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/fcg/ - femcel general Anonymous 59574

post all things related to your involuntary celibacy

thread prompts:
>when did you realize you were a femcel and how old are you now
>what does being a femcel mean to you
>vent about celibacy
>what are your interests ? ( just curious, not necessarily related )
feel free to add more

Anonymous 59576

i disagree with the idea of 'femcels' but she looks so much cuter with the clown makeup

Anonymous 59581

damn I miss the femcel subreddit, it was a really nice community, got nuked for nothing

Anonymous 59582


>when did you realize you were a femcel and how old are you now
I think I fully realized this about a year ago and now i'm 20 years old.
>what does being a femcel mean to you
It means that I really really want someone to love me unconditionally in a romantic way but I know that my dream of being loved like that is simply just that. A dream. I wish my dream was to own a Ferrari instead, because I can atleast save up for a car, but not love.
>vent about celibacy
I don't really care that much about sex. Yeah for sure, it's a nice bonus. But really I just want a lot of cuddles and kisses and someone who truly loves me.
>what are your interests?
I genuinely like gaming, drawing and reading books. I'm trying to force myself into fitness too. I'm severely overweight so my absolute final hope is that if I get into fitness and become thinner then maybe, just maybe someone would love me. But if that doesn't happen then i'll just accept my fate as a complete femcel.

Anonymous 59583

are you gay and cant get a gf? because men don't really love women, it doesn't matter what you look like

Anonymous 59584

Yes i'm gay. Funny thing is that a bunch of men like me on tinder, but no women. My life is a curse.

Anonymous 59585

have you tried something other than tinder? that's really not the place for a real relationship…

Anonymous 59586

Trust me i've tried everything. I have had alot of gay friends. Tried multiple dating apps multiple times, gone to a lot of lgbt meetings and clubs. Still nothing. I don't know what more I can do.

Anonymous 59589

interesting how that sub got banned but the ones about "degrading holes" and fantasizing about incest and rape are still up

Anonymous 59636

Anyone else feel like they fundamentally can't relate to people who are/have been relationships? Our worlds just seem so different. I wish there was something like convents but non-religious so I could be sent there.

Anonymous 59854

>what does being a femcel mean to you
i am ugly
>what are you interests ?
tetris. i honestly wake up and do nothing all day. kill me

Anonymous 59882

>when did you realize you were a femcel
Around 12 or so, when my friends constantly got attention from boys but I got zero. Or the only time guys would talk to me was if it was a prank. I also noticed my features werent conventionally attractive like other girls, and that boys seemed to go for girls with a very specific type of look (blonde, slutty, Stacy)

>how old are you now

>what does being a femcel mean to you
By being ugly or unattractive or mentally ill or vulnerable, we are exposed to the worst side of male nature and we are blackpilled from an early age. While Stacies and other women are comfortable and flirty with men because they know they will receive a positive response from them, as femcels our actions and words are constantly judged by moids as negative and unwelcome, we are derided and demonized just for existing, or simply ignored.

>vent about celibacy

Many femcels such as myself are completely uninterested in casual sex. Incels don’t seem to understand that gross desperate horny guys willing to fuck us for 5 minutes then ghost us does not count as a privilege. Only incels desire that kind of disgusting degeneracy. It’s like telling a starving child they should be happy that they have cow dung to eat. 99% of incels also have access to escorts or 1/10s but they often refuse these while claiming to be incel.

We are still legitimate femcels in that we aren’t deemed high quality enough by men to date or marry. Most of us just want love and marriage. But no man can genuinely love us or want to be in a relationship with us because we aren’t attractive or mentally stable enough.

Anonymous 59883

Reddit is a hotbed of ‘nice guy’ pedophiles and coomers so I’m not surprised

Anonymous 59887


>when did you realize you were a femcel and how old are you now
i'm 19 now but fully started thinking of myself as a femcel only about a year ago, before that i just thought of myself as not being conventionally attractive and unlucky af. i really just think i have body dysmorphia though, it makes me suicidal every once and then
>what does being a femcel mean to you
being treated like shit by society!
>vent about celibacy
i have an "e-bf" but he's only seen half-pics and some old pics of me, i've told him about my body dysmorphia and he doesnt't mind me not wanting to show myself. we plan on meeting up eventually. having a partner has made me even more self-conscious because now i have to worry about being pretty enough for him, while before this relationship i'd just kind of eh at least i don't have to care too much as i don't leave my house often. i do feel undeserving af though, he's very loving and i'm pretty sure if we met he'd stop liking me. i really do believe i'm going to end up dying alone.
>what are your interests ?
drawing, crochet, clay, and weeb stuff i guess.

Anonymous 59888

no offense but how can this be when i see tons of unattractive women in marriages? tons. i see a lot of unattractive women who are married to rich guys

Anonymous 59927

I don’t know where you live but in my country I don’t actually see this very much. Most unattractive women seem to be single. I mean yeah sometimes I see older or fat couples together, but their marriages usually seem to be pretty unhappy and filled with resentment. I feel like a lot of older womens resentment towards their husbands stems from the fact they are always checking out younger or more attractive women and over time this builds up to contempt in the marriage.

Anonymous 59931

Reminder that you cannot be a femcel if you are thin and or white.

Anonymous 59932


>when did you realize you were a femcel
around last year
>what does being a femcel mean to you
it means that it is fundamentally impossible for me to ever be in a relationship no matter how hard i try. its just how things are meant to be for some people i guess
>vent about celibacy
i dont want sex in fact i hate even the mere idea of it. i just wish things werent like this for me and that i was capable of being loved… my only appeal was my youthfulness back when i was a child but now i am no longer that so i have no chance to have somebody even pretend to care about me and treat me like a romantic partner, if they feel like it… but i think i am fated to be this way there's not much i can do about that if it is the case
>what are your interests ? ( just curious, not necessarily related )
i like mlp and gyaru fashion and um… idk i forget im honestly not that interesting as a person unless you like watching trainwrecks in which case i like self harming lole… ^_^ i think im going to start livestreaming that and that way i can get requests maybe lol. is that whorish ? i hope not i also have a tumblr i like that as well and i like collecting imageboards ( ummm writing the urls down and finding as many as i can if that makes sense ) because there used to be a website that compiled every imageboard there was and now i cant find it anymore :( its not creamys compilation of imgboards or whatever its called like it was a website. anyway im interested in making my own website of the sort … :3

