots of support. It's ok if you were pissed.

Has she talked about wanting to go to a therapist?



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