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Anonymous 121601[Reply]

Why do people get married only to cheat or divorce? Shouldn't they know if they're happy to be together BEFORE they get married?
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Anonymous 123250

>>123248
And historical marriage was totally all about love and not social mobility…

Anonymous 123252

>>121601
the people who marry are not the people who question things, the people who marry are the ones who blindly do what other people did before them, blindly assuming that the people before had valid reasons that still make sense to this day. they just do it because they believe in normality and marrying is normal.

the more i question the more i know this: normal people will suffer, they are unconscious. they don't think things through, they don't keep up with developments in culture, they don't re-evaluate after a change, they don't think for themselves, they want the shortcut so bad that they don't care where the shortcuts leads them towards.

if you look hard you can probably find a marriage that works, i haven't seen one that wasn't a good looking but deeply rotten miniature-version of the mindless imperialism that is the root of all evil where either one or both participants in were suffering and just hanging in because they were trying to be a good sport.

Anonymous 123265

>>123264
no one gives a fuck about sane men. marry insane men and get what you want out of them

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should I go back to being a wagie Anonymous 123251[Reply]

I always wanted to be a writer (yeah, I know), but I went into STEM because it seemed the more practical choice. Throughout undergrad, I spent all of my free time writing short stories, random experimental pieces, and fanfiction. Frankly, I took it more seriously than my actual work. Now, due to cognitive dysfunction caused by severe mental illness, I can barely do my real job at all. I'm still able to write, albeit much slower; it's all I've been doing while on medical leave. Now, my leave is about to end. I'm worried that I still won't be able to do my job (I've only just begun to see minor results from treatment), but my main concern is that the extreme stress of my job will keep me from writing (like it did before I went on leave). I hated my job even before I started having health issues, since the work environment is hostile to women and the job itself is at once both stressful and soul-crushingly boring. What should I do? My degree is in mathematics and math is what I'm having the most trouble doing right now, so I don't even know what other job options would be good for me. I was thinking of just going back to being a wagie so I can spend my free time writing. I have no illusions about the likelihood of becoming successful as a writer, but at least I'd be able to do what I enjoy. I am open to other suggestions, though.

Anonymous 123253

for wagies i like the idea of having a van or RV/truck to live in parked right outside the job, that way you don't have horrible traffic to deal with. though might not be for everyone. kind of cool to take slow adventures. if i had known how cool having a van would have been, i would have lived differently, i would have gotten one 10 years earlier.

Anonymous 123259

>>123253
that's a really interesting idea, I'll look into it

Anonymous 123261

I know this isn't what you're asking but I'd love to read something you've written, nona.

Regarding your situation, I wish I could give you directions, but I'm pretty much in the same boat (except my degree is in literature) and my only plan so far is to try to get some disability benefit before I've exhausted what little money I got from my family.



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Anonymous 123234[Reply]

What is the difference between love and mental illness? Because my friends tell me I'm unironically nearing the latter; to keep it short I seemingly can't forget about my high school ex bf for some reason even though I'm nearing 30, we talk on and off very sporadically over text but I'm the one that always starts the conversation and I my friends tell me I'm coming off as almost begging for him to come back with me but he always tells me no, in fact I know very little of him after we turned 20. Yes I have dated other men, yes I know it's pathetic, no he's not manipulative, but every time I keep making this alternate reality in my head about going back in time and having this idealistic life with him; I had this cringe moment with my mom some years ago because he came up in the conversation and I told her I would come back with him if he wanted and she just gave me this look of me being silly lol

Anonymous 123239

i wouldn't view it from the perspective of mental illness but rather from how short life is.

you waste your time trying to be with someone who clearly doesn't want to be with you back and that robs you of precious time that you would be wise to look for someone who likes you back.

being in fantasy about someone becomes a dangerous habit that makes you disregard reality and reality is already under assault culturally anyways so you just accelerate the denial of it with the endless wishing.

if life was endless, sure waste a few years on hoping for someone but in this finite dimension time is so precious.

Anonymous 123247

Go no contact, at least for a while. Life's too short to be stuck on people who don't feel the same way as you. Letting yourself talk to them keeps all those memories fresh; you need a clean break for perspective.

Cautionary tale: I convinced myself I was still in love with my ex for like 5 years. Long story short it ended with him having a meltdown and me feeling like an asshole. Probably would've ended a lot better had we just stopped talking for a while from the start, but it was our first relationship and neither of us knew better.