Anonymous 59933

well im anorexic so im not attractive thin or even remotely fit =_= nobody likes a skeleton just like nobody likes a landwhale anon…

Anonymous 59934

I thought the exact same thing until I got in a relationship with the only person my age I still talked to. Now I'm one of those weird girls in a relationship but without any friends. Before even starting to like him (we aren't dating because he asked me to, we felt something towards each other months before that) I used to imagine what do relationships feel like, actually I had been wondering about that since a girl I was friends with in HS got his first bf. I couldn't project the sensation I imagined without adding a healthy social life in which your partner and you make contact with others an reasure your status as a couple. I also thought on intimacy, confidence and an instant feeling of never beeing completely alone as if your partner could be always by your side if you message him/her to come by it.
The day my bf and I first kissed I felt nothing like that. I was almost completely void of any feeling, like in a shock. I had already planned to worship him in secret and now I had to face a lot of consequences (I was and I am dealing with some self-image issues). As time has passed by, the feeling of duplicity and intimacy has grow stronger and I recall the first day we kissed as one of the simplest yet purest moments of my life.
I do think that after this relationship I will spend the rest of my life single and I'll go back to that initial state of viewing relationships like the strangest fenomenon. Maybe it doesn't help that most of the people my age I knew started their relationships one week after meeting their partners and some of then confessed me they've never ''been in love'' really.

Sorry for talking so much about myself. I'm actually curious what do you find so different from people who have been in a relationship from those who haven't. Maybe it's like motherhood (I can't know), people think it changes your life and yourself but it really only does the first one.

Anonymous 59938

>when did you realize you were a femcel and how old are you now
I probably realized 2 or 3 years ago, I am 32 now.
>what does being a femcel mean to you
I probably won't be able to overcome my issues and ever be able to love. I honestly just don't trust men at all. I like women but I hate myself too much and am too intimidated. I feel like I don't belong with other girls and have always felt more boyish even though I don't like boys. And due to trauma it is too painful to be around other people or to let myself be put in a position where they can hurt me. I want to overcome this but years of therapy haven't helped me and I honestly don't see a way out.
>vent about celibacy
It is boring. But at the same time I am too scared to change. I was addicted to porn/erotica but switching meds killed my sex drive and I feel better now.
>what are your interests ? ( just curious, not necessarily related )
Mostly writing. When I want to just chill I will watch some TV or read (fiction or manga/comics). Used to be really into video games but I don't play that much anymore.
I think you can be loved, we can all be loved. I try to remind myself of that every day.

Anonymous 60123

Lots of dudes are into skellies though. It activates their protective instinct. And yeah being anorexic isn’t good but if most guys had to choose between fat and skelly almost all of them would choose the skelly girl. Most models are anorexic and they are the epitome of modern beauty.

Anonymous 60124

I hate when people say ‘yeah well girls can get pump and dumped anytime they want so they can’t be lonely’. God. As if having random sex with strangers would make ANYONE feel good about themselves. It’s why many gays and slutty girls are so unstable and neurotic. All we want is fucking LOVE.

Anonymous 60126

And before any tinder Stacies reading this get offended or cry about slut shaming, I just wanna say: I have never met a promiscuous person who was truly stable or happy in themselves.

Only about 7% of the US female population even use tinder compared to almost a quarter of men, which just shows hookup culture and casual sex isnt on most normie womens agenda.

Anonymous 60127


>when did you realize you were a femcel and how old are you now

idk probably around 15-16 i'd say. i wasn't exactly aware of the term femcel but that's when things started to dip. im 19 now and turn 20 soon.

>what does being a femcel mean to you

Im not rlly sure how to answer this but i guess it means like a blackpill of how men will really treat you. some say being ugly is a blessing in disguise because you can see what people see or really want from you. but men even still then, talk about how they'd only bang a girl with a bag on her head. there is always something to gain from any woman.

i guess i like, being undesirable? i guess. but like i said before, men will still desire you to some point. they will fuck a mcchicken so ofc. it doesn't help my mental illness contributes to this too (BPD, GAD, MDD, Autism).

socially it sucks too, i have so much internet autism i feel like it's impossible to form proper relationships with people who didn't grow up on the internet like me. i've also been described as having a 'man personality'. i sought refugee with the internet from a very early age.

>vent about celibacy

i'm almost 20 and still a complete khhv. it's very embarrassing for me.im also a complete social virgin too ( never hung out with someone before, never been out somewhere by myself. never been texted never had a friend and ect.) i feel as i get older it's going to be harder to find a good partner especially one that would be patient and tolerant enough for me. i want my first time to be special and intimate, not emotionless sex. which is very hard now because everyone is obsessed with instant gratification and hook ups. i mean hell demisexual might as well be a valid sexuality now bc people fuck without even know each other's names.

it sucks that my partner would need to be very good at communication bc of my mental illness too which is something that every single relationship even lacks.

i joked with an online friend before if he'd believe me if i told him i wasn't a virgin and he laughed and said "no lol"

im not exactly super embarrassed but it's weird some people won't believe me when i say it. it's just that i haven't even made eye contact with a guy longer than like 5 seconds lol

i think my only hope would be e-dating

>>what are your interests

a lot of internet surfing, i've been neeting it out for awhile now. and prob will be for quite a long time now. i try to use my time productively with taking college courses online for computer science and working on my hobbies ( cooking, drawing, writing, makeup, animals, ect.) i've been catching up on some old skills with khan academy too since i did really bad in school and i realized it's a lot easier to self pace myself compared to hs.

Anonymous 60128

>I feel like I don't belong with other girls and have always felt more boyish even though I don't like boys.

i feel the same. i don't really get along with other girls and find it hard to relate to them. since i never really experienced typical teen things while growing up and just instead knew isolation.

>And due to trauma it is too painful to be around other people or to let myself be put in a position where they can hurt me.

i've been bullied and hurt by a lot of men online. it really affected my perception of relationships. im going through the same cycle of never trusting people and just isolating myself because that makes me feel the safest. never being hurt.

