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girl, i think you just don't like PIV and/or hate boys so much you don't get the butterflies at the thought of ((him)) inside you

I'm not a good actor and I can't keep up a lie. Imagine faking it every time for long term relationship. It seems impossible to me. So I will just be honest and tell the guy I'm naturally quiet and don't make a lot of noise

>>5214
I don't hate boys, I just feel like heterosexual sex as it's most often had isn't a very good deal for women.

I do get butterflies thinking about it but I like it the same way I like a shoulder rub, it's nice but if I jerk someone off and he rubs my shoulders in return then my sexual needs are obviously not met.

>>5215
I don't think lying in that regard is different from faking pride and delight every time he does the dishes or picks up after himself. I mean it's expected to do chores but it's also expected to act grateful about others doing it. And acting highly appreciative about boring things isn't a romantic partnership thing, I've done that with roomies, siblings, colleagues, professors.

>naturally quiet and don't make a lot of noise
So Normans just naturally wiggle their asses and chant "oh yeah, oh yeah baby, uooooorghh" every time they schlick alone at home?

This is why I started hooking up with guys who identify as more submissive. Not because I identify as a Domme, or because I think submisive men are better (scrotes are scrotes, they all have the same issues) but it's easier to decentralize PIV and so much easier to just give them one-two-three instructions and/or bark out orders during sex. It opens up a world of communication where they're open about their needs but I can also tell them point blank that I won't behave this and that way for them.

I don't like when men are quiet so I don't mind returning the favor with some embellished moans here and there. But you shouldn't construct this fake porn persona either. If you don't want him to think his dick is god's gift to womankind then moan more when he does whatever you like.

Have you ever been in a dorm or apartment and some lady is screaming her head off? I wonder if they're faking like crazy or trying to brag or something. I find it hard to believe it's so good they're shaking the walls. And if it is they should share.

There are things you can try to make piv feel better, like kegels, working out and getting in shape generally, maybe try g-spot play.

Or you can try to be honest and just say, look, I like X and Y, so PIV is for you. You could try playing with yourself while he does it, or use a vibe or something. Some guys get weird about that unfortunately.

Why do you do this?
I know some of you do it because you don't want to anger your boyfriends/husbands. But instead of pretending, why not tell them that what they are doing is insufficient so you both truly enjoy yourselves? Maybe tell them you can't cum from penetration alone, or to try another angle, or if it really comes to it, tell them you aren't compatible so you both find someone to be happy with.

I don't understand this. I can't stop myself from making noise during sex, or even masturbation.

But on top of that, I just tell people if they're not fucking me right. If that means they get all pissy and insecure, too bad for them. I've found that any damage done to a guy's ego by telling him he's a shit lay is quickly repaired once he sees the results of actually doing things correctly.

>>5213
This conversation always brings out a lot of cope. There's no special technique or trick to make sex good, so don't waste your time. Sex is something to endure for the sake of the relationship, to make your man happy, and that's it. Yeah, it helps to fake liking it a little, which sucks, but it's the same for all kinds of things in life, like pretending to like your coworkers or your friend's dumb jokes.

If you point out this truth in any mainstream forum there will be hordes of cool girls tripping over themselves to tell you they looove sex, and anal, and BDSM, and they don't even need vibrators, so there must be something wrong with you.

>>5213
I don't act during sex. At the very most, I might project a bit more enthusiasm when he's doing something right, but that's the actual point of moaning.

Moid does something you like = moan
Moid does something you really like = moan more
Moid does something you don't like = stop moaning

I don't know why some you think moaning is about placating the other person, it's like you're scared if you're not 100% enthusiatic he's just gonna toss you to the side like a used condom. Of course none of this actually replaces just telling the damn moid what you want, but a lot of people on this website seem to view voicing your wants and needs as some kind of abhorrence.

having your clitty sucked > being fucked

>>5245
I'd go even further and say its a bit like primal language, communicating without speaking sort of thing
>>5238
>>5218
kind of? Like moaning does enhance the experience but it's not like I couldn't stop doing it if I have to. If this the dreaded man-through-the-keyhole again?

>>5246
1000%.
I still enjoy penetration. Oral is just way better.

Sex is personal and everyone is going to have different experiences with it.

Even something like a woman's height or the distance between her clit and her vagina will effect how much she enjoys penetration; and that's before you even get into things like vaginismus.

Some women enjoy penetration because they enjoy feeling full and frankly just psychologically get off from penetration. Meanwhile, having a "numb" vagina and finding penetration just kind of ho-hum is extremely normal. Porn will tell you the vagina is super-duper sensitive along every inch but that is simply untrue and largely projection from scrotes who think a vagina is just like a penis but inverse. I say this as somebody who basically feels nothing during penetration: I like it sometimes when I'm feeling both really romantic and really horny and the guy's cock is six inches or under. Otherwise, it's just uncomfortable. The idea of it is sexier to me than the reality 50/50, and I've been lucky to meet moids who understand this and let me take the reigns in defining sex on our own terms. This is where elements of female-lead relationships and femdom come in, as mentioned upthread.

