/hb/ - Health & Beauty

What's the best time during the day to workout? I usually do it in the morning, but today I did it in the afternoon and I feel different - better, I think? But I see all the fit girlies working out first thing in the morning, and some sources I read said it's best in the morning for burning fat. Does it actually matter?

>>19412
The best time to work out is the time you'll do it. If you're not a morning person, and you keep missing your morning workouts, then any advantage to working out in the morning is negated.
Sleep is important too though. If it disrupts your sleep later, then it's not a good time either.

anyone else here have experience with building chest muscles (as female ofc). i love benching because its just really fun, but as i've been browsing more fitness influencers profiles i want to build visible pec muslces too. is this only possible through getting very low bf%? symmetricstrength.com says my strenght is 'sufficent level' on bench press and incline benchpress.

Does anyone here know a female only forum like this one specifically for female bodybuilders? I have some questions specific to my sex so it'd be a nice resource to have. Doesn't need to have the same board culture but that'd be nice as well.
>>19444
I haven't gotten that far personally, I'm a lifting noob, getting to too low bodyfat% combined with lifting can make you have straight up pecs and no tits. Webmrel.
Which is one of my goals. But I can see why a woman wouldn't want that.

>>19545
>Does anyone here know a female only forum like this one specifically for female bodybuilders?
not what you're looking for but iirc lc has a thread for bodybuilding

I lost 25kg and yeah, everyone is much nicer to me in general. Having people, men in particular, actually smile at me instead of giving a pleasant neutral expression, changed the entire disposition of my days.

I was really fat in high school and had a huge crush on a fat boy because he was the only person who treated me well. A while back I met him and some others from school and I was hoping we'd have this moment where we'd both grown up and form an attraction, but he just gave me the same serene, warm smile I remember and proceeded to treat me the exact same way. Kind of a letdown, but it's nice to know he's just a very warm, nice person.

>>19061
same here, I used to feel so hungry all the time and now I get full so easily. It's actually a little bit frustrating sometimes bc I'll want to eat something yummy but feel stuffed so fast lol
I was also surprised that a lot of the junky stuff I used to eat uncontrollably doesn't really appeal to me anymore; I feel more attracted to healthy stuff and just outright feel disgusted at super processed stuff. And it's easier to just have 1 of a snack without feeling compelled to keep going and have like 5 or 6

>>19091
>someone who used to be "below" them would drop them first
Jealousy and insecurity is a very ugly thing. Glad you don't have those types of "friends" anymore

I have recently lost 9kg over the span of 4 months to go from the higher end of a healthy BMI to the lower end of a healthy BMI for aesthetics purely. Throughout my life, I have never been properly skinny, except when I was a kid. When I was a teenager, I was overweight and at some point border-line obese, but I was able to get back down to a healthy weight by simple lifestyle changes like decreasing portions and cutting out junk a long time ago. However, I was never able to get under 61kg at 164cm unless I was sick. I usually maintained between 61-63.5kg. However, I never like to get above 63.5kg because it is too close to overweight for me.

I was not overweight, technically, but I was not skinny either. I observed the women at my college and wished that I had figures like them. My dream weight since I was 14 has always been 54kg. I spent time, oddly (this sounds disordered as hell), just obsessively calculating the BMIs of random female celebrities, influencers, and models, and I noticed that almost none of them had a BMI of over 22. I also read about the most desirable BMI being 17-20 in men (oddly, I am not too interested in male attention - there is the feeling that I just want to "maximize" my looks for the shits and giggles.) (I know BMI isn't 100% of a perfect indicator of health at times and does not take lean muscle mass into account, but my thought process loves numbers like these to use as a reference and benchmark). This made me realize that the beauty standard is essentially women who are borderline underweight, unfortunately. I also felt bad because I saw people like Billie Eilish being mocked for being "fat" when she had a similar figure to me. I could envision people saying similar things about me.

