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Are relationships with women more or less grueling? Anonymous 123408

Honestly being in love sounds terrible but i feel so empty inside its fucking insane, im insane! Its not like dating a woman would make every single problem go away when it comes to dating, but women are more sensitive in a good way! Not all but most. Is the doomed yuri stereyotype true?!? Thoughts?

Anonymous 123411

>>123408
>the doomed yuri stereotype
what is that?

Anonymous 123412

your life and relationships aren't dependent on an anime genre stereotype. stop thinking like that and grow up lol

Anonymous 123413

>>123408
im all for lesbianism but dating women genuinely makes me miserable idk why

Anonymous 123414

Low key if you only want romance to fill a void in your soul it will inevitably fail. I think you should focus on finding activities and interests that bring joy and purpose to your life first before searching for something artificial to make you feel whole.

Anonymous 123415

well I think with that motivation you'll probably be likelier to create a doomed yuri situation.
what happens when you will be forced to deal with the reality of who your partner is as a person and not just fulfillment of your emptiness? relationships require quite a bit of emotional maturity and stability

doesn't necessarily mean it's not worth trying, just something to keep in mind.

I think a some girls who go into wlw relationships don't realize this so this creates bad situations

Anonymous 123416

if you're not looking for a relationship with the intention of being a mutual thing, then don't.

You sound like you want to fulfill a need instead of perceive the other being in the relationship as something more than a partner to fill your emptiness, which indeed can create a doomed yuri situation

Anonymous 123419

Should go without saying that sexual deviancy is abominable.

Anonymous 123431

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>>123408
You tell me.

Anonymous 123433

>>123431
Straight or gay, men are less likely to initiate divorce simply because they tend to stay & cheat.

Anonymous 123435

>>123433
>This isn't our fault, it's mens! Men are shit, not like us women, we're perfect!

Thanks for demonstrating exactly why lesbian relationships almost always fail.

Most women go through life with the mindset that they are flawless and never at fault for anything, and should never have to admit they're wrong. Whenever they get into a fight, the other person is always wrong in their eyes and must apologize and make it up to her, absolutely never the other way around.

Now this works fine in a straight relationship, because men have been conditioned all their lives that this is just what dealing with women is like, and they have to put up with it if they don't want to be alone.

But what happens when two women try to get in a relationship instead? What happens when both partners are stubborn narcissists that both never admit they're wrong, and always expect the other person to give in, apologize and appease the other with favors and gifts first?

It leads to constant arguments, abuse and divorce.

By contrast, here's what it typical gay male relationship is like.
>I like you, and also want to fuck you.
>I also like you, and also want to fuck you too. Let's do that.
>Awesome bro!
>Hell yeah dude!

Direct, honest, and efficient. Men are naturally the giving partner in a straight relationship, so when two men get together, they're both givers and both strive to make the other happier. By contrast women are the natural takers in a relationship. When they try to date each other they just become angry and resentful at the other because each of them only wants to take from the other, and neither wants to give.

Anonymous 123436

>>123435
this is so funny because it's kind of backwards reasoning. there's a mountain of evidence to show that men aren't "giving" to their partners.

for example, in heterosexual relationships, men are expected to be lazy in the home. like, this is a age-old trope found in most movies/tv shows, especially those of the 2010's and older. men are portrayed as bumbling and less caring than their wives and this is supposed to be funny because its true.

Anonymous 123437

>>123436
I mean, you can rationalize it to make yourself the victim and men evil, but you can't change these objective facts.

Lesbian marriages have the highest rates of divorce.
Gay marriages have the lowest rate of divorce.
Straight marriages are in the middle.

Basically, the more women are involved in relationship, the more likely it is to fail.

You can sit and say
>Men aren't givers! Men are lazy and selfish and shit! Us women are the ones always doing all the work and all the giving, we're the victims! We are better than them!
And yet somehow they're the ones with the 75% divorce rate, and not the supposedly shitty lazy men. Funny how that works.

Anonymous 123438

not gonna argue with anyone, but tbh perhaps this isn't about giving-receiving, but moreso a fundamentally different approach towards relationships from either gender.
just because a relationship ended doesn't mean it's a failed one imo. the only standpoint from which it "fails" is it's bad when a family with a child separates. (altho i personally disagree with not marrying for life) in my opinion dysfunctional relationships are much more of a failure than the ones that ended and may have helped both actors emotionally in some way.
consider also that men are more socially disconnected than women, don't have any other emotionally intimate connections other than their partner, and here you have someone who will be very reluctant to leave.
but that's just a theory, a divorce theory.

