/hb/ - Health & Beauty

I'm an average 65in/165 cm, and I wish I was smaller. I'd kill to be your height anon; feel free to take my unwanted inches.

I like my guys tall because I have a thing for size difference (prob why I want to be shorter). 6'0 and above is hawt and perfect for hugging

I'm around 171-170-169 cm (for some reason it changes lmao), so pretty average by today standards.
I don't mind any kind of height and never wished i was any other height or judged someone by their height. Imo proportions are far more important than cm's, a tall person with bad proportions can seem a lot smaller and frumpier regardless of height than a short person with good proportions.

i.e i have a long torso and average-short legs, so sometimes i appear smaller in photos compared to shorter people with longer legs.

I also don't mind the height on guys and would date a dude shorter than me if i liked him, but the problem is that a lot of short guys seem to be insecure little shits with manlet complex and it gets tiring real fast so it's easier to date a tall/average dude since they aren't obsessed with height.

>>3022
I think it depends more on where you are because 170 would be relatively tall where I'm from and tbh it's a perfect height for women imo. Not too short, not too tall. Just perfect.

>>3018
149 cm
I wish I was tall! I feel so stubby I can't layer clothing or it shrinks me, I'd be much prettier if I was taller
I really don't understand the obsession with being short, i know lots of girls like the idea of being small but it sucks
I know being tall also has it cons but I want longer legs and to be well proportioned
And I don't care for guys lol

5'10 here;
even though i'm from a rather 'tall' country, the average guy is still shorter (and even if they're taller it doesn't mean they want a tall girlfriend as well)

Since i was a child i always suffered because of it, teachers etc. everybody 'forgetting' how young i am and then having high expectations because tall = older…
If you think kids are cruel about stuff like this, they're probably nothing against the adults i encountered; complete strangers randomnly throwing in a "Why are you so tall!?" upon our first meeting… or of course the worst: You look like a man!

That does wonders to a young girl's confidance…
So whenever i hear a shorter girl complain, i bet you were never called manly, 100% of all guys would be 'dateable' for you and if your pants are too long? - just shorten them, i have to freeze in winter since not a single coat has long enough arms! I can't just put on a pair of shoes that can magically make me shorter.

Since i know how terrible it feels to be made fun of for something you can't change, i would never openly mock a short person to their face, BUT it's always the below average ones that treat me the worst

(And look at the thread pic; it's a cute normal looking girl and not a tall girl but a freak; that's how society sees us)

im 157cm and oh boy
do i HATE it.
i cant reach alot of shelves, i have to look up to talk to people which is kinda humiliating, any single pound i gain automatically shows up.


i always wanted to be like 182 with long lengs.
well, impossible dreams amirite.

161 cm / 5'3"
I like my height. It's just slightly below average so I don't have to feel like I'm super short or have trouble finding clothes/shoes.
For some reason people actually think I'm taller than I really am, like 170 cm / 5'5". Might be the shoes or dress style idk
As for guys, I don't really care.

Bf is 5'7" and I think that's "perfect" for us since I like a height difference. I'd date a tall or short guy tho, doesn't really matter if the personality's right.

i'm 4'11/151cm and i don't want to be any taller.
i just wish my arms would ~*magically*~ extend so i could reach more stuff but that's pretty much it.
height for girls doesn't matter but sadly it matters for dudes.

~153cm/5'0"

I'm obviously used to it, but it gets super annoying how EVERYONE seems to get so surprised when I walk by and they walk into me, I'm short not invisible.

People feel like they can be super touchy with me, as well. More than they are with people their height or taller. Is that just me, or do others have this happen to them?

The weight thing, as other anons have mentioned. Not to mention, fucked up proportions. Even at smaller sizes, nothing off the rack fits nicely because they're just scaled down versions of normal sizes/proportions.

I'd prefer a shorter guy, but my bf is 6'1". I look like an actual hobbit in comparison. I don't like standing next to him in photos, it looks stupid.

>>3025
Thank you for sharing your experience. I'll definitely admit it's easier to adjust clothing when you have too much fabric versus too little. Where I'm from, being tall = being attractive/modelesque, so I've always wanted to be taller. I'm also not attracted to men and I wish I could be taller than my potential gf, but the problem with that is then she'd be shorter than 5'4'' and I don't prefer girls that short.

This is somewhat of a case-by-case basis, but I feel like at least the negative effect of being taller where people think you are more mature than you really are (because of height) at least fades away (correct me if I'm wrong) when you are an adult. I'm on the shorter side of average, but most people refer to me as tiny, little, etc. because I'm skinny and have a babyface. It's a bad combination. I'm an adult yet people think upon meeting me I'm a child/young teen. No matter what combination of makeup/clothing I wear at work, people think I'm a volunteer because I appear "too young" to work there. I try to assert myself, but it comes across to other people as silly. It's maddening to be treated as a child when you're an adult. I feel like if I were taller, people wouldn't jump to that conclusion. It sucks, too, because when people know me well, they often comment I can articulate myself, etc. so I doubt it's due to my speech or mannerisms that people think I'm a child. I feel hopeless sometimes because I feel as if I have to work twice as hard as other people in my groups at college to be seen as an equal.

Anyway, to be fair, one of your problems is that men don't like a tall woman, and I admit I wouldn't have that problem with other people's perception, nor do I have to deal with clothes not properly covering my body. I just thought I'd share how the opposite side of people seeing you as immature when you're an adult sucks.

I think I prefer average or short girls, between 5'0" and 5'7", anything over that is too much. Tall women who appear very confident might be off putting because of the "I'm a strong woman I don't need no man" vibes.

>>3031
>"I'm a strong woman I don't need no man" vibes.
Those are good vibes though

>>3032
You shouldn't be surprised to see a lot of over 5'10" women who are single or going after most guys who reject them, then.

>>3030
A lot of people say "Oh being tall is great, models are tall" well, but sadly i am no model; just because you're tall doesn't mean you're perfectly skinny with a gorgeous face, so just because men are attracted to models, doesn't mean they'll automatically like you as well

>>3031
Many tall women might give of this vibe, but as a matter of fact being ridicouled as a child for being too tall etc usually results in less confidence

So looking cold/unapproachable + being too shy to approach someone = forever alone

>>3030
Sorry but you're 5'4, you're no dwarf, so quit bragging about how hard it is to be so sm0l and babyfaced

>>3036
I know right. Women who aren't under 5'1" and talk about being short or tiny are legit fucking weird and give off really gross vibes. 5'4" is quite literally the taller side of average height universally. >>3030's whole post makes them sound extremely out of touch anyway so you do the math.

Anyone who's telling a girl they're short at 5'4" is usually some dumb ass guy trying to coddle the girl or obnoxious relatives with the same motives.

>>3036
>>3037
No idea why you're all acting butthurt or as if I'm "bragging". It's not been a positive experience in my life at all and I feel shitty about it. I've always preferred women with mature-featured faces who are taller, and I definitely wish I were taller. It's so fucking ridiculous people think that I'm "bragging" about being treated as a child when it's humiliating.


I said:
>I'm on the shorter side of average
because I am. I was not trying to imply I'm short, only that I'm on the shorter side of average and if I were taller that I think people would treat me more like an adult. Maybe it is taller universally, but where I'm from I'd say it's as I said: shorter side of average. I have to roll up most of my pants and I can't wear "mini" skirts because they aren't short enough.

>Anyone who's telling a girl they're short at 5'4" is usually some dumb ass guy trying to coddle the girl or obnoxious relatives with the same motives.
I agree, it's annoying, though it's not just guys that call me that. It feel like it's an attempt of people to put me in my place.