>I want to overcome this but years of therapy haven't helped me and I honestly don't see a way out.

maybe regular therapy isn't for you. DBT is pretty good and intensive and is perfect for people who feel this way. but i could barely do it and dipped out, it's very hard to change mindsets, behaviors, and mannerisms after years of doing it. but i imagine if you really put yourself to it you could see some results, it just takes a long time.

Anonymous 60191


>when did you realize you were a femcel and how old are you now
20, but I kind of knew earlier than that. It really sunk in at 21 and now I'm almost 24.
>what does being a femcel mean to you
Struggling to find an intimate partner for a prolonged period of time as an adult.
I used to blame my appearance but it was honestly never the issue I made it out to be. Women ""less attractive"" than myself frequently find love. And with hindsight, a handful of people really did find me attractive/hit on me in the past. I just denied it because self hatred and fear of intimacy or whatever.
I consider myself mentalcel. Possibly AVPD, but the term doesn't really matter. I just struggle to maintain relations.
>vent about celibacy
It feels too late to start fucking now. I'm too awkward and have become uncomfortable with the idea of sexual intimacy with my body.
I went through a phase where I was a cumbrain, but now I'm noporn and all that. Overall, I am proud of overcoming that degeneracy. My sex drive is still high but I've accepted this fate for now.
As for the emotional aspect and loneliness, it used to haunt and frustrate me daily. But again, it feels too late for that now as well. Despite my social ineptitude, I know having one's first kiss this late is embarrassing. I am simply too old to fumble my way through my first girlfriend like everyone else did 10 years ago. I doubt anyone has the patience lmao.
>what are your interests ? ( just curious, not necessarily related )
Art, select manga, anime, and cartoons, dolls. I just draw women for hours at a time on days off and hang out with my mom. For now I'm just focusing on my career so that takes up my time.

I am also getting involved culturally. It would be nice to meet a woman of my culture with similar interests who would maybe like me enough to be gentle and kind. Despite accepting defeat, my confidence is slowly growing and I am trying to heal from past mistakes I made when pushing people away. I now see myself as moderately cute and pleasant, but it's so, so hard to be close to people.

Anonymous 60209

>I have become uncomfortable with the idea of sexual intimacy with my body
Iktf. I should have been having sex in my teens, but now I’m an ageing boomer I’m feeling grosser than ever to the point looking at myself naked is anxiety producing enough, let alone letting someone else see me naked. I guess I’m probably never gonna lose my virginity.

Anonymous 60238


>"feels too late to start fucking now"
>"I should have been having sex in my teens"

Anonymous 60244


>feel like since I've been called one before that I'm starting to develop the tendencies of a femcel
>almost 25
>is too jaded and mentally fucked to get laid in the past nearly 2 years especially with the pandemic, chronic fear of dating apps, dating online or via something like discord is disgusting and gross and I cannot form a relationship around an ldr
>I've become unhealthy infatuated with a famous older actor and keep manifesting he's going to run into me and fuck me
>movies, tv, art, kpop, music in general

I don't think I'm entirely unfuckable, the problem is I don't try, have very tight standards, and have been abused in the past. For that reason I hate dating apps, the idea of a bunch of uggos trying to flirt with me and send me their dicks is nothing short of repulsive. I cannot stand male flirting. Funny thing is pre pandemic I used to be more of a party girl and I'd even occasionally hook up with guys who weren't uggos, and post pandemic I've been driven into such reclusion that I felt like I've become a femcel. So I'm holding out because I realize there's probably no worthy men around here, until I move to a city where I want to live or unless I somehow fuck actor man. I can get over my femcelism when I actually meet someone who's worthy of my time. Yeah, good luck with that, me.

Anonymous 60285

who's the older actor nona if you dont mind me asking

Anonymous 60286


>when did you realize you were a femcel and how old are you now
I'm 22, I realized I'm never going to have a boyfriend when I was around 14. As a child I kept telling myself I'm gonna be pretty one day, no way I'm gonna stay ugly. But when I became a teenager it fully hit me how ugly I am.
>what does being a femcel mean to you
I guess being a khhv, men being visibly digusted in your presence/ignoring you, etc.
>vent about celibacy
I'm mostly ok with it, when I'm lonely I'll play an otome game, watch some boy talk to a camera, etc. What really bothers me is how awfully I'm being treated by men as someone who is both autistic and ugly. Even at 22 I experience bullying from them, when men don't see you as potential romantic partner they stop treating you like human. Thankfully most people in my workplace are women so it's not as bad as it was in school.
>what are your interests ? ( just curious, not necessarily related )
I spend most of my free time playing games and reading manga. But I also like cooking, keeping plants, taking care of strays, playing volleyball.

Anonymous 60287

For me it's not so much body issues (I have managed to work through them somehow), but discomfort with being touched and just feeling…very unsexual. I would end up either laughing or crying for sure since I simply cannot view myself as sexual or imagine anyone else seeing me as such.

Good luck with your body issues, anon. I'm sure you're cute. And I hope we can all find someone willing to help us through our bullshit.

Maybe this is just the area, but most people I know had first experiences or partners before 21. Even my dorky friends who play DnD and shit.
I agree that teen sex isn't great, but having your first kiss and gf/bf in those years makes sense. It would definitely make it less foreign.

Anonymous 60289

I used to be a femcel but then met my boyfriend online and made it work with him. I’m an ex-femcel now. Part of the reason why I was a femcel came from a perpetuating cycle of low self esteem, self hatred, low confidence, of which all stemmed from unresolved childhood trauma, neglect and abuse from my household and from school. all I wanted to do was stay in my safe space all day (My bedroom lol), away from people who’d judge me after being bullied for so long in my prime developmental years. That’s no way to live. I festered in my loneliness instead of seeking out a solution to it which is venturing outdoors & forming strong bonds from friendships. I go outside now with my bf, of which I met online, so idk, maybe he cured my femceldom, not really myself. Though making the effort and pushing to meet him in person despite fearing he’d find me ugly and abandon me based on my (self rated) “bad” looks really helped me in gathering up the confidence and courage I thought I’d never achieve. So I’d say I sort of grew as a person from this experience. I just needed the push to do it, and that push was enjoying the company of a random guy I met online lol

Anonymous 60290

Sex is gross. All the bodily fluids leaking out… imagine kissing someone’s genitals and then kissing their mouth… I can’t comprehend why anyone would indulge in such filth. I’d rather stick to my dirty thoughts than kiss someone’s genitals. Also kissing is gross. Swapping saliva and tasting someone else’s tongue is just disgusting. How do people do it

Anonymous 60322

Then you were never a true femcel. Simply a mentalcel Stacy with low self esteem. Some of us are objectively ugly and therefore we couldn’t get bfs even if we got all the psychological therapy in the world.