At some point, I started counting calories, using measuring spoons and cups and whatnot; I set a goal of about 1200 calories daily, but really, I ended up more at 1200-1400 due to inaccuracies. At some point, I bought a food scale, and that was a big game changer. I lost about 7 pounds that month (though, I suspect that a bit of it was water weight.) It required an insane amount of precision, though. When I was overweight years ago, I seriously didn't have to count calories - all I had to do was cut out bullshit and make better choices. But, at a healthy weight, it seriously required all of my effort to ensure that I was at a deficit and still receiving the right amount of nutrients. With my TDEE already being quite low, one Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>19532
>But, I also noticed that weight loss at a healthy weight leads to diminishing returns. It requires a fuckload of effort and insane amount of precision to get right, unless you have a smaller appetite naturally.
This is something I've been accepting myself recently. I only reached a comparable BMI to your goal (I was at 20.5) when my diet was severely restricted because of outside issues. I balanced my nutrients and protein because I have been compulsive about it since I was fat and lifted weights prior to my problems. During this time I was very cold and would feel like fainting at least 3 times a week in the afternoon despite controlling my diet and getting sleep. Similar to you it also became obvious that my body is just wide despite being 168 cm (which I had already seen coming when I was much larger).
I am left with body image issues now that I've regained to 63 kg, but I am far more active again and my body functions well. There was little energy for 2 hour workouts when I was eating two bland meals and broth each day, even if I was closer to the ideal in looks the functionality for me just wasn't there.

This isn't to say small and skinny women are all weak and low energy. Some of us just might genuinely be a bit bigger and require more food. It is sad female beauty standards are less about function than those of men.
Also
>less male attention
Kek yes. I somehow received more when I reached around my current weight and stopped dressing feminine. I also don't seek it from them, it's just funny.

>water, minimum 8-10 cups.
Especially if you're in a winter zone
>Moisturizer!
Whatever works for your skin type, good moisture will make a world of difference. Don't forget about your body too. If you benefit from face oils I recommend more biosimilar fatty oils as I find they just make the face look nicer. Shea butter is a great one. Wheat germ oil too. For hands and feet slather them in petroleum then cover in gloves and socks. They'll look and feel really nice
>Collagen
It might not make the biggest difference in a single month, but it is so good for skin and hair. Make sure to take with vitamin c for better metabolizing
>Multivitamin or green juice
Make sure it's something high in vitamins, the cheap stuff tends to be better as it'll be pure vitamins and no fancy filler. If you're a burger I've heard you can't trust your supplements so a powdered green juice is a good alternative. I suggest a dehydrated veggie powder cause then it contains the fiber. You could mix the collagen with it since it should be high in vit c
>Get good rem cycled sleep
Try and get a consistent sleep routine going but at the very least get your ~5 rem cycles. You can find apps that calculate your wake up alarm. It makes a huge difference to not wake up that 10 minutes early disrupting your final rhythm. Your eyes will look so much better and your overall face will look less tight
>Exercise
Getting blood pumping is important across the body
>Massage
Doesn't have to be too fancy across the body but lightly and vigorously rub your finger tips into your scalp daily and rub your body for around 10 minutes. More blood flow benefits. If you want you can do a simple lymphatic massage to potentially give extra boost. No idea if that'll make any extra benefit, started lymphatic face massages only recently myself but hey, worst case it's still rubbing the skin

>>839
I'm ugly because my discoloration lol and fucked up skin/acne/dark circles so makeup makes me go from a mannish ghoul to a average person :)))))) Im the only person in my family with bad skin! Yay for genes :D

Tbh I think that as long as the person doesn't have a fat face/double chin that engulfs their neck I think anyone could be beautiful if they use their make up the right way, kinda like that one girl on YouTube who's eyes are really far apart(I don't remeber their name but she's pretty popular) and even though her facial feature is odd and not the standard for pretty the way she applies her makeup makes her look so beautiful imo.

