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Imagine being able to have piv and it naturally leading to your orgasm… God men are so blessed by biology. Why at least we don't have our clits inside the vaginal canal or some shit

have you thought about trying lesbian sex? you don't have to use dildos

>>11521
im sorry you feel that way anon. have you ever considered just trying femdom? you can have sex without degrading yourself by just taking the lead. try amazon position, cunnilingus etc/make him do the degrading shit (if it makes you feel better)

>>11522
Sex doesn't have to be centered on PiV. You're perfectly in the right to ask for all intimacy time to include orgasm for you.

>>11522
>Why at least we don't have our clits inside the vaginal canal
read somewhere that it might be because having all those nerve endings inside the vagina would make childbirth even more painful? for example hyenas do give birth through their clits and it really is as bad as it sounds.

>>11569
But it's a bit weird that female pleasure is not directly tied to the reproductive part of sex.

>>11521
I felt that way for a long time, my only experience in high school and college was a long string of shitty, lazy moids - the kind who think 'foreplay' is a golf term and that remembering a one-month anniversary means you're now expected to lay back and let them use you like a toy for the rest of the night. Sex, especially being asked to use my mouth or hands, used to leave me feeling constantly disgusted and it put me in a bad place for a long time.

I lucked out and ended up with a sweet guy a few years after graduation - he likes foreplay, likes teasing me, likes giving oral, listens during, isn't super pushy, etc. and it changed my attitude a lot. Our sex life hasn't been mind-blowing or anything, but it's definitely the first time I've been with a guy where I didn't feel uncomfortable or degraded doing things with him or for him.

>>11569
Damn so it's bc of childbirth aka something I never even desired anyway

>>11526
I feel like femdom is a cope it gives me no physical stimulation it feels like entertaining the moid solely as always

>>11536
Female orgasm in het sexual relations doesn't come from the other person body loving you like het male orgasms do plus its impossible in a het relation for a girl to have a bigger orgasm count than the male plus the psychological side of sex… I could only be comfortable with sex if I knew the moid 100% will commit long term or for life to me which is impossible. I just dont wanna spend life being pumped and dumped like every other woman just for the sake of having useless het sex I try to hijack somehow to make it beneficial to me to not gaf about possible breakups if I was served by the relationships anyway but… Het sex for a woman is just so retarded… Men don't even love women so it complicates my problem even more. I just dont wanna submit so desperately

>>11577
pretend to be a virgin with every guy and that you want to wait a few months. that will weed out the fuckboys. after that insist that you want to take it slow with lots of foreplay as you've heard it can hurt. pretend you are nervous about going all the way so have plenty of foreplay only sessions where you train him to make you orgasm beforehand so that becomes normal

>>11575
True femdom puts you in control. So do whatever pleases you.

>>11583
I'm turning 30 this Fall… I don't think anyone's going to buy that.

>>11588
hmmm, maybe say you were in a longterm relationship with your first guy and haven't been with anyone else and want to take it slow because of that? or you are religious or something? or that's it's just your dating preference?

>>11522
Is piv really not as enjoyable as it seems? I heard it doesn't feel good from a lot of women's testimonies online. Is it really nothing more than a moid fantasy?

>>11650
Everyone's different - some can't bear it, some can't get enough of it. I had a really rough time with it early on, but I can enjoy it when I'm in the right mindspace.

>>11571
cause, in terms of mortality and effort, the cost of reproduction is very high for women; and very low for men. So we evolved to not enjoy sex from shitheads who are too incompetent or selfish to please us. They'd give the kids some of their shithead genes, and be bad fathers.

>>11521
Why the hell do you have to be cucked by biology again ? There are billions of men willing to be a switch and a sub. Personally I don't even know why you would even bother with men who would make you do what you're describing when you could get into fantasy and anything you want by yourself. Most heterosexual men are REVOLTING. It's just something you should figure out how the enjoy by yourself or of course you're going to be unhappy.

>>11583
This is really shitty advice good lord.

>>11586
Seconding this. Or be a switch which is also fun.