Anonymous 60324

>try to remember the last time you felt pretty
>it was when you were 5 years old
>look back on those photos
>you were an ugly kid anyway and even by then it was already clear who would grow up to be beautiful and who wouldn’t
Feels bad man

Anonymous 60326

>try to remember the last time a guy hit on you
>it was when you were a toddler being hit on by an adult moid pedo
Feels very bad man

Anonymous 60368

I wouldn’t call myself a Stacy.
>teeth so crooked & crowded that I grew two rows of teeth
>small recessive jaw
>ugly wide crooked witch nose
>small beady eyes
>giant goblin ears
>bad breath due to dental problems
>hairy and chubby
If I could get a bf looking like that, I’m sure others can too. It’s just meeting the right person, and climbing out of that self defeatist mindset femcels (and incels) both share.

Anonymous 60374

Would you say your bf is your looksmatch or is he uglier/better looking than you are?

Anonymous 60377

Not the miner but im kinda ugly and was a bit of a femcel myself and i got a very attractive boyfirend. He was also sort of popular in high school while i was pretty much invisible.
Also he likes me for my intelligence.

Anonymous 60387

boy howdy I sure hope no one is retarded enough to violate the one big rule of this imageboard in here

Anonymous 60404

>when did you realize you were a femcel and how old are you now
Crippling and debilitating social anxiety in middle school to the point where I was mistaken as being "special," PTSD from sexual abuse made me a sheltered, shut-in seventh grade drop out, luckily I got a GED and went to community college, and fixed my shit, but people still scare me
>what does being a femcel mean to you
Perpetually socially outcasted
>vent about celibacy
I don't really care. The way people approach sex repulses me. It's often objectifying, degrading, and used as an ego boost rather than connecting with someone intimately. I have issues with vulnerably, and little to no desire to connect with people in /that way/ due to that PTSD, so /shrugs/ I like being celibate. However… I do want to connect with others in a non-sexual way, and I can't do that either.
>what are your interests ? ( just curious, not necessarily related )
Video games, nature activities (camping, canoeing, etc, but they're kind of boring alone…) InfoSec, archery, books,

Anonymous 60415

Damn are you me? I relate to everything you said!!!!!!
Also, I wonder if I’m autistic due to my PTSD from childhood, have you ever wondered that?
There’s been studies about PTSD and autistic trait similarities

Anonymous 60427

I'm glad I dont have to partake in bullshit dating drama. Modern relationships just seem like a competition of who will cuck who first and it's disgusting. Its 2021. Love is dead.

Anonymous 60432

My bf is more attractive than me, but he prides himself being a contrarian and unique, so I suspect he likes me because he goes against the grain of what most men go for (attractive women). I think he likes me because I am cute and adorable in personality (His words not mine), and a big beam of positive energy no matter the circumstance. I’ve been through a lot and have decided to stop wallowing in despair and misery, and I guess my change in attitude, and my backstory of all the hardships I’ve faced, have really built my character up and he admires that in me. He’s been through a lot too, and we have bonded over the struggles we’ve faced and really try to help each other grow as people.
My opinion will probably be discarded and ignored because we are a serious case of “ugly fat girl with hot attractive guy” and most people don’t like that pairing but are okay with the “hot attractive girl with ugly fat rich guy pairing”. I probably sound like a larp but I’m just trying to share my experience as an ex femcel. Maybe I’ll answer the questionnaire pretending I didn’t meet my bf, and pretending I was the old me later lol

Anonymous 60469

Being the homely girl with the hot bf sounds ideal and I’m happy for you, but I have a feeling you are probably objectively more attractive than you think you are. Ive received literally no attention or compliments from men irl so I already know I’m unattractive and I will probably never get a bf.

Anonymous 60470

I've been a hopeless romantic for a while but deep down inside of me I feel like you

Anonymous 60484

I thought I was over being a femcel or caring about looks in general now that I lookmaxxed, went to therapy, and worked on improving myself in every way I could but no.. I've been talking with this older guy online, we're platonic so I never worried too much about how he precives me, yesterday he made a random remark that I look like the real life version of Tina from Bob's burgers if she had longer hair.
I'm so upset because I'm ugly and because I don't want to care yet I still do, stuck in thia cognitive dissonance limbo.

Anonymous 60491

Looksmaxxing as a femcel is pretty much impossible without plastic surgery, and a lot of the time plastic surgery looks so fake and weird afterwards that it’s not even worth getting. Any femcel who can looksmaxx with makeup and look attractive was never a femcel to begin with, because they obviously had enough to work with in the first place.

Anyway yeah men treat women they don’t see in a sexual/romantic light like shit and its not worth hanging around men if you aren’t a Stacy.

Anonymous 60496

I remember when I was younger I used to actually think I was attractive. Then I would take videos or photos of myself from various angles just to see how I looked to others and was always horrified by how hideous I looked.

Anonymous 60499

That's true, looksmaxxing as a femcel for me was figuring ways to hide and disguise my ugliness but obviously isn't working, been thinking about plastic surgery again, I don't expect to be pretty but I want to at least be a little easier to look at.

Anonymous 60521

it seems tougher to look nice in a photo than in the mirror

why is that

Anonymous 60531

Well for starters mirrors reflect you in reverse so you don’t actually see how people see you. Also most mirrors are in places with decent lighting. I feel like photos are probably more accurate which is terrifying.

Anonymous 60564


I will be forever celibate because

>Mental, paranoid and convinced random people are evil for no reason, need to feel a sense of danger etc, feel like my soul is in many places at once and I am secretly evil or hearing things

>lesbian- it would be immoral to have another homosexual relationship as it goes against my beliefs, but men and the idea of being with men is gross and scary to me. I would have to pretend to like a man, or try to like one and see if I can, or be celibate. I have never wanted a man and always wanted a 'special friendship' with girls, but I'll try to be straight before I give up, maybe I can be healthy and normal if I trust them.

