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I'm one of the few nonas who's not a feminist/misandrist, so I don't hate you or all men, but I just get so fatigued by men as a rule of thumb acting like cruel walking contradictions. I don't hate anyone based on how they're born, I just hate male culture and their incessant need to look good to other men and maintain status instead of being kind and empathetic. Most other men would call you a "beta soi cuck pussy faggot" for being sincerely nice to cute little animals, and that's somehow enough peer pressure for most men to overhaul their personality and become fuckboy douchebags so other men will call them based chads. 4chan calls all my husbandos "beta cucks" and it drives me insane that so many men have this association of kindness with being weak or pathetic.

"Why do you guys hate me so much? :(" is something I feel much more strongly as a woman towards males than males will ever feel towards women. Men have treated me like garbage my whole life when I've tried to do everything right and make them happy, and I still wish they'd accept and approve of me despite them believing I'm an insentient subhuman automaton for being born with a vagina. I don't have the inner strength for separationism like most of the (honestly much smarter) women here. I do love men but I have to cope with it being one way affection, respect and admiration they will never return. I've never gone for assholes, bad boys, "the top 2%" or whatever other retardation. I do practically all my socialisation with males in nerd/hobby spaces, and they always self-sabotage by treating me like their DEI feminazi intruder headcanon when I never supported anything like that, and act like it's emasculating for a woman to like the same things as them.

I'm rambling and going kinda off on a tangent. I'd love if men and women got along, but men have unapologetically hated women for centuries. Misogyny is an ancient invention. Misandry is relatively new and the severity pales in comparison. I have yet to see a man-hating feminist go on a mass shooting spree targeting males. When women genuinely hate men, they just go WGTOW and leave you alone. They don't make you fear for your life or unironically advocate taking your human rights and freedom away. Men hate all women because some woman in the bible did a bad thing, but then freak out and screech "not all men" when women judge them collectively for the actions of an individual. Men get offended, pull the mental health card and start threatening to kill themselves over misandry that would be the mildest, tamest misogyny if you flipped the genders, and then they call women hysterical and emotional. Sheesh.

>>12911
I like being nice to people though. That’s what’s based

>>12912
That is based, and if true of you then hugely relieving. It sucks getting blamed for stuff you didn't do, trust me I know, but you're not hated by virtue of your penised existence outside of fringe radical feminism.

I have always had to pretend to be male or get excluded even when I was a kid because so many boys and men hate girls and women so much they won't tolerate one in their presence. I've seen men say they've clicked on videos about their interests, heard a woman speaking, and immediately clicked off. Again, outside of extreme feminists, I don't think women do that to men.

It's nice if you're nice, and please never stop being nice, it just feels a bit tone deaf to come to a site that exists to be a little break away from non-stop woman hate, just to ask women why they're so hateful. If it bums you out that a dead, obscure imageboard fork hates you, I don't know how you'd cope if 95% of the internet was actively dedicated to degrading you with sheer vitriol and trying to change laws because they believe your intelligence is equal if not lower than a child or animal. I don't understand why men being hateful is just regular traditional internet culture, but women being hateful is grossly offensive and questionable.

If it makes you feel any better, we'll both get in trouble since I replied to you instead of reporting on sight. Though I'd much rather see adorable animal videos than CP and doodoofeces like men usually post on here, which is another hateful thing I don't see women doing to men.

>>12913
pretty well said

>>12911
Yeah, the misogyny and sexism is really exhausting.
>I do practically all my socialisation with males in nerd/hobby spaces, and they always
Why are you hanging around with sexist men? Do you really have no better options? What kind of shitty place do you live in?
I'll admit that I'll deal with some casual misogyny from guys if it's a friend's friend (especially if it's really obvious cluelessness and lack of self-awareness rather than hatred and cruelty on their side), but I'll still challenge and antagonise them when the opportunity presents itself. I don't actually want guys like that around my friends and I don't want them around me either.
You deserve better than hanging out with these losers. There are good, kind men out there and if you can't find them in whatever hellhole you're stuck in, can't you hang out with cool women instead? I used to be closer to boys as a kid because my nerdy interests were more aligned with theirs, but I've since found that there are a lot of women in the same situation and once we find each other, we can just hang out together without having to compromise on how much abuse we take for wanting to be part of a community.
>I'm not a feminist/misandrist I desperately want to be liked by men
You know, the "pickme" is often thrown around as an insult and it's usually meant for women who will perpetuate misogyny for personal gain, but I can imagine that someone would view you this way as well. I feel really bad for you, for having the "feminism" label poisoned by hateful men who get offended at the thought of women standing up for themselves, who cast us as "stupid bitches frothing at the mouth about their rights" or whatever they make of women wanting rights, wanting equal pay, respect, bodily autonomy. That kind of hatred has been around since the existence of feminism and even when women couldn't vote, some women would be quick to say "Oh no no no, I'm not one of those crazy feminists, I'm a kind and patient woman who doesn't hate men" like, this isn't new but it's still sad to see because this kind of view usually stems from being bombarded with misogynist rhetoric. The men around me view feminism as a good and pretty normal thing and I often see little feminist stickers on street lamps and such in town which warms my heart, I wish everyone got to experience that to mitigate the impact of the hatred you see online…

>>12913
You seem really nice actually. I wish the world could have treated you better