/feels/ - Advice & Venting

>>12543
That's why I joined 4b

>>125436
Nta but what is the point ?

>>125440
But you have to dig through a perpetual pile of unattractive, porn addicted garbage to find any so what's the point ?

>>125434
>>125457
Do you think you're a top 2% woman?
If not why should one of these 2% you feel entitled to settle for you?

I hate how entitled they feel towards women bodies when they look like absolute piss gremlins that don’t wash their ass or take care of themselves yet open their filthy germ pilled mouths to talk about what women are attractive to them. Burn them all

>>125459
Sounds like projection

>>125458
The point is that most women are infinitely more attractive in looks and personality than scrotes. It doesn't matter what you look like if 99% of scrotes look like horses ass, and women are gauranteed to be prettier and more emotionally intelligent. A scrote is guaranteed to give nothing of the same value back. So there is no point. Which i guess is why the male loneliness epidemic is so bad. Supposing a ton of women collectively feel the same.

>>125464
Not to mention if it means sorting through the rat turd pile id rather just stay home. It's too unpleasant. Not worth wasting your life.

>>125440
"affection" spends most of his time pissing you off, annoying you, and making you have sex with him whenever he feel like it, which is everyday, no matter if you want to or not. Get a boyfriend then see how green the grass is.

They look hideous and sit back in their ass sweat stained chairs critiquing the shit out of every "flaw" in beautiful women. Seen so many scrotes cheat on objectively attractive girls for some perceived flaw meanwhile they looked like they crawled out of a sewage pipe

>>125770
for real. my ugly ass brother does this all the time and he doesn’t even groom himself. where do these scrotes get their audacity?

>>125483
This is how I feel towards all the women in feels lamenting no Nigel. It's not that great I know from experience.

>>125770
Then when they are remotely young / attractive their personalities are intolerably manipulative and opportunistic in this cavalier way. They still act like everyone owes them everything, they can do no wrong even when their personalities are insufferable

>>125770
This post screams that your only exposure to men is through imageboards. Most men irl are very stupid but mostly normal.

>>125807
This cope is always so hilarious to me. Normie women feel this way about men too. It’s why we have a “male loneliness epidemic”.

>>125807
So ugly while demanding women to be hot ? Or attractive with a horrible personality ? You don't have to go far to find normal like that

>>125883
we have loneliness epidemic in general.

>>125434
You don't need to find them attractive. You can still be lesbian, aroace or join 4b. But if you find them attractive sexually while being repulsed, you have my condolences…
Not being in a relationship is better than being in a shitty relationship and just having woman friends can be very fulfilling, you don't really need men…
>>125807
Imageboard men do exist irl unfortunately, I've had the misfortune of meeting some myself… Way too many men I've met seemed normal at first only to turn out to hold some really sexist beliefs. I'm not gonna be friends with someone who views me as sub-human. Better men do exist, but it sucks to have to check. It's way less of a problem when getting to know women.

>>125912
I truly wish I was lesbian.

I've had a few sapphic attractions but I'd be hesitant to approach lesbians worried of not being lesbian enough. I've not had any experiences with female relationships, only male. None of the males were ugly just … I guess I wasn't attracted to their personalities and i was too obsessed with work at the time.

Yes I do need to find men attractive. Its central to everything. The only thing that matters otherwise deals off. Their personalities matter to. But being an attractive woman with someone I'm not attracted to seems completely out of balance and and like male-brain garbage to me

>>125935
>I've had a few sapphic attractions
Go for it
>worried of not being lesbian enough
In what way? I'm on the aromantic and asexual spectrum, so I used to be worried about that in general, until I figured that I just need to be honest about my feelings before entering a relationship. I'd prefer a relationship without sex, it doesn't mean I love my partner less, just differently.
>being an attractive woman with someone I'm not attracted to seems completely out of balance
Yeah, ofc. Sorry, I misworded what I meant.
>You don't need to find men attractive
I meant that as in, you don't need to date men at all if you don't like them for whatever reason.
>lesbian, aroace
You can't actually just change your sexuality ofc, but you could check if you're really heterosexual and not comphet. And if you are somewhat bi, you could date women and even if you are only attracted to men, you still don't need to date them. 4b is all about not giving men that kind of attention regardless of attraction.
>Outraged that I'm supposed to find most scrotes attractive
Are you really "supposed" to? You can't really choose your sexuality, if you're not that attracted to people, you don't need to force yourself. But if you are attracted to men naturally, that's unfortunate, given your view of them.

>>125936
>Are you really "supposed" to
Well, yes, I guess women are expected to be heterosexual. I tried to force myself to be attracted to random boys at school just to fit in when I was asked about crushes, it was to the point that even I started to believe it. Until a boy asked me out and I had to face reality. I just didn't want to date at all and if I got to pick, I'd actually prefer my girl friends as girlfriends, but also not in a sexual way. It took me so long to figure out my actual preferences because I was preoccupied with what and how I'm "supposed" to be attracted to people.

>>125937
>I just didn't want to date at all and if I got to pick, I'd actually prefer my girl friends as girlfriends, but also not in a sexual way

Thats just means you are not ready for dating. I mean thats perfectly normal, not everybody needs to date and if you go out to date, either men or women, when all you want it seems to be to chill with your friends, you are actually forcing yourself to end up in uncomfortable situations.

>>125938
Yeah, I felt that way until I had an actual crush at 20.
Made me feel very out of place since all of my friends were dating or at the very least interested in it, like 10 years earlier than me. I'm almost 30 now and I noticed that I only really get crushes on people I've been friends with for like at least 3 years. More romantically than sexual though, so I'd say I'm demiromantic asexual since that's what that describes. I don't feel abnormal about it anymore, it's just how I am ig. I do wish I'd figured out that this kind of asexuality is normal earlier though, because I did force myself into some uncomfortable situations in my late teens… Especially after reading about how totally effective arranged marriages are, that feelings will just develop if you force yourself to be with someone of the opposite gender (because "men and women can't be friends, they'll date" or sth) or that women aren't truly interested in sex anyway but they have it because they care so much about their bfs and just trying out sex will make me like and crave it anyway and all that garbage. (One of my friends really did crave sex and I thought, "sex must be so good, I'll feel just like her after I do it, I just gotta bring myself to do it"). I'm glad I didn't take it too far in the end though, my partner never pressured me or anything although I did feel immense guilt when I didn't just fall in love and want sex after doing very uncomfortable kissing and stuff. (I even tried to work myself up to it by fantasising and thinking of him when masturbating, but it didn't really change anything). Wasn't great for either of us but I'm glad that it didn't go as far as it could've gone. I should've taken it easy back then and just focused on my friends instead of trying to force something I wasn't feeling, but whenever I told people I didn't have a crush nor type, they straight up didn't believe me and accused me of lying and stuff, kinda sucked…

>>125936
Thanks I'm just ranting really. I know I don't "have" to find men attractive I just want to shout into the void my irritation. I'm actually 4b. I'm not closed off to dating women I just don't want to hurt them. Did I mention I got out of all of my relationships? I genuinely start feeling claustrophobic in them. Up until now at least.

i can still feel attraction towards them though. So sometimes I genuinely wonder if someone wouldn't make me want to run for the hills… But I'm resigned to assume no, because it's happened so mNy times I just don't date.

But I refuse to experiment in ways that hurt lesbians just for my own gain no matter how cute I find them sometimes. I get claustrophobic but I don't rope people info it.

The thing with men though is complicated. I'm on the opposite side of the universe from men and what they want, there's too much to unpack.

>>125937
That was me too, ages ago. I thought I had to give it a shot and I broke them all off.