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Are men evolving to a sociopathic hivemind? Anonymous 123286
This is a genuine question, because I can't fathom any other reasoning. Courting is dead, it's gone. In no particular order the following occurs: love bombing, ghosting, mirroring, hot/cold method. Even my friends who fit the patriarchal male gaze to an absolute T (virgin, quiet, submissive) are getting stepped on. It seems like all or nothing, there is no slow progressional vetting before a clear decision is made. Many other girls around me in my career and academia have given up on the idea of marriage and children. The ones that haven't tend to have a man-child tier boyfriend or they're accepting to be chronically cheated on.
The ideology that women have to be top 1% of females to deserve a male counterpart that doesn't wreck havoc on livelihood and minds is insane. I've talked to many boomers and they agree something is universally wrong; we are no longer just homemakers, but we have the ability to be that and MUCH MUCH more, how are we all fundamentally somehow "never enough" for them?
Anonymous 123287
>Even my friends who fit the patriarchal male gaze to an absolute T (virgin, quiet, submissive) are getting stepped on.
They have always been the first to get stepped on. That's why it's the patriarchal ideal lol.
Don't have an opinion on your actual question though.
Anonymous 123288
>>123286>In no particular order the following occurs: love bombing, ghosting, mirroring, hot/cold method.holy shit, youre right. oh well, i just use men for money ive given up on love kek
Anonymous 123289
>>123288I cant bring myself to do this cus I imagine they'll be even more angrier than normal if you dont give them what they want asap
Anonymous 123291
>>123289some men associate their ability to provide so closely with their masculinity that they'll be overtly generous just from receiving non-sexual female attention. at least this is how my last relationship went down. though he did admit he got sexually aroused from sending me money. but love? unless a guy has been properly vetted just assume hes subhuman trash who doesnt deserve love.
i know some women who are in happy marriages/relationships where they barely have any complaints and whats funny is that they arent top tier stacies either, one of them is fat
Anonymous 123293
capitalism has commodified everything.
Generally society tends to improve itself… If you look for a relentless force that eats everything with no stoppage, there is only capitalism. Emotion and being are not subjects of philosophies anymore, it's a commodity for self care books and online formations.
Sex is no more the creative bond of two beings, original and emergent of the specifics of the people involved, it's a consumer media through porn, and a way to obtain social status and dopamine…
Everything is atomized and packaged into boxes of premade meaning, no place for art, singularity, subversion in a discourse commanded by box-making algorithms…
Death of the specific and alive. Except if you join the little isslaand of "anarchists", people who are worthless in the productive society, and live as vacationers, their own. Diogenes might have been too idealistic and ascetic, but he is very close to authenticity. We might look into his followers, Crates, Hipparchia, the fart man metrocles, etc…
Anonymous 123306
>>123301
you are as sociopathic as the chads you are jealous of so much, except you're too developmentally retarded to be useful to anyone as a bf. your only use is being a potential submissive boytoy to a top nona to be played with and dumped.
Anonymous 123344
>In no particular order the following occurs: love bombing, ghosting, mirroring, hot/cold method.
it makes me feel considerably less alienated to know I'm not alone in this.
Anonymous 123354
,>>123344
>In no particular order the following occurs: love bombing, ghosting, mirroring, hot/cold method.
as a failed woman that no man has ever approached in her life, can someone please explain this to me?
Anonymous 123385
Everything is worse for young people now. When things get worse for young men they form packs and take what they want. A short novel about this is KD rebel, written by David Lane. the story is 1/6 terrorism, 2/6 odinism and white nationalism, and 3/6 instructions on how to be a serial predator in the apocalypse with misogynistic rants and fanciful descriptions of community life for a man who spent years in solitary. He says things like "Future awaits the sociopathic Ubermensch" and "I want them to be aexuak predetors."
Lane's personal motivation for his ideology was "because the beauty of the white Aryan woman must not perish from the earth".
Anonymous 124023
>>123286Historically men were forced into marriage by their families due to an indiscretion (got someone pregnant) or just to get him out of the way.
Most men when given the choice choose not to marry, they are happy to go from hook up to hook up.
Simply put, society was forcing men to act honorably now that the old system has been uprooted they have no more reason to do so. In this context i think it makes perfect sense that most women will simply die childless and unmarried.
Anonymous 124026
As someone that's never been in a relationship and recently been wanting to be in one, reading this thread made me think that being eternally single maybe is a blessing in disguise, after all.
If the current landscape is this shit then maybe it's not worth participating in it at all.