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Anonymous 123119[Reply]

how do you come to terms with being too ugly to be loved? how do you accept that you're never going to experience the rush of a passionate relationship? how do you accept that no man will ever be able to look you in the eyes and tell you you're beautiful? how do you live with the fact that even if you found someone its better to leave it at that so you don't have children that will suffer just as you have? i feel so stuck and isolated, ive been isolated my entire life. i dont have the social skills neccessary to be a "personality" "as long as youre happy" girl, so even if i could be seen past that it would amount to nothing. there is nothing i could offer someone past the looks i dont have.

oh and before anyone says some "just improooooove" i starved myself and gymratted to the lowest weight ive ever been, to my peak physique, nothing changed. nothing improved. my bones are completely wrong. this is not a problem i can fix and its getting harder and harder to live with. without love there is no future, our purpose is boiled down to reproducing, continuing our bloodline, finding love. its not something i'll ever be able to do. it's over and done.
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Anonymous 123153

>>123149
hob about you just stop dwelling on the negative? you will turn it into a pet emotion if you keep suffering because of it. suffering is optional.

Anonymous 123211

I can relate

Anonymous 123219

I'm in the same boat as you. It sucks. However, what helped for me is focusing on the love I do have- whether that's platonic or familial. Also, fake it til you make it. I know it sounds cheesy but it legit works. My life was going really well when I pretended to be confident. Tho it's a hard skill to keep up.

Anonymous 123220

idk i always just cope

Anonymous 123222

>>123219
>fake it til you make it
>hey kids wanna hear some good advice? just be fake and nobody will be able to tell that you are fake!

what about those who can tell?

>just pretend they can't tell and become even more fake every time someone detects you being fake! just never admit how fake you are.


but doesn't everybody wish for people to be more honest? what about being authentic and unashamed?

>no just be fake instead and insist everything true and genuine is people being crazy.



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Anonymous 122774[Reply]

Disillusioned. Spent a large part of my life being inclusive to people who are "different" because of feeling like an outcast in childhood. Shit just blows up in my face. I don't consider myself GC or anything like that but I am noticing a sickening pattern.

Why is it that nearly every trans woman I've befriended or have to work with has caused absolutely fucking chaos in my life and acted like they were the poor little victim when I called them out on it. I can't talk about this shit anywhere or I'm a bigot apparently.

I remember when I came out as bi to my friends over a decade ago, my family somehow found out, and then it was a total fucking nuclear explosion of issues. I was ostracized in my small town for something I didn't even want to be known publicly. But now it's some bizarre purity test to be some flavor of queer and if I don't mention it I don't deserve respect?… Maybe it's because I'm so past that point, but my orientation is such a small part of my life and has little to do with how I view the substance a person has.

I don't want to dictate how other people live, whatever you want to do go for it. But I've been used, stalked, screamed at, and professionally sabotaged by people like this more often than the rest of the population, totally unprovoked. Ten in a row is insane and a pattern. I rarely get treated this way elsewhere. Even the men I work with are decent and kind in comparison.

My boss will be pretty assertive with anyone except the trans women on our team. I was being creeped on by one of our clients and one of the trans women basically sabotaged my safety. The other sabotaged me at a public event. Boss just shrugs her shoulders when I bring this up and is way too nice to them. Says some shit about second puberty and calls it a day. What's worse is I think her processing is skewed because she has a trans daughter that's financially and emotionally abusive to her. She is an elderly disabled woman, and I feel like they're only getting away with this because she's walking on eggshells. It hurts to watch because I'm also disabled and was abused by my family for it. But her daughter just gets away with it because “she's going thru a hard time.” That's not love.

Weren't we still expected to have accountability while we were going thru puberty?? I'm so sick of this bs without being able to talk about it.

What do I even do? Who do I even talk to?…
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Anonymous 122814

>>122813

I'm forced to work and perform with them until I can find a better job. I don't really have a choice. I told one of them to stop interacting with me unless it's work related and they pitched a fit with management despite them causing the hostile work environment. All I can do is bitch and moan at home in the meantime.

Anonymous 122837

>>122774
Sounds like you just need to associate with better people, trannies or otherwise. Make better friends and find a better job. Obviously easier said than done, but that's your only way out.
>>122779
You answered your own question.

Anonymous 122873

>>122837

I get the sentiment. But I've associated with all kinds. I think it's just difficult to pick my way thru to find the type of woman that would be around here but in person. I also live in a city that's well known for catering to this crybully bs. Maybe I need to move to the woods and give up on friendships.

Anonymous 123162

>>122873
I suspect you're looking for the wrong thing. I'd certainly not want to associate with the usual types of people who are "around" CC.
If you want to be a recluse, your best option is to remain in a major city. Rural life basically demands that you participate in society, whereas cities allow you to be a lonely hermit.

