>>11868 >how effective pandering to army is and how effective is that exactly if Grammys viewership last year was at an all time low even with bts stage kek
Since 70% of people here are nctfags, could Lucas fit in as a local in South America? I'm not from SA but I thought about this when I saw his predebut pictures.
Do we really need ssng to tell us that tho? Any nct fan could make an educated guess tbh. Mark and TY are definitely doing something to keep themselves going. Both are bone thin and looking rough af lately.
>>11876 kek this is amazing hopefully she fucked off, im here to talk shit about kpop, not read her life story about how she bagged some fat korean loser and now she's an expert on korean culture
>>11881 I feel like most idols probably take some kind of over the counter amphetamines to pep them up given how shitty their sleep schedules are, I wonder how common it is to move on to actual meth tho
>>11884 there was a huge article about prescription drug abuse driven by the companies, its an open secret that these idols are pumped full of drugs (both recreational and prescription) to keep them going
His weight just isn't normal for his age. He seems to have gotten even thinner lately, so I wouldn't be surprised. I think him and Mark are the thinnest in nct now, marks face is like hollowing
>>11886 but anon its the devils lettuce and its bad because they take it for pleasure!!
have some uppers to keep you awake instead, and then eat a bunch of sleeping pills because you're too hopped up to sleep, but since they're all "prescribed" it's not stigmatized at all
>>11887 SM definitely seems to run the spermies absolutely ragged, I remember there was a period during their first promotions where Lucas looked like he was about to collapse in every picture
>>11887 mark looks freaking rough, his face is like you said so hollowed out. unsurprising considering he literally has not stopped working since nct started
the guy had pretty prominent cheekbones before, but he's starting to look like a skeleton with how hollow his face is
>>11889 I don’t know why they agreed with Capitol to form SUPERM They should also team up with big American labels what the fuck is Capitol. Who is even signed to them anymore
>>11890 Not sure honestly, he keeps saying conflicting things about whether he'll come back to making music at all but Big Bang did renew their contract so he probably doesn't have much of a choice. I don't think there's been any potential comeback news since coachella was cancelled though. I remember he did an insta live a little while back where he was looking really rough. I've heard that the other three Big Bang members have been meeting up but he wasn't there.
>>11902 im surprised he renewed to be honest, he seems like he just wants to chill and do the weird art collecting/post "quirky" shit like pig assholes on instagram
big bang is likely dead, i highly doubt they can recover from the seungri scandal even though he technically got booted but who knows
TOP is a has-been and nasty. He looks like he'd have a sexually transmitted disease. That story of him going after han seo hee when she was a trainee was gross af.
>>11902 They will reboot activities in december as stated in YG's Investor Report. Not sure if with a cb, but they will be promoting.
>>11904 They absolutely will, just check the video posted in the end of previous thread, people are up in GDs ass in Korea. His nike sneakers had people lining up to buy it and was sold out in minutes. There is no hope.
>>11904 You do have the scandal on the one hand, but on the other hand they still have a huge amount of recognition among the gp, and from what I've heard most people don't really hate anyone except Seungri so I think a comeback would still make a splash. GD trended really high when he was discharged from the military, and even though there are large groups that hate him and TOP I think most of the gp doesn't care that much.
>>11908 Have YG's investor reports been consistent with the timing of their other comebacks? December sounds reasonable but given how much blackpink got moved around I wonder if it's accurate.
>>11906 Is this some kind of punishment for his controversies??? He's a careless atention seeker but compared to other members he doesn't seem that annoying.
>>11906 This one is wacky because that chinese app to enhance lq photos was used. But yeah the other photos were proof enough that he has done something; plus, all the bloat on his face, it might be healing from surgery
>>11917 i cant wait to see how ugly these bts guys are gonna be in 5-10 years when they stop being idols, stop taking care of their bodies, and all the filler and surgery hits the big brick wall that is their mid thirties
they're all gonna be fat and botched but im sure blind ratmys are still gonna screech about how gorgeous they are
I think a lot of idols are alcoholics tbh. I remember JaeHyun joking about what kind of alcohol nct should have for breakfast but I don't think it was 100% a joke.
>>11927 I live on the mainland, Jackson is definitely relevant, he gets top tier cfs, Lucas much less but some people still know him from running man china
>>11930 it really is, they regularly talk about how many bottles of soju they can drink, and i remember a group bragging that they could finish 30+ bottles between the 5 of them in a night
I hope that's not true thats sad af. Ppl who do meth have marks on their body right? Like yoochun did? I guess if we start to notice weird marks then …
>>11945 seriously…theyre going to be the male versions of park bom if they keep going down that route
jimin is already getting that botoxed blow up doll face with the bloated ass face and giant sausage lips
im surprised he hasnt given himself double eyelids yet, he literally tries to fuck with everything else, but i guess if he gets the surgery he cant claim to be natural kek
>>11944 the gp already hate him, you really think those news wouldn't have leaked to the news circles? they love a good drug scandal, and then you add that to one of the most hated idols for the current generation, it's practically free exposure
>>11948 istg kboos see one article about koreans using meth bc of north korean supply or something and take it and run with it
the dude is definitely on something, but i would chalk it up to probably some kind of adderall abuse (adderall causes weight loss as well) plus a super fucked schedule
highly doubt this dudes shooting up meth inbetween practices
>>11950 It's too late. I feel like he missed his opportunity to fuck with his eyes. They all pretend like they have nothing done. People claim that jhope's nose is natural despite the very obvious rhinoplasty scar.
>>11953 why the fuck does jungkook look so skinny here? sometimes he looks buff and others he looks cracked out. what the fuck does this guy even look like?
Srsly just cuz some random anon on here says "korean sasaengs" doesn't make it true. ty and mark are valuable sm cashcows no way would sm let them do meth. if they wanted some uppers sm can just supply some prescription drugs for them.
>>11960 exactly…these guys dont have to go out searching for meth, sm 100% has doctors on their payroll who will write whatever fucking prescription amphetamine these kids want or need as long as it keeps the money flowing
>>11959 I just think some members might have an addiction to over the counter prescribed meds but not meth and ketamine Maybe so ouid during their Amurrican tours but nothing hard core Those ppl are basically overworked to the bone do you think they could handle a hard drug addiction
>>11948 >try harder You do know Idols have been busted for meth before right? Taegoon? Jaejoong was widely known to have done meth with him as well kek cope harder tho
>>11961 Please go back to stan twit, nctzen are the least funny kpop stans in existence. Yehet exol-tier Their eyes are puffy from all the crying they do over being stan powered flops while all their seniors have been massive hits.
>>11964 i don't remember where i saw it, but it was some video of jeno just acting super cracked out, like jumping off the walls, trying to eat people's heads and hands, falling off chairs, attempting at one point to fake drink hand sanitizer (?)
i would chalk it up to him trying to be funny, but the behavior was honestly so fucking odd i immediately thought they fucked the dose on whatever drug they gave him and he was just bouncing off the walls
this dude is literally just what jimin is going to be in 10 years kek just trying to cling to the vestiges of his old popularity that was primarily driven by fangirls ugly-stanning him
he'll just be a fat washed up idol knocking up 20-somethings while trying to remain relevant with fried ass pastel hair kek
There are actually white/international ssngs tho some of them were discussed on the previous thread. way back in tumblr days this one rich white chick who was ike 26 moved to korea and basically did nothing except follow sm idols and go clubbing.
>>11969 There are I-fans who have sasaeng circles, especially Indonesian sasaengs and Japanese ones. Mostly just exchange GC’s and translations. I’m anon from last thread, I promise you they exist lel I don’t know what else will convince you. They’re just Kpop fans but 100x as hard core idk what is “Kboo” about that
these retarded claims that SM has a doctor on their payroll that gives them whatever drugs they want is a way bigger fanfic than them buying drugs as if that chick top was fucking didn't supply half the industry
>>11938 Both groups just had very different images. I'm not saying that they still look the best now, but people kind of seem to forget just how cute exo looked at the beginning. That was the true reason they got so big so quickly, according to asian beauty standards all of them were considered a 10 even the fuglies. You didn't have such a visual group before them and you will never get one in the future, SM really outdid themselves when it comes to their plastic surgery and crafting their image. Meanwhile nowadays they debut guys who hump girls on tiktok, it's just very different, maybe that "perfect mysterious boys" formula wouldn't even work anymore nowadays.
>>11978 there literally was an article posted earlier about that…an industry insider did a full blown interview about how doctors will prescribe uppers and downers for companies to give to their idols
han seo hee was supplementing recreational shit like pot and cocaine, youre an idiot to think companies arent feeing their idols other stuff on the back end
>>11982 >according to asian beauty standards all of them were considered a 10 even the fuglies No they were not, sperg kek. They weren't as good looking as TVXQ. Are you even asian? Btw whatshisface looks like johnny in that pic.
>>11982 Noooo. Deffo the mysterious image would work, BP blew up with it recently, OG groups BB, 2NE1, 4Minute as well Nowadays the fan service boy groups give is so overbearing it would be so refreshing with a new BG who has Exo’s image. If only SM was smart enough. They keep fucking changing CEO’s it’s a mess idk what’s happening. Even the rumored GG is said by a SM trainer to be not “visually appealing”.
>>11783 I agree, maybe that’s why I like Exo now despite barely knowing anything personal about the members kek. But even when I was young I wasn’t obsessed with groups to follow their day to day schedules, uploads, interviews, etc. I should be glad that I was never like that but I seriously still question what it is that makes some fans so obsessed with a person that they don’t know. Especially with male idols, what’s the point? Even at my most interested with a group I just had a member (I think Dara of 2NE1 back in 2014) as my phone background (cringe). 2NE1 was fairly easy to keep up with back in the day bc they had like 2 promotional events before being shelved for another year. Still, I only looked up to 2NE1 as big sister figures which isn’t usually the case for obsessive kpop fans who stan idols that they’re in love with. Another thing is that I fawn over male idols’ visuals but I would probably not be interested romantically in them. I typically will get at most like fashion and beauty inspo from good looking male idols (as a woman). That includes outfit inspo from Jeno of NCT, who is one of the more “manly” members kek. But if it really came down to it I’d probably wanna date a guy who looks hotter by Western standards like Taecyeon (ridiculous example but a bitch can dream okay?) and not a kpop twink that gives me inspo for myself as a 5’4 woman.
>>11987 Have you seen old TVXQ performances during their debut era lol TVXQ only got cuter during Hi Ya Ya era Exo was cute during Mama era, got fugly when Wolf happened, ugly again during growl era, overdose era then hit their peak again ever since CMB It’s a SM thing, their BG’s have ugly phases
>>11996 did you even read the fucking article lol these dudes 100% have the means and probably know where to get hard drugs, and i wasnt disputing they arent using it, i was just saying they're probably on prescriptions because its more accessible
Jesus common sense is just lost on everyone here huh
US stars do drugs all the time and their management knows and even helps supply it.
SK ent industry isn't all that different. I'm sure SM has some staff/connections that help it's idols get prescriptions but SM isn't some evil entity where all the staff are eager to pump 17 year old kids with drugs.
if SM kids wanted hardcore drugs there are prolly drug dealers eagerly awaiting them and those drug dealers are most likely other idols. TY doing meth isn't the most outlandish thing tbh especially with superm and nct schedules.
>>12002 Everyone’s just saying it’s not possible someone like Taeyong or Nct as a whole is hooked on Meth lol it’s just unrealistic He might do other lighter drugs but not hard drugs what’s not easy to understand about that
>>11998 Most of that is just styling though, and a lot of that was just what was in style at the time. I bet loads of people thought TVXQ were attractive back then because guys in those terrible wolf cuts were genuinely seen as attractive… I even remember finding them cute when I was like 15… dark times
I'm agreeing, I def don't think all of nct is on drugs thats just ridiculous. I also don't think SM just supplies its cashcows with drugs/prescription or wants them to do drugs… thats like destroying your investment. if ty or mark wanted to try meth on their own tho they could very easily obtain it.