I'm 5'2"
I wish I were 5'10"
I guess guys like shorter girls more, but it's kind of a waste since I don't have the right disposition for men to be attracted to me. If I were taller I could probably model.

I've started considering carrying around a collapsible footstool or something. Sitting chairs like a proper adult legit cuts circulation in my knees after a while. Do they make ergonomic chairs for short people? This was a huge issue for me when I used to work in an office.

>>3038
If you're actually on the short side of short, hearing about how hard it is to be 5'4", even if it's on the shorter side of average for your area, sounds a little weird tbh. It's just around average. I think people are treating you that way for more reasons other than your height. I've never had people seem like they're "putting me in my place" and I sit in chairs like pic related lmao.

>>3025
I'm op. Sorry for the thread gif, I didn't really mean to make people feel that way. I googled something like tall and short girls and that was one of the few interesting gifs I found, I didn't think it would be offensive at first, so I apologize.

It's not that I hate my height so much as my body type. I'm so stocky. A few inches would balance me out.

I like men who are closer to my height (within the 5'4''-5'7'' range.)

>>3038
>I can't wear "mini" skirts because they aren't short enough
Wow, that must hurt!

Just face it, your height is simply average, no matter where you're from; yet you come to a thread in which both really short and really tall girls share their troubles.
One day you'll be old and then you'll wish back the days you looked younger. What do you think is worse? Being treated like child whilst being a young adult or being treated like a freak all your life?

>>3039
Why is it that all of you shorter girls always go on and on about modeling?
It's one of the most unrealistic jobs and just because you're tall doesn't mean you can model, even if you're gorgeous as well, you might not make it.
And even if you would meet all these standards, maybe you simply don't want to, because there's more to life than starving yourself as a young girl and then being deemed too old at like 25?
It feels as if you've got the impression that all tall girls do is model

Most people would take being able to find a loving partner over being tall and the 0,0…1% chance of becoming a model

>>3044
>Why is it that all of you shorter girls always go on and on about modeling?
Honestly that anon sounds like they think they've got the looks for modeling just not the height. Which is usually the attitude short(er) people have about tall = model. Talk to anyone who doesn't think/knows they don't have the stuff to be a model and they'll tell you just about anything else about tall girls.

>>3038
>I can't wear "mini" skirts because they aren't short enough.
Huh? Where the hell are you shopping? I'm 4'9" and have no problem finding miniskirts that fit well. Higher end but affordable stores online sell xxxs and xxs if you're really having trouble but I can walk into any h&m and buy a 00 skirt and it'll fit just fine.

>>3044
>Being treated like child whilst being a young adult
Fuck me, I walk into restaurants and still get offered crayons as long as I'm not wearing makeup and waitresses don't even acknowledge me if eating out with family. The looks I get when I'm out in public drinking are equivalent to that of someone watching a unicorn being murdered right before their eyes.

On another note, any other short girls have a hard time finding a date because people auto assume you're a child? (Tried dating sites for years and the people on there are fucked up, seriously the amount of assholes and fetishists) I'm going to be 40 and alone before someone realizes that I'm available.

In any case, this entire thread needs to be labelled "the grass isn't greener". There are pros and cons to being tall, short, and average. Existing sucks no matter what you look like.

>>3038
>I can't wear "mini" skirts because they aren't short enough.

Huh, but i'm >>3022 (so 170 cm or so) and most miniskirts barely cover my ass, if they are circle skirts they will actually show my ass if i bend even just a little bit or walk too fast so i had to resign to buying knee length skirts or close to that lenght, so idk how a 5'4 person couldn't wear them as "mini", unless you actually want them to show your ass like they do in taller people.
Where do you shop for that to be a problem for your height?

>>3047
>>3044
Why are you pressed? I was using the mini-skirt statement to demonstrate that (along with having to always roll up pant legs) I may be average height, but I still have "height" related fitting issues. I already established that I think it's worse for clothes overall to not be long enough.

> Being treated like child whilst being a young adult or being treated like a freak all your life?
I can't fucking order coffee without people asking me if I'm allowed to drink that. I would rather be respected now and not be affected in the workplace and in general because of how people count me out on first glance because of the age they think I look.

>Most people would take being able to find a loving partner over being tall and the 0,0…1% chance of becoming a model
A lot of people don't necessarily mean becoming a famous model, they mean being any kind of model i.e. catalog work, etc.

>>3046
>>3047
It's probably because I have somewhat shorter legs in comparison to my torso regarding the mini skirt sizing.

>>3050
?
I'm not the same anon as >>3044, i don't understand why you tagged us both as "pressed" but okay.

Also, my mother is 164 cm with short legs and most "mini" (and even midi, sometimes) skirts and dresses at h&m and similar stores still manage to be a little too short for her, so i seriously don't understand how is it so difficult to find "mini" skirts for you, that's why i was so confused why it seems to be such a huge problem because of your height.

>>3046
>>3050
You two must look seriously fucked up then, because even elemantary students are no longer offered crayons and are allowed to drink coffee…

But yeah i guess you proofed it to all tall miners here, that being 'treated like a child' is far worse than being called a man and monster since earliest childhood, congrats

>>3053
I never said anything about proving anything to tall miners, my post was more than neutral so why did you tag me?

>>3053
>even elemantary students are no longer offered crayons
Lolwot. You must have 0 family members that are younger than you and/or don't go outside at all.
>you two must look seriously fucked up
I'm guessing your rage and envy towards short girls glossed over the part where I said as long as I'm not wearing makeup, which all women look 10 times younger without it. Just like your rage blinded you from reading the rest of my post which has nothing to do with anything you're nagging about. You sound mental.

>>3055
>>3046
I’m 4’11” and never had an issue being mistaken for younger than my age. People now might think I’m in my early twenties (instead of late twenties), but haven’t been mistaken for underage since like 13…

>>3058
A woman who is 5'5" at my job tell me she gets mistaken for being underage all the time. Even if I didn't know some of the men at my job's ages, I'd think they were underage if I didn't know them and saw them on the street too, but we're all in our early 20s. It doesn't mean anyone is fucked up looking, that anon sounds super salty about not being uguu tiny. It has to do with society's expectations and that 30 year old actors play high school kids on films and tv shows and people are naturally younger looking than others due to genetics, how much one smokes, drinks, lifestyle choices, etc.

What's our obsession with being "ugu so smol and tiny uwu" anyways
There's so many memes for short girls about how cute and funny it is being small I sell some of my clothing on depop and the top pic is the comment she left after I told her the dress was an American meduim and the bottom pic is her bio on her profile , why do you feel the need to tell everyone your so teeny tiny petite?? (She wanted an Asian size meduim)
i think it's okay to tell the seller your measurements! That's not the issue but she sounds like the type of person who tells everyone at any given chance that they're "smol uwu"
I sound like a bitter bitch haha so sorry! I'm short too but seeing girls like this makes me realize why tall girls hate us

>>3053
>waaah people call me a freak and say i look like a monster!! im the victim! :(
>"you two must seriously look fucked up"
Pot, meet kettle. You deserve all the generic "bad" things people say about you.

>>3060
That's stupid to take it out on short girls over something no one can control. They're just targets for bitter bitches to take their rage out on. Maybe no one likes tall girls because they're miserable and spiteful, not because of their height which is more sought after than being short unless youre a weeb.

>>3061
You okay anon? Need a hug?