Anonymous 123439

>>123438
Getting married is supposed to be a vow to stay together and support each other for the rest of your life.

If lesbian women are so frequently entering into lifetime vows, only to break them a few years later almost every time, that either shows women are stupid and short sighted, or that they're so insufferable that nobody can stand spending more than a few years living with one, not even another woman. Possibly both.


Meanwhile, all you can do to discredit gay marriage, despite it being far more statistically stable than lesbian marriage, is makeup excuses in your head based on absolutely nothing were you tell yourself that gay men are secretly all miserable in their relationships, but just don't get divorced for no good reason.

The fact that every single woman that tries to participate in this conversation, just keeps doubling down on their mindset of
>No! Women are perfect, we never do anything wrong! Men suck! Men are always at fault and always the problem, never us! Never me!
Just keeps showing more and more why lesbian marriages so rarely work. Because women don't compromise. Women don't self-reflect. Women only care about themselves.

Anonymous 123440

>>123439
sorry about that

Anonymous 123441

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>>123439
All this pro-marriage talk is just hypocrisy from moids on the internet, who like to parrot bullshit about women asking for divorce. Men stay in marriages out of cowardice and laziness, and they care very little about loyalty and respect for their spouse, actually.

Anonymous 123442

>>123441
this lmfao. men stay in marriages 9/10 because they don't really care. marriage is more of a burden for women than men, especially when kids are involved.

Anonymous 123443

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>>123442
Yes. They keep regurgitating moralistic discourse on the internet about marriage and conservatism, but men are completely incapable of having respect and consideration for their wives in the long term, so much so that if you watch docs about prostitution and pornography, you're always told that this kind of thing is always financed by married men.

Anonymous 123444

>>123441
>>123442
I think women might just be inherently miserable, spiteful creatures, who go through life determined to make everybody else unhappy too.

The concept of two gay men just enjoying each other's company and being content with staying together all their lives is totally alien to a woman's mind. A woman must always be inventing problems in her head to be upset about and start fights over. Hell even right now you can't help but project this onto men and make up problems about gay marriage because you can't accept that maybe men are actually just happy together, and women are the source of most misery in relationships (hence why relationships involving two women are so much more likely to fail than any other kind)

Anonymous 123445

>>123437
just kill yourself faggot. youre unloveable and undesirable and wont be missed

Anonymous 123446

>>123444
then why not get into a gay marriage, anon?

Anonymous 123447

>>123443
>but men are completely incapable of having respect and consideration for their wives in the long term

Maybe that's because women are just really insufferable and it's impossible for anyone to tolerate them long-term?
I mean, you keep trying to stick all the blame on men, but the entire starting point of this argument was the fact that lesbian marriages fail way more than any other kind of marriage.

If women are so respectful, why can't they respect each other?

Anonymous 123448

>>123447
men are more likely to cheat
https://discreetinvestigations.ca/infidelity-statistics-who-cheats-more-men-or-women/

gay marriages last longer because they both opnely cheat on eachother kek

Anonymous 123449

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>>123444
> I think women might just be inherently miserable, spiteful creatures, who go through life determined to make everybody else unhappy too.

Yes, because men do this to us all the time, with misogyny, violence, impossible beauty standards and stupid hypothetical rules of conservatism, we're just returning the favor, you're welcome

>The concept of two gay men just enjoying each other's company and being content with staying together all their lives is totally alien to a woman's mind


This is perfectly possible in a woman's mind, well, damn it, two moids can live in harmony and complete degeneration together, until the day they are discovered by the police for having abused a child together.

Anonymous 123450

>>123449
>This is perfectly possible in a woman's mind, well, damn it, two moids can live in harmony and complete degeneration together, until the day they are discovered by the police for having abused a child together.
lmao

Anonymous 123451

>>123450
if women are so insufferable why are you visiting this site thats female dominated? why are you engaging with us? truth is youre projecting how insufferable you are. youre desperate for female attention and you ragebait because thats the only way someone as undesirable as you get attention. now please add to the glorious male suicide rate

Anonymous 123452

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>>123447
Most moids have their heads buried in their own asses, paying no attention to anything, and living under the illusion of "I'm a simple creature" when in reality they're just ignoring the most important needs of their family members and disregarding their wives' requests.