>>12015 Ok I gotta be real with you (I’m anon u replied to) Yoochun with Hug styling was cute But they looked best during O.JungHanBap and Hi Ya Ya era IMO While Exo looked perfect during Mama pre debut photo shoots
I think to us normal plebs the thought of doing meth or being supplied prescription uppers on the regular is outlandish but eating one meal a day consisting of two eggs and a sweet potato, sleeping for 3 hrs a day, getting fillers at 18 and needing to have regular IV drips to not pass out is also outlandish.
I think drugs are just a norm in the industry like in Hollywood. I don't think anyone bats an eye if nct members snort some coke before a show or light up a blunt at the end of the day.
>>12029 I feel like SM fucked up their streak by debuting their experimental group too soon. They had a really good thing going by debuting a small, talented group first and then following that with a big experimental one (see TVXQ -> Suju -> Shinee -> Exo) but then they went straight for experimental again even though they already had another big experimental group that was on the rise. Like how did they not see it as bad timing.
From what I know TY suffers from chronic back pain, also the way he dances and the techniques he uses are not good and he himself has said that he is in pain after dancing. I'm pretty sure hes been on painkillers for a while now since he has not stopped working at all. If hes hooked on anything its prolly painkillers, but if those don't work for him anymore …
Fucking boomers . Stop posting these busted ass dudes they are all has beens. Even JJ who was the only good-looking one in TVXQ has only done shitty dramas since his glory days
>>12038 remember this dance being everywhere back then. miss when kpop gg dances were actually memorable and got popular because i enjoyed cute guys imitating them
You see this guy? This is Yeonjin, who is hard carrying TXT right now. He can dance, sing, rap, has produced a song, and is not a complete uggo. You could see the gap between him and the other members in performances. Too bad BigHit will never give him the solo. Also he is 6 ft.
>>12039 OG meth anon here and all I know that they're assuming it's meth because the guy he hangs around with is apparently known for that. Could very well be buying other shit or they're just friends (lol)
Okay well lets talk about worst/best proportions. Despite kpop having "strict" standards there are some really unbalanced motherfuckers out there like the itzy chicks.
I think Joy and Irene have beautiful faces. Irene has a shit personality though. I think Seulgi is cute and her body is nice. Wendy and Yeri are ugly to me.
>>12091 He was supposedly banned because people kept comparing him to Xi Jinping, it was never really enforced though, I see Winnie the Pooh stuff all the time here
>>12090 >which lots of mainlanders can't even read we can read em just fine. but if you're taught traditional chars you'd have problems reading simplified
>>12081 Ryujin has very nice proportions despite being 163cm tall, her legs are as long as Yunas almost in some pics. Yejis legs in shorts makes me giggle
>>12096 I was taught simplified and have a hard time with traditional, granted I'm not 100% fluent. I've had some other mainlanders tell me they can only understand like half of stuff written in traditional though.
>>12098 Same, I feel like that's probably what I'd be like if I were an idol lol. Not like I'd ever have a chance, but it's nice to know there's room for different personality types.
I miss the meth phase of this thread. Anyways I wasn't expecting her arms to be that skinny, just makes her proportions even confusing, though her body is still quite good.
>>12122 she is the definition of a butterface she has a gorgeous body but goddamn her face is so bad to look at
not to mention she insists on doing sexy faces that border on "im passing a giant shit and it's stuck in my lower colon" and its so uncomfortable to look at
He has near perfect proportions that I forget how unbelievably tiny he is. itzy girl has a bigger head and shoulders. Its kind of cute how he can barley do 5 pushups but at times I wonder if everything is okay.
When will you EXO grannies learn to realize that EXO is not only old and busted, but it is essentially a has been group in the Kpop industry now. There are groups like pic related that make just as good music as EXO and are still making content. At least if you are a 3rd or 4th gen fan, you have stuff to look forward to. Move on.
>>12156 Pls anons stop convincing random plain flower boy idols can go into acting We already had the Eunwoo nostril catastrophe and we are gonna get bagel face Jaehyun too NO
>>12138 Meh I'd rather see female idols with some "unfortunate" but natural features than cookie cutter plastic faces that are so common in mid and low tier girl groups.
>>12163 No they’re actually really annoying on Twitter with this “4th generation” shit Also I still have flashbacks to how they acted during Roty season with Oneits Horrible.
>>12160 According to Google he's 185cm/6'1, so he might actually be somewhere in between 175-180. If I'm right txt consists of this kid and the one with triple eyelids, frog eyes, weird alien eyes and the irrelevant fifth one
The thread has gone to hell….well it was nice while it lasted ladies. I can't believe I had to witness four images of Hwasa with my own eyes on here. not even spoilerd. absolutely fucking satanic.
He looked so nice before sm fucked him over completely. I never even liked his personality I just liked looking at his face and now that is over for me. Is this what it feels like to be a yutafag?
K I wont post about hendery anymore after this but I wish he recovers from whatever he is going through and moves out of that filthy apartment. Idk about his personality but god I don’t understand how he started looking like this so quickly.
>>12198 First of all he gets about 2 a year, why drag him into this if you don't care about him beyond fingering your rotten boomer clam to his shirtless fancams and using his achievements to gas up Exo Second of all don't imply he's on the same level as the other Exos kek, even he knows he's above them
God can sm please make those assholes disband and give us KJI1 now fugg exols
>>12182 He's still hot wdym? Maybe it's just because he looks tanned (not whitewashed) in this picture that I'm saying that though. Does anyone else like unfiltered pics of male idols? >>12195 Glad that they're charting past #700 simply bc YG deserves to burn. BP needs to leave that agency and then YG will truly be fucked. >>12211 Is this Young K? I'm repulsed on his behalf.
>>12217 He seemed nice on Eric Nam show. If only I cared for TBZ kek He answered that in Korean tho? I think it's pretty obvious gay coding even for Koreans, so props to him for kinda outing himself
>>11991 I used to be one of those fans that kept up with daily with groups/idols and I still can't understand why I did that. The thing is I wasn't even the delusional "my idol cares about me" type or anything. I guess I was really bored, lonely, and immature at the time but I really regret all the time I wasted.
Where is the anon with EXO tea? Can you tell us what is the fight between Sehun and Jungkook?
There is an arab sasaeng made her way to the k-fans sasaengs inner circel and she posts on her private twitter alot of hints about male and female idols. Her hints are something like: - J & L "a fight". - his mr.perfect image would be ruined if his past exposed. - he want to go back to dating J again but she refused because he dated someone after their breakup. - an idol from a very known girl group used to work as a dancer in a bar/nightclub. - Sehun is getting cozy with his lover, his lover staying at his home for several days. - an idol from SM will be in big trouble if someone leaked what happend at the party in his house. (Drugs being exchanged and used between the guests).
>>12243 Treasure has shit songs so I doubt they’ll be famous YG should’ve just gone for a 5 member boygroup they’re dumb lol nobody is gonna check for a 12 member group seeing how saturated the idol market is
>>12248 YG knew that Treasure was going to flop digitally no matter what so they just added the Magnum idols that had 3 Japs in it to prop up the sales. The highest selling groups tend to have alot of members, albeit exceptions. Considering that their debut is the 8th highest selling Kpop debut of all time already with no restocks, it is working so far.
>>12264 hey you're on kpg too you're not that much better. anyway I'm not the supposed hwasashitter but I like her too, she has some great songs and she seems to be down to earth. I'd take an 'ugly' idol like her over someone like jennie or irene any day
>>11949 From what I’ve heard and read, meth is a popular drug in Korea. They snort it over there instead of smoke it. Tracks are from IV drugs like heroin usually.
>>12259 V looks good when he has some muscle on him. But because he's lazy/doesn't care he can never keep up with workouts so he goes back to looking skinny fat.
>>12269 You're just into a korea bargain bin rihanna wannabe. You're not any more woke for liking her instead of a classically beautiful girl, at least those boring girls are not embarrassing blackboos
>>12272 if I close my eyes I can still clearly hear that neither irene nor jennie can sing like hwasa. it's not about being woke, it's about being tired of idols who have nothing to offer other than good looks.
>>12275 See, if you were that into music you wouldn't be into idols full period lol and she's mediocre at best as a vocalist if you have a serious parameter; heck she's not even the best in her own group lol
>>12276 she's not mediocre, be real. a mediocre at best singer would be someone like rosé for example. hwasa isn't the greatest vocalist alive but she's good.
best in her group is clearly wheein but I just enjoy hwasa's raspy voice more. & there's nothing wrong with having some standards even if it's just kpop
anyone get a good chuckle from all the wailing at wanna one's goodbye concert? I feel bad for the fans but gotta hand it to CJ for ending things in a rather traumatic way
>>12282 it's a kpop forum, we're talking about kpop. who do you want me to compare her to, katy perry? pavarotti? I chose the first mediocre singer that came to mind
>>12285 just saying it's a bit sad that you resorted to defending her by comparing her to notoriously shitty-even-by-kpop-standards singers/performers >who do you want me to compare her to ailee kyuhyun
>>12287 I clearly stated that she's not the greatest vocalist but she's good. Anon said she's mediocre at best so I gave an example of an actual mediocre kpop vocalist. Ailee is a great vocalist so it wouldn't make sense to compare Hwasa to her in this context. Anyway this conversation is stupid
I was watching a documentary about India's beauty standards and this is literally the top comment. The way they write his real name as if that'd add some kind of credibility makes me want to choke
>>12291 I saw the same fucking comment, way to not engage with the actual video and ignore the balatant colourism displayed by the members themselves (RM included)
>>12305 i dont get how fans seem to think BTS isnt colorist/racist as hell
they're literally shown on camera multiple times for making fun of other members being dark, not to mention either RM or suga fetishizing the fuck out of black people, or V acting like they're dirty and not even wanting to touch them for a photo
From an article talking about trainee abuse. The part about the iv drips is too real, I’ve seen so many videos of idols getting done with their performance and just straight up collapsing.
Also the part about being “called” gave me chills. I would almost guarantee that this happens in those small no name agencies I wonder how often it happens at the bigger ones.
>>12304 taehyun has crazy eyes. anons are right they are actually botched and mediocre, I doubt bighit will ever get the bts 2.0 they wanted out of them.
>>12320 except pattinson is actually talented kek what does V have going for him other than his face and the fact that he's convinced ratmys that his hoarse wailing is palpable
I highly doubt it tbh. Their manager lives with them and they are barley 1 yr old. When they want to get laid they prolly go to hotels/ guest houses or maybe go to other idols places for parties.
Does anyone remember that scandal back in the day, basically an idol group had a party with girls and one slept with a girl and then another guy (random guy) went in the same room and assulted her? Was it an infinite member?
>>12327 Are sex parties a thing in the kpop industry? Seems pretty common in the American music industry but a bunch of kpop manlets having orgies makes me cringe.
>>12331 Yes I’m 12330 anon and I was trying to find the article but I can’t remember who was involved in it. Basically an idol member got caught up in a sexual assault case. Later it was found out that he didn’t assault the girl, he was at a party and slept with the girl in a room. When the girl was drunk in the room some guy( manager or a rando/someone not fameous) assulted her. Basically it was found out it was something like a sex party where a bunch of ppl were hooking up .
Yes, it was that. There were some follow up articles and some of the comments hilighted how it was a hookup party & gross how 2 sets of ppl went to the rooms to hook up.
Idols who have their own apartments have gatherings and can invite idols who may still be dorming. VIP sections of clubs exist too. When I was a bb fan I followed a lot of twitter/tumblr accounts of girls who went to Korea to work/study and were koreaboo a. One of them went to the club YG owned a lot and she saw bb members there always in the vip section sometimes they would bring girls there and buy them drinks ect
>>12335 God I would feel sorry for their preteen fans being exposed to that.
The Burning Sun scandal and snuff film rumours were so unexpected, so if something like that involving bts happened their career would be shattered + kpop would get an even worse reputation in the west.