>>3061
Did you even read where I said I'm short myself? (I'm even smaller than her ) It's not that much of a read you could do it I believe in you
It's just annoying when girls act like it's the most important quality about themselves, being so small?? I don't get it it's annoying

>>3061
>Maybe no one likes tall girls because they're miserable and spiteful
>being this bitter over tall girls and generalize us as miserable because of a few anons

oof anon are you okay thats some fine projecting you are doing, need to talk about it?

>>3051
That was a mistake, I messed up, I'm sorry.
I think it's because to me mini is tight, short, and around 7-8 inches long, which on me looks too long in front and is a tad long in the back for the look I'm going for. Short, pleated skirts fit fine. I'm sorry I wasn't more specific with what I meant.

>>3053
>But yeah i guess you proofed it to all tall miners here, that being 'treated like a child' is far worse than being called a man and monster since earliest childhood, congrats
I don't see it as a competition. They are both negative experiences to go through and it's frustrating when it happens to you when you're a kid, but then you still deal with it as an adult and it seems intolerable by then.

Personally, I feel intimidated by tall girls because my natural reaction regardless of how pretty they are is "how, they're so tall and modelesque, I wish I could look that powerful/graceful" and I feel like they'll treat me like a child because I feel smaller than normal around them. I definitely don't think anything like "monster" or "freak", though. I see being tall as a positive thing and I guess it's also because I knew multiple couples growing up where the girl was significantly taller than the guy.

//I know this one opinion doesn't matter in the long run and I'm not trying to say it doesn't suck being tall if it is for any tall anons out there

>>3061
She sure looks spiteful and jealous of these tiny, smol cuties…

>>3066
>Personally, I feel intimidated by tall girls

And that is one of the problems:
most people can't or probably don't even try to hide that they're scared of taller girls and no human being deserves to be looked at and treated like something scary.
That's exactly what causes tall young girls to feel so insecure, they also want to be liked, look approachable and sometimes not "strong nd powerful" but instead, for a thing they can't change, you think it's justified to treat them as some sort of 'threat' (even if you're actually just in awe)
They're normal people like anybody else, so don't look at them ar treat them as something alienish

>>3068
Yes your post does, good job proving her point. Way to go out of your way to cherrypick some random image with 0 context so you can give that anon a (You). The whole thread is assblasted tall man-anons with victim complexes while the short/average ones are trying to have genuine discussion. Cringe.

>>3081
>tall man-anons
…

>>3060
It’s always girls over 5’0” who go on about how ~small~ they are.

>>3088
But they are.
Anything under 5'2" is small though. The average height for women is 5'4".

Since there were always fights going on in this thread, i thought it would be nice to have separate threads for tall and short girls.
Because i'm tall myself i made one for tall girls >>3090 so maybe if a short girl would be willing to make one as well…?

>Which one are you?
i'm tall/ 5'11
>Do you wish you could change your height?
no. i've never wanted to be short. if anything it would be cool to be 6'
>Does it even matter that much when it comes to dating?
not for me. the guys that like my type aren't the ones who specifically seek out short girls, or they just don't have much of a preference for height, so it isn't a problem.
>And for guys, do you have a preference?
i usally like guys who are my height give or take. guys who tower over me freak me out since i'm so not used to it.

>Which one are you?
I guess Im in between? 170 cms

Do you wish you could change your height?
Sometimes. Ive always had body image issues and I live in a country where most women are shorter and thinner so I feel like Chewbacca over here.

Does it even matter that much when it comes to dating?
Nah

And for guys, do you have a preference?
Hmm although I prefer tall guys (cause I think its hot when they pick you up etc) most of my exes have been just some centimeters taller than me. Meaning like if I wore heels I would def be taller. I never cared tho.

>>3106
>I guess Im in between? 170 cms
get out

>>3107
Anon is in between though

>>3107
what are you mad about? she isn't tall nor short

>>3109
Tbh this depend on the country, where I am from 5'6 is average female height, so 5'7 is not that tall. Meanwhile in USA average height is 5'3 so 5'7 is already very tall.

>>3109
this is a thread for short and tall girls.

>>3081
>tall man-anons
Really?

>>3050
>I can't fucking order coffee without people asking me if I'm allowed to drink that.
So you want us to believe that you're so smol uwu and cute uwu that people don't even mistake you for a teenager but rather for an actual child? Roflmao

From my experience, short (actually short, not "wah I'm 5'2" so smol") girls look as bad as really tall girls, but don't get the perk of "being able to reach shit". They also get the huge disadvantage that is creepy ass men who're into them (unless they're really desperate and enjoy that, but I can't see this happening).

On the other hand, short-but-not-borderline-midget girls get all the upsides of being considered cute and feminine, fitting into clothes, etc. I find it hard to take their complaints seriously, especially when they're like >>3060 (and let's be real, lots of them are) and only "complain" to humblebrag.

>>3139
>So you want us to believe that you're so smol uwu and cute uwu that people don't even mistake you for a teenager but rather for an actual child? Roflmao
No one said anything about being "smol" or "cute". Regardless of what you or anyone else thinks about my appearance or height, that is what has happened to me and it isn't fun or flattering at all, but rather embarrassing and mortifying. I don't go sperging at tall girls for "humble bragging" when where I live that's considered a beauty ideal for women (especially because I wish I were taller and even so, most people here who are getting angry at this don't wish they were short).

I also think it's interesting how when someone types herself as tall when she's more on the upper end of average that people don't get all huffy and angry like they do if someone does the same for someone who thinks they're short when they're really average.

When i was younger i hated being tall; my only wish was to magically transform into somebody smaller. It came with many disadvantages; boys and girls bullied me, adults had higher expectations, i was always treated like i was older than my friends, even though i was just a little child myself. As a teen i starved myself, constantly hunched over to make myself appear smaller.
But the older i get, the more i like it. Pics like this make me feel better. Always remember that if shorter girls are mean to you, it's always out of jealousy; they might try and convince us (and themselves) that being sm0l is cuter, but no matter how pretty they are, or how skinny, they'll never be able to stand out in a crowd (in a positive way!) like we do

>>3141
Being small generally is cuter though.

Being tall stands out more in a crowd, but is usually more for being "sexy" or "amazonian"

Of course its possible to be tall and cute, small and ugly etc too. Neither is good or bad at the end of the day.

>>3142
I really don't get what's so 'warrior-like' about tall girls, if anything shorter and stockier girls look a lot stronger.
Plus i'd say that the taller you are chances are that to 99% you will also have nice proportions, meaning longer legs and that's something very youthful in my opinion.

>>3144
Really depends on your build either way. Lots of women, independent of height have proportional builds, heavy builds, thin builds etc.

We really shouldn't hate each other for something none of us can't control. Even if a woman is short/tall/average height and ugly, who cares besides men looking for a partner?

>>3058
You're lucky, I guess? I am mistaken for a child or young teen semi-often, or get questioned whether or not I'm a child. I am offered kids menus, kids admission tickets etc. I've been to a work event with my boyfriend and two of his colleagues thought I was his little sister. He's even been mistaken for my dad before. (ugh) I don't know how you've avoided it so successfully unless you have other factors that make you look older, but I know other short girls who experience the same shit. And no, it's not humble-bragging. It's really annoying and humiliating.

I don't know why even stating this fact infuriates taller girls so much. Even in this thread- why can't short girls even mention being short or the issues that come with it, without some tall girl going "REEEEE why do you have to mention being tiny?! stop humble-bragging!"


>>3070
>they also want to be liked, look approachable and sometimes not "strong and powerful"

Yeah, and as a short girl I'd like to hang around tall girls without them side-eyeing me or making passive aggressive remarks about my size.