Anonymous 124028
>>124023This
Society was funnily enough built up to also defend women against stuff like this back then
Anonymous 124032
Dating apps ruined dating and courtship by taking normal human connections and replacing it with an online market place. Moids swipe on everything regardless of the match quality, which also ruins the matchmaking system.
Side note: Universal screen addiction has degraded our communication as a species. We aren’t supposed to communicate by exclusively by text, especially something like finding a mate. Texting doesn’t transmit tone, volume, inflection, accent, or visual cues like body language or eye contact.
Also porn has distorted and corrupted sexuality for the vast majority of moids.
Anonymous 124065
>>124064
"Yes this retarded comic strip will prove my point! I wonder why no woman has ever loved me"
Anonymous 124066
>>124064
Also this is fake you would NOT be interested in anyone who wasn't a virgin you puritan freak
Anonymous 124067
>>124065>>124066>Chad might pump and dump me, but YOU point out that Chad pumps and dumps me so that makes you even worse!!!lmao
Fine, refuse to learn. Keep repeating the same mistakes, and keep getting pumped and dumped in the exact same way.
Anonymous 124068
>>124067It's not you "pointing out" that makes you a piece of shit. It's how you go after women for being with shitty men when you'd never come close to doing the same thing to a man. Never in your life will you see a guy getting judged for dating a gold digger, she's always the one that gets all the shit. But women get caught in a toxic relationship and don't even think of blaming the actual shitty man for a minute.
>"pump and dump"You think of women as commodities to be used yet think you belong to the "good men". If you ever kys livestream it so I can have a laugh.
Anonymous 124069
>>124068>Never in your life will you see a guy getting judged for dating a gold diggerMaybe you just don't read the right places.
Anonymous 124070
>>124064
>stop dating attractive men
Anonymous 124077
>>124068People make fun of those men all the time though.
Prime example is Jeff Bezos atm. Everyone knows what's up and isn't hesitating to mock all of it.
Anonymous 124084
>I got burned dating someone who sucks
>EVERYONE is like this
WTF WHY AM I NOT HAPPY WHEN I HAVE ALREADY WRITTEN OFF THE ENTIRE WORLD!
Anonymous 124087
>>124083
>fucking chad
>ever a bad thing
Anonymous 124088
>>124083
This is all the more reason to never give sub-par moids a chance. Chads pump and dump because they can. The only reason that nice nerdy guy doesn't do the same is because woman won't let them. The second he gets enough resources together, he's going to cheat with a hooker or fuck off to Thailand. Moids idolize pimps and man-whores because they live the life they want. Don't believe me? Take a look at Andrew Tate or Hough Hefner.
Tldr don't be scared to fuck handsome, muscular CHADS
Anonymous 124089
>>124077No one makes fun of trump for dating a gold digger, though.
Anonymous 124091
>>123286>When people have an effectively unlimited dating pool and casual sex is normalized, sex and relationships become increasingly cold and transactional and the basic standards of inter-personal intimate behavior change and/or vanish.It's not just a problem with men either, sadly enough. Between cheap and effective birth control and medical treatments for STDs, social atomization and increasingly relaxed sexual mores, women can and do reward this kind of behavior as much as men do - what is the incentive for delayed gratification when instant gratification is all of a tinder match away? This leads to a mutual increase in bitterness as women perceive men (even the ones who don't practice this lifestyle) as being cheaters and emotional cowards only interested in sex and men view women (ditto) as whores. And for the unstable or immature, these same factors make cheating and/or bailing on relationships trivial because the supply of easy sex remains.
And again: this basically didn't exist ~20 years ago. Smartphones changed everything and everyone is now suspect until proven otherwise.
Anonymous 124092
>>124091Tinder has, like, 8 million US users out of its 72 million young adult population. (many of them never using the app for real probably) People grossly overestimate how much of a grasp dating apps have on society for some reason. If anything zoomers are having sex less and less.
That said, I'm not sure OP stated where she meets her men, so maybe this is true for her.
Anonymous 124093
>>124092>If anything zoomers are having sex less and less.This is an observable fact, and in general, society is way less sexualized than 15, 20 years ago. People just percieve otherwise because it is easy to look at porn on your phone and because they grossly overestimate how many people use tinder, onlyfans and so on.
Anonymous 124094
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>>123286Men don't want you to be much much more. They want you to be their servant. They want to impregnate every woman they see (yes, all of them) and they want to keep 'the best' around as domestic servants.
99% of them can't do that, but they all get as close to that ideal as possible. You choose where on the scale of 'too much of a loser to pump and dump' and 'chad enough to pump and dump' you wanna land.