>>12337 if anything their preteen fans would shield them while simultaneously not knowing what an orgy was…or just blame the evil women for corrupting their poor oppa
when jk's scandal came out and the girl had a coke tattoo there was a bunch of people inferring that jk likely snorted coke which is a perfectly reasonable assumption and the meltdown of "poor jungkook baby is scared of women she probably bullied him into it" was everywhere
>>12345 i wouldnt be surprised if it was daniel, i feel like the top idols right now (unfortunately that means BTS and big 3 groups) are too shielded and paid off to really get into anything or have anything leaked
daniel has just enough fame for the media to chase after him, but not enough to keep shit out of the news
honestly im still surprised zico didnt go down with the rest of them, dude is absolute trash
>>12349 He fucks up every time he posts something on twitter. On his birthday he posted a pic in a very easily identifiable hotel. Ratmy found the exact room he was in and it was obviously a romantic night away with someone. Idk why that one was swept under the rug because it was obvious he brought his fuckbuddy there.
Yeah I mean there are dozens of these compilations on YouTube. The desire to perform and be thin is prolly a motivation. I don’t think agencies care that much about idols health hence >>12315
>>12354 He gives me major gross vibes too. There are TONS of hints about him just like there were with Senguri. Anyone who continues to stan him is just asking to be disappointed.
well it was so well hidden that not many pics are floating around but this is the balcony of his hotel room that he stayed in on his birthday. This hotel is in Seoul, near his home… Not sure why else he would stay in a hotel like this if not with a girl he's fucking.
>>12359 He actually posted THIS? And with two glasses of wine too topkek might as well announce that he's about to fuck someone But I remember ratmys making it about their retarded Jungkook Jimin ship
Just read through a “signs of meth use” article and based on it V would be most suspicious tbh. Major personality changes, withdrawal from others, high followed by an extreme low, depression and paranoia and anxiety. Everyone has noticed how V’s jaw got more square and ppl were saying ps, but continued jaw clenching increases ur jaw size too. JK to me at least doesn’t exhibit these.
>>12360 No lmao, he didn't post this. This is a pic from someone else staying in his hotel after he posted a pic of himself in his room. That is the exact room he was in though because the picture he did post was so easily identifiable. He's so stupid sometimes.
I remember seeing this 50 year old ”noona” army on twitter a while ago, apparently her daughter got her into them. The 50 year old made a tweet about how her daughter is really depressed but bts ”helped them both so much” and it got a fair amount of likes. Wonder if the daughter will slowly realize that they are just typical lowlife celebrities, all while having a mom who is obsessing over korean men in their late 20s.
Same goes for that person who named their kid Namjoon/Rap Monster/idk I don’t remember.
I broke the news of JK in Jack's Bar on LC KPC and some bitches had the nerve to say that I was lying, I cackled when Dispatch exposed him a few weeks afterwards
Okay it actually didn't take me long to find it. This is the original picture that jk posted on twitter (buy some cuticle oil you rodent) Army is fucking crazy and found his location within 20 fucking minutes.
they found his exact room and booked it I guess and posted this of the exact room. Now tell me he stayed in this hotel, near his own house for no damn reason? Turns out this hotel room was CHEAP too. so he didn't bring a girl he actually likes there, he brought a girl he fucks when he's bored.
>>12370 i mean not defending him but i wouldnt bring a random chick im fucking back to my house, what if she decides she doesnt want to leave or keeps coming back kek
but the girl should know how he sees her, but i doubt these chicks care
>>12373 Naah, I'm not the girl who told about spotting him on twitter. I posted on LC an ig post of a random dude saying that JK was in Jack's Bar in that night. It was one of the last kpc/kpg threads before it getting shut down on LC
Didn’t they all buy mega nice and super private houses/apartments? That one Hannam the hill place is supposedly really restricted so they can do whatever they want there and fangirls will never know. If they r still taking chicks to motels/hotels then yikes. Apparently he also took the tattoo chick to a guesthouse or something.
>>12378 the hotel in the pics was literally $30 a night. He's known for being really cheap though. He didn't even own a pillow for years and slept on a rolled up towel. What I don't get is how can he be such a fucking idiot to post that pic when he knows his fans will find out his exact location… doesn't matter though, it was completely ignored by army for some reason.
>>12379 The balcony looks nice for 30 bucks tho. The room must be trash then. But it's dumb of him too because in a place so cheap there are more chances of privacy breaches like hotel staff leaking CCTV (just like the trashy noraebang did with him)
>>12381 They don't actually live there. I mean they have a community apartment that they sometimes use if they need to with an early schedule the next day but 99% of the time they're at their own apartments.
JK just seems reckless to me not sleezy. Idt he’s cunning enough to be sleazy. Like he could have easily said no to this pic but idt he cared at all. Managing him must be a headache for BH.
>>12378 I wouldn't bring a hook up to my house even if it's a luxury condo too tho tbh. But he could be more classy like Kai and bring his dates to an actually nice hotel.
>>12384 Namjoon and Jin own apartments in Hannam the Hill. Jhope and Jk live in Seoul Forest or Trimmage idk it's all on youtube. The point is they all live in expensive condos with top grade security
>>12330 Inspiritfag here I can answer. From what I heard from fans who were in ssng circles Woohyun fucked some girl (consensually) at a party and left and within that same night after he left she was assaulted by another guy at the party. Because the cops found a condom in the trash with WHs nut in it he was investigated but the victim cleared him.
>>12391 Out of all the groups, TXT members should get the most sleep at night knowing their shitty BTS sunbais are hard carrying them. What the hell does Soobin do that keeps him up at night and causes those dark ass circles?
most male ''visuals'' these days look haggard after a year of their debut plus soobin isnt visual material he looks like a stretched Btob Minhyuk when will we have a male visual that has korean actor level looks
>The Burning Sun scandal and snuff film rumours were so unexpected, so if something like that involving bts happened their career would be shattered + kpop would get an even worse reputation in the west.
response >idgaf. I hope it happens. I hope jimin and jk run a train on the wrong girl and we get all the juicy details.
to the completely retarded anon with 0 reading comprehension
>>12402 male visuals are boring and haggard because they're manufactured now, you pump them full of filler and cut their jaws so they have an expiration date of 1 year before they start bloating kek
Hoya who used to be in Infinite said this in amagazine interview and it still haunts me. This will forever be the most cringey thing a kpop idol has ever said. Like I truly do not think anything will compare to this level of cringe.
it looks like they grabbed some rando asian guy off the street, caked his face with makeup, did his hair, and threw him into a suit. what do moas see in him
>>12410 txt can hold up so much convo in kpg during boy group hours and gaypg is just filled with moas. how do they falseflag this much? at least ateez and stray kids have more twitter shenanigans and are not boring.
there is literally no tea on nct ever. their gossip is stale af and consist of random "TY is doing meth I know because of ssng" and overanalyzing member relationship or bashing Lucas and TY looks. At least BTS has some legit stuff that can be gossiped out.
>>12419 not to defend him because hes mediocre as hell but isnt that most idols
without the styling and makeup they all look boring as hell, and some of them look downright weird because they fix their faces to do well with heavy stage makeup
>>12411 Compared to the rest of Bighit he is the only one I can tolerate (at least for now) He isn’t visual material but his face isn’t pumped with fillers yet at least. Idk about the swollen eye thing though.
>>12435 Taeyong looks like a bug and he moves like one too and his head is 3 times the size of a normal human. There's simply no denying his hideousness
>>12433 im here and i find minhyuk so much more attractive, probably because he's one of btob's weakest links and yet still has more talent than the entirety of txt kek
Ratmys crying about their millionaire oppars being 'body shamed' is so pathetic.
Keeping a slight muscle tone as a man in his 20s who works a physically demanding job is extremely easy, plus judging by the way they look, bts are allowed to be anything ranging from ana to borderline fat anyway. I feel like a couple years ago all members of a group having an athletic or at least a thin body was the norm, so what's with all that drama nowadays? Just look at how few normie young korean guys are fat, male idols absolutely don't need to put in as much of an effort as fans claim.
>>12447 not to mention it's literally their job to look good, fans can cry all day about how they're successful because of talent but at the end of the day these dudes are paid to dance around and get girls to cream their pants for their looks
having a good/pleasant body to look at is a part of the job description, you cant demand to not be judged for your looks while simultaneously being an idol and raking in that cash
>>12447 I feel like normie korean are all chubby or at least skinny fat. But it'a literally the idols job to look good so fuck weightlift! The problem is also the fans tbh because the autistic kchildren that stan idols prefer fragile bodies.
>>12454 I'm that very same anon who said that at first and your most recent post has proven me very wrong about that assumption. You're just a 14 year old from twitter. You did quote a post in your original by the way
>>12448 She's all plastic but I love her. She's a Korean woman who is actually allowed to say what she thinks and doesn't have to giggle and smile all the time that's fucking rare. Remember when Irene got shit for literally just not laughing and smiling 24/7 at that dumb fucking show. More female celebs like her please
If this thread can't go one day without inane infighting spergouts and rule violations then I'll have to reconsider if it's worth keeping. Stop antagonizing each other and stop taking bait.
>>12453 Exactly. The average model get's paid close to nothing while getting down to a bmi of like 15 meanwhile bts can't even be arsed to not have a double chin. Plus how can they claim to dance 20 hours per day and they're still not fit…? Something just doesn't add up.
>>12456 Korea (and Japan) has the least amount of fat people. And I wouldn't exactly call bts fragile either, most of them are just skinnyfat/normal.
>>12472 op post u replied to was talking about irene >more female idols like her jessi isnt an idol anon but i agree if it was jessi u were refering to anon lel mb she was pretty with minimal ps though
>>12478 I know they don't have a overweight and obese BMI, but they look chubby. Probably helps that any weight gain goes straight to the face at first.
>>12499 she's not a stayfag she's probably the same anon who's been weirdly obsessed with felixs jawshave for 4 threads now always posting the same picture
>>12492 Reporting is enough, you don't need to fuel the infighting by responding.
I've handed out a lot of warning bans, if this continues then the users will be banned permanently. I'm not going to continue deleting all the posts that resulted in bans, you can clog up your threads if you must.
>>12493 LC has more activity overall and most of the users ITT don't contribute to other threads and only come here to talk about kpop, which also causes the majority of reports at the moment. If this continues then I see no reason to harbor /kpg/ refugees.
>>12504 Yes, I understand. I was just being pessimistic in regards to the chances of people complying. Thanks anyways for your efforts, I know this thread must be a hassle.
Anyways, to move on from all this in-fighting: What is hands down the most cringey thing an idol has ever done in your opinion? For me this is less an individual idol and moreso a group but the episode of that BTS show where they are in LA where they get fake kidnapped will never not keep me up at night asking myself why they thought that was a good idea.
im between nct trying to explain sex lyrics (whiplash = my sister?) and that idiot from stray kids making up a whole fake company to dispute being a sex offender
>>12508 The dumb gay/shower together/shipping shit Baekhyun always pulls. Willing to bet he was the one that made Ten put his leg over his too during that earlier live they did. Based TY gave them the biggest WTF bitch look but fans took that and made that into a shipping jealously fantasy.
Speaking of SperM and cringe, Scamyong using that obnoxious post-wall grimlin, Baekhyun, for clout always makes me want to kill myself. Scam is always the only one who laughs at his unprovoked autistic screeching, but unfortunately for him it still isn't getting him any brownie points from bbh-ls.
>>12516 Sure Jan. I’m going to need a link for that “proof” because I also looked up the address and the company and found nothing. You’d think that a business would actually try to promote itself or have other clients and employees aside from its artist. If the company has been around for years then why is there only one artist that at the soonest joined the agency in 2019?
>>12519 The way they treat eachother…? Have you ever actually paid any attention to superm or the members? They get along better than any other two members and never showed any signs of unironically hating eachother. Kai might hate ten though, they've interacted maybe twice since debut. Also, I asked you first.