Being a lazy bastard and pushing a failing marriage through isn't a sign of maturity; it's just cowardice.

Anonymous 123453

>>123452
>in reality they're just ignoring the most important needs of their family members and disregarding their wives' requests

Then why do 75% of lesbian marriages end in divorce? Why aren't the wives paying attention to each other's requests?

Doesn't that prove that women are actually the ones who don't care about their partners needs or desires?


Like, do any of you even hear yourself when you talk? You're literally at the point where you're so hysterical, you're all trying to argue that a marriage ending in divorce is actually proof that it was a success, and the people involved are great partners, and that somehow a marriage lasting for life means the partners are lazy and abusive.

Your brains operate on literal topsy turbie logic. You'll say any ridiculous crap just to avoid admitting you're at fault for anything.

Anonymous 123454

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>>123449
>because men do this to us all the time, with misogyny, violence, impossible beauty standards and stupid hypothetical rules of conservatism

Wow, when you put it that way men sure do sound awful!

Oh hey I know, why don't you just cut men out of the equation altogether! Why don't women all just start dating and marrying other women! Since men are such awful partners, women I'll be great partners. So if women just dated other women, they'll have nothing but happy successful long-lasting relationships!

Oh wait…

Anonymous 123455

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>>123453
Dude, your source is literally a random screenshot that you probably downloaded from Twitter, which, by the way, has already been used to death by any beta-basic who's into redpill or any other shit. You guys don't have the ability to create conclusive evidence for any of the nonsense you invent and basically rely on screenshots of imaginary graphs that came from 4-chan to argue.

>You're literally at the point where you're so hysterical


The only hysterical one here is you, begging for attention on a channel, and acting as if moids were angels who seriously care about their department store commercial families, as if they weren't completely incapable of fidelity or harboring any noble feelings for a spouse. Go back to Twitter to RT your tweets about Catholic bravado and femboys taking it in the ass, which is better for you.

Anonymous 123456

>>123454
now look up how common cheating is among gay marriages

Anonymous 123457

The problem with lesbian marriage is most of the women who do it aren't even lesbians. They're just bitter man-hating feminists who got so drunk on their own anti-mam Kool-Aid they managed to convince themselves that marrying a woman will solve all their problems and be a nice satisfying middle finger to their patriarchy Boogeyman.

Only to quickly discover that trying to be in a relationship with another woman is a thousand times worse than anything they'd ever experienced with men, and unlike before they're no longer able to conveniently blame it on the opposite sex, so the marriage just implodes as both women realize they hate each other.

Anonymous 123458

>>123457
lesbians sure make you seethe, its hilarious to see. you probably got dumped or rejected for a woman lmao. ive only ever been able to truly love women, men just arent worthy of love and they are well aware of this

Anonymous 123459

>divorce = good marriage, proof that both partners were considerate and respectful towards each other all the time
>lifelong marriage = bad marriage! proof that the partners are lazy and selfish and definitely cheating on each other all the time!



Man the retarded shit women will say to avoid having to experience even a single moment of self-reflection.

You just don't want to accept any of these obvious explanations, because it would mean you might have to reflect on your own relationship, and realize that YOU'RE the shitty partner. You're the selfish one who makes your boyfriend miserable, and he's the one who puts up with it and tries to make you happy anyways because he's the selfless one.

Lesbian relationships almost always fail because of course two selfish narcissists who only ever care about their own feelings and needs will just make each other miserable.
Gay relationships usual go pretty smoothly because men are the actual caring and generous sex.

Anonymous 123460

>>123459
In a 2011 U.S. study, about 59% of gay men reported having cheated on a partner, and 8% of lesbians—the lowest rate among studied groups—even lower than straight men (10%) and women (14%)

men are worthless filth and youre just proving that point, for every nona to see and even yourself. i hope every woman you meets hurts your feelings and makes you more suicidal than you already are you retarddd bwahah

Anonymous 123461

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>>123460
Moids are cowards and fucking weak, and only know how to project themselves. They think they're very loving, but they only stay in marriages out of laziness and convenience, and because they think women have to put up with cheating. Gay men have the worst male and female vices combined and duplicated; they only care about promicury and sexual mischief.

I, as I do not tolerate bad character, betrayal, lack of respect and lies, will certainly have children through IVF, as moids are not trustworthy, it is almost impossible to have a decent family with one of them.

Anonymous 123462

You can really understand all the different possible relationship dynamics by just looking at a simple dinner date example. Watch.