I, as a tall person have never in my life ' side-eyed' shorter girls (how could i, that would be me vs. nearly everybody else); i have however read the complaints of many tall girls in here on how insecure they are and how they've often gotten bullied.
>man-anons
and comments like that aren't helping either

So please excuse me that building up the confidence of fellow tall women is more of a priority than getting along with everybody…
I really don't understand why it's so hard to comprehend that being called a man is a lot more hurtful than being called a child

>>3147

>I really don't understand why it's so hard to comprehend that being called a man is a lot more hurtful than being called a child

Who called you a man other than dumb bitches in HS? Studies prove tall women are seen as more attractive, wealthy and more intelligent. Being perceived as a dumb child and not being taken seriously is more harmful than that, yes. Especially in a workplace environment.

>>3147
>I really don't understand why it's so hard to comprehend that being called a man is a lot more hurtful than being called a child
………you do realize being considered a child as an adult means you are treated in a way that comes across as insulting to your intelligence, self-awareness, abilities, autonomy, etc. whereas being called a man doesn't mean you lack those characteristics.

Negative experiences such as bullying in your childhood can change your entire life. If i was told i'm some sort of giant abomination for the first 18 years of my life, will the way i perceive myself and therefore how i perform in a professional environment suddenly improve, just because some studies show, that men find tall women (meaning: models) attractive?

You will never know how it feels to be called a man, it's something one can't describe; and no, not just some bitches in HS, also men and some of your fellow short girls here for some reason still find joy in doing that…

>>3146
I'm 5'0" but oblivious. I don't feel like a child and I have a disgusting resting bitch face.

I'm sure people try to treat me like that, but since I'm so oblivious and angry looking I just kind of…brute force myself out of the treatment? Or steamroll my enemies into submission, idk.

>>3150
Lol being tall may be more of prerequisite but as an ugly, angry looking dwarf, I've been given the "man treatment" day in and day out. I mean, people have tried to treat me almost like an actual incel, the "ugly, short man treatment".

I have no words besides my sympathy for how you might feel. I personally found that playing to my strengths help me get over the public perception, but everyone is different.

>>3150
Anon, I'm sorry you had to deal with that kind of treatment from others, and I'm not trying to undermine your experiences. Yes, bullying affects people long-term. The same way taller girls calling me frumpy, midget, baby and undermining me and shit has affected me long-term.

>You will never know how it feels to be called a man, it's something one can't describe

And you will never know how it feels to be called one of the numerous, mean, nasty, horrible things I've been called for being small.

The grass is always greener on the other side etc.

>>3151
You sound like another girl I knew. She was a tiny redhead but always had RBF on and was really abrasive. She was actually quite intimidating despite her size. I kind of admired it in a way, but I could never be like that, it's just the total opposite of my personality.

>>3150
>You will never know how it feels to be called a man, it's something one can't describe
people won't call you a man just because you're tall.
As someone who is short-ish, I got called and confused for a man a lot because of my manners, clothes and sometimes face. So it's not just tall girls who go through this. And I'm sorry you had to go through it too, people suck.


Now if we could stop the whole "x have it worse" that would be great because there's never a winner and the whole this is subjective. [spoiler]and keeps happening in every x vs x thread (skinny vs fat/ big tits vs small etc). It's annoying.[/spolier]

fuck i regret making this thread.

>>3154

tbh, tall vs short discussion is never worthy it. Really.

>>3154
It's not your fault that people can't help themselves into making it a "who has it worse" contest.

I wanted to make a similar thread about breasts and underwear (as in tips, whats normal, helpful links) but it would've boiled down to the same thing as here

>>3156
we could have an underwear thread, but i always see anything to do with breasts devolve into stupid crap…

i'm 185 cm and wouldn't mind being super tall like 200+cm. My parents (physically) abused me and were taller but only slightly and would always make reference as to how it meant they were superior and a complex was created. I would like a shorter bf/gf.

>>3865
lol you're in a tight spot for sure

I guess you'll just have to keep trying people for love, until one of them doesn't get intimidated. You could probably find some tiny man that wants you to take out your sexual frustration on him.

>>3866
If she's 6ft and wants a shorter bf/gf then it actually sounds like she's in a great position to find what she's looking for. Also tall girls are like straight-up Tolkien elves.

>>3889
adjust glasses

Elves and men from Numenorean descent (like Aragorn).

>>4252
oh i don't know frodo baggins

>>4252
oh honey

I'm 154cm tall, I don't mind because tall men see me face from the most cutesy angle.
Never gonna date a man under 180cm though, since I'm terrified my son would then be about my height.

>>4252
this has to be a joke holy shit

>>4264
>Never gonna date a man under 180cm though, since I'm terrified my son would then be about my height.

manlets BTFO

This thread is full of men delete quickly!

>>4913
>but less because they're tall and more because they're less desperate and creepy
This just seems like you're desperately trying to justify your preference. You don't have to.

>>6216
Nah, I have been attracted to short guys in the past…until they open their mouths and say some serial killer level shit or start following me around everywhere or desperately plead for my attention. Have had sexual relations with a short guy before because he was actually sane, but in my experience, most aren't.

>>6219
>tfw manlets are like this to women shorter than them but women who are taller than them have to fight for their attention
I feel bad for you and for me.
Liking short men is a curse. Why are they the way that they are
kms

>>6219
lmao what the fuck are you on about?

>>6221
She's saying a lot of short guys are crazy and lack the ability to laugh things off because of their height.
The gym types are even scarier, because of how easily they snap, the lifting is clearly compensation for their height, and you don't want to be around if he feels slightly emasculated by a six foot guy and he takes it out on you.

I don't know if you're sheltered or a short guy.

>>6222
I hear about this all the time on the internet but I've never seen it happen before. I'll do what I always do and just assume it's an "American thing".

>>6222
Neither. I don't even disagree with what you brought up because that does actually happen, but that's not actually what she said. I was just confused by the fact she tried to draw a line between being a stalker and being short. I don't think I understand.

>>6223
>something I'm unfamiliar with is just America and I sleep better
lmfao goddamn this sounds 2003 becky as fuck.
Actually with height that might make sense that America has a higher rate of it, since they have larger minority groups compared to most first world nations.
African Americans are two inches shorter and Asian Americans are five inches shorter than the average White American.

Would be like being Dutch in China and getting bullied for being a lanky monster.

>I've never seen it happen before
Yeah, sheltered, called it lol.

>>6524
Same height and I too wish I was taller. Like 6'2" or something though (although I could settle for 5'9").
I just avoid voluntarily interacting with (much) taller men because they make me want to die. I feel threatened by anyone bigger than me regardless of gender tbh, and the thought of them being attracted to me like:
>throw around the bedroom
makes me want to vomit.
Men under 5'3" are amazing gifts.

>>6524
Where do you live that 5'6 is an average height for women?

>>6561
>5'8"
>guys make fun of me for being short
jfc, are your male friends giants or are you Scandinavian or something?
I'm a leaf and you'd be the size of an average guy here. I'm a tad shorter than you and still taller than 1 in 10 men kek.
>inb4 tall shaming
No harm meant, tall is good. Not less feminine or anything, etc.

i'm 4'11! that means i'm legally obligated to receive headpats.

i would not change my height.

i don't date, so i wouldn't know.

5'6" and a half here. Sometimes I'll exaggerate tell people I'm 5'7" if they ask, but there's been a couple occasions where a woman stood closer to me and said "no, you're shorter than that because I'm 5'7"." /shrug

I feel really fucking short (and no I'm not from [insert European country where everyone is tall], I'm a burger). I see women in flats who completely tower over me every single day on the train and just about everywhere else. Even my best friends are both 5'10" and it feels like pic related when we're together.