For the record Kai is more entertaining in superm than he ever was in exo. They hated him.
>>12517 seriously…this is so obnoxious the thing is fans eat it up, im pretty sure theres a manager in the back fucking miming for these dudes to grab a thigh or make a dirty comment because they know the fangirls love it
Foreign stalker circles definitely exist. There are a ton of ssng that are from China/philipines/thai ect.
Just wanted to add another 30 year old woman stalking kids to the thread. This chick is Thai and born in 1990 and a fan of Enhyphen who are literally born from 02-04. She used to be a fansine master and followed Ten/at one point Dream around. She's also friends with other fansites/stalkers so they prolly do share info amongst each other and they are prolly around the same age.
>>12531 the most notorious saesangs are chinese/SEA…the comments in here about international saesang rings are the ones making fun of people believing white koreaboos who run fake twitter accounts
>>12463 it's a japanese trainee/competition show the 'egg' part is pretty much referring to how eggs hatch to a chick, like from trainee to idol
>>12531 chinese sasaengs are by far some of the most hardcore ones. i remember years ago some c-sasaeng posted a video of her and other sasaengs on instagram chasing taemin and kai down the street while they were running away from them
Something I've noticed - many groups have big age gaps between members. ~5 years or more. Why? Are they trying to attract more fans (of different ages)?
>>12533 I remember seeing a video of Chinese stalkers following nct down the street for a pretty long time until they were able to get to a taxi. If anyone has the video pls share
>reactivates ig >gets hates messages, again >surprised pikachu face is this girl retarded or an attention whore? at this point she only has herself to blame.
>>12561 you telling us how tall txt are is not going to make us interested in them. i don't know why you think this is the place to shill your nugu group, this thread isn't for that.
>>12562 That is what makes TXT good. Musically they are not distinct so they can fit any concept. The producers shill them into diverse concepts and lyricism that other groups don't tackle.
>>12566 >irrelevant members Daisy was the main rapper and Yeonwoo and Taka(?) were the main visuals. Apparently they put out a comeback for the fans that sold less than nugu girl group debuts. Naeun is now acting and they are sponsoring children's programming and tampons.
>>12569 lmao @ sm forcing nature republic on nct127 after exo finished with them. nr is demonic.. i almost feel bad for 127 but i guess if it wasn't for this they wouldnt have any brand deals.
>>12571 i thought the moafag got a warning ban yesterday since they were quiet for around 12 hours, but guess they didn't learn
>>12570 nature republic is the equivalent of like bath and body works in korea lol, but they literally cannot get anything else so im sure sm just takes whatever they can
>>12568 >>12566 Dunno if anyone cared abt taeha that much but Yeonwoo was one of the most popular members. Her leaving was a pretty big blow to the group. Dunno when theyre gonna have a comeback, since Starry Night didnt even get a real mv.
Im surprised Nayun's the one to go into acting. In all the momoland mvs I've watched, she only ever looked like she had exactlt one sole expression that she could do.
>>12577 korea usually seems way stricter about showing stuff like that though, like pretty minimal hints of sex or drug references can be pretty controversial
even smoking isn't usually allowed to be shown in korean media and that's legal, plus kpop is usually consumed by a young fanbase and is seen as a 'less degenerate' alternative to western media in a lot of non-western countries
idols will be criticised if they even swear in public, but gambling in MVs is somehow fine?
>>12577 >>12578 plus idols are sort of supposed to be role models (even if most of them aren't) and present a very sanitised image, it's one of the things that separates them from musicians, it's literally why they're called 'idols'
>>12548 > Such a good day! Lmao this has to be an anti. Even with zero self awareness (which you have) you would have fucked off already, even a retard would understand blatantly obvious responses like this >>12571 for like 2 threads now.
>>12577 Idols can’t even show their tattoos or mention brand names during their stages. Korea may have some of the most retarded censorship laws known to man. They’re all about image, not substance.
>>12581 exactly, this is why I find it strange that gambling apparently isn't covered by the censorship laws that regulate tattoos/smoking/sex/swearing/etc
>>12582 oh no, the pure retardation that your posts reek of are telling enough, we'd just like for you to stop posting pics and sharting yourself about txt
Crystal sisters, I have a confession to make. Thanks to Lucas fag I have seen the light and it shines like Xuxi. I tried to fight against it but my attraction towards him is too strong. I would unironically risk it all for him.
Does nct have any good songs or should I just keep saving his photos and ignore music?
>>12590 Personally I liked Boss which I'm pretty sure lucas was on and some other nct 127 songs that lucas wasn't on. Not too hot about wayv, which is the unit that he's in but that's just my taste.
>>12590 my gripe about lucas on any song is that his voice is so distinct because he just yells loudly to a beat, so its so jarring because every time he shows up its just incoherent lucas noises and throws off the whole song
>>12601 how long have you been a fan of nshitt? when i was a fan i almost immediately caught that lucas' voice is just annoying ass yelling and not just when he sings, prolly one of the reasons i never liked him beyond him being relatively good looking. like when he speaks its so fucking annoying, as if he was trying to sound deeper than he actually is
>>12602 I am a fan since today. lol I used to be a hardcore "bts-pop" army till like 2017/18 and after that, I mostly stopped listening to k-pop. Ngl tho, I too find his talking voice a bit annoying. I tried to watch funny moments compilations and his screeching made it hard not to close them.
So is blackpink going to promote their newest title song or…? This comeback had like zero hype following their last two releases and there's still yet to be a dance practice, a performance MV, or a live dance performance stage.
Daily reminder that this thread is on a warning by Admin so if you dont stop taking the bait and infighting we're gonna be kicked out from yet another imageboard
>>12576 Gambling is just an ~aesthetic~ like Bond, Oceans Eleven and whatever movie set in Las Vegas/Monaco. It's just Hollywood culture assimilation. In my country gambling is also illegal but these poker/roulette imagery is often times used in entertainment. It's hypocritical down the line but I guess I get it.
>>12612 i mean they include photocards and shit, its just for fangirls who will blindly buy anything with ther oppa on it (and often in large quantities to get a specific one)
>>12609 I think I'm going to watch the doc but I doubt anything juicy will come of it, though there have been juicy things in kpop docs in the past like the BTS one. But despite disliking BP I can't dislike Jisoo. She's just so harmless and kind of cute in that way. Her english is cute.
>>12614 is there a bts documentary on netflix? i assume if this blackpink one gets any traction ratmys are going to rage and demand one for their oppas
I know ppl shit on BB a lot but I legit like them, their songs always make it on my spotify and I love their aesthetic. I hope they take over bts in the US because at least they can actually speak english and aren't selling some woke sob story 24/7.
I can see the American public actually liking bb and American celebs actually interacting with them in a somewhat genuine way.
>>12618 thanks for clarifying haha i was confused if it was big bang
but i agree, honestly their music is pretty bad and rose has an insufferable voice, but i like how they're unapologetically in it for the fame and money like every other star out there
the girls are always trying to be social media stars, and i dont ever see them running around trying to pretend to care about social issues or be "woke"
sure, their fans are almost as insufferable, but at least the girls are pleasant to look at for the most part and content with making mediocre music and posting pretty pictures
if that unfortunate dude is from treasure i wanna add that every korean dude is so ugly in that group lmao the japanese guys are slightly better looking and yoshi honestly touched some sweet spot in me, he has what suga wants, i hope they don't fuck his face up with ps or fillers
The brown/dirty blonde hair looks best on him no doubt. This current Elsa look is doing nothing for him and that sad upper lip filler makes him look like a freaky clown. All NCT2020 members look haggard af lately but Jaemin looks like he lost the last 15 pounds that made him look human.
I like jet black hair/eyebrows Jaemin, but it makes him look older so SM will never
>>12633 yuck….hard agree none of the treasure kids look good, are koreans finally realizing idol life is shit or are all the pretty kids just becoming instagram models
>>12646 Ok? All I’m saying he is 15, he will probably grow into his looks so it’s not fair calling a teenager ugly Especially assuming you are over 18 Kek
>>12649 was just reading about this, unsurprising considering his dad is dirty as hell too, i wonder how rich they are and if it'll be able to cover up all the shit they're undoubtedly into
>>12651 kid's ugly and mediocre af, are we witnessing the birth of a treasurefag now too
>>12652 i mean anyone who thinks a young 20-something with no executive or management experience could be named a director of a media company without anything shady going on is delusional
the dude is dirty as hell, not to mention they've dug up that half his "good deeds" were just mediaplay
>>12657 Lol because this statement is written by WOMEN that actually suffer sexual harrassment in their workplace because of the nurse stereotype? They probably think disgusting sleazy men drooling over school girls is just as disgusting if not more. Way to miss the point.
>>12658 except nurse outfits have been around forever, not to mention a bunch of other idol groups have also used slutty nurse costumes (off the top of my head EXID definitely has)
i get people have a hate boner for blackpink but this just seems like actual hypocritical nitpicking kek
>>12649 >>12652 >>12653 >i mean anyone who thinks a young 20-something with no executive or management experience could be named a director of a media company without anything shady going
omg this reminds me of the tea I've had about gangs and kent for a while. It falls more into Khiphop so I didn't share it but I will just post it now since its so slow here.
>>12659 Nah nurse unions/associations have been also complaining about those sexy halloween/sexshop costumes forever, this is nothing new, they're being consistent with their class and gender interests
>>12659 I get your point kind of but that doesn’t excuse sexualizing female dominated jobs and their clothing’s Especially in a place like korea where nurses are sexually harassed because of media depiction like that and it’s on the news every time Even tho I think the costume Jennie was wearing was just a 40s nurse scrub
>>12663 It is a 40s nurse scrub but this was an objectifying uniform. The union says in their statement they have historically fought for abolishment of nurse caps and dresses in uniforms, one of the reasons why such depictions feel like setbacks
>>12659 You're basically saying what male netizens are commenting so maybe reconsider? Kek Korean men hate any slightly feminist stance so I would not want to side with them for the sake of Blackpink/YG defense.
>>12659 a lot of korean feminist organizations are upset because in the nth room case and the burning sun ring, there was a demand for trafficked (and underage) girls to dress up in themed costumes and apparently nurse costumes were popular
>>12600 Of the few lines he gets in Superm, most of them are these cringy… phrases that make him sound like a DDR announcer and thats not really on him. But I've never thought he sounded weird or too loud in anything else. I like his voice, deep voices are superior. Might be better suited for singing.
>>12605 Something very autistic about your constant "jock/fratboy" comments. It's like you think in wattpad tropes like incels with the chad/stacy shit.
>>12668 even nctfans make fun of lucas for being a dumb jock lol wtf are you on
even he himself has said in interviews he was absolutely dogshit at school but good at sports…and if you genuinely think the dude wouldn't have been a frat bro if he went to an american college you're delusional
you can say the dudes attractive all he wants and it's true, people find him attractive (how else would he have gotten into sm kek) but youre an idiot to say he doesnt have shit for brains and is a dumb meathead
>>12655 read that the situation is korea with nurses is fucked up, and ever since nth room's biggest room was a nurse-fetish related one the increase of sexual assault and rapes among female nurses have increased along with the severe sexualization of nurses in general and porn watching
>>12670 >even nctzens make fun of lucas for being a dumb jock You mean the handful underage indo nctzens on instagram who never moved on from nct2018, still call Kun a fatass, ship Johnten, and unironically do think in wattpad tropes? Those retards?
I don't think he has a 195 IQ either but >and if you genuinely think the dude wouldn't have been a frat bro if he went to an american college you're delusional Legit makes you sound like you're on the spectrum and you have to put everybody into a box. Outside the nct variety content he's like a normal mama's boy bitch.
I think gangsters and gangs are way more connected to kent than any of us know thb. Even in khiphop which isn't that big there are gang connections. Does anyone remember that rap kid NOEL with the politician father? He got a DUI accident and someone else was gonna take the fall for him + he was going to pay the victim off
The story is sus af because what kind of "friend" arrives at a scene ready to take the fall for you for an accident? Willing to even risk jail time if it got found out? not a friend lol.