>Incredibly robotic- have been diagnosed with autism but can blend in with efforts. I look normal, but in motion I'm rigid, try really hard to understand sarcasm or social nuance, and have practiced demonstrating facial expressions that look normal

>celibacy isn't bad but I feel a little set apart at times as I know my parents expect that I'll grow up and meet a guy, and my peers are in that boat of being with guys too. I replay memories with my ex gf if I'm lonely, but that's it. No one knew about us so she's still my secret.


piano, language learning, reading, coding, cooking, lying on the floor, crying and gaming

Anonymous 60565


>lesbian- it would be immoral to have another homosexual relationship as it goes against my beliefs, but men and the idea of being with men is gross and scary to me. I would have to pretend to like a man, or try to like one and see if I can, or be celibate. I have never wanted a man and always wanted a 'special friendship' with girls, but I'll try to be straight before I give up, maybe I can be healthy and normal if I trust them.
dude, deal with your internalized homophobia instead of turning yourself into a pretzel wtf

Anonymous 60570

Thanks queen, it's hard to resist the flesh but there is more out there and I want to honour it with a clean spirit.

Not to be rude but wtf does turning yourself into a pretzel mean? Is it a good thing?

Anonymous 60574

>it's a literal man

Anonymous 60669

Are lesbians allowed?

Anonymous 60688

That subreddit was utter garbage, they doxxed and gatekeeped who and what is considered a femcel, it was toxic

Anonymous 60689

they doxxed people?

Anonymous 60690

To an extent they certainly did, I lurker on the sub for awhile until it got removed or what quarantined? Idk the right terminology lmao.
But they really mean to girls who would post pictures of themselves on there and ask for confirmation if they were a femcel or not, and they would doxx you or try to in many ways if you posted in their community as an outsider who wanted clarification on being a femcel.

It was a really nice idea, but the execution was horrible, if that’s what femcels or ladies who claim to be femcels really behave like then I don’t wanna run into them irl

Anonymous 60691


>when did you realize you were a femcel and how old are you now
around age 16, I'm 25 now
>what does being a femcel mean to you
being mentally unwell, neurodivergent, and ugly. Having a hard time socially and not just 'teehee I'm too afraid to call and make my own doctor's appointments', it's a point where you struggle to function in daily life. Not relating to others and feeling like the "other". Intense self loathing and confidence issues that take years of consistent effort to undo. All while being your own support system because you can't rely on others
>vent about celibacy
doesn't bother me 90% of the time. I get horny around certain points in my cycle but I have a vibrator and read erotica. I don't think I need to have sex to be happy, but men would disagree with that statement. they will expect you to be the fuck hole any time they want it. and they will still watch porn, jerk off to jailbait, cheat behind your back, find someone better, etc. Sex with men just seems way more trouble than it is worth. Even if someone were to be interested they would be driven away by my lack of interest in sex. however, I am attracted to women, more so than men. I would enter a relationship and happily have sex with women. I considered myself lesbian for the past year but I don't know if I need to stay open to the idea of men. i'm too afraid to come out of the closet and part of me just thinks i'm coping for being ugly. tbh I'm not good enough for women
>what are your interests ? ( just curious, not necessarily related )
playing the sims, listen to records, reading, going for long walks, taking care of my dog, painting, and practicing guitar

i feel like we would get along well anon, kek

Anonymous 60700

>I can get over my femcelism when I actually meet someone who's worthy of my time
I went through a phase like this and I just want to let you know that this attitude is concentrated penis repellant

Anonymous 60708

it was mostly black 16-21 year olds bullying "mentalcels" and pretending that they're the only valid ones and everyone else si lying and overreacting.

Anonymous 60716

You’re gatekeeping, literally that can apply
To anyone so relax you seem triggered

Anonymous 60725

>when did you realize you were a femcel and how old are you now
I identified with the khv archetype from the age of like, 14, and now I'm 20.
>what does being a femcel mean to you
Being a generally isolated, undesirable, mentally ill, and dysfunctional person. Placing so much importance on virginity itself is stupid; I'm sure if I was desperate enough I could have sex, but being used for one night by some hideous moid is not what I want, and it would probably only compound the aforementioned issues I deal with.
>vent about celibacy
I've actually been so sexually frustrated lately. The best I've done for myself is e-date, and the guy I'm talking to sexually engages about once a month at best. I really dread to think about how dispassionate a real life relationship with him would be if we ever pursued it. It's so humiliating being a woman (especially at the age of only 20) and being the one with the high libido (or much of a libido at all) in a relationship. I starve myself and agonise over my appearance, but it's like I'm just supposed to tolerate being neglected in any sort of intimate capacity. I have to settle for masturbation, and I do, almost to spite him, but if he knew he'd probably consider that I was doing him a favour.

Looksmaxxing is such a depressing concept to me. I have done almost everything I can (I'm underweight, well-groomed, had a nose job, have my hair done regularly, had braces, etc.), plus I'm white, which is supposedly a huge advantage, and people still never take a first look at me, let alone a second. Reading stories about girls who lose weight and notice a massive difference in the way they're treated makes me seethe.

Anonymous 60726


this is sadly something that was being repeated over and over in the r/TruFemcels subreddit, it seemed like they had a problem with their blackness (or brownness) more than anything. the user greenteaapplepie69 was one of the most popular posters there, she made the sub mascot and she made these comics featuring a dream man usually being a white man, same poster ( among many others ) was a frequent poster on r/FemaleDatingStrategy, both subs were ruled by dark women like >>60721 said, and they both romanticized a relationship with a white/asian guy to a werid extent.

Femceldom is real but the sub was a toxic and weird environment just like the FDS sub, it feels that if they found their white prince charming they'd drop the whole feminism act.