>man and woman go on a dinner date together

>man offers to pay for the check because he wants to impress his partner and make them happy
>woman accepts letting man pay for the check because she just wanted a free meal, her interest in the date entirely revolved around how much she benefited from it

>man and man go on dinner date

>both want to pay for the check because they both want to be helpful and make their partner happy whenever possible

>woman and woman go on a dinner date

>neither wants to pay the check, they both just wait passive aggressively expecting the other to take care of it, but neither budges or thinks they should have to compromise on their own desires for somebody else's sake

"The check" in this example can basically be considered a metaphor for any possible problem that can come up in a relationship. What ultimately matters is, that wind problems arise, a man tries to help his partner, whereas a woman expects her partner to help her. A man is selfless, a woman is selfish.

Put two men together and you have two selfless partners always trying to help and make the other happy. Put two women together and you have two selfish partners both trying to manipulate and take advantage of the other at every opportunity.

Anonymous 123463

damn this thread is 100% getting nuked by mods

Anonymous 123464

>>123461
lets hope you have a daughter <3 remember that the other MALDING MOID starts seething whenever women dont give him attention and thats why hes here. some woman prolly dumped or rejected him so hes resorting to lashing out as hes pathetic weak and lacks emotional control. the mods will ban him so just let him seethe in silence. have a good day nona

Anonymous 123465

>>123461
>but they only stay in marriages out of laziness and convenience
Or because they're actually just genuinely happy. Hard for the living embodiment of misery otherwise known as "a woman" to understand I'm sure, but I feel like this conversation isn't going anywhere.

But hey as long as you're talking to me I'd like to ask you a question. You keep harping on about men, and saying how staying in a marriage actually proves that they're bad partners.

But I would absolutely love to hear you answer why you think 75% of lesbian marriages and in divorce, and try to rationalize how that somehow proves that women make good partners.

Anonymous 123466

>>123465
>h-h-h-hey please answer me nona
>pleaseeeee…
>pleeeeeeeaaaaseee…. pretty please
>please or else ill cry

this is proof men never mean what they say kek, so much for women being the embodiment of misery yet youd LOVEEE to talk to nonas

Anonymous 123467

>>123466
That's correct!

Lesbian relationships almost always end in failure, because women are passive aggressive and unable to have open conversations in earnest!

Very creative you to answer with the demonstration of the problem instead of just explaining it.

Anonymous 123469

Ok but really though, why do lesbians get divorced so frequently?

Can anyone actually explain?

Anonymous 123470

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>>123462
Moids really think paying for a date is a great act of kindness, LMAO, pathetic. Wow, you really changed someone's life, best partner in the world, congratulations

>>123463
I hope not, because I like this kind of provocation, it's always great to see a brainless moid repeating talking points that he must have read from his twitter mutuals begging for women's attention here and thinking he's the king of argumentation with a print screen that he must have downloaded from some random 4chan thread

>>123465
"Staying" in a marriage doesn't mean shit. If a person doesn't truly work for the marriage, then they're not married. Moids rarely truly care or work for a marriage. They think that yellowed paper and empty words (almost all of them) are a great sign of honor and loyalty, while they continue to search for porn on their phone and have Tinder installed.

>>123467
>>123469
Your biggest piece of evidence for this random number is just a hacked print that a mutual on your xwitter account must have taken out of your ass.

Anonymous 123471

>>123469
think about it this way; why wouldnt gay men stay in a marriage?
your male partner could:
>cheat
>lie
>manipulate
>be verbally abusive
>mistreat you
but he's still helping you pay the bills, and you already cheat on him so you both turn a blind eye to it kek. its basically a glorified friends with benefits kind of situation. my ex actually dated a guy prior to me and he told me he fucking hated it because the other guy would be verbally abusive, my gay best friend from highschool would constantly tell me he wanted to kill himself because the guys he crushed on would cuck him with other WOMEN and just outright treat him like garbage

Anonymous 123472

>>123471
I was asking about lesbians.

Anonymous 123473

>>123471
you forgot to consider some important evidence nona, what about the average gay couple that tries to pay for each other's dinner that he takes as a source from his imagination? they're totally just as real as your life experience

Anonymous 123475

>>123472
because women dont want to use other women. if theres a problem that arises, they wont just cheat and seek momentary attention from other people to get their mind off things. theres your answer. a gay man will go "huh my bf made me feel awful today… time to go on GRINDR and fuck other men again!"
theres no "love" its basically just a friendship built on taking advantage of eachother. women have more integrity; less likely to lie, cheat, commit violent crime etc.