My ideal height would be 5'11", I think. I'm really into androgynous fashion and I feel like I don't quite pull off the andro look at my height. I tried shoe lifts for a while but found they ruined my shoes, so tough shit for me I guess.

Short women have really bad proportions. Short legs. Generally, your limbs tend to get longer with height not so much your torso. So when I sit next to my friends with various heights, we are almost all similar height only when we stand up it changes.

I'm 5'9 myself. I'd say that something like 5'7 is ideal. Not too tall to even tower over some men, but not so small that your proportions look silly.

Men IRL don't care much about height. It seems to be that women obsess far more over it.

>>6642
Ok

I'm around 155 cm - 157 cm (5'2 ish) Yeah, I wish I was tall. I want to have long legs because I have trouble pulling off skirts or wear high tops sneakers/boots with my stubby legs. The only way to counter that chunkiness would be to lose weight..my BMI is around 20, so there's no helping my case.

No, height in dating doesn't matter to me. Majority of men are taller than me anyways.

>>6767
I have trouble pulling off skirts, high tops sneakers and boots with my stubby legs*

>>6767
Just go the other way and weightlift for thunder-thighs. That way they can make up for their lack of length with plenty of width!

I'm short (153cm) and always been so insecure and self-conscious about it.
All my life I assumed you had to be tall to be pretty or hot, and to be considered attractive by most people. I really liked the amazonian/goddess/elf/ethereal look some models have and thought I could never get a bf because I'm not like that, I'm short and can never look hot or sexy. I thought I could never be in a relationship and started to accept it. I just took it for granted that guys, especially tall guys, would never like a short girl like me so I would make myself like short guys only and when I saw that they had tall girlfriends or showed interest in tall girls I'd get quite upset tbh and would hate myself even more. I liked some guys who were handsome or had a cute face but happened to be tall so I would tell myself “I can’t like him, he's too tall for me, I'd never have a chance".
I'd obsess so much about my height that I'd search for celebrities' heights and if they were short I'd feel a bit better. I'd search the height of every famous person I could think of and finding shorter actresses or celebrities was harder but when I did I'd feel like "wow, they made it despite being short" or "it's crazy how people think they're attractive when they're so short!".
It's like I was in my own world or in a bubble or something. And I had this mindset till 19 or 20 (I'm 22 now), it's crazy now that I think about it. Oh and I'd listen to subliminals to get taller, and spend hours trying to find ways or exercises to increase my height. It never crossed my mind that maybe there might be some tall women out there who wish they were shorter, I just took it for granted that they were happy and confident about their height because why would anyone want to be short anyway?

I'm 174, and even though I was pretty insecure about it when I was younger (pic related), I really love it now and would enjoy being taller.

I used to be into tall guys, but since I've been with my 195cm bf for three years now, it doesn't really matter to me anymore. After a while you stop noticing the height difference anyways.

>>6781
A-are you implying your 195cm bf isn't tall?

>>6777
>It's like I was in my own world or in a bubble or something. And I had this mindset till 19 or 20 (I'm 22 now), it's crazy now that I think about it.

How did you get over your insecurity?

5'. Being short, small, and baby faced means people rarely taking you seriously. That doesn't feel good. The jokes/references about my height I'm mostly happy with it, I just wish other people would shut up sometimes. I'm not trying to make is sound negative, being me is good. Luckily unlike the others, juniors section. While harder to find adult clothes, I can always find at least something at reasonable prices.
>Does it even matter that much when it comes to dating?
I didn't perceive any negatives from normal guys, emphasis from normal guys. For guys too tall can be intimidating, 5'10 (my guy) is perfect.

>>6783
I'm saying he is very tall and after dating him for a while I stopped noticing, which is why I don't care about height in men as much as I used to

My height is pretty average and I'm happy with it. It doesn't really matter when it comes to dating, and I have no height preferences when it comes to guys.

>>6787
The first "couple" makes me sad about my height. It looks like an awkward dad giving his daughter a peck, not like a loving boyfriend kissing his girlfriend. I'll make sure to only fall for guys around my height kek.

>>6791
>caring about how your relationship looks to others
Why are so many people like this?

>>6793
Because we live in a society surrounded by other people.

You know, just now I saw a male user on Youtube making fun of men who date short, cute-looking girls for being pedophiles. I wouldn't want my boyfriend to be seen as a pedophile by his male friends.

>>6798
Those hypothetical boy's friends don't sound a lot like friends, to me. Maybe your hypothetical boyfriend should make some new ones.

>>3018
4'9
I love my height. Only down side is finding clothes that fit proper and I can't reach cabinets. I wish I had a tall gf like in the OP I would worship her.

>>3018
I'm 5'7/170 cm. I like my height, sometimes I wish I was taller but never shorter. I think short girls are cute and I would like to have a short best friend to hug sometimes.
I like tall guys. Extremely tall guys. I like being tall myself but I like feeling small. Does that make sense?

>>6791
To me it looks cute. What a small girl can also do is also push on the guy's shoulders and force him down onto his knees, while she bends forward slightly and kisses him that way. Cute as hell.

>>6798
Some of them are…

>>3018
Very tall for my people(Japan) at 188cm
Sometimes wish I was 5'0 but my legs helped me a lot in track and field events and its a somewhat fun social dynamic.
It limits the amount of guys that are interested most definitely. Eh more guys are looking for a casual fling with a tall girl than a relationship in my local experience
Some girls like it, girls I was involved with seemed to like me being so much taller than them

>Which one are you?
5'8 so taller side of average
>Do you wish you could change your height?
Sometimes I wish I could be taller but I like my height
>Does it even matter that much when it comes to dating?
It's hard to find guys my height or shorter that aren't extremely insecure about their height.
>And for guys, do you have a preference?
I love manlets.

>>6781
This picture is how I feel 24/7.

>Which one are you?
Tall, I'm 5'10.
>Do you wish you could change your height?
I'd be willing to give literally everything to be shorter.
>Does it even matter that much when it comes to dating?
I've never had a bf.
>And for guys, do you have a preference?
Most guys are shorter than me and even if they happen to be taller then they might still not like tall girls. I've never had anybody be interested in me, therefore I can't afford to be picky.

i'm 154-156 cm
i like being petite tbh
i have my entire identity ingrained in being the "smol one" and sometimes i think it makes my anorexia worse because it's been ingrained in my head as a child that i'm the "skinny, petite one," so i have to maintain that image

>>6781
Thanks for that pic, I had a good chuckle.

I'm also 174 and had similar experiences to you! The past few years have been transformative and now I'm more comfortable and confident with my height. I don't mind dating people who are shorter than me, either. Some of my girlfriends are 5'10" or above and they've had no problems in love. On the other had, I'm socially awkward with crazy aunt energy, but soon my day will come.

I'm 5'2" and I wish I were taller, simply so I could eat more to maintain a low BMI. My tall friend eats maybe twice as much as I do and she's still skinny as fuck. It's humiliating to be only a couple pant sizes smaller than someone who's 7 inches taller than me.

I feel like average height is the least desired. Either guys want women above 170cm or below 160, most of them would put both the extremes above the average.

I agree women value height even more than men, but sometimes I wish I was either shorter or taller.

>>7781
>tfw size difference fetishist and am a measly 168 cm
I fucking hate my height, if only my legs were longer since I have a tall girl torso and my legs are stubby in comparison.
I'm trying to make up for it by getting beefy, but I think it may be holding me back when seeking short guys. Or maybe not and it's one of my many scapegoats so that I never have to sort out my spergy personality.