NOEL kid is from the same label as KIDMILLI owned by SWINGS. Both NOEL and KIDMILLI r friends with a kid named STAYHOMEBOY and they are all friends with this guy
who is obviously a gangster. He deleted a lot of his pics where he would be standing around with his gang buddies. Previously I clicked on the tagged pics he had of his friends and they were all gangters too, with the whole body tattoo, driving benz, gold watches money posted on instagram ect… apparently this guy "owns a restaurant" and sells some kimchi brand.
The KIDMILLI rapper is a pretty new rapper and he went on this reality show SMTM once and since then he did a lot. He started a clothing brand, featured on a lot of pplls tracks including Taemin, bought some really expensive cars and even became a judge on SMTM
He isn't all that amazing tho and a lot of ppl were questioning A. how he's making all this money B. Why he's everywhere despite not being that popular among hip hop fans.
The STAYHOMEBOY guy also is like 22/23 and owns a restaurant and he's also either dating or friends with that actress Sohee Ahn who was accused of having a sponsor since she just kinda blew up out of nowhere. stay homeboy is brothers with Lee Gwangmin of Yellowsmob ( a lot of them now working for AOMG) who beat his girlfriend and forced her to take his pills and shit
Well anyways the evidence is sort of lax, but I really think that the "friend" who came to take the blame for NOEL was prolly someone with connection to the gangster. It all blew up in NOELS face cuz he got caught but yeah. Its weird how all these random 20 somethings are blowing up, getting connected, and rising to fame so suddenly. I don't know if these gangsters are using these rappers to push drugs or if they are investing in their business and the businesses are used for money laundering? I don't know how gangs operate.
It reminds me of Senguri and Yoochun because once it was all exposed yoochuns ex was connected with senguri too and was involved with spreading the spycams and like all these nasty ppl knew each other somehow.
I know we hate wayv here, but this vlog episode of theirs feels so real and natural. Members like Ten/Winwin and Yangyang/Hendery seem to genuinely like and have good chemistry with each other, which is a breath of fresh air from seeing other nct members thinly veil their hatred for each other.
>>12684 is nct considered gen4? theyre so floppy i cant tell if theyre gen3 and just finally got mediocre traction in gen4, or if theyre truly considered gen4
but youre right, there literally is not a single fandom thats just quiet and unproblematic…granted boy groups tend to attract fucking nutters but still
Honestly I'm so inspired by Yeri and Jaemin. I want to get lip fillers too. I've been on the fence about it but fuck it you only live once and I want to be pretty
>>12686 nct are gen 3 in my eyes but i guess its complicated since a couple members debuted in 2018, 2019, then the 2 new ones who still technically haven't debuted yet… while some have been performing under sm since what, 2012? um
>>12689 at least that was funny. you guys are nothing but a bunch of annoying fakebois with bad dye jobs and developmental issues.
>>12692 Gen 4 and gen 3 stans are pretty similar. It's just that gen 4 stans are obsessed with babying and coddling idols to the point it's legitimately unnerving, while gen 3 stans were hornier and more bold about doing obsessive shit, like stalking and mailing idols period blood letters and what not. I think the differences mostly boils down to fact that companies have changed marketing tactics over the years. In gen 3, companies wanted to go for a mature and sexy image, while now gen 4 companies have been really pushing the whole "cute" and "baby" idol image. You'll never see any suju level live tongue wrestling nowadays, the same way there weren't bgs with bright pink hair who specialized in aegyo back then. In any case, pretty much all kpop fandoms are awful no matter what generation and I don't see the point in comparing them.
>>12696 Ngl these are fine. Were there any ps or just fillers? In my country most woman who get lip fillers are have duck lips. Idk if they over did it or the ps is shitti here lol
don't know y ur post got ppl pressed lol. I like this episode too. Idk about wayv being more genuine than nct tho. I don't think you should take anything they do at facevalue. They are all ambitious people, they survived sm training and they all want attention and money/fame. Not to mention that they most likely have have body issues and are hyper aware of what others think and say.
You just can't combine people like that and get peaceful harmony no matter what.
I think wayv comes off as closer because they are all foreigners working in Korea and they are probably not treated the same as Koreans. Chenle and Renjun aren't in wayv but they are closest to the wayv members. Chenle is supposed to be bff's with Jisung and a ton of people say that they can feel their genuine connection. However, Chenle has admitted that he isn't totally fluent in Korean and struggles to express complex thoughts in Korean. He only speaks Chinese with renjun when not on camera because they find it awkward to talk in Korean. So he most likely isn't as bffs with Jisung as depicted. There was an incident when a staff told RJ to not talk about WW and fans freaked out and thought it was because of racism, but I think it was because it was a live and RJ was supposed to promote one of his relationships within dream instead of making it obvious that hes closest to chinaline. Yeah so wouldn't buy into their closeness/distance stuff too much, there is a lot we don't see.
>>12668 >Something very autistic about your constant "jock/fratboy" comments. It's like you think in wattpad tropes like incels with the chad/stacy shit
You put it so elegantly anon lol. When will people stop with this Lucas fratboy analysis its so outdated and dumb. Also him being a fuckboy, dude has not displayed one single fuckboy trait. > a normal mama's boy bitch. accurate lmao
Someone made a video of the Taehyung Vibe check. I don't want to be nitpicky, especially because I can appreciate an idol that doesn't fake it, but this makes me feel gross for some reason.
>>12703 Sometimes the close friendships are the ones you least suspect. I remember last year Lucas said that among all the members older than him the ones he’s closest with are Johnny and Yuta. That made me do a double take tbh
>>12711 Considering he is a control freak who can neither sing nor rap himself and has zero good songs in his entite discog, I can't see how anything good can come of this but we'll see.
Remember the anon who said that "Bts would get caught by dispatch in October inb4 their comeback"…. Well Dispatch and BH signed a contract so no juicy info The shit dispatch was gonna come with must have been serious tho since they're probably signing a contract so it doesnt affect the IPO
>>12711 How long til Exo's contract expires? They debuted in 2011, if it's a 10 year contract that would mean that ex Exo-M soon no longer needs to share their profits. That will be a gigantic loss of income, SM is probably shitting their pants already kek
>>12726 Lee Soo Man even congratulated him on opening is own company, but it is supposedly not under SM. So why? Does he think he will get a share, what kind of deal do they have?
>>12726 i believe they have one more year, would not be surprised if they disbanded
DO is back from the military soon and likely will go down the acting route, chanyeol has his own production company (?) from what i heard, chen is busy making more children and baekhyun is essentially a soloist
i dont see EXO doing anything other than fading into obscurity after the contract ends, everyone has individual activities anyways
>>12730 i mean shareholders react to sales and general public reception, not surprised they're not a fan of NCT considering they flopped for almost 4 years before kind of garnering some traction this year
this is night and day compared to how exo was received, so of course they would be wary when exo left for the military
>>12731 >kind of garnering some traction m8 they're still flops and are not on the gp's radar. they did evolve from never seen the top 200 to stan-powered mess but they still have zero hits and they're still struggling to keep up with groups that debuted in 2018, under non-big 3 companies at that.
>>12727 It's not under SM but he gets a % of Lay' activities in China, same goes for all EXO-M But maybe he'll be an investor too, who knows. That's his chance of not losing the Chinese market.
>>12730 Why do you say that? NCT have activities on the daily despite not being very successful, they're the opposite of neglected.
>>12733 Their contract ending will be a gigantic loss for SM, I wonder what they plan to do. Butter Lay up so that he and with him at least some sweet yuan stay?
The requirements for his trainees are so funny, it's basically a long list of the specifics of what your video should consist of and in the end they add this kek >5. Include a one inch bare faced official photo showing your forehead with your registration form. Please keep in mind to not over edit the picture. Yeah, I bet talent is suuuper important here
>>12733 i assume he's letting lay do whatever he wants in china because he gets a cut, despite being untalented and ugly lay gets a ton of attention in china between his asslicking of the communist party and random appearances on tv shows
honestly i would not be surprised if lay was driving the bulk of exo income right now while everyone else is either serving or irrelevant/shunned (sehun and chen kek)
baekhyun probably will go solo, idno what the fuck kai is gonna do, and chanyeol seems content with just producing from his own private little gig
>>12732 i never said they weren't still flops, but you have to admit they've definitely gained traction in this past year despite their music still being trash
>>12734 >NCT have activities on the daily despite not being very successful, they're the opposite of neglected. Yea that's exactly what I meant, dumbass.
>>12732 >> not on the gp's radar I don’t get why people still use this as a argument, what boygroup is relevant with Gp? this Time is over only fandom counts now nct are still flops tho
>>12741 when people say gp i usually think of general kpop listeners, not "everyone", not sure if thats how other people see it
im sure a good majority of people in korea will hear these random kpop songs on the radio/while shopping, but theyre not going to be able to name the band or any members
nct is considered a flop because even in the kpop fan circle people still didnt really know who they were until recently or be able to name any members outside of like fucking scamyong and mark (but thats also sm's fault for making two baseball teams worth of members and only promoting two)
>>12739 Kick It was the only thing in the past year that garnered any sort of success for nct, the comeback after that flopped and nct 2020’s success probably isn’t worth betting on. I don’t think nct has gotten any more traction this year, they’re flopping as much as ever.
>>12739 yes they've gained traction since Boss, what's your point?
>>12741 plenty of groups are or were to varying degrees, even new ones like itzy kind of. but it is true that there's no danger of any of these lil noise music bgs getting big with the gp ig. acknowledging that kpop has become a niche fandom thing still doesn't make that look any less floppy in my eyes.
>>12743 i highly doubt 2020 is going to get anything, there are just way too many people, i cant imagine a normal kpop fan would want to bother to learn 20 names especially when their music is weird and half the dudes are ugly as fuck
iirc dream's comeback did fairly well, but not sure if it's just artificially inflated by rabid noonafans
i wonder with all this reality show stuff and all of the different youtube series sm is pushing with nct if they're going to try and push a more variety/social media youtuber image for nct now
>>12742 Nah it's for general public. Teen kpop fans will always have some knowledge of at least big 3 groups so it's no accomplishment being known by a 13 yo
GP recognition will never be on Bigbang SNSD level again, but I think it's still possible to be somewhat recognizable and that should be a goal for kpop groups.
>>12743 But who the fuck was streaming kick it besides the citizens? Tbh I can't remember how that song goes because the Blackpink song comes to mind first.
>>12745 >not sure if it's just artificially inflated by rabid noonafans It's this, it's almost always this for boy groups.
>>12747 Exo, bts and all produce101 groups, except x1 that had the worst ratings and soon disbanded. But they were still way bigger than any rookies that year.
>>12746 it absolutely should be a goal because only pandering to teenage femcels who will stream and hype up anything as long as one of their oppars has a writing or producing credit on it instead of making palatable music is where all the noise is coming from. I blame btshit for starting this horrible uwu self-prod oppars~ meme. put male idols back in the kitchen where they belong.
>>12750 The self-produced thing as a marketing strategy/mediaplay point started with Bigbang/YG. BTShit was just copying that like other groups.
I think gp recognition is especially key for female idols though, because male fans are not loyal as female fand so you can't count on them to make a living for years to come. It's important to stand out and get acting gigs, CFs or debut as a solo artist.
>>12749 SA: thinking about it mamamoo has a somewhat good recognition too and they're very "domestic", no sizeable amount of fans outside korea to support them. Also forgot to mention Twice and BP.
>>12756 Girl groups always had an easier time getting public recognition (while boy groups have stronger fandoms) because a gg pop song can be listened to by normies too and the girls can easily be used for modeling or on tv shows. Close to all somewhat big girl groups are somewhat known while NCT has how many million followers? Yet even young Koreans are likely unable to name a single members (except maybe Scamyong lol). You either need a big achievement (like TVXQ in Japan or BTS in the US) or a hit song like Suju Sorry Sorry, Exo Growl or Bigbang.
