phone bad Anonymous 124395
i can't really care for things that happened after ~2008. 2008 was when the internet started to suck, i think that old meme is spot-on. when the internet was just for weird nerds, it was a wonderful friendly hopeful human place. now it is this monster trying to enslave humanity.
when i see an old movie, that time before the smartphone seems so precious, so wholesome, so real; for the most part human interaction was still based on mutual consent at that point.
now when i see some show and they put these text-bubbles on the screen trying to visualize the instant messages from the protagonists i just close whatever i am watching in disgust.
i just use a phone for listening to music and watching occasional news video, i would never ever use one of these new internet based services, i just hate being digital cattle; i know many of you don't mind. once i find something else to listen to music that i like, i might not even use a phone anymore.
when i see some old documentary from 2000-2008 i want to go back to that time. not because i was young, it's not that. you only care about when you live unhealthily. when you are healthy you don't really age. i know many of don't live healthy, you wouldn't understand. aging for the most part is made up. no it's because i miss just peaceful casual non-exploitative non-surveiled genuine human interaction in privacy.
Anonymous 124468
>>124395A lot of people share your feelings, but I think you all generally misunderstand the issue. There is nothing inherently problematic about things like instant messaging or the internet. The problems you see are purely a reflection of humanity. The underlying problems were there already; they just don't immediately manifest in "new" stuff.
Anonymous 124512
>>124395>>124468Imo a big part of it is that post smartphone the internet stopped being a "place". It used to be you couldn't take it with you very easily or cheaply. So once you were off early social media or forums you had a break and had to confront the real world.
Now you can always be voyuring for social media, always be easily distracted and always be a click away from whichever self reinforcement you prefer.
Anonymous 124514
>>124468>There is nothing inherently problematic about things like instant messaging or the internet.yes there is. if you understood the nuanced differences between early respectful/consensual/peaceful internet communication systems and the current, biased, infiltrated, automated, security-addicted, debt-based, disrespectful patronizing consumer-systems and the war that is happening behind the scenes you would not mention such ignorance.
plus you base what human nature is on everything that happened after the begin of agriculture a few thousand years ago. there is a timespan in the hundreds of thousands of years where the anatomical modern human climbed down the tree and survived without settlements. to speak of human nature without accounting for this time where things were different again to me is quite ignorant. makes me wonder if you are in the business of ignorance because amateurs usually don't exhibit such professional level of ignorance.
Anonymous 124866
>>124514>early respectful/consensual/peaceful internet communication systems and the currentAnon… the very fact that these two existed at all is proof of my point. I don't understand what you're disagreeing with me on.
Can you clarify your point on "human nature" or whatever? It's very unclear.
>>124512The reason it was a "place" to people like you is because you were a tourist. If you want to gawk at things or "explore" there are plenty of alternatives even now.
Anonymous 124959
Text messaging is the lowest form of human communication next to violence. I hope that smart phones are stigmatized some day and people will use them in moderation.