Anonymous 60727

Relatable, I would die for a nose job, and idk why the gatekeeping femcel closet lesbians here think just because you’re white means “you have it easy” in the looks department.
I’m not white (but I pass as white, I look like a white girl but I’m not) and anyone regardless of ethnicity can be a femcel.
I lost 65lbs and men still don’t wanna date me, they stare at me but they won’t come up to me or ask me out or anything.
I’ve had men on dating apps see a photo of my face and then delete my number when they saw my face

Anonymous 60728

honestly I do recommend rhino and I'm very glad I got it, but if you're ugly with the nose you have now, the sad reality is you'll probably still be ugly afterwards. I'm about to spend about 10k on cosmetic genioplasty, and probably a further 4-6k on revision rhino after that. I honestly just feel like a victim of a superficial and misogynistic society and my own mental illness at this point.

I'm sorry about the dating app situation - keep in mind that a lot of men use them for entertainment though, and are going to be generally shit people.

Anonymous 60734

As far as I know, greenteaapplepie69 wasn't even a brown girl but she made the femcel mascot look like one and I find it so insulting. No one seemed to agree though.

Anonymous 60741

As a white brown girl, that is insulting lmao, but eh I still have my “privledge” I suppose

Anonymous 60742

Thank you anon xD
I actually might need my nose reconstructed all together since I think I inherited a deviated septum and I can’t even breath through my nose regularly.

And yeah dating apps are just a game for guys to use an ego boost on their looks :/ it’s my only option though since I’m a hermit

Anonymous 60755

i feel this so hard nona, im too ugly to even be catcalled :/

Anonymous 60756

Really? I could swear she posted about being non-white before. Not sure definitively though.

Anonymous 60763


>be me
>in high school
>have crush on this guy
>learn that he likes things like philosophy, learn about philosophy for days straight going into extremely niche subjects
>approach him in school while he is alone
>start talking to him
>clearly forced smile on his face while i talk to him, hardly notice because 'tism
>put my hands on his shouler while smiling as sweet as i can
>literally frowns at me and tells me to get my hands off of him (vedd le rólam a kezedet)
>"oh ok"
>go back to my desk while trying not to cry
moids are so fucking cruel to women they don't find attractive.
It's been a few years, and yet this memory constantly pops up while i'm trying to sleep. It's so cringey that i put my hands on my head while saying something random like "stop".

Anonymous 60764

how did you touch his shoulder?

Anonymous 60766

I tripped while walking, and i put my hands on his shoulders as support.
I smiled at him as sweet as i could to make things less awkward.
That was literally it, and yet he looked at me like i just did something absolutely horrible.

Anonymous 60768

oh, i thought you put your hands on his shoulders while making conversation (which can be awkward). that's really mean of him then.

Anonymous 60769

u an anime character

Anonymous 60799

i think im kind of a femcel. ive never had a real relationship. Then I got pinkpilled on moids about a few months ago. Learning how much men really hate women and how they really feel about us makes me feel depressed and kind of heartbroken. It makes me want to not date men anymore and it sucks because im such a hopeless romantic but ill probably never experience love or being intimate with someone because love is fake and male sexuality is shit.

Anonymous 60814

You and me both anon. You articulated my feelings very well. I used to fantasize about moids but now that I'm pinkpilled the thought of physical or emotional intimacy with them makes me feel sick. I still feel hopelessly desirous for a romantic relationship with a nondescript man though.

Anonymous 60827

What do you mean real relationship if you don’t mind me asking. Have you had e-bfs before?

Anonymous 60828

The pinkpill is a bitter one to swallow. I don’t hate men and I don’t think they are all evil or anything. I know decent men exist, I’ve met a few of them. But its just frustrating how all men, no matter how nice or civilised, share the same kind of monkey blueprint when it comes to sexuality and how they view women. It really concerns me how almost all of them think with their dicks, most of them are attracted to underage girls and almost all of them watch porn (and the ones who don’t are usually ex porn addicts who relapse) and also all the proof of how men treat unattractive women like shit but will simp until the cows come home for a pretty face or hot body, they lose interest as their wife ages and becomes less fertile, are more prone to chest with a younger woman by that stage etc. I know it’s just biology and there is nothing you can do to change it, but its all so tiresome. In the end the thought of it all is so daunting I can no longer find the willpower to begin talking to men, for deep down I know they really are all the same.

Anonymous 60830

More prone to cheat*

What also aggravates me is that when you bring up these talking points out of genuine corners and despair, you get accused of being a paranoid schizo femcel man hater. But really it’s just stating simple facts and the proof of this moid behavior is everywhere, many of them will admit all this stuff in private among their bros, just go on any manosphere forum and you can see them all discussing this unsavory stuff.

Anonymous 60831

Genuine concern* lol dammit

Anonymous 60892

i had two in middle school and one of them was just online and they barely lasted.

Anonymous 60894

Can we please stop using the word "femcel" because if we do it validates the idea of incels and that is rubbish because they are just angry moids.

Anonymous 60914

It is definitely a thing if you have standards and or self respect lol.

Anonymous 60967


I know it's five days late but it's >>60564 here.
Genuinely wish I knew people like you who felt like the 'other' so we could be the weird ones together. I wouldn't care about being the weird girl if I had another weird girl too.

Anonymous 60997

Anonymous 61003

shut up

Anonymous 61035

i became a femcel when my highschool bf broke up with me at age 19 because of my instable mental state. i do take full responsibility for that and i understand why he did it. im in my mid 20s now and have been completely celibate for almost 5 years. its hard to believe but not a single man has even hit on me in those years. probably because i got really fat and mean lol

most of the time i honestly dont really mind it that much because i have a very low sex drive and males are generally very ugly to me but i have been attracted to a couple guys and even tried to shoot my shot but obviously got rejected. celibacy also made me lowkey sex repulsed. its been so long since i had sex that it became something really foreign and even unthinkable to me. i will probably never have sex again and neither do i really wnat to because im very unattractive and also neet and generally have nothing going for me in life and if im being honest i dont want to associate with bottom of the barrel guys who would be attracted to a bottom of the barrel woman like me

Anonymous 61065

Sounds more like you’re a mentalcel. If you got one boyfriend you can get another.

Anonymous 61119

honestly, get some self esteem before dating otherwise you 100% will attract those "bottom of the barrel" men, he probably made you feel as though you are unstable because he's a gaslighting emotionally abusive ass and deflected all of the bad things he did onto you

Anonymous 61121

>i became a femcel when my highschool bf broke up with me
Stopped reading here. Femcels are women who can't even get boyfriends and no, this isn't gatekeeping. Words have meanings.