>>12748 Kick It appealed to lots of people, not just nctzens, so it got a more views in less time than a most of their other mvs.
Regardless, it did much worse than what someone would expect from a big 3 group that's been active for 4 years, but what can you expect, it's nct after all.
This has been making the rounds on twitter. He's rightfully getting criticized for it but of course the rats are having none of that and pretending he snapped the periodt chile sis camila cabe– I mean mariah carey watch out
The troops will go to hell for letting him and the rest of BTShit's vocal line get the idea that their struggle vocals are good. That's the sound of a man who unironically thinks he can sing very well and can't. Btw he looks like an aged rodent… Is he heading for the wall already? Isn't he only like 22? Wtf
>>12776 holy crap, im convinced the bighit employees secretly hate bts, there is no way the employees watch the video and go "yeah dude youre not going to get clowned for this"
Guys! Remember the girl i told you about dropping hints? These are her latest tweets:
- A third-generation idol may end up in prison! - A Twice member got betrayed by her boyfriend. - While everyone is waiting for that member to leave the group, they will be shocked by the leaving of another member !! Just stay tuned… - You cannot even imagine the amount of scandals and datings that have been silented or postponed throughout the past months, so as soon as one comes out into the open, the rest will follow. - 2021 will be worse in K-Pop than 2019, guys, remember my words well .. - a member of Seventeen and an actress are dating, their relationship began a few months ago. - A member of Bangtan from the Hyungs Line dating a non celebrity. - Dispatch carries in its possession a drug scandal belong to a major company.
>>12767 kek it looks like they used that Korean hairline powder makeup. >>12772 …uh furthermore just WHAT is this song? The barely audible track and his 'vocal runs' (if you can even call them that) sound like a rock ballad from the 80s.
>>12782 I don't think any of these are true (esp if it's that predictions acc) but I like guessing so I will > A Twice member got betrayed by her boyfriend. Probably Jihyo, Daniel was a rumored man whore iirc. > While everyone is waiting for that member to leave the group, they will be shocked by the leaving of another member !! Just stay tuned… Member that people thought would leave could be: Chen, Mina. Shocked by leaving of another member: probably the face or center of these groups. Or someone who has a good image and seems loyal to the group/company. I mostly follow kpop for the drama anyways bc I find it entertaining but I miss the dating scandals. I wish couples (esp idols) got exposed more often bc I find it really interesting to see who is dating who and the petty drama as opposed to ginormous scandals that involve ugly irrelevant yet powerful Korean men. With the dating scandals some of the pairings are legitimately surprising (like IU sleeping with Eunhyuk, girl…) while others aren't but are juicy. Behavior/attitude scandals are always hilarious too, especially when idols are complete assholes to their fans and then get exposed for it.
>>12772 the face hes making is the cherry on top lel his voice really isnt made for runs doesnt matter how strong of a vocalist you are, know your place and skills lol the growls OMFGGGGGG i am truly speechless.
>>12789 oh i mean it could be true (not the pic related) but i doubt the pic related is true lol jk and sehun arent friends, i dont think sehun knows anybody in bts and they dont have the same friends
>>12798 What the fuck happened to him?? Why is his jawline so weak besides being uneven? Is this the result of fillers dissolving? For comparison a (supposedly) untouched photo from about 3 years back.
>>12797 Haechan is such a one trick pony, he always makes the same exact expression and sings in the same super nasally tone. I'm getting real annoyed and tired of him.
>>12800 even here it looks like a chunk of his jaw has been touched up or missing, it just dents inwards at a strange angle
either way the dude is ugly as fuck, with shit skin too yikes. if he wasnt a celebrity no chick would give him the time of day, dude is so unattractive
>>12800 God he looks so disgusting, that greasy mess of a skin, the way his chin juts out further than his nose, how oddly hairy the sides of his cheeks are… There's a good chunk of his jaw missing in this pic too already, now he just overdid it so much that it's no longer even a straight line (or his facial tissue/fat is already sliding down)
I have an attention span of a three year old and often can't watch performances without getting bored, but this is one of the few I genuinely enjoy. It's crazy they were only rookies. Name a gen 4 idol who could do this
>>12811 pre debut Chen @ 7:04 and 2.43 kai outperforming as a 17 y/o lol sm went all out w casting tvxq, exo and h.o.t. all three groups had 100 trainees who were narrowed down
>>12812 we know sm turned the leftover trainees after making tvxq into super junior, nct feels to me like they decided to skip making another 'tvxq' and just throw all their trainees out at once in the suju method
if you were going to make a high-level five-member group out of nct, which members would you pick?
I'd go with mark, taeyong, doyoung, jaehyun (to cover rap, dance, vocals and visual) and idk who to pick for the fifth… kinda want another vocal but I don't know nct all that well tbh
>>12811 piggybacking onto this, im very much a casual exo fan and havent consumed much of their content at all, but i remember watching this and being so impressed
nct flops hard because even their "main vocals" who are supposed to be carrying the entire team are so weak
>>12818 imo having a group of all manlets would be better than having a group with only one tall member
groups hardly ever need to interact these days so you can just lie about their heights and leave people guessing, whereas as soon as you throw an actually tall member in then it becomes obvious the others are short
I'm thinking of getting jaw botox and stuff like this scares me. Yoonas jaw shave is pretty good tbh, she's reaching 30 and still looks good so idk what these younger idols are doing that is botching them so bad.
>>12820 god, that is either unfortunate af eyelid glue/tape, or his surgeon had a couple bottles of soju and a line of coke before he carved into his face
that honestly looks so bad, reminds me of when i used to try to tape my uneven eyelids in middle school and fucked it up super bad
>>12815 No he isn't, no one needs a group with someone that ugly. He's old too. He can be a fucking soloist, he honestly has no business being an idol.
Nctzens are dumb… Boss line is perfect, useless members and all. Only acceptable swap is Winwin for Sungchan and thats it.
I'm not a big fan of this soft, high school aesthetic. Dream has consistently done more and more mature concepts and now they are backtracking. Its not exciting at all.
>>12826 this just looks like a group of high school bros decided to take a couple vintage photos in their mom's basement, i dont like this styling either
i guess it attracts the pedonoonas who want to forget their dreamies are in their twenties now, SM does know their demographic
Xiaojun is among the least twink/manlet looking members even though he is 5’6. It doesn’t matter if he is insufferable behind the scenes because of his introverted personality and he has a decent voice. Also he seems like the least filthy member in wayv.
>>12827 he said his strong point was his height i think hes untalented as fuck hes not even hot like lucas was when he came out plus hes 19 and look haggard without photoshop ffs
>>12827 Sungchan is taller and better looking than winwin who has no use other than raising the height average therefore he is an upgrade no matter what >xiaojun 4'1, can't sing as well as the other boss vocals, zero stage presence, terrible personality, terrible body, wouldn't suit the vibe of the group >yangyang 5'2, weaker visuals than both jungwoo and winwin and bad rapping of all things isn't a worthy trade off, terrible personality, wouldn't suit the vibe of the group
There's more to making a good group than having all """useful""" members, anon. The word of the day is synergy!
>>12834 >reeing about sungchan's ps and then posting this pic Xiaojun's bobble head only looks good from the side, bootleg Yibo is superior no matter how many unflattering pics from that live you post
>>12843 this has to be a troll subtitle right there is no way this dude actually thinks a donut is a sausage
all of bts seems dumb as rocks and RM is just average at best, but when he's shoved in between the rest of the smoothbrain mouthbreathers of course he's gonna look like a genius
>>12846 and people give winwin stans shit for it every day
dont get mad if people take the piss out of you for stanning a useless dude who got introduced two days ago and has zero indication of talent so far lol
>>12851 i think people also forget that these idols all have a middle school education at best, but it is fucking annoying to see them uwu about not knowing shit all the time
>>12845 >>12849 you stan an insecure manlet who will beat his future wife even if that means having to ask her to bend down to be able to reach her face… don't worry about what I'm doing!
I think Xiaojun's face is one of SM's absolute best. His body is another story… I mean he himself has been working out/gaining weight to get out of twinkdom for the past year. He could still stand to gain a good 5 kg. I think his best aesthetic was during debut, his face looked a lot fuller then and he had more natural styling which he looks best at.
The NCT2020 styling with the bleached eyebrows is awful.
>>12862 maybe you've been looking at too many squishy kpop boys because he does look feminine. angular =/= manly. seems super insecure of his masculinity too, he gets unironically angry when his fangirls call him cute or small. he's also been rude as fuck to female staff and says he wants a housewife. I don't trust that mini Elliott Rodger bitch.
>>12860 his dad is baha'i and i as a muslim will say they really do give off cult vibes, theyre a weird almagation of iranian shia islam and Zoroastrianism plus various other oriental religions
Winwin gets roasted on these threads a lot and I can't blame people. It's been four years since debut and he still hasn't shown people his talent/relevancy. Even in WayV he gets overshadowed by those who debuted only in the last year. The dance him and Ten did was one of the first NCT content I saw so I was excited but… he's never done anything cool like this again.
>>12860 his dad is a showbiz dad, isn't he? he reminds me of somi's dad, pushing his kids into show business from the moment they could basically walk and talk
honestly i think its sketchy as hell, you do feel bad for these kids (as much as we rag on them) because they havent known anything else
I hate unwhitewashed pictures and all the international fans who keep harping about them on twitter 24/7 about how their tanned poppas are superior and Koreans are actually all super tan and its colorist blah blah
I equally hate that fucking whitening filter that exists on every single Korean media that makes it look like Korea is the home of the palest Asians so much more superior.
The fighting between these two shit opposing forces is one of the most annoying ass things about kpop.
>>12816 Lol are intl fans gonna start canceling idols for being japanese? As if it wasn’t already hard enough for them to gain favor among korean fans.
Tbh I never liked the whole calling white kids who want to be idols “colonizers” either (despite not even being anglo white myself)
>>12873 Same, honestly I’m glad that a lot of people are pointing this out on different platforms. So many words have lost their original meanings because of the internet.
>>12868 heres the housewife thing https://twitter.com/dailydejun/status/1211965403225710592 I don't know where the staff reciepts are now, I remember seeing an account of it and a video months ago and kfans started making those egg acounts asking him to apologize
He wants a gentle motherly housewife type of chick y'all. First warning sign for xiaojun proven. I've seen one gif of him like playfully pointing a small fan at female staff, but it looked playful not malicious at all.
If there is more tea tho post sis, we don't want to stan the next potential senguri candidate.
>>12888 Imagine female idols said they want a fatherly bf… But of course male idols in 2020 can still go around and say shit like that. Fanservice is so easy, I don't get why they don't just say one of the many things that would make their fans happy?
They have said that lmaooo, Sulli from what I remember clearly stated that as her ideal type, but it seems to be a thing in Korea to want a boyfriend that is "like a father" and people don't bat an eye.
If we’re talking about the Chinese music industry, how much money do kpop idols turned A-list celebs like Jackson make in usd?
Also, I’m not similar with the Chinese music industry but from what I’ve seen it seems like the gp likes entertainers who are connected to their audience and charismatic, so basically the opposite of Wayv. If they were only known in China would they be considered complete flops?
>>12892 that's pretty standard in Asia from what I've seen, a Chinese friend I had on social media once shared a pic that said something like 'if your boyfriend sucks, he'll always make you feel like a man (w/pic of a woman carrying a heavy box while her boyfriend carried something lighter) - if your boyfriend is great, he'll always make you feel like a child (w/pic of a woman getting her shoelaces tied by her boyfriend)'
it really stuck with me as an example of the way women are weirdly encouraged to act childish (which I hate), and it's both considered desirable by men and idealised by women
At times I think ww probably really regrets joining sm and is miserable and other times he gives me taeil and johnny vibes like hes just floating by without much ambition or greed.