Anonymous 123164

>>123162

Its not about the city in general. It's about the city in particular. It's basically the trans capital of the US. It's like an echo chamber bleeding into reality.



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Anonymous 123083

This is so pathetic, but whenever my mom plays loud music, I get involuntary flight/fight responses in my body, or the corner of my mouth will turn down as if Im going to cry, and I get very depressed despite trying not to be.

As a child, whether at home or sitting in the backseat of the car on the way to somewhere, mom would play her music super loud, esp if her and dad were shouting/fighting, so my mind connects domestic violence with her music. I had no choice, I HAD to listen to it. Over and over again.

There was a time, mom and her fave male offspring played this newly released moid bands album very loudly, despite me repeatedly telling them it hurt my ears. That was my only way to go out anywhere apart from school, and home was depressing, so I had no choice. My "no" was never respected. Mom pretended to turn the dial down, but the screen showed the volume was unchanged. She laughed off my concerns, and told me I dont know what real abuse was. Another time, I didnt want her playing it loudly inside my room, so in response for daring to set a boundary, she didnt talk to me for 3 days and wouldnt make me or my siblings any food. All that, combined with intense bullying at school, a bad medical issue that ended up needing surgery, and puberty, all made me cry at night for months, wishing I was never born/praying to die.

Moms music is loud angry moid songs, often about violence or misogynistic sexual comments, sometimes depressing or sad songs about death. She explicitly discouraged me from listening to women music artists and is very misogynistic. When I listen to different music I like with headphones, I dont usually get the involuntary fight/flight reactions.

Just recently, I was outside doing yardwork when mom played her shouting moid music out loud for the neighbors to hear, because they woke us up at 7am mowing the lawn. I felt like the neighbors would take out their anger out on me, so I felt uncomfortable and stopped what I was doing, as Im afraid of conflict [I was strangled by a moid classmate when I was around 5]. Then mom went outside, unprompted, bragging to me about how it could have been louder, and laughed that the man next door [he often has loud abusive breakups with women] is going to cry because he turned his music on as a response. Im probably wrong but I feel like she indirectly mocked and bullied me. Mom never does this when her male offspring is outside, as he would be embarrassed, and we cant Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Anonymous 123090

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Anonymous 123107

I'm hungry.

Anonymous 123124

It's almost 4am. I just want to sleep.

Anonymous 123159

>"The truth is, everyone is going to hurt you. You just got to find the ones worth suffering for." - Bob Marley
been thinkeng about this quote.



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Anonymous 123004[Reply]

do any other nonas feel like they’re consistently the most enthusiastic and engaged person in a friendship? I feel like if I just stopped messaging and stopped going out of my way to be a good friend everyone would leave me. sometimes I think I may have bpd, or I’m just crazy. maybe both!
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Anonymous 123037

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coming back to this and I think I need to get evaluated for bpd. I hate my friends but also love them. I wish they just took the time to be my friend. I think the internet has rotted us all because they can just see what I’m up to at all times and choose to not reach out because of it. i feel like I need to scrub all of my social media profiles and just become completely anonymous. it gets to the point sometimes where I want to kill myself just so they feel bad for not reaching out more. I know this is very harmful thinking and not good for anyone but ugh. again, I’m looking into evaluation.

Anonymous 123104

>>123004
You just need to let stuff like this go or you'll end up alone. See the bigger picture.

Anonymous 123106

you're not alone
i had to beg my old best friend of 10 years to have decent conversations with me instead of answering me with a one word reply and she just told me that she's not my boyfriend to talk to me enthusiastically on a daily basis
In my opinion, it's better to not expect too much from people and just treat them the same way they do

Anonymous 123127

>>123037

that's selfish nona
okay so think rationally
let's say HYPOTHETICALLY you off yourself.

What will happen?
FEELINGS ARE REACTIONS
okay let's say they did not care at all. For some reason.

Then why would you do it?

It's stupid. Just live and just move on nona, you surely can be smart.

Do things, move on, like the other nona said.
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Anonymous 123137

>>123106
Fuck that woman.
How will women ever be free, if they can't turn to each other for emotional support?



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Anonymous 122893[Reply]

I was suddenly blocked by a friend a few days ago. A long-ish time ago we had a romantic situation. It wasn't dating. It was mostly just a tiring game of push and pull. We both manipulated and took advantage of each other's emotions. But recently we became friends again. I'm not as bothered as I feel I should be, because I mostly became friends with him again out of guilt. But now I'm honestly a little annoyed and very confused. I showed him some of my writing, and he said it was good, but the next day he had blocked me. I think he may have read some of the main characters thoughts and assumed they were my own, and that I was somehow inadvertently talking about him. He's very full of himself and assumes he knows everything about people like some sort of arm chair therapist, so that wouldn't shock me. Not really looking for advice cause theres nothing i can do lol

Anonymous 122895

>>122893

If he wants to run, let him. You can't do anything about it at this point except invest in yourself. Sometimes this is an opportunity to gain better, kinder circumstances.