>>7782
>perfect idealizations
Pretty sure that's what she meant, perfect is never 160-170 cm.

>>3020
i never thought about it that way before

>>7784
167 cm or 5'6"
Too short to be called tall
Too tall to be called short

>Which one are you?
I'm 5'9'' so tall I guess, although I don't feel so tall lately, all my female friends are around that height
>Do you wish you could change your height?
Nope it's bretty gud, only issue I have is I can't find tights that will properly go up to my ankles and I need a lot of them for my job since I don't want to ruin my pants with bleach again
>Does it even matter that much when it comes to dating?
Not at all, tons of tall people in my country and even so my first bf was slightly shorter than me, never bothered me.
>And for guys, do you have a preference?
Not really, when it comes to height anything is fine I just prefer lanky body types and taller guys tend to have bodies like that more often. I find something appealing in all male heights honestly
>>7810
That's average in my country so it's not a stand out height I suppose

i prefer girls around the same height as me. 5'5-5'9. im 5'8 btw

im 5'1, i like the height i am, my ideal height for a bf/gf would prolly be 5'4" & up. I like big hugs n being lil spoon so i prefer a guy taller than me, but not too tall haha, even my height would be nice :)

>183
>Wish i was much shorter, at least 165
>Kinda
>There was this one guy who was trying to hit on me for months explained it to me like this:
"Not for me, I absolutly love tall girls. Whenever i am in a group or standing at the road crossing with a tall girl next to me, I feel kinda intimidated, but at the same time amused and have thought about coming up to them and trying to get their number. To me they're like a mountain you want to conquer, getting their attention, making them attracted to you feels like a massive acomplishment that makes you feel amazing.

>>7827
I'm 160 cm, so just a bit below 5'3". Sometimes I think it would be cool to be really tall so I could model or just look more intimidating, but I like my height. If anything I would like to be 150-155 cm so I don't look as average.

>>7827
that guy sounds extremely creepy and cringy

>179
>always wanted to be shorter, tho always thought my height is cool
the only parts i hate about being tall now is that it makes me feel manly sometimes and a lot of nice shoes and socks don't come in my size
also bf's taller

>Which one are you?
Tall, at least around the majority of other women around me. I'm 171cm.
>Do you wish you could change your height?
Yeah, I'd gladly be a couple of cm shorter. 160-165 sounds pretty cool.
>Does it even matter that much when it comes to dating?
I don't care about height in guys, but my current bf is my height and it's really inconvenient to be the same height for obvious reasons.
>And for guys, do you have a preference?
"I don't care about height in guys" unless they're bitter little shorties. Then I want them far away from me.

>>7827
goddammit that guy sounds amazing I would fall for him a little if I heard something like this tbh. Thats the kind of a person I like: always pushing forward, sometimes maybe taking too much, but wants the feeling of acomplishment afterwards. Am I sounding creepy?
I'm a tall girl, somewhere around 173 cm (never actually properly measured)
>Do you wish you could change your height?
Hell yes, always. Since I was a child people always made fun of me, always pointed out how tall and slim I am, children my age were the worst honestly I felt like a fucking giant sometimes. Now, when I moved to a big city it has gotten better, there are days when I see tall girls on the streets that look good and attractive and it makes me feel a lot better about myself.
>Does it even matter that much when it comes to dating?
Not really, I've never really cared that much, as long as men don't point it out at every occasion. My current bf is the same height as me and it feels amazing when I don't have to look down or up to meet his eyes tho.
>And for guys, do you have a preference?
Again, not really, but I don't think I would be able to date a noticeably shorter guy. (two or three centimiters would be ok, no more than that)
>>7878
>my current bf is my height and it's really inconvenient to be the same height for obvious reasons.
please enlighten me, what reasons are you talking about?

I'm short (5'4) but not super short. I was usually the third or fourth shortest kid in my elementary classes. Tbh I always wanted to be shorter.

Something I wonder about:
https://uanews.arizona.edu/story/blotchier-face-better-wasp
the tl;dr is that researchers decorated groups of wasps with physical signs of status and social dominance that the wasps did not actually possess by nature, and the result of that was that conflicts between those wasps and unaltered wasps were much, much, much more intense than normal. The wasps with facial pigmentation signalling dominance would submit within the normal amount of time, and the normal wasps would just keep harassing and physically attacking them, sometimes for hours.

People, particularly men, frequently mistreat women who have physical signs of social dominance. Not just height, either; if a facial expression is perceived as stern, or as disapproving, then that's "Resting Bitch Face," but it is possible that the main reason it's so hated is because disdain specifically implies social superiority, and not because it implies mere sourness. Otherwise, a resting sad face would be stigmatized, but if anything a vaguely emo resting melancholy look is pretty well received. Melancholy people can be as unpleasant as disdainful ones, but they tend not to be dominant.

>Which one are you?
Short (5'2" or 157 cm.)

>Do you wish you could change your height?
Yes. I'd love to be 5'9" or 5'10", ideally.

>Does it even matter that much when it comes to dating?
I'm married, so I can't say much, but I've never dated anyone who cared about my height enough to bring it up. I don't have a height preference in partners, either.

>And for guys, do you have a preference?
No. I don't care about other people's heights, only mine.

>Which one are you?
Tall, about 5'9.5"/176 cm.

>Do you wish you could change your height?
No. I love being tall and I used to wish I was as tall as my mom who's 6'. Now I'm glad I'm 5'9" bc my mom has the figure to pull it off but I'm gangly enough as it is, and it's hard enough to find well-fitting clothes.

I do feel like my height has impacted me socially, I worry a lot about how people will perceive and treat me as a female who's the average US male height and it's a factor in why I'm so fucking self conscious. >>8014 has a good point, I've never thought about that before but subconsciously I think that's maybe a reason why I feel weirdly ashamed of being tall around other people sometimes? I also got a lot of comments as a kid like >>8011 about being tall and slim and it's shitty enough when kids do it but adults need to learn to not comment on children's bodies point blank period. I think hearing that shit through my childhood and tweenhood contributed to my anorexia which developed out of a fear of not being thin/gaining weight. I had heard my whole life up to that point that being thin/"modelesque" was a valuable thing about me, which wasn't the straw that broke the camel's back but it didn't fucking help.

>Does it even matter that much when it comes to dating?
I'm not sure, my adult relationships have both been people I already was friends with and knew well so I've never been in the "dating world". Both men I've dated seemed to appreciate my height.

>And for guys, do you have a preference?
For both men and women, dating someone around the same height as me would be ideal. My bf and I are literally the exact same height and I love it it's adorable, but the absolute ideal would be a partner who was an inch or two shorter than me. Taller than me is good, but I'm not sure how I'd feel about dating a guy or girl who was significantly shorter than me. I'd like to say it wouldn't matter but I haven't had the chance to test that hypothesis so I'm not sure.

What do you guys think of this video? Boggles my mind that some of these Japanese girls are so short (<160cm) already and want to be even shorter.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/263765529_Mock_Juror_Gender_Biases_and_Perceptions_of_Self-Defense_Claims_in_Intimate_Partner_Homicide
The influence of height on this study is really, really weird. Basically, if a woman is being abused by a significantly taller man, and kills him with a weapon in an act of self defense, a jury is likely to send her to prison for a much longer time than if she killed a man who did not have such an overwhelming physical advantage over her. She is more likely to be considered either not guilty or only guilty of a lesser degree of manslaughter if she is significantly taller than him.