>>12894 What you said would at least mean that the guy is treating the girl nicely. Men who say they want a mum/housewife usually want a personal servant.
>>12893 >If we’re talking about the Chinese music industry, how much money do kpop idols turned A-list celebs like Jackson make in usd? According to Jay Park 1000 times as much as in Korea lol
I'm no Asian/Korean culture expert, but form what I've observed it seems to be a positive thing for the guy to "take care" of the girl which includes a lot of things that westerners would deem controlling or really skeevy.
This for example was considered having high manners in Korea. Imagine a western male celebrity putting his jacket over a western female celebrities legs like that, not even asking her or handing her the jacket, but putting it on her just like that. It would be a mess.
>>12874 i hate this too, this obsessive yoyo-ing between "omg oppa so pale" and "omg dont whitewash oppa" gives me whiplash
these fans all fixate on one or the other, its so weird to see them obsess over it especially since these dudes slather on the bb cream anyways on stage and change colors every 3 days
>>12898 Yeah really controlling stuff seems to be the norm or even idealised in Korea
I remember watching a variety show once and they were chatting about relationships/marriage and asked one of the cast (I think it was Lee Sugeun) if his wife had control of his phone and he was like 'no? why would she want to look at somebody else's phone?' and everyone else started making fun of him for it like haha, his wife doesn't invade his privacy, they must not care about each other
coming from a culture where a partner demanding to monitor your phone is seen as abusive behaviour, it was a real culture clash
spoilering because i dont want to subject anyone who doesn't want to see this like i unfortunately did, but apparently yuta has nipple piercings
you would think as conservative as korea is they'd stop putting him in crop tops and open shirts so people cant see his nipple and belly piercings, but i guess this is the only way to get people talking about him kek
>>12893 >entertainers who are connected to their audience and charismatic Xiao Zhan is the emperor of china yet he seems boring and virtually has no connection to his audience whatsoever at this point. But he's super tall and pretty and can sing and does pseudo BL.
The Chinese gp like tall male soloists (and Jackson, whose face, personality, body, and HK shtick make up for his height) and hate groups with the only exception being a few formed on those rigged produce shows.
One Korean variety that will haunt me forever is a show that Jaehyun, Mark and Jooe were on. It was a brother that was ultra controlling towards his sister. Would monitor where she is, who she is with, what she's doing. Also ask her to do weird ass stuff like do aegyo and sit on his lap?? At the end they ask the guests if they think this is a problem that needs to be addressed or not and Mark and Jooe said "no" it shows that he cares. Bruh I fucking died.
Also they always ask male idols who they would introduce their little sisters to if they had to choose and it aways gave me skeevy vibes. Once they asked Taeil and he revealed that his little sister already has a boyfriend and the response from the host was "are you sad?".
>>12903 the thought of sitting on my brother's lap makes me physically cringe, i dont get how people find that cute
i think the most refreshing reactions ive seen about people asking about introducing sisters to groupmates are the idols are the ones where they just flat out say they won't
i think jungwoo did something along those lines of saying like "my sister? to these people" and got clowned for it but seriously, thats a fucking gross question to ask
I was surprised too. Him and Jooe were cringing so bad the entire episode but at the end just switched gears. I'm more surprised at Jooe considering she has an actual older brother and looked horrified when the sister talked about her brother asking her to sit on his lap.
>>12878 I saw some video yesterday where he put one of those mini fan things in a staff members face and it looked like she got startled and walked away. ifans were praising him for it and dragging her/accusing her of being a sasaeng because "he looks like he doesn't like her" it was mind boggling.
I know we mostly post about male idols here and men being gross but I came across a sleazy lady.
There was this one show Lucas was in and one of the female guests born in 1977! was mad checking him out and hitting on him. It was awkward tbh, I always wondered if she chatted him up after the cameras stopped.
>>12911 Lucas is a 21 year old man who solely talks about how he's the most handsome on earth, what else are talk show hosts supposed to say to him other than praising his attractiveness
Reminds me of the Jeno pervy manager rumor. Have no idea what actually happened with this does anyone have updates? Idk if it was just a fansite being psycho and spreading lies or if it had truth. The fansite exposed the managers face and spread the info so she could get sued for defamation.
Rose doesn't look as emaciated as Lisa in that video. Lisa's body frame is a lot bigger and she isn't as petite as Rose yet she weighs 97 lbs and her legs have less meat on them than Rose. Honestly wonder how Lisa does it.
>>12924 i remember reading about this and it was apparently just a shitty rumor made up by a jealous saesang/fansite
the only proof she could come up with were the two pictures you linked of her sharing an umbrella with him, and then "eyewitness accounts" of her supposedly groping him and making him uncomfortable despite him not showing or acting that way at all in the pictures she supplied
who knows, maybe she was right, but fansites are known to spread rumors when they feel jilted so im erring on the side of psycho saesang
>>12924 didn't that whole thing start because fans accused that manager of taking renjun's seat in their van and kicking him out in the rain? and then stans made a huge fuss about it and accused her of a bunch of crazy stuff only for it to turn out he had to go inside and get airpods or something.
>>12920 agreed. she has small body frame that makes her appear smaller than she is and good fat distribution, but she isn’t “that” scary thin if you pay attention female idols aren’t that emanciated or “skeleton looking” anyways, i don’t get all this fake crying for aww poor starving kpop girl idols, imo the bg twinks are way worse
I feel sorry for any woman who works with male idols. Getting treated like shit or even harrassed by those narcs while their insane fans accuse you of being a pedo hag for breathing in the same room as uwu baby oppar
>>12869 his older sister was in a nugu group (i think they disbanded) and his younger sister was rumoured to audition to YG, so clearly a showbiz family
>>12933 >i don’t get all this fake crying for aww poor starving kpop girl idols, imo the bg twinks are way worse That's because you're a bg stan. Fact is that the number of very underweight/ana female idols is multiple times higher than males ones.
>>12938 Some people simply are naturally heavier (likely the reason why she got an ed) doesn't mean that she starved less than the other members, her face definitely looked unhealthy tho
>>12936 i actually stan girl groups ! and excluding those few cases that had to leave because of eds from the 2nd and 3rd gen, your average female idol looks quite normal compared to the gangnam unnies online
>>12944 really? i feel like all their choreos suck, that tiktok just showed me that they only know how to do those big arm waving motions and have zero inspiration in their dances
granted that's a fault/laziness on the part of their choreographer, but it feels any of their songs can match with any of their dances and not feel off
>>12946 no they do all kinda suck, I think the tiktok was just pointing out that similarities between lsg and all their past choreos might have been intentional this time.
Hope it's alright to talk about this here since it's technically no longer kpop but we've talked about China so often already anyway, so dae also find Wang Yibo's success weird?
Most people always say that he shot to fame because of his gay drama but he was actually already getting pushed a ton beforehand. Uniq debuted around the same time as BTS but was a mega flop, when they returned to China they were nobodies. Then 18yo Yibo suddenly get's to be the host of a big talk show. He also get's to act. Why? Doesn't make sense, nobody knew his group. He's everywhere, earning millions per year, meanwhile the other members still had to join Produce in 2019 because him and the company gave no fucks about them. His preferential treatment is the most extreme I've ever seen, Suzy and the rest of Miss A multiplied by a 100. Not only in job opportunities, he somehow also get's away with being rude despite China being so strict and while other celebrities aren't even allowed to drive their own car, he's participating in motorcycle races. And his fans are like the China version of ratmys. One could say that maybe only one member getting pushed is the norm but that's definitely not the case in any other groups of this company. My tinfoil: the owner of Yuehua is a middle-aged woman, it wouldn't be too far-fetched…
>>12949 i dont know or care about him but i do know that his rat fans were so triggered by fanfics of him and his costar on ao3 that they managed to get the site banned in china
Don't know anything to comment about this. All I know is that BL drama was huge even I watched it and ppl didn't shut up about it for months. Had no idea who the dude was before that.
>>12949 There are a lot of cases of this happening in cpop. In insane amount of shilling and payola goes on in c ent, it's just kind of the norm in my eyes.
>>12944 It's a bit disappointing, since their whole thing when they debuted with boombaya was being a gg with "harder" dances. I have to say I like that they sort of ushered in a new group of more girl groups with choreo I like, but blackpink's choreo is quite underwhelming without fancy camera-work.
>>12950 It was the fans of the other dude in their "couple" and it was multiple sites or apps, not just ao3. And as a result he's been jobless for months while yibo is doing better than ever.
>>12954 But how do they choose which member is the one who will be made famous? That's suspicious imo
>>12956 >how will they choose which member gets famous
anon they do this really rare thing called bribing, it happens in the kpop industry too which is also why gen 4 is so floppy, its because half these idols are just rich kids prancing around and have parents who will pay for their kids to be famous
>>12958 (Nta) you can't really get anywhere without rich parents in c ent. In fact celebs who don't come from rich families usually get dragged for being poorfags instead of congratulated for making it without payola as backwards as that is.
>>12901 > they'd stop putting him in crop tops and open shirts He doesn’t even wear crop tops or clothing that shows off his body, which is weird since it’s not even that bad. But for some reason we keep getting taeyong and his skinny prepubescent boy body all over the place lmao. Come to think of it most of the members are more muscular than taeyong; he must have some crazy confidence lol.
TY and Ten are always naked but don't have "abs" like fans claim, they are just skinny men who are a bit fit. I'd love to see Jungwon, Mark or Haechan slut it up for a change.
lmaoo I feel like JW could be sexy af idk why they market him as some cute guy. He needs to gain weight and take his shirt off. I just want to see what do young and haechan have underneath there too.
>>12819 Agreed. One tall member just shows how short everyone else is. >>12920 I think the rest of them got thinner actually. She doesn't look as freakishly underweight compared to the other girls as she did back in 2018. Idk if it's because she's got like a 14 BMI but her head is ginormous in comparison to the rest of her and it bothers me a lot. >>12940 Du-ddu-du-ddu and KTL are on Just Dance and they aren't actually much different from the originals. >>12973 Go away moid.
>>12789 I think i was misunderstood about the screencap. My question about jk and sehun has nothing to do with the tweets of that girl. It is just there were talks and rumors going around on Twitter years ago that jk and sehun had fought about something in 2015 or was it in 2016? And that's why i asked because these 2 are not close and barely interact with each other.
I will never forgive SM for this this reminds me of when I was a kid and used to imitate American artists by making up gibberish stuff that didnt rhyme in an American accent Why did this hurt me How did SM not give Shinee and Exo creative space but they give these clowns a whole playground Why WHYWHYYYYYYY
Where is the Sungchanfag who insisted he was the visual of the century, whole face melting off cant believe hes 19 To add he dances and sounds like a white boy kek SM casting department is failing
>>12984 This gives me Limp Bizkit energy, not in a good way. I liked the concept for the beat but I could not listen to these guys “rapping” continuously for the whole song
>>12991 His face must be truly unfixable, sad. Imagine being Johnny and seeing all the dudes you trained with become as popular as they are I wonder if was ever even a consideration for EXO
>>12990 It's really extraordinary how he's not only untalented, but also actively makes anything he's in worse. Idk why they let a guy with a lisp even open his mouth on a track
>>12990 Somebody needs to come up with a tinfoil theory about him being a drug lord or something like that,,,, it’s so hard to believe that sm has kept this guy since 2007 and all he has done is ?? a podcast
>>12994 i think most people agree that he's in there through a combination of family connections (mom is a broadcast company director), and stupid fans who clamored for him to join a group since the EXO days
thing is, SM threw hansol into the gutter after a while, baffled why they didnt throw johnny out too
>>12997 Why did they throw Hansol out btw ? I don't know anything about him but he's nicer looking than Johnny and apparently more competent too (kpop wiki says Taemin praised his dancing and Jonghyun recommended him to SM) ?