Anonymous 122908

You got lucky, a crazy filtered himself

Though this might be a misunderstanding, I got blocked by accident once (though the person in question was old and not great with phones)

Anonymous 122990

>>122893
Planning on publishing ?

Anonymous 123098

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sister being very dumb Anonymous 122857[Reply]

every day i learn more that my younger sister is insane lmao, she constantly exaggerates our home life on reddit and makes it sound like we're being abused by our parents. she almost fell for what was possibly a trafficking scheme related to getting her to run away and STILL hasn't learned her lesson

she's nineteen, by the way. and apparently also thinks she's a trans boy despite being much more feminine than me. i'd fuck up my relationship with her forever if i told our parents but i just want her to not do any stupid shit. it feels like there's nothing i CAN do though, i wouldn't want to be 'unsupportive' since i don't share her delusions
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Anonymous 123091

>>123086
neat post with perspective (esp cults and false imprisonment), even if I disagree with some details

I don't think at this point OP is able to do much convincing towards her sisters trannyism or whatever, but I want to theorize on this a bit anyway.
You can't reason someone out of a problem they did not reason themselves into. Or at least not being aware why that person believes what they want to believe.
In this case, OP's sister believes becoming ftm will give her validation - notice how trannies and allies try to empathize with each other no matter what, something abusive homes never give.
It will also give her a way out from misogyny - same reason girls may become nonbinary. She might not even want to transition for all we know but instead she just likes the fantasy of escaping being looked down upon, forced to live a certain way etc.
Finally her only friends or people she talks to may be trannies or some lgbt thing and that obviously changes how people see the world - in fact if she got chuddy friends she may change her mind.
Basically people become trannies as a solution to emotional problem IMO.

I don't think unnecessarily fear or hate mongering is a good solution because that's just creating another emotional problem, but it may be a good idea towards someone who is already causing her grief like an abusive dad/authority figure or something. That could work well yeah.

Anonymous 123094

wanted to apologize for how i worded the original post, since the more i look at it the more bitchy i realize i sound. i was pissed at the time because i couldn't fathom why someone would voluntarily want to mutilate themselves to be a shitty imitation of a moid, let alone my own sister. i don't hate her, i don't wanna hurt her, i just feel really helpless right now especially since any therapists to go to will probably encourage surgeries.

she says a lot of her friends are he/him's so i'm worried that's part of the problem. like she's already surrounded by cultists so it was only a matter of time before she got sucked in. but it's not like i can tell her 'stop having friends' when she only has online due to our isolation.

i know we should be able to leave, i know that very well but we're so close to having independence anyway. gonna starts on my bachelor's this fall. i don't think it's worth it to try and bail at this stage.

i was born ready to rant about moids and i think i could frame it as woke and stuff so she'll listen. she most likely did not decide she was tif from observing actual men or she'd never make that decisions, it's because she thinks she can be like the anime boys she likes

Anonymous 123095

>>123091
i used to have bad internalized misogyny, and if i were more chronically online at that time i probably would've fallen for the meme too. it's so fucking sad whenever this happens to girls.

need good non-hugbox resources about what ftm 'transitioning' does to your body. not for fearmongering purposes i just need her to know the reality and trannies making twitter threads

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Anonymous 123097

>>123094
It's a very difficult situation to handle OP and you deserve lots of support. It's ok if you were pissed.

Has she talked about wanting to go to a therapist?



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how to be more empathetic? Anonymous 123077[Reply]

i won't say i struggle with empathy, because i can recognize when people are sad and need to be comforted. however, whenever people vent to me, i'm not really sure what to say. if someone told me their grandma died, i would be able to recognize that is bad, and give them a "sorry for your loss", and that's about it. i can't relate to them either, because i didn't really care about any of my grandparents who died.

usually i wouldn't really care, but my girlfriend vents to me, and it makes me feel bad when i can't think of anything appropriate to say.

Anonymous 123078

https://www.reddit.com/r/SuicideWatch/wiki/talking_tips/
this is from a suicide sub, but I think there's good general advice here (with examples)

Anonymous 123079

>>123077
Your dumb ass is confusing empathy with sympathy. Psychopaths are empathetic af, but that doesn't mean they have good intention or that they care.
So now you know, your heart is the size of a pea.

Anonymous 123080

And one more thing. You can't force virtue, you either have it or you don't.

Anonymous 123084

>>123079
calm down

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