>>11617
Yep, they're in practically every thread now. To each their own and all that, but it does get obnoxious.
>So anyways, I'm wondering if I should spring for a gym membership or stick to jogging in the par-
>HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT BECOMING A LESBIAN!?
>N-no, I'm just looking for advice on my cardio workou-
>YOU KNOW WHAT'S A GOOD WORKOUT?? LETTING YOUR FLATMATE FUCK YOU WITH A STRAPON!!
>I… what?
>SNIFF HER HAIR!!

>>11526
I don't think the solution to feeling degraded is becoming the degrader, I think it's just finding a person who's willing to not push you super far out of your comfort zone if you're not ready, and is willing to be at least as generous of a lover as they expect you to be.

>>11617
I may be retarted, but I read it as simply having non-PiV sex

If you don't want to suck dick then don't and in fact you shouldn't. You literally don't have to.

>>11687
No one should ever be forced to do something they don't want to or aren't comfortable with, but the reality is that all relationships require give and take to work. If you find even the idea of performing oral on a guy disgusting to your core, that's fine (and completely understandable), and you should never do it if you don't want to, but understand that you're probably going to have a hard time finding someone who's willing to perform oral on you or engage in any meaningful foreplay with you without any reciprocity. That's just how it is.

This goes the other way, of course. No moid should even be uttering the words "anal sex" unless they're ready and willing to bend over and let you peg them.

>>11670
LOL. I always interpret lesbian recrooooters as jokesters. Surly, they don't actually think that sexual orientation can change, or else heteronormative social pressure would have worked on them. They're not trying to gaslight straight girls into super unpleasant, and awkward, situations where they reluctantly end up with their face in another woman's vulva; not enjoying it at all, and just hoping to get it over with. If you don't believe that sexual orientation can be changed, then there's no real threat from recroooters. They're just being goofy online.

>>11689
>>11688
Males can easily orgasm from PIV alone (unless they're too pornsick that they wrecked their dicks from overcooming) so they don't even need or deserve it. If a woman even bothers they should be grateful.

>>11690
You know, I'm kinda curious on why homosexual women get their own word but homosexual men don't. Has anyone else questioned this too and wonder if homosexual men will ever get their own word?

>>11707
I think it's cause lesbians were originally ignored. So terms like, "homosexual", "sodomite", "deviant", originally applied to men only.

I relate to this a lot. But I honestly felt this way a lot more before having sex myself, when all I knew was porn and how people talk online. At the time, I felt like I'd rather die than give up my dignity like that. Having had sex though - I don't know if I got lucky, but it made the whole thing seem like some kind of psyop. I feel like I get more pleasure from my boyfriend than he gets from me. It's like he serves me rather than uses me. He does most of the hard work. I'm on top occassionally but it's much less frequent because the man thrusting his hips is just easier. I can't imagine that it feels that amazing for him compared to me, because I can focus on the sensation while he's basically doing physical exercise.

Blowjobs also used to make me feel sick to my stomach. I would cry at the thought that my sexuality involved that. but after doing it, I realized that a) being heterosexual, I like dick and b) I like putting things I like in my mouth. Penises are so velvety smooth, too, they just feel really nice. They don't feel like a weapon or tool of degradation to me anymore, but rather something cute and vulnerable that I want to take care of. So I don't mind it at all anymore. If my boyfriend thinks he's degrading me by letting me suck his penis then he's a moron and that view is a him problem, not a me problem. I'd honestly be upset if he didn't let me do it anymore.

So, ultimately, what I'm trying to say is, there's a chance you could get over it. Personally I think I just got way too neurotic and imagined all these things that weren't there, in regards to this topic I had little experience with. That said, I got lucky that my boyfriend treats me well so idk how it would be if you had negative experiences

>>11707
About time someone's speaking the real problem of society.

>>11707
they have a word, it is faggot

My first time was very degrading, porn-informed sex at 19, which was so bad it sparked a gender identity crisis. Even today I still feel moidbrained, but I had no idea the extent of it until last night.