Anonymous 123476

>>123470
>Moids really think paying for a date is a great act of kindness, LMAO

It's more than a woman ever bothers to contribute.

Anonymous 123477

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>>123464
There are some moids who just spend all day on the internet repeating what the little moid there is saying, very predictable, sometimes it gets tiring because they literally always use the same prints of supposed "studies", always without the source, not even a link from where they dug it up

And it's always the same conversation, playing the victim, thinking they're a great person, that must be why they can't take it and end up killing themselves more often.

Anonymous 123478

>>123475
>women have more integrity; less likely to lie, cheat, commit violent crime etc

Then what's making them get divorced if they are so allegedly kind and respectful to each other at all times?

Anonymous 123479

>>123478
because a million other things can get in the way of a relationship, they might realize they have differnt goals or preferences in a relationship and dont want either party to have to "compromise" on what they want and would rather not make the other miserable. they basically have a more idealized version of love

Anonymous 123480

>>123479
Why would they agree to get into a lifetime relationship agreement without a basic understanding of each other's life goals or personalities? Are they stupid?

>And don't want either party to have to "compromise" on what they want

You're half right. Women certainly never want to compromise on what they want. But they absolutely want their partners to compromise on everything all the time, because a woman's interest in a relationship is always about herself and what benefits her the most. That's what makes it so difficult for two women to be in a relationship, because neither ever wants to compromise themselves, but constantly wants the other to compromise for her. A woman always wants to be selfish yet expect her partner to be selfless.

>They basically have a more idealized version of love


I suppose they do. But the part you're leaving out is that a woman's "idealized version of love" is more akin to a master and slave.

A woman expects her partner to sacrifice everything for her, will she has to sacrifice nothing in return.
A woman expects absolute obedience from her partner for everything she demands, but expects her partner to never demand anything in return..
A woman expects her partner to spend all of their life savings on her on a whim, but doesn't think she should ever have to spend a single penny on her partner if she doesn't feel like it.

This someone works when a woman dates a man, since men are conditioned their entire lives to believe that this is normal and acceptable. But when two women try to date each other it inevitably ends in failure, abuse and hatred.

Anonymous 123481

>>123480
>Why would they agree to get into a lifetime relationship agreement without a basic understanding of each other's life goals or personalities? Are they stupid?
being in love is being stupid. truth is that women want a partner whom theyre happy with, and they refuse to seek out other people to fulfill their needs. this is different from men and fags. if a gay man doesnt get his needs fulfilled by his partner, he will seek someone else, while a gay woman will leave her partner. i think the latter is more respectable than the former.

>A woman expects her partner to sacrifice everything for her, will she has to sacrifice nothing in return.

A woman expects absolute obedience from her partner for everything she demands, but expects her partner to never demand anything in return..
A woman expects her partner to spend all of their life savings on her on a whim, but doesn't think she should ever have to spend a single penny on her partner if she doesn't feel like it.

some of this is pure fanfiction and not backed up by any data. women are dominant you say? lol that goes against the mindless NPC 4scrote programming speak. and yeah women definitely want their partner to provide for them, but do you not think men want women to change diapers and clean the house? lol.
if women are so evil, why do you not just stop dating them? go date men and see how that turns out for ya. we wont care if you remove yourself from the dating pool. but i get the feeling you wont, youll keep talking to women, try to date us and look at porn. go 4B mgtow king

Anonymous 123482

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>>123480

People change, you retard. Most idiots are very limited and incapable of understanding the complexity of a relationship.
Women are the only people who truly sacrifice and work for relationships, and men are generally petty, demand submission (a complete form of disrespect). They isolate, belittle, and frequently cheat on their partners. They think everything's fine, and then they're impressed that the wife can't take it anymore and file for divorce.
If you think no woman in this world is good enough for you, all the power to you, hun. Marry that influencer redpill, whom you must have ctrl-c + ctrl-v'd from all this pseudo-intellectual bullshit that you said here, I hope he fucks your ass until you can't walk anymore. IVF already exists, and women can have real families, without neglect, betrayal, or lies from moids like you.