Anonymous 61124

I haven't had a close female friend who is 'weird' too, idk maybe my brain has been fubar by the internet. hope this isn't weird but I have a discord zells666#7825 if you feel inclined

Anonymous 61164

>every relationship grows you as a person
Great, so, I’ll remain fucking stunted for life.
What a fucking stupid quote.
And not just because of my femcel status.
How is, say, domestic violence necessary for personal growth?
Wish people would stop using it, because it alienates everyone who isn’t lucky enough to have had multiple healthy relationships.

Anonymous 61172


Wanna play "The New Tetris" via netplay with me?

Anonymous 61241

Nta but I've never been able to enjoy tetris much. I prefer panel de pon/puzzle league for a vs falling blocks game.

Anonymous 61345

I could probably find at least one absolutely desperate 0/10 guy to ‘settle’ for me so technically not truly femcel, but in every other way I feel like one.

I feel so hideous, so fat, every picture I take of myself I look disgusting, even worse in ones others take. I don’t understand why every single facial feature I have and my boobs ass skin and legs are so ugly.

Even if the opportunity magically presented itself, I could never have a bf as I am so painfully insecure. I could never get naked in front of another human. There are so many girls out there with far better faces and bodies than me, they are so easily available too, and probably a lot nicer and more interesting than me and better at sex too. So why would anyone actually want me? I hate myself so much. I don’t leave the house anymore because I don’t want anyone to see me. If I do make a dash to 7/11 it’s at 4am and I dress in a black hoodie and wear a mask. I will never find love and I realized it many years ago.

Anonymous 61360

Can you tell me the source of your pic, anon? I've seen this character posted before and I'm intrigued.

Anonymous 61362


NTA, but that's drawn by https://twitter.com/etherane and that's a doodle of her character from her game called Hello Charlotte.

Anonymous 61408

Where do all of these fellow lesbicels come from?
Every lesbian I’ve met has mentioned a string of girlfriends, even the shy ones, which makes me feel like total shit, since rejection is all I’ve gotten, ever since coming out in my teens.

Anonymous 61438

Ah, I seethe a little about straight girls. But it's mainly from my best friend distancing herself from me when she suspected me as homo, and going out with guys who would mess her around. Sometimes lesbians come off as misogynistic, with the straight girls=basic dumb bitches not like me, and feeling bitter about being the odd one out. And sometimes I get it, because some of them see men through rose tinted glasses, and do so much to cater for them. Meanwhile, we are the 'nice girls' who would treat them so much better, tipping our fedoras sadly.
Hating on straight women makes you as bad as a man, and sexuality doesn't define you. Glad we went through the same heterophobe nice girl cringe phase lmao

Anonymous 61448

>have condition which makes me stink
>no cure
>born in place with poorest ugliest men who still have insanely high standards (slavic country) and stacies everywhere
>unironically 2/10
>poor as fuck
>dumb and no qualifications
>too unattractive and smelly for any rich american man to import me as a mail order bride
My days are spent alone, coping and trying not to kms.

Anonymous 61449

Also ageing like shit and already have wrinkles and nasolabial folds despite being 23. Kissless and will never find a bf.

Anonymous 61456

I can relate
khhv, ugly on the outside and on the inside, overweight, mentally damaged, no friends, I could die and no one would care, not good at anything, not any redeeming qualities, I really hate myself I wish I was someone else instead because I'm beyond salvation and not even old wrinkled men would want to exploit me, I was never catcalled in my life, had an encounter when I was a teenager where a group of guys walked past me all looking at me and one of them said to the rest that I was ugly,, the only chance of a relationship would be with a man who fetishizes me and even then he'll quickly leave because I'm hard to be around..

Anonymous 61460

Why do Anons ITT call themselves Femcels when they had sexual experience or even a bf/gf?
Like do you don't know that involuntary celibacy means or are you just dumb?

Anonymous 61465

Yeah, I don't want to be mean but anyone with relationship experience is not a femcel. Even if the relationship was shit. They had one. They somehow managed to get into one which other women can't, for many reasons. But that doesn't make them a femcel. They just had a shit relationship. And obviously they can still talk about their own dating difficulties, just not under the femcel term.

Anonymous 61468

I've noticed that there are a lot of normie men and women who insist on identifying as incel/femcel, for some reason. You would think nobody would want to identify as those but it's like a fascinating club that they really want to join. Maybe they want to feel special or think they have nowhere else to go to talk about their problems and insecurities.

Anonymous 61486

The only relationship experience i had was e-relationships where i have a crush on an ugly loser nerd because i think he could be my looksmatch and i start treating him specially and try to make him say nice things to me but the latter never happens, i just get friendzoned as a timekiller or as the ugly girl whom they ask dating advice for other women.
I try everything i can, and im still not acknowledged as a human, whenever i try to open up about my problems I'd get the cold shoulder, ive been dying for any sort of compliment but i lost hope long ago.

Anonymous 61494

these labels always end up about 'identification' (not reality), feeling special, and exploiting others for social benefit.

Anonymous 61495

It's just coping for people who can get a relationship but can't hold one or commit to it

Anonymous 61514


>when she leaves you for a stinky plinky male
I'm sorry about your spergout but I would have got that frustrated too if I saw a girl I liked pick a guy who wasn't good enough for her

Anonymous 61750


>when did you realize you were a femcel
~21-22 years old, when I realized I had gotten through all of high school and college with only a few drunken kisses as a result
>how old are you now
>what does being a femcel mean to you
Being unable to form close romantic relationships even as an adult, remaining a virgin far beyond any of your peers
>vent about celibacy
Anyone calling themselves a femcel at less than 25 years old should be threadbanned.
The last time I kissed someone was more than 4 years ago. I am a lesbian and technically a gold star but am a virgin with women as well. I've been told by no less than 3 straight girls that if I was a man they would be slobbering on my dick but since I'm female they just had "girlcrushes" which is such a fucking tease. I will probably die alone. For some reason, I still have hope but every year that goes by makes it harder to keep my head up. I keep telling myself, once I make over 80k a year it'll happen, once I work out regularly I'll meet a woman, once I buy a house it'll come naturally, etc. retarded shit like that. If I'm being honest with myself I know that day will never come but I still dream.