I saw a very cute guy talking to a friend and asked her to set us up, which went flawlessly and we've been talking for the last 3 weeks. I still dress very modestly and baggy to cover my curves and style myself pretty androgynously, but he still seemed to like me. We went on a date last weekend and this weekend we went to an event with friends and ended up making out. I was really, really into it, but every time I became aware of how feminine and submissive I was in where I wanted to touched, how I wanted to be held etc. it just snapped me out of it and I had to rearrange us so I was more masculine and on equal footing. He was clearly weirded out by me doing that, but didn't say anything. It's so bad that when I fantasise about having sex with him, I reprimand myself for wanting to be held down and it's like another part of my brain forces images of me always facing away from him, always in positions of manly, masculine gay sex; which instantly kills the daydream. It's been 5 years and I just really want to have sex with a guy I really like, without this moid part of my brain demanding I do it while still dressed, not touching, in silence, so I don't resemble a woman to him in any way; lest he suddenly snap and decide to degrade and humiliate me.

>>11521
I think it depends on what kind of guy. I would be more that eager to service a qt, gentle, shy, virgin begging for my embrace, I think it would be less degrading but more loving, passionate, and sensual, as he would be very considerate and let me set the pace and I would love to show him as much pleasure as possible. But of course in truth moids are disgusting violent pigs who see woman as inferior beings and get off on abuse and degradation of women as pleasure so yeah, I agree knowing that almost all men are pigs I wouldn't want to have sex with the average male and would find it degrading to unless it is a rare good boy.

>>11650
It depends on both experience and personal arousal. For me, there's always just a liiiittle bit of "stinging" afterwards, but it's never really noticeable in the act.
First time I ever did it though it hurt quite a bit.

>>11733
I did it! Oh God, why did I wait so long? All it took were a few drinks and fooling around in the dark and I finally had a real orgasm after five long years…then two more this morning. No feelings of guilt or disgust, no panic and dread at being treated like a woman. I was so twisted up into knots, thinking that being penetrated was submissive and degrading, that I ruined any chance at a good relationship. As a side note, PIV was actually amazing. It's an entirely different kind of orgasm and I now understand why some women just want to fuck all day every day.

>>11650
I really like it. The way I would describe it is I see stars whenever it touches me deep inside. It's very different from clitoral stimualtion and I couldn't come from it alone but it somehow feels better at the same time. It hurts a bit when putting it in but that lasts for ~1 second

>>11650
Since I've finally had PIV (that wasn't 90 seconds of pain), I would describe it as moments of pressure and strain, with the same kind of relief of having a cramped muscle in your pelvis or lower back release, without the pain. There's a little bit of pain for the first few seconds. Deep thrusting leaves me kind of breathless and has a moment of pleasant light-headedness, kind of like >>11783 with seeing stars. I've never come from penetration alone, but maybe 3 hours ago I tried prone and came from it and light friction from the pillow under me. It produces a whole different kind of orgasm that leaves me really, really pleasurably and bone-deep exhausted.

>>11781
Congratulations nona! I'm glad to hear that you have overcome your hang-ups, remember to use protection though.

>>11521
Have you considered you could try the 69 position of you think oral is demeaning. Is it demeaning if it's being reciprocated?

See these replies in this thread? For some of us these feelings will never go away because we are either asexual or are homosexual.
Everything that has been posted in this thread repulsed me. Men are not my drug like they are for the women itt
Sorry your thread was overtaken by these dick crazy druggies

>>11995
69 position is the most equal and fair for both sexes

>>11690
It can.

>>11690
Maybe they get off on the idea of forcing a straight woman to be in an uncomfortable sexual encounter?

>>11521
Have you considered taking a more active role in the act?
Like receiving oral sex, or riding on top?
If you have a problem being seen, maybe try him being unclothed and you fully clothed, it's far more uncomfortable for him in that scenario.
Try power play dynamics that give you the confidence you need to explore your sexuality.
I tell myself that an act is only degrading of I don't want to do it, so why don't you want to do it?
You may need to do some soul searching to find why you have feelings of inadequately.
Being a woman doesn't make you inferior you should focus on the things you can control and start from there.