Anonymous 123483

>HMP findings somewhat parallel those found in the United States by Mize and Schackelford (2008), where the intimate partner homicide incident rate was highest for gay couples (63.72 per million per annum), followed by heterosexual couples (21.25 per million per annum), and lesbian couples (9.07 per million per annum).
Gay moids are so happy and respectful to each other they would rather kill each other than separate, kek

Anonymous 123484

>>123483
takes mental notes
danke nona

Anonymous 123485

>>123482
>Women are the only people who truly sacrifice and work for relationships
Women literally won't even split the bill after a coffee date, and you expect anyone to believe you sacrifice absolutely anything?

Anonymous 123486

>>123485
are you poor or some shit? holy shit i dated a guy from a top 0.1% family and he never complained abt this shit. man he WANTED to provide for me, and would get upset if i asked to split bills. only poor men talk this way

Anonymous 123487

>That gay couple has been married for 50 years? Wow they MUST absolutely hate each other! I bet it's just been 50 years of non-stop cheating and abuse and lying, because men are all so terrible! That's why they stayed together so long, because they hate each other!
>That lesbian couple got divorced after less than a year? Aww, that's so sweet! Just goes to prove what wonderful, caring compassionate people women are! That's why they immediately split up, because they were both such nice loving people!

This goes beyond cope. It's just straight up delusion now.

Anonymous 123488

>>123487
youve gotten data and statistics that show men are more likely to kill and cheat on eachother, youre the one coping. would you rather be cheated on or dumped? you sound like a cuck

Anonymous 123489

>>123485
If the poor guy needs to split the coffee bill, so he can later tell his friends on Twitter and his chan how he's not a beta or a simp, we do that charity, no probs, it's always good to contribute to the self-esteem of the underprivileged.

Anonymous 123490

>>123486
And what exactly did you sacrifice on these dates?

Anonymous 123491

>>123490
ask him dumbass, he REFUSED to let me pay for shit. do you not think i offered? when men obsess over women they throw tons of money at them unprompted

Anonymous 123492

>>123491
This is a very strange conversation. You started it by claiming that women are the only one that sacrificing relationships, yet you've done nothing but brag and laugh about the fact that you apparently don't ever sacrifice anything in relationships.

Anonymous 123493

>>123492
well according to him i gave him everything he could ever want and he was very happy to be with me. he didnt WANT me to pay, he found it unattractive. youve seriously never been around rich guys

Anonymous 123494

>>123492
Getting off your ass and going on a date with some poor, desperate girl with nothing better to do shouldn't be a sacrifice at all. She'll have to listen to your random rants from a self-important intellectualoid moid, everyone carries their own cross.

Anonymous 123495

>>123488
>>123488
The difference is that 75% of all lesbian marriages end in divorce. What percentage of gay marriages end in murder? A gay man getting murdered is a statistical anomaly. A lesbian getting divorced is virtually guaranteed.

Also you say a gay men are "more likely" to cheat but you don't actually provide the numbers or sources, and act like just because the number is higher it means lesbians never cheat at all.

Your whole argument has just been trying to wildly distort or just make up bad things about gay couples while just completely ignoring everything wrong with lesbian couples, and then pretending it proves men are terrible and women are perfect. News flash, if women were so perfect, they wouldn't absolutely hate being married to each other.

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Anonymous 123498

>women claim they are the ONLY ONES who sacrifice in relationships
>ask for a single example of one thing any of them have ever sacrificed for their partner
>Not a single woman can answer, instead they all just start deflecting and trying to insult me


All right well thanks for admitting what you said was a lie, a woman will never sacrifice anything for the sake of another person.

It's exactly like I said from the beginning, men make selfless partners, women make selfish partners. I don't even understand why you all got so angry over me saying that if you were just going to admit it's completely true.

Anonymous 123499

>>123498
my nigel was into hardcore femdom, if you dislike it, take it up with him retard. he will also admit im a better person than him, which i am. but dont pretend like rich men dont love to buy everything for their partners

Anonymous 123500

christ what a baby

Anonymous 123501

>>123499
Does it make you proud to know you're basically just a prostitute who got sexually used by a guy whose dad had lots of money then dumped you the instant he was bored?