Obviously some will have to work harder with finding a unique style to accentuate the more desirable parts of their face but overall I think anyone can achieve a beautiful look through makeup. It's a shame guys can't wear it as a norm since so many would look so much better

Depends on a lot of things but I think people go about it the wrong way a lot.
First of all, it's not 2 boxes labelled 'hot' and 'not' like some seem to think, it's a bell curve and most people are more or less average compared to others. It also depends on what someone finds attractive and in some part also what people are being told to like. My bf thinks small rosebud lips are better than big full lips but that's certainly not the popular opinion today, and for whatever reason a lot of guys who used to think otherwise 5 years ago now think big instagram lips are beautiful because they've been told they're supposed to find it beautiful so many times.
Second, a lot of people think you're supposed to have [these] features to be considered beautiful and, while that's partially true in some capacity, there's many different kinds of pretty and sticking someone else's lips on your face and getting surgery to have someone else's nose might actually make you look worse. So it's actually really hard to say which one girl is more beautiful than another since there's so many different kinds of faces with their own special appeal, we can only just say what we ourselves find beautiful. I think Saoirse Ronan is beautiful just the same as Janelle Monae even though they look worlds apart.
Keeping all that in mind, if you learn how to apply makeup through YouTube by watching someone who looks nothing like you, don't be surprised if you still look like painted shit. So makeup can help, but only if you know what you're doing. There's very few people who are completely helpless.

>>839
Make-up if used correctly can make a girl look more beautiful. It's not the end-all be-all though.

If this girl lost weight, wore contacts, and let her hair down rather than pulling it back she could be rather attractive. She is blonde and blue eyed after all, and her bone structure will be more defined if she gets thin.

>>843
Based on his bodybuilding.com forum posts, Zyzz took testosterone and tren acetate mainly. Those have very powerful androgenic effects and it's well-known in the bodybuilding community that taking androgenic steroids for several years will cause a significant increase in your skeletal volume and overall bone mass. Zyzz' face became robust, sharp, and caveman-like because his test levels were superhuman.

Soap nuts are the best for body and hair wash. Hair especially, if you have curly hair I highly recommend it. I've seen them being sold now around north america (as laundry detergent sometimes) but the best place to find is a middle eastern or Indian/pakistani store when it comes to price unless you have a local health store selling large amounts for cleaning.
>Place 3-4 of them (more = more bubbles) in around 1L/4cups water in a pot
>Boil 1-2 minutes until it's almost syrupy and then let cool
>Strain and place in a bottle
>Dry and keep the nuts as they can be reused multiple times.
Make sure to massage your scalp well in warm water before to help lift the oils and dirts then pour onto your scalp and massage well before rinsing. 2 applications may be needed if you live in a polluted city. Buy new nuts once they stop making bubbly water which depends on the quality of the nuts.

>>18926

>wtf is going on in that image??

dunno, i just found it online

>>357
she looks like a big mouth character

>>18923
I didn't watch makeup youtubers pretty much all throughout corona and then I randomly decided to watch some again and it blew my mind how god damn FILTERED their faces are and how I didn't notice that when I still regularly watched makeup vids. It's actually crazy.

>>18926
>>18927
In like 2016 people would do their brows like that, and then fill in the middle with concealer at the end. Or sometimes they wouldn't fill in

I used covergirl CG smoothers bb cream and maybelline fitme concealer if i have small blemishes. If youre worried about pores a pore filling primer can help before you put on bb cream, or a setting powder meant to blur pores.

I guarantee that if you eat calorie dense foods consistently like croissants, hamburgers, pizza, ice creams, and sugary drinks you will gain weight even if very skinny

>>19409
Yeah but the problem is actually getting those down

agree with >>19293

theres these boost high calorie drinks you can get on amazon. a case of them is a little expensive but you get like a months worth of them, and theyre 530 calories for only like 8 ounces of liquid. theyre a little mid tasting in that its just a lot of nutrients packed into a tiny ass drink, and they have to make it Not taste like ass, so in my opinion the chocolate one is the most tolerable. but you can chug one pretty fast, and they helped me.

also, if youre open to it, smoke weed. it will make youre stomach feel like a black hole, able to suck anything in without a feeling of fullness. but if its not up your ally, just slowly stretch your stomach out over time with more foods and liquids, eventually youll feel really hungry three times a day, and even have room for in between snacks, which will put on pounds

>>19484
These nutrition shakes are a scam. Just get a blender and blend milk, banana, protein powder, and peanut butter.