The best thing you can do is find a man who isn't that interested in PiV. They're out there. Sometimes you'll be happier with a man who has a low libido or a libido lower than you, if PiV is a chore. Sometimes you'll find men who just don't enjoy PiV for a variety of reasons. Some of the reasons are objectively stupid (porn-sick, numb dicks). Some are better (they just don't like the sensation, prefer other forms of sex). Some are a kink/fetish in and of themselves. Sexual compatibility is important, and it's easier to find if you're upfront about your desires and discuss it with your partner. Basically, you can't get anywhere on this issue if you don't talk about it. It might mean breaking up, but depending on what you value about the relationship breaking up over sexual incompatibility is so freeing.

>>5247
Yeah I moan when masturbating, it makes it better. Kinda like stubbing your toe. Sure you could be quiet, but it feels way better to curse and yell.

>>5246
>>5248
For me it's the opposite. I'm not confident with him doing oral to me yet and when he has tried I couldn't relax enough to feel aroused, but piv plus its indirect soft friction or without it are what I enjoy most by far.

>>5253
>Meanwhile, having a "numb" vagina and finding penetration just kind of ho-hum is extremely normal.
From what I've seen around the internet this is very common, but is it really ''normal''?

>>5213
>That would be rude
this is the whole thing, how the hell is the guy going to know what's real or not if you aren't honest? he's not part of a girly social clique you're trying to impress, he's a man, his feelings shouldn't be important to you and they shouldn't be important to him either

>how do you deal with this shit?
Communicate instead of pretending. Sex should be a mutual desire kind of thing. You do things to him, he reacts; he does things to you, you react. But the things that you do to each other must feel good. Don't worry about performing, stop doing that and your body will start to react when it really feels like it; you must be in the right mood, and of course if you're pressuring yourself to act for him, you won't enjoy yourself. Don't try to make it like a damn porn movie or hentai, that's not real life. A genuine moan of pleasure is (or should be) more satisfying than fake porn crying.

Also penetrative sex isn't the only thing you can do. What's stopping you from having a happy relationship without having to have his dick inside your vagina? You could do mutual masturbation, oral sex, dry humping, nipple play or frenching. Those things that are thought of as """foreplay""" and """not real sex""" often feel better than penetration for a lot of men and women. They're so much fun, whereas vaginal is just a chore.

You also gotta be more assertive and confident, anon. Lose your fear of doing non-"traditional" forms of sex. Like others have already said, "femdom elements" (in reality a balanced relationship) are actually pretty important if you want to have satisfying sex and not just act as a man's fucktoy.

or go the full femdom route and get psychological satisfaction from seeing him in pain and pleasure

>>5253
>The idea of it is sexier to me than the reality
This, I've sucked three different dicks in my whole life (several times each), but the two times I had vaginal sex were some of the most awkward experiences in my life, despite how much I fantasized about and masturbated to the idea AND the memory of doing it. In that moment, I didn't feel like myself, I was extremely self-conscious, it didn't feel good physically and I felt weird, even though that had never happened when I did other things with my boyfriend.

>>5213
check your hormones.

>>5213
t. cumlet

>>5243
>There's no special technique or trick to make sex good, so don't waste your time. Sex is something to endure for the sake of the relationship, to make your man happy, and that's it.
Speak for yourself, I love getting railed.

>>5344
If you've only had PIV twice, you're not exactly experienced, and the moids you had sex with were probably not experienced either. Nervousness, inexperience and self-consciousness are huge roadblocks on the way to satisfying sex, for both parties. Try again, perhaps with someone older.

>>5432
Yeah I know vaginal sex is something more complicated that you need serious practice and communication to "master" so that it'll feel good. But an asocial semi-recluse who is currently single can't exactly practice sex during a pandemic, can she?

>>5213
OP, you need to start masturbating during sex. Like have your partner lick your nipples or insert fingers inside you or something and masturbate yourself a bit as foreplay. Then masturbate more when he is PIV inside you. Basically use him like a dildo. Some insecure men will complain it's distracting or whatever but kick selfish cunts like that out of bed. It's been scientifically shown that some women have a larger space between their clitoris and vagina and this makes it harder for them to enjoy intercourse. If a man is not willing to accept that and work around it then bin him immediately. You can also teach him to to masturbate you or enhance how you normally masturbate by offering more hands.

Pornsick men also have unrealistic expectations of intercourse length etc. PIV should only be about 5-7 mins tops unless you both like longer. Stretch out oral, mutual masturbation, etc before and after intercourse to compensate. Don't date circumcised men as they are less sensitive and so compensate by being rougher, taking longer, more desperate to cum, and then just feel worse inside you.

It's also worth looking into the CAT (coital alignment technique) to see if that feels better and don't do positions you don't want. Also turn off the lights so that you don't feel pressure to make sexy faces or look sexy. Instead of fake moans just rub your hands over your partner and kiss them.

Remember, any guy that objects to all of this is not worth your time that could be better spent masturbating alone.