Anonymous 123502

I feel so bad for OP lmao

Anonymous 123503

>>123501
what made you think i
1. had sex with him
2. he dumped me
3. hes not trying to get back with me and still trying to give me money?

i will also make it known he was a young lawyer who made 200K, its just his daddy was way richer. but we never fucked

Anonymous 123504

>>123498
Honey, you must be an idle bum who sits in front of the computer all day. You probably don't know how much work a house and children entail. After all, you're absolutely useless. We girls have responsibilities to our homes, and in some cases, to younger siblings, so we know that taking care of a house isn't easy. There's work every day, it's the same every day, and it's not that easy. Cleaning the house, preparing food, washing and ironing clothes, being patient, etc., caring for the well-being of a family is a daily task. But since you guys only spend your time playing Vidya and watching anime, you'd never understand. Now go listen to your masculinist podcast and find a man for yourself on Grindr.

Anonymous 123505

>>123502
I'm sure she got a lot of important data on whether she should engage in a lesbian relationship.

Anonymous 123506

>>123505
I hope she gets into one. Honestly I do.

Then she can experience firsthand how awful women are as partners.

Anonymous 123507

>>123501
why are you still here. Do you enjoy being berated by women? Is it the only way you can feel anything? I bet you do this cause you'd take any attention, even if it was negative.

Anonymous 123508

>>123506
So what's your story? You had a really bad gf or what?

Anonymous 123509

>>123506
Absolutely pathetic. I hope someday you learn statistics aren't useful when stripped of context and molded to fit your own agenda.

Anonymous 123510

>>123507
i want to berate poor moidlets like him

Anonymous 123511

>>123510
Sigh. Moids like him are made to be broken in.

Anonymous 123512

>>123511
he will lash out and ragebait women online but secretly gets hard at the idea of a woman making him her little bitch

Anonymous 123513

I want you all to engage in a little thought exercise.

I want you all to make a brief mental list of all the expectations you have in a man. All the standards you expect him to meet before you consider himself dating material. All the things you expect him to do to make you happy.






Got it? Okay great, now's here step two.
Imagine dating another woman, and imagine that SHE is going to hold YOU to all those standards and expectations that you just listed for others.
Just imagining it probably makes you say "what the hell that's so unreasonable and unfair I shouldn't be expected to have to do all that!". Congratulations, now you understand why lesbian relationships almost always feel. Because women fundamentally can't take what they give. Women can't live up to their own standards and expectations that they expect others to live up to. Or more accurately, women can't live up to the expectations of other women. You all get so used to going your whole lives holding men to impossible standards while being held to none yourselves that when you date another woman, an equal, you realize how useless and unbearable the other woman is. It's just a shame you can't realize that from her perspective, you're just as bad.

Anonymous 123515

>>123509
the 75% stat isn't even real, it's the misinterpreted percentage for the gender that initiates the divorce in same sex relationships lmao
the real stat is still fairly high, but not anywhere far off from the hetero stat (40-50%)

>>123512
tHIS IS SO TRUE
I think a lot of moid are covertly submissive but their culture doesn't let them show it
my male loves being pinned kek

Anonymous 123516

>>123513
so nonas lets all make guesses about him:
is he balding, short, ugly, poor or all of the above?

Anonymous 123517

>>123513
Tbh if men did this thought exercise they would realize they have space to improve as well. Nobody is going into a relationship expecting a perfect angel, unless they have little to no experience.

Anonymous 123518

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>>123513
Imagine being dumb enough to expect anything from a moid.

That's a lie, I do expect one thing. That they disappear.

Anonymous 123519

>>123515
>I think a lot of moid are covertly submissive but their culture doesn't let them show it
my male loves being pinned kek
thats so hot…

Anonymous 123520

>>123516
Short and poor but probably misinterprets being mid as being ugly, then makes his insecurities other people's problem.

Anonymous 123521

>>123518
>That they disappear.
But then you'd only have women left to date, and probably wind up killing yourself from how miserable it makes you to try and date others of your own sex.

Anonymous 123522

>>123512
Whenever i see this kind of guy in a thread/comment section i fantasize that hes paul danos riddler.

Anonymous 123523

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>>123521
Unfortunately, I'm straight. Most of the lesbians I've met have been too touchy-feely and clingy, I'm not interested.

I haven't died from a lack of penis yet, kek. In fact, I really want to live to be 99 so I can see the male suicide rate steadily increase.

Anonymous 123524

>>123517
What the typical man expects from a woman
>Don't be too fat
>Don't be too much of a crazy bitch

And still most women fail. Yet men are selfless enough to take care of them anyways.
A woman's list of expectations is about 500 times longer, and she will absolutely never do anything selfless for another person.