>>19382
Yep this is the way. Having more muscle mass increases your basal medabolic rate so you can eat normal amounts and have your body actually utilize the energy instead of just storing it as fat. Pick up a copy of starting strength and study it so you can learn to lift without getting hurt.

I'm about to answer op and im probably going to be dogged on for my answer
I underwent a total simple mastectomy for both of my breast about three years ago.

>How has having small breasts affected your body image and confidence?
All that really changed in my life is not wearing bras anymore, not even sports bras.

>Do you believe breast augmentation is alright?
My surgery was in effort to prevent a future of issues with my lymph nodes and possible necrosis in my breast tissue due to an abnormality. Doctors haven't said what the abnormality is, but it summed up to "Your breast will actually calcify and act like an invader" which yknow, can be an issue down the line. So they chopped them both off.
From a medical standpoint, breast augmentation is fine, preferable even when your tits will cause problems later down the line.
But plastic surgery is retarded.

>Do you prefer going braless?
Literally don't need a bra ever.

>Do you care about having cleavage or not?
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>>19360
what size were you before? what was healing like? did they remove the lymph nodes completely - and if so do you get sick more/have less immunity ?

>>19362
A little bit over a 4” difference for a D cup, so sorta a d-cup. 30D is the last pair i bought a couple years back, and i might have it sitting somewhere in a drawer.

For the healing process, this was a time where I was practically living in the hospital. I had lung surgery frequently, and so recovery was long and extended. Only until 2021 have I really been in full recovery since my lung transplant.
But recovery and healing from the mastectomy almost went unnoticed in comparison to much worse medical issues.
For the immunity part, with a total simple mastectomy they simply remove breast tissue and the surrounding outside skin, making sure to leave the lymph nodes intact. If i remember right, they didn’t remove either of the nodes.

In my very unprofessional opinion, they simply removed my breast out of frustration with dealing with them for my surgeries, but the medical anomaly could have been fully real. But to me, they simply chopped me however they liked under the knife.

I love my small breasts and I hope they never get bigger. Sucks that so many buy into the moid propaganda and feel bad about it for no reason.

nonas my breasts are a joke. i have A-AA cups despite being on the cusp of normal and overweight bmi. my breasts have a horribly ugly shape. they are flat on top and dont have my fat on the underside either, all the fat seems to be on the side of them, yet i have no cleavage. the worst part about them is the nipples. my areolas are puffy and stick out when my nipples arent hard, and theyre also fucking huge compared to the rest of the breast.

theyre ugly in crop tops if its a tight one and i have no bra, cuz theyll look like waffle cones from the side, and theyre ugly with no shirt on, because i have a horrible shape and theyre small for my body.

the ONLY time they look semi presentable is when im cold, and the all the skin on my breast tightens. they look rounder and the areola shrinks SIGNIFICANTLY like to a normal size, but then my tits go back to the same relaxed fugly shape. im doomed

I'm not a titcow tier maybe not big enough to post idk.
>Do you like having big breasts?
Yes and no. I think big breasts contributed to my scoliosis, back pain, and asymmetrical body but it's not as bad as it sounds as they are not massive like some anons ITT. I also look stupid because of how top heavy I am because of my breasts, I would honestly look much better flat. I also am not looking forward to dealing with sagging tits in the future. However, I also like squishing and playing with my boobs because they are fun and soft, boobs can be fun to have so I have come to like them now.
>Would your change your breast size? Have you ever considered surgery?
Now no, but I used to when I was a young teenager for a short period of time.