Anonymous 62282


>How do you feel about dying a virgin?
This reminded me of a talented artist who died last year from terminal illness, because she posted this a couple months before she passed, but right after the diagnosis. She was around 30 iirc. It just made me wonder what was going through her mind when she wrote it, if it was just a joke post or exposing feelings of regret, maybe she actually wanted to meet someone before passing? She had health problems her whole life and everything must have been hard.

It's a good reminder we should be thankful for what we take for granted though, like a healthy heart. Reading through her lasts posts looks like she had such a tough time.

Anonymous 62288

>I keep telling myself, once I make over 80k a year it'll happen, once I work out regularly I'll meet a woman, once I buy a house it'll come naturally, etc. retarded shit like that. If I'm being honest with myself I know that day will never come but I still dream.
Too real. I feel exactly the same, I'm 29. I'm not gonna make it, I just don't know what to do instead. I have a successful career but I do not give a fuck about my job. I could buy a car but I hate driving. Housing is too expensive actually to consider as a single. It's like, there's just nothing to win.

Anonymous 62291

Are you religious? I would join a convent

Anonymous 62292

Sex with a man doesn’t even look satisfying desu. So he sticks his meat sword into you, pumps and grunts a few times for 30 secs and ahhhhhhhhh cooms, filling you with gross slimy shit. Doesn’t sound pleasurable at all. Men these days don’t seem to know how to have sex without being violent anyway so it probably would be traumatizing. Heterosexual sex in itself always seemed like an act of violence to me. The fact men have to rub our clits to get us to enjoy it seems like manipulation.

Anonymous 62295

>fact men have to rub our clits
Most men don't even do that or they do it completely wrong. Sex is overrated.

Anonymous 62516

clitoral stimulation should come naturally while rubbing against the pelvic bone of the man. penetrative orgasm is completely possible because the clit isnt two dimensional, it wraps around the vaginal canal and can be simulated from the inside.

Anonymous 62956

sex is more than genital rubbing

Anonymous 62959

holy shit spend less time on the internet.

Anonymous 62960

that second twitter comment looks fake

Anonymous 62992

it does but it's a real tweet, you can google it

Anonymous 62994

this is so sad…

Anonymous 62995

i relate to this but im mexican.

Anonymous 63004

you could probably pass for white
She should try majority black countries and see how she gets on
I did google it and I couldnt find it

Anonymous 63288

The fourth square is depressing and enraging.

Anonymous 63312

This chart and the associated study are nearly 10 years old and America-centric. It doesn't apply to the rest of the world. I'd even say it doesn't apply to half of the US. Stop bringing it up.

Anonymous 63315

Are there any more recent surveys or studies? It probably won't be good for my nonexistent self-esteem, but I'd be curious to know what it looks like today.

Anonymous 63317

This american thing of studying social activities based on race is so cringe

Anonymous 63318

That is true in places like the US with people of different races. Not in countries where everybody is white.

Anonymous 63328

iirc this data was based on one American dating site's data so most of the men are going to be middle aged divorcees and most of the women are going to be gold diggers lol. Also it's from like 2008 so it's all Gen Xers and Boomers.

Anonymous 63335

I don't think that is a thing in Brazil.

Anonymous 63348

I read more recent stuff. Same shit today

Anonymous 64277

Your post struck a chord with me. I feel for you. Wish you the best honest.

Anonymous 64278

Anonymous 64809

rejected by my looksmatch or even below my looksmatch time and time again, they dont even see me as a woman.
it hurts.

Anonymous 64824

so we are gatekeeping femcels now? wow

Anonymous 64826

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>when did you realize you were a femcel and how old are you now
less than a year ago, I am now 20

>what does being a femcel mean to you

I dont think being a khv doesnt equate to being a femcel but it can contribute to it. I think its mainly a mindset that is convuluted by mental illness, trauma and being blackpilled on people in general. Although it doesnt have to be all three, but at least one of those aspects contributes to the femcel mindset.
Also i believe femcels crave and desire a true relationship and bond that is healthy and pure. We want to make love, not have sex. And even though we know we could possibly find someone or have a good chance, femcels will hold back even when an opurtunity is presented. I would like to think its a treatable mindset, but it feels better to wallow in it than actually change it, no matter how painful it eventually becomes. This mindset eventually drains you to the point, where it drives you even farther on giving up and living in some isolated part of the world.

>vent about celibacy

even though i really want to be with someone, i would never do it in a fwb sort of way. I find that truly heartless and disgusting and i believe that participating in that will just push me over the edge. I really want to have sex with someone i love and who knows me (bad and good parts) and who i feel safe with. The problem is that I have such a debilitating mindset towards myself that i prevent myself from actually cultivating a healthier mindset and eventually relationship. I just feel so hopeless, and trying to motivate myself to get better just feels like its never going to happen and i am in denial, it feels wrong being happy or wanting to be happy. I also am just afraid of settling for someone to satisfy external pressures. I really want a family and love of course, but i dont want to just get married and get knocked with someone i dont even love or can trust, so i rather do myself a favor and consecrate myself. Oh yea, and i am catholic, and even more so i am terrified of meeting someone of the catholic faith because most of the ones i have seen are "political". Its all so tiring, and just thinking about how stupid and tiring some people can be makes me want to give up even more. I still hold onto hope, but its hard to apply when you are faced with mental illness and weird people all around you.

>what are your interests ? ( just curious, not necessarily related )

I love arts and crafts. I am not good at it, but i really love it. I also have a major love for graphic novels/comics/manga/manwha anything with pictures really. Or light and comfy childrens books. I also really enjoy learning about new crafts and ways to practice my art skills (which is my main hobby), or just new things in general. I also enjoy learning new weird recipes and make them for me to munch on. I also enjoy looking into small obscure fashion blogs and writing small book reviews and poems. and lastly, i really enjoy listening, learning about music, and collecting CDs. I want to learn how to play a guitar (VOX teardrop guitar specifically) and just strum my whole day away. Actually i think my hobbies sort of contribute to my femcel mentality, because i have so many hobbies and i am sensitive and i just dont want to be criticized nor derailed from them lol

Anonymous 64828


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