Anonymous 123525

>>123524
dont fucking lie you love crazy bitches lol. there are studies that show men prefer BPDemons over normal women

Anonymous 123527

>>123523
>I really want to live to be 99 so I can see the male suicide rate steadily increase.

You'll live to see western civilization collapse, Islam take over the world and women be stripped of all their rights world wide.

Anonymous 123528

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>>123527
I'm already being very consumerist and contributing a lot to global warming by increasing the release of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, to ensure that there will be nothing good left in this world for Allah's rats, and they will go hungry and suffer a lot in the drought and in the very polluted climate, kek

Anonymous 123529

>>123524
most also expect you to do all of the housework, while also cooking, while also having a job (unless ur a tradwife, but in this economy that isnt realistic,) while also having sex with them whenever, while also having their children, while also never experiencing the bodily changes that come with children and aging (unfortunately includes weight gain.)

>Not be a crazy bitch

And by crazy bitch they normally tend mean express any unhappiness for some of the mistreatment many dish out.

Anonymous 123530

>>123528
LMAO
>>123527
>not thinking AI will go crazy and kill every muslim lol

Anonymous 123531

>>123529
>expect you to do all of the housework, while also cooking, while also having a job
Women don't even do any of that any more.

For decades women have offered less and less well demanding more and more. You all had a chance to talk about what kind of things you sacrifice to prove you aren't entirely selfish people, and none of you could name a single thing. You just laughed and bragged about rich boys buying you presents with daddy's money (basically admitting to gold diggers in the process too)

Anonymous 123532

>>123524
Would like to add that most of the 'five hundred things' women expect are always just the bare minimum then something extra to show affection. I always see women doing everything in their power to please men who treat them terribly. Most of the women I've seen that are entitled only act that way after being treated poorly by men. Its almost always retaliation.

Anonymous 123533

>>123531
If you live under a fucking rock maybe

Anonymous 123534

>>123531
because nobody wants to tell personal life details to someone who just wants to weaponize them? same reason you were asked what women did to you to make you seethe so hard and you ignored the question

Anonymous 123535

>>123532
>. I always see women doing everything in their power to please men

Funny. If women were such natural people pleasers so determined to make their partner happy all the time, you'd think lesbian relationships would be the most stable and successful. After all, two people both trying their best to please the other would surely just get into a feedback loop where they just both try harder and harder to make the other happy the longer the relationship goes on, which manages to keep the relationship going for years and years and years, possibly their entire lives.


But oh wait, it's the exact opposite. Women who date other women hate it and their relationships almost all fail. Funnily enough it's gay men that have the kind of relationships I described above. Almost like men are the actual people pleasing sex, who are expected to do all the work in a relationship to make their partner happy, and women just narcissistically assume that they are the people pleasing sex because, well, women just naturally like to think good things about themselves and either never get told otherwise, or react with extreme hostility when they do get told otherwise (like this thread)

Anonymous 123536

>>123531
ONE person mentioned living that kind of lifestyle. One person is not the representative for all.

Anonymous 123537

>>123535
Did you ignore all the statistics about cheating and murder gay relationships experience kek

Anonymous 123538

>>123531
hey! I don't think all women are gold diggers but they should be. Men's personalities suck too much to date on that alone

Anonymous 123539

what would you girls choose?
>whiny misogynistic moid who is hypocritical and probably lies, cheats, manipulates, is untrustworthy etc. who cries about women having healthy standards
or
>rich guy who is into femdom and wants to spoil you and knows his place as a little bitch

Anonymous 123541

>>123538
>Men's personalities suck too much to date

Haha so true sister! We women all have such wonderful personalities, not like those stinky men. Hey I know, why don't we just stop dating them and start dating each other instead! Why I bet once every woman becomes lesbian we'll have way more healthy stable and long-term relationshi- oh right.

Anonymous 123542

>>123541
go date men instead of whining here retard. I want to see you come back after you been cheated on and gotten STDs kek. every gay guy I know has complained about how they were treated by other gay men. the lesbians I knew generally had nice things to say abt their exes

Anonymous 123543

>>123541
Honestly this is reaching the point where im not angry. I just feel bad for you. i hope someday you heal from whatever it is that makes you hate the concept of two women loving each other. I hope maybe someday you escape from this mindset that every woman is out to get you, or that they're selfish and evil. Idk. Even though you're obnoxious i want you to someday be happy.

Anonymous 123544

>>123543
>you to someday be happy.
he won't ever be kek



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