Lmao I honestly really like it. I was expecting something horrific based on your post but the song is fun and different than what other groups are putting out these days. Gave me major late 90's pop/hiphop tracks bestie boys vibes.
Agree that Johnny should have sat this one out. Mark carried, Hendery was good Sungchan was not that bad he has a nice tone. The rest were completely forgettable.
>>13000 i dont think it was terrible, but i find it funny that sungchan seemed more cohesive than fucking johnny who definitely seemed like he was shoved in there to shut up his 3 fucking fans
>>12999 Fans always made jokes about how yuta and hansol were twins because of how similar they looked and how “there could only be one” but seriously sm made a big mistake and threw out the wrong twin.
Rap skills aside, 38 seconds into the MV Johnny's expressions were the most cringe and he continued to be cringe throughout the MV. Sungchan also had awkward moments in the MV but Johnny has no excuse at this point.
I think he's just coasting by in NCT because I don't see any ambition/raw talent from the dude at all, but it's annoying that his coasting by is making NCT music/releases worse. Like, image this song without Johnny… YY could have gotten a longer part and it honestly would have been better. Also tragic that newbies like YY and Hendery were able to sell this concept better and had better presence only two years into their debut versus the 9 years Johnny was doing god knows what.
He should just stick to doing radio and doing the NCT youtube content stuff because his fans seem to like his personality or whatever. He has no business in the music side of things.
When I first got into NCT I literally thought they were one person and I thought Hansol was Yuta's debut stage name and that when fans mentioned Hansol is was just some inside joke about Yuta's first stage name and how he had this fake twin. Then I decided to check out the first reality show they did in Thailand and I realized he was a whole other person….
>>13004 Even when nct were smrookies and all had to practice rapping (vid related is ‘open the door’ with Taeyong, Johnny, Yuta, and Ten) Johnny just sat there repeating a few words in a deep voice. This guy has literally never even tried lmao
>>12997 The only thing Johnny has that made him “hot” was his body, but seems like not even that’s going for him anymore. If he looks this bad in an already retouched pic then all hope is lost, this guy should start roiding like wonho to make up for his awful face.
>>13012 >>13011 >>13004 >>13010 >cringe >90s styling in general is hard to pull off imo but it looks especially bad on him Cringe is the perfect word to describe his entire person, watching him makes me feel embarrassed for his sake. He's only turned 25 this year but seeing him in those outfits, doing what idols do is just so uncomfortable, he's on of those people who always give off boomer 'how do you do fellow kids'-vibes. His entire shtick is being the chill, hot american oppar - problem is that his rodent face isn't hot at all. Being tall isn't a positive thing either if it makes you look like a middle aged dad with his kids, fans will always pick the fun young "kids" over lame "old" you. He honestly would fit more into suju than an into an active young idol group.
>>13014 Samefag but many idols have that issue, usually the "moms" and "dads" of groups. Also especially ratmon just doesn't suit idol styling at all, he just doesn't look idol-like.
>>13013 or literally anyone else, hell even jaemin and his skeletal face would've done fine just because the fujos would have a field day seeing him and jeno together
>>13020 sungchan reminds me of if yuta was mildly attractive, his rap wasnt god awful like the other "rappers" nct has (johnny, jaemin) so we'll have to see
i wonder what shotaro's going to do, the kid already has haters plus he doesnt have a nice face for fangirls to ignore talentless mediocrity
>>13018 Taeyong actually doesn't look that busted here Mark and Hendery would look better with normal hair colors, how did Mark agree to that lol Yangyang looks kinda off? did they do something to his face? Never found Jeno attractive Seungchan literally looks like a toe and Johnny looks as per usual
>>13022 Shotaro is going to be one of nct best dancers he actually has natural rhythm most idol dancers are to stiff despite 1million years of training he is really ugly tho don’t know if it’s gonna save him kfans will still hate him
>>13038 regarding sm's so called ''standards'' didnt they kick out bunch of gorgeous female trainees (for smngg) because they didnt fit the ''groups image'' they even kicked out Lami and this girl
>>13041 this girl looks like she could be shotaro's sister…anons posted some pictures a few thread back of a chinese idol who's under tao's company now and she was actually gorgeous
>>13051 wait is this the same girl? she isnt under SM anymore right, there is no way SM would let her prance around looking like that in korea, holy fuck
>>13065 looks like another showbiz parent pushed child star, is that just the sm standard now, or can they not find anyone and resort to pulling child stars
Wasn't around for 2nd generation but this performance was kinda bomb? They both also look so much better with contemporary looks than those tacky japanese hairstyles there were popular back then
Does anybody know whether it's true that Tao's father is a billionaire? He died a couple weeks ago, meaning a good portion of his wealth would've gone to Tao now.
Start from time stamp 10:12 Her rant about idols needing to stay thin for aesthetic purposes then her ending it with ''we dont diet bc we wanna look pretty'' like yeah right. being an idol has nothing to do with looks lol it fucking bothers me lel no wonder koreans have such a bias against idols, they dont even know what they're profession is about. (before someone gets at me, she said literally in korean ''we stay thin so we look prettier while performing'')
>>13076 i wouldnt say billionaire, but he was very very wealthy and passed away recently
he literally formed an entire entertainment company for tao, i would assume the good majority of his wealth is likely tao's now since he's likely the only child
>RM (in English): Yeah, I admit that I had an interview some time ago where I said that I think it won’t be BTS anymore if we sing in English. I admit it. At that time, that was my real, honest thing. I think I have to now admit that many things have changed: the virus and pandemic, [the fact that] we can’t be on stage and have concerts anymore. Many things have changed, and my thoughts and my mind and myself have also changed, and now we’re giving a little crazy shot called “Dynamite.” That’s all I can say.
Cackling that this smug motherfucker had to address his hypocrisy >When we first listened to the “Dynamite” demo, I actually tried different titles or lyrics in Korean. I tried to write some rap on that track, but nothing worked out really well. So, ok, well, why not keep it this way? Let’s give it a shot! It’s 2020, why not do some crazy things?
He's still lying that he tried to insert Korean in a song that was obviously Grammy and Billboard Hot 100 bait lol Good thing that the songwriter went on record to say that BH specifically asked for English lyrics
>>13079 Nct is far from being at Exo level of popularity so I guess he doesnt have reason to care much about them? He seems pressed with BTS fame tho kek
>>13079 >kek tao probably went to sm expecting to prance around like the nct kids do now playing idol and actually had to work hard and backed out I wouldn't say that, he "endured" being in Exo during their busiest years, I think it should've been obvious that their fame wouldn't last forever. When he left his father was pretty vocal about wanting him out because they weren't treating him right, not sure if this is true or just his dad taking the blame so that his son doesn't get too much hate.
>>13086 its real, he walked around with beat up legs after getting injured for 2 years straight over and over again and photos went viral in chinese socials so his dad was adamant he left
>>13079 i remember reading a post from a tao fan saying how tao's dad hid his wealth from him so he could grow up without being privileged and eventually revealed it to him once he got older, don't know if it was true. but when he decided to leave SM, he pretty much pushed his dad to front to get him handle everything and hid behind him. >>13087 i remember this. not going to lie they treated tao like shit >>13089 >I wonder if it was the same for the other members too or only because his role was being the kung fu guy luhan was nearly on the verge of death at his last concert before he left sm, he was sick had edema and constant headaches and constantly collapsed and fainted from exhaustion. kris apparently had a heart condition or some shit but i honestly just think he made it all up so he didn't have to participate in exoplanet and he could finally become an actor in china
does anyone else find it funny how i-fans will complain about k-netz pressuring idols to be skinny and call koreans fatphobic but at the same time will be praising idols for having prominent collarbones. it’s so hypocritical
she's saying how they stay thin to wear a broader spectrum of clothes and not for being pretty, so is she saying heavier people don't look nice in different kinds of clothes?? What is this bs, they must know dieting is to look pretty and are just lying for the cameras
>>13094 she shot herself in the foot with that contradicting statement most classical dancers stay skinny (ballet dancers) in order for their moves to be lighter and easier and more visible since theyre so detailed and most contemporary dancers stay fit and have more body mass because their dances require core muscles and continuous maintenance
idols stay skinny because thats their job, to follow beauty standards, their whole look is the main reason as to why idols exist, she shouldve just stayed real instead of making stupid statements like that which proves again that idols main reason is to stay skinny to look good not to become better dancers or singers lel
the way shes mouthbreathing at this choreo like its hard shows idols shouldnt diet for vain reasons lol, why dont they exercise i dont get it. its a better way to maintain a weight and still perform well without looking like you're gonna faint
>>13099 True but when she implied heavier people don't look nice in different clothing, she's also implying they diet to look pretty, even though she denies in the beginning. Do they hear themselves speak? How did this make the edit
>>13102 didnt even watch it but hypocritical idols doing lip service shouldnt be something weird and foreign to you, do you think these fucks actually believe half the shit they spout
>>13097 Meh it's not like Ryujin seems to be on a super strict diet anyway. She always struck me as a "heavier" idol. She's not fat by any stretch of the imagination but she just looks bulky.
>>13115 Please love yourself. You wouldn't pretend Johnny is attractive, so why are you pretending a man who's even uglier than he is is? Shitaro apologists MUST be weebs, there's no other explanation.
Not to be a bitch but I legit wonder if some of u are actually on the spectrum and don't understand how human attraction works. It's not like we women look at a man's facial features, measure to see how close to the golden ratio he can get and then decided with pure logic if he is attractive or not.
That is measuring someones beauty, and yes I get it Shotaro is not beautiful.
Like Johnny has a hot body and is tall, even with his face he could have been salvageable. The fact that he's talentless and poor and in nct and has little career prospects in life makes him gross and dries my pussy out. Shotaro smiles, is new, is cute, hasn't disappointed anyone yet, and from the looks of it is an incredible dancer. It makes sense that people would get excited about him and give him a chance.
There are idols out there that are completely unsalvageable tho.
>>13107 As much as I hate Stray Kids and their fanbase, God's Menu bangs like a motherfucker and has a great MV. Saying this overproduced garbage is better than GM means you have shit taste.
>>13120 I always thought Stray Kids were like the poor man's NCT but honestly? God's Menu is so good that it made me check out their discography and they have a couple catchy songs between all the duds.
Heard their rapper is gonna be on SMTM and I'm excited for the meltdowns their fans are gonna have when their oppa gets roasted
>>13123 >I always thought Stray Kids were like the poor man's NCT NCT is already the poor man's NCT. At least make it less obvious that you're a delulu NCTfag
>>13126 Bruh not everyone is crushing on their 'bias' or bias group. I can't stand NCT at all but anon is allowed to like a musician or dancer for their skills–why do you think Taemin has so many fans kek. And why does this even matter? Especially this >>13008. Do you seriously think you're gonna be fucking with one of these kpop boys? The delusion. >>13030 >>13033 If the new dude Shotaro just got a lip lift (and started mewing) I think he'd go from a 2 to a solid 5-6.
>>13140 yeah, i think a little nose scrunch or eyebrow lift is cute once in a while, but she literally just contorts the fuck out of her face and it drives me insane
>>13134 I don't mind the stank faces once in a while but she's been really exaggerating them for the last year or so. If she would keep it to once or twice per song it would be better imo
It's not that bad in the vid you linked tho, I've seen her do worse
I didn't hate them or anything but I used to think Hyuna and Edawn were funny with their druggie shtick
Now I find him kinda attractive and his loyalty to her is endearing ngl. They've been dating for over 4 years which is really good for a 2 idol relationship. Look at all the male idols who backtracked and left it all for the girl to deal with when they were confronted with dating scandals. No other male idol has been as dedicated and carefree as him in the same situation, they're usually pussies
>>13150 Where do I even begin….which look were the stylists trying to achieve? Lucas in that tweed blazer while the rest of them look like wannabe gangsters from the 2000s
>>13193 I'm surprised that I actually loved this, I hope they release an MV as well. It's not the best song ever but it's super catchy & very replayable