>>12484
Women can only be passive and submissive in hetsex and most hetero sex acts are physically uncomfortable and psychologically terrorizing + only give men physical pleasure but women only psychological.
And besides that women can't have a clit stimulation from piv and orgasms only happen in clitoris even if it happens through piv so basically women just get used like a flashlight most of the time while the moid orgasms directly from piv and gets pleasure women will never experience

>>12485
I have been thinking about this too, like women thay say they enjoy hetero piv sex honestly just sound like coping

>>12486
I feel pleasure from penetration but the thing is that it still feels useless and burdening to me

>>12486
And and piv isn't even the worse. Oral sex on men is straight up a sex slavery, the existence of it makes me wanna cry no way women do this to themselves, it's physically uncomfortable, hits the back of your tongue which makes you want to vomit, you have to be submissive to the core in this act plus a male worshipping pickme, this act doesn't give women ANY physical pleasure. It's like putting yourself through rape, having sex as a woman with men is useless the only time I thought its not is when I was going through a submissive cool girl pgase.
What is female pleasure in het sex anyway, like what's the conclusion here… I'm the op and this shit makes me feel so enslaved. All these acts are just rape. I can't have nothing as a woman. I have less than nothing because there's a degradation or being physically dominated involved in it all and other shit like that. I can't even have orgasms from piv as a woman, the only way to find it amusing is to be a pickme

>>12488
>cool girl
Is this some new forced meme? I swear I saw it in another thread yesterday.

>>11650
It changes from person to person. Some women hate it, some can only have an orgasm with PiV.

>>12489
Might be a forced meme, but it's not new
https://youtu.be/0o4heKCLeTs

>>12632
You never heard of this term? It's something you call a pickme who is trying to be a "cool girl" to men

>>11521
Then just don't have sex with men, problem solved

>>12668
The point was that female pleasure is sex is servile and not acknowledging the biological reality and reality of sex makes it harder for women like me to resolve their internal conflict. There's just so much false ideas being spread about sex and most women even even defensive of sex as if thats what they learned, be defensive no matter what and don't have your own brain cause thats the moral standards and that's what cool. "Sex is cool", well not as a woman, women are like for example a female animal getting in heat and being in pain however having sex will always being her pain yet the heat makes them lack self control and obviously makes them defend sex and the stupid moral and normie standards also make them defend sex and five stupid ass advices instead if acknowledging the biological reality for what it is. I mentally am not a bottom and can't align with my biological position in hetero sex so I just recognized that female pleasure is real but comes mostly from serving lol which depressed me and made me give up in life as a woman especially acts like handjobs or sucking dick made womanhood unsalvageable to me and gave me jealousy of moids recently after years of exploring my sexuality till I got tired especially of piv that feels promising but ends up just being you scratching an itching wound over and over again till it's numb and you relax then seeking to scratch it again. While men have a dick aka a bigger surface to stimulate and literally a giant clitoris. I will never have this satisfaction as a woman and possibly doing acts like the two I named earlier makes me wanna k word. Sorry for the sperg. I just hate when people say inaccurate things about sex as someone who has this internal conflict. I hate society and sex positivity and feel groomed by it and called a loser for not wanting relationships or sex as a woman

Why not just have a man worship you? Women can dominate males

>>12677
No they literally can't? Its women who jerk and suck dick aka do acts that bring them not physical pleasure plus piv directly leads ro a male orgasm but not female. Women are the empathy in het sex who worship men and get off in male pleasure. It's not possible for a man to worship a woman in sex besides just desiring and consuming her and giving her his desire lol what do people not understand. Being a female is so depressing after like 5 years of sexual copes and even more years of exploring my sexuality I just snapped and developed a dick envy. Sex is useless and overrated as a woman, I feel like I got brainwashed to think it's not. Its not worth dating and fucking men and doing all these mental gymnastics. So much work for nothing yet unlike what people claim I'm still not asexual despite feeling like this. Sex with men as a woman is about being an empathetic giving servant. And the orgasm or physical pleasure count will never be equal between sexes

>>12684
I searched online how to dominate a moid in sex and kept reading it for like 30 min and had to scroll through a bunch of gross dick sucking stories and overall it was all still about male pleasure and the hetero dynamic still stays the same. Maybe if women like me didn't get galsighted and punished by the society so much I would have resolved my confusion earlier. People saying that a woman can dominate a moid in sex makes me feel like I have 200 iq LOL.
That's all I just give up even the orgasm I made myself have through penetrative stimulation earlier made me feel depressed because having a female body sucks. And heterosexual relationships are full if extreme degradation seriously I hate life its horrible and people are stupid as hell, I give up on engaging in sexuality, I just wanted to find out why