That is crazy. The second hypothesis listed in the study was exactly the reverse of this conclusion; it was hypothesized that women would be convicted at similar rates across all height disparities, but a man who was abused by a taller woman would be viewed more sympathetically than a man who was abused by a shorter woman. That's what I would have expected, especially since I've heard tall girls say that they're seen as "ogres" or "monsters" by shorter men and sometimes women. If the "monster" perception were real, then taller women who killed shorter abusers would have a much higher conviction rate than women who killed taller abusers.

In the study's own text:
>Height Interaction:The abuser gender x abuser height interaction provided a significant contribution to the logistic regression model onverdict at step 3, Step χ2(2)= 6.72, p=.035. However, the interaction was not in the predicted direction.
>Participants exposed to a male abuser were 2.68 times more likely to render guilty verdicts when the male abuser was taller than his partner (OR=2.68, p=.025). When the abuser was a woman, a logistic regression with participant gender, ethnicity, and age entered on step 1 and abuser height entered on step 2 was not significant
>Specifically, when the abuser was a man, a woman defendant was seen as guilty more often when she was shorter than he was.

>the female defendant was more likely to be convicted when her abusive male partner was taller rather than shorter. This finding is somewhat puzzling.

This seems like something that has to have impact on relationships in other ways. There is no way that shorter women are seen as 2.68 times more likely to be conniving murderesses rather than self-defense acquittals in domestic violence scenarios without there being some meaningful impact in other aspects of relationships.

In addition to the weird pretzel-logic the study publishers try to fit to this data, this might be a more ordinary Halo Effect thing, since it's a measurable fact that juries grant less severe verdicts and have a lower conviction rate for more attractive people. But that would mean that there is a more pronounced Halo Effect for taller women in crimes involving shorter men than in pretty much any other kind of criminal case. Which would mean that an ideal height would be much, much taller than anyone seems to believe. When you look up ideal heights for women you see a lot of sites written by women saying "the perfect height for a woman is 5'2" to 5'6" and you don't want to be any taller than that," and men in general just sort of confusedly blither about women's height not mattering, but there are counterpoint sites like this: https://www.enkirelations.com/ideal-height-for-women.html
>Men who are taller than 6’0” generally prefer women of about 5’8” to 5’11”, while shorter men in the range of 5’8” to 5’11” tend to prefer women in the same height bracket.
–which would mean that just about every man wants a woman who is between 5'8" and 5'11", which is like the top 1% of height in women and men would have to be crazy to think that that's a realistic preference.
For a more grounded, sources-cited reference:
https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/dating/most-attractive-height-for-man-woman-a3846246.html
> In the UK, the average height of a man – according to the Office of National Statistics – is 5ft 9in (175.3cm) and a woman is 5ft 3in (161.6cm).
>Most right-swiped heights for women
>1. 5'5"
>2. 5'3"
>3. 5'7"
>4. 5'2"
>5. 5'0"
According to this calculator: https://www.gigacalculator.com/calculators/height-percentile-calculator.php
only 9% of women in the UK are taller than 5'7, and only 4% are taller than 5'8", meaning that the number 3 most swiped spot is being held by a number representing only 5% of the entire UK population. The relative population of 5'5" is 12% of the population using the same calculator and subtraction method. And 5'2" right below that is 15% of the UK population (5'3" is 38.09% and 5'2" is 23.80%, 38-23); 3 times as common, but clearly less lusted after.
An anon called >>>/b/52318 delusional but it's a little difficult to not see where she's coming from if women in the 5'8"-6'0" range are considered so attractive that they could commit homicide with relative impunity and have a date with a juror lined up by the time the trial acquits.

>Which one are you?
tall, about 180-183cm
>Do you wish you could change your height?
not anymore. sure, growing up you had to "suffer" through quite the remarks but I was either to autistic to notice most of the times or I just wasn't really bothered by what other people were telling me. that's probably a me thing tho.
I can very much imagine how others would be seriously hurt by the social stigma. in any case, I've come to like it in recent years, reason being
>Does it even matter that much when it comes to dating?
I've got a thing for cute subs, so being fairly tall is a blessing:^)
>And for guys, do you have a preference?
preferably shorter, no limit to how much shorter. if they're the insecure manlet type we're probably incompatible.
im bi but with girls I'm not into subs. they can just be equal, or some power dynamic, I'm fairly open there.

>>8516
What is with everyone here being into shorter men? is this a CC thing cause none of my friends are like this (although I am)?

>>8505
holy fuck this is horrifying. all the more reason for us shorties to stay the hell away from men

>>11569
I think it's a social reject thing to have tastes outside of the norm.

>>11569
>>11572
This thread is 3 years old. So are many other threads on this site.
Supposedly, there is an upper limit of somewhere around 4% of women who would be willing to date a man who was shorter than themselves:
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/alison-denisco/dating-women-men-whos-taller_b_1527117.html
>Only seven percent would accept someone who was their height, and just four percent would allow for a shorter guy.
It may depend on economic status. Judging by this Jezebel article's percentages separated by borough it looks like higher status women are significantly less willing to date shorter men, with the Bronx as the low-class outlier that matches the highest class preferences.
https://jezebel.com/short-guys-cannot-catch-a-break-in-love-1479851919
>A recent study conducted by New York dating site Are You Interested? found that only 1.2% of the female site users living in Manhattan or the Bronx would reach out to male members who were shorter than them. Odds were slightly better (though still paltry) in the other boroughs with 2.4% of Brooklyn women, 4.1% of Staten Island women and 5.4% of Queens women sending messages to smaller gentlemen.
We aren't anywhere near Manhattan's six figure average individual incomes on a site with this many NEET and mental illness/disability related threads, so we could assume we're closer to Queens than to Manhattan. Let's assume CC has an average year-to-year userbase size of 50 users. 4% would be 2 users. If, over the course of 3 years, 2 users who both had a fascination with shorter men posted about their fascination once every month, that would produce 72 posts, usually in separate threads. I think this is consistent with the actual observations. For every new user who comes along and says they fancy shorter men, an older user is likely to have left, or changed preferences.

>>11573
I dont really think anything about NYC is in parody with the rest of the country. Therefore, the national average number for normal places is probably twice that, at least 8-10% I believe a majority of these women are relatively unattractive as are the users here, and so we are likely to see more interest in short men on CC. That said, reading through the thread, I could only find 2 posters who explicitly said they prefer taller men. Still seems disproportionate to me.

>>11577
4% is actually a very stable figure from a number of different studies, not just a New York figure; Jezebel was just the only site that did a breakdown by location which could be used to approximate income/status, since only women's sites care enough about women to consider variations between groups of women.
I think outliers just have a stronger motivation to produce signals of their atypical interest, since it's the only way they'll ever contact other outliers. Women who prefer shorter men are extremely unlikely to ever meet any woman with similar tastes in real life, since it's rare for a group of close friends to span 50 to 100 individuals who are all willing to disclose unorthodox sexual interests to each other. You can find plenty of women talking about their preference for taller men in, say, the "cute partner thread," which wasn't an explicit signal beacon for unorthodox height preferences.

>Which one are you?
my country is full of midgets so im just about average, i dont know my exact height
>Do you wish you could change your height?
yes if i could saw inches off my shin bones i would being a cripple doesnt bother me as long as im not over 160 tall i would do anything to be 145cm instead of however tall i am currently
>Does it even matter that much when it comes to dating?
i wouldnt know im a lescel
>And for girls*, do you have a preference?
*edited for convenience
i feel like i would feel really insecure being taller than my partner but if she's really cute i think i'd be able to take it ^_^

>>11717
you want to be 4'7"? you'd be mandated car seat size. there's a difference between being petite and the size of an 8 year old.

>>11718
yes i want to be 4'7 there's nothing wrong with that. ive seen grown women of that size im asian anyway so it wouldnt be too much of a shock for reference the last time i got measured i was 153 but im pretty sure ive grown since then for some reason even though im not at the age where i should keep growing :/

>Which one are you?
Average I think. At 160cm.
>Do you wish you could change your height?
Not particularly.
>Does it even matter that much when it comes to dating?
Not really.
>And for guys, do you have a preference?
Not into guys so, no.
I like taller girls. Smaller girls are cute though. I kinda feel more protective of them though than sexually attracted to them but if I loved them that would be a moot point.

I’m 5’9.
No. I just wish I was thinner. Being 180lbs makes me look shorter than I am right now.
When I was 120lbs I looked taller. But I did look gauntly.
I need to loose 20lbs.
I don’t care about height. I’ve dated guys shorter and taller than me, much heavier and as skinny as I was when I was at 120lb. I just care about personality and if I’m attracted to their face.

>>3018
>Which one are you?
short, i'm exactly 5'2 / 157.5
>Do you wish you could change your height?
i do wish i was an inch shorter or tall enough to where i could model. honestly being shorter would make my life harder because it'd be even easier to look fat
>Does it even matter that much when it comes to dating?
not really, i'd just prefer my gf to not be shorter than me
>And for guysgirls, do you have a preference?
i'd want my gf to be the same height or taller. if she's shorter i'd be a little upset but if i hugged her and her head went into my chest that would make up for it. i think could handle dating a girl that's 5'0 at most. though i really want my gf to be taller than me. taller than 5'5 or even more would be perfect to me

>>11573
based autist

>Which one are you?
average (165cm)
>Do you wish you could change your height?
yes i'd like to be a dominating lanky mommy, 180+ cm (or at least 175cm)
>Does it even matter that much when it comes to dating?
not much but i'd still like my girlfriend to be shorter than me i think? or the same height i suppose.
although tall girls look elegant they're quite not my type, i'd date one though if she was almost perfect in any other way
>And for guys, do you have a preference?
i'm no straightie but i physically cringe when i see a tall moid/short girl straight couple IRL, feels like incestous shit

5'1" (155-156 cm), people usually assume I'm tall based on my proportions in photographs) I have gangly limbs, lol). I like being petite, I'm happy with my height. It's petite, but not too petite where I look like a midget, but I hate fucking being infantalized, not taken seriously, perceived as mousy or passive. You have to raise your voice 10 octaves and practically yell in order to be heard when you're short and have a soft voice.

>>11925
Are you me? I work in management and my employees think they can just walk all over me. It's fucking annoying as hell.

>Which one are you?
shorter side of average (5'4)
>Do you wish you could change your height?
god yeah, i wish i were at least 5'8
>Does it even matter that much when it comes to dating?
i'm too much of an autist to date, but i'm really tired of people infantilizing me for my height and mentioning how short/cute i am every other second
>And for guys, do you have a preference?
i don't really care about other people's heights

>>6219
Religious girls are so attractive I guess we all want a human wife huh

>>3018

I’m 162 (5’3 Google says). I live in Japan and am eurasian, so I’m the “Ideal” here. Girls will say they wish they were my height so clothes would fit them better, or how they wish they had long legs like me or a tiny waist like mine (and being brutally honest, I don’t have long legs nor a particularly small waist. If you were to measure the average skinny pure blooded japanese girl, their waist will be smaller than mine. It’s just that usually Japanese people are more stocky and have less defined curves, including men, who are more blocky and don’t have broad shoulders and small waist/hips, like the ideal standard here.)

Moids just say I look like a k-pop idol (whatever the fuck they mean by that, because a real k-pop idol will absolutely digest me if we stood side to side). Maybe they just think it’s offensive to say I look like a JAV girl, but having worked as a gravure model and as a hostess, I don’t think it’s offensive at all.

I have wide hips, like fitness, so I have a big butt, have breast implants (basically necessary if you work as a gravure model or hostess here) and my waist is normal, it just looks smaller because of my larger hips. Average BMI.

I thankfully got good features from being eurasian (youthful, feminine face, thick hair from my Japanese side but a straight and thin nose, double eyelids, pale skin and a curvier body from my white side)

I basically look like any gravure model you’ll see at a convenience store’s magazine section here. Pretty, but forgettable. It takes a lot more to be an actual model here.

My moid is 183 (6’ I think) and I think it’s perfect. He looks great in all clothes and will make even casual stuff look elegant. Out of the two of us, I think he’s the better looking one, and he was actually scouted many times to be a real model, not just a cheap gravure girl like me.

In the countryside I can usually be the same size or slightly smaller than the moids here, but when I travel to a big city, most guys are taller than me and sometimes taller than my moid. Women are almost always smaller than me but occasionally there will be a girl taller than my man. It’s mostly old people here in the countryside and when there’s someone young, they will be in school. Most uni students move to bigger cities to study at prestigious universities.

I don’t feel insecure about my height. Maybe I would if I was single and kept comparing myself to the girls around me, since they are usually smaller, but because I’m always beside my moid, I actually feel small myself.

>>3018
I'm 5'1 and I hate it tbh. I'm East Asian w a baby face so I only attract fetishizers n ped0s it's hell. My height doesn't help. Sometimes I feel like if I was taller I could help mitigate the damage from my other qualities.

I'm 175cm and I think I have the ideal height (for my location). Tall enough for it to look good but not so tall to run into significant problems with buying clothes or towering above other women. I don't think I have great proportions though but that's beside the point.

i'm 5'7/170cm.
i don't really like my height, i wish i was a bit shorter (5'3-5'5?) i think short girls are cute and sometimes i just don't feel cute myself just because of the fact i'm tall.
i'm slowly coming to peace with my height though and think there's some advantages too! like long pretty legs ehe

5'10/178cm, was not even in the top 10 tallest girls in my high school where I grew up, lots of Scandinavian families in the area (mine included).

Then after visiting other places I felt like a giant. Was insecure about it for a while. But I ended up developing a preference for men that are around my own height so it worked out in the end.

Buying jeans is still a nightmare, though.

Tall (ish, 5'9) and it feels like a weird twilight zone where I'm a bit taller than most other women in the room but still struggle half the time to reach the top shelf. Built like creepy susie, basically a lanky stick at 32, 27, 33 but eh. I quit being self conscious about most of my features some time after I turned 21.

I’m 4’9 my husband is 6’6. Usually the really tall ones like me. My first love was 5’0 though and he transitioned in our late 20s kek. I think I like really tall guys and really short guys. Average height just doesn’t do it for me. I don’t think I would change my height because of my height preference for men. I do wish I could find clothes that fit me and shoes in adult sizes. I do wish I could cook comfortably in the kitchen and not have to use a stool. I really hate washing dishes and loading and unloading laundry it’s such a physical task for me because I have to over exaggerate the movements due to height. Driving is also difficult I cannot see the road very well. Also no one my age treats me seriously because of my height. When I pick up my kid from elementary school at least half of the children there are my height or taller. They look at me funny. I do feel a bit like a freak.

I think I'm 5'1 or somewhere around that. I once dated a scrote who made fun of my height. He is depressed/miserable now. So all good I guess.

I'm around 163cm. I was always on the short side in school. Weirdly I never felt bad about it and even wanted to be shorter for a while. Now I'm right at the average height wete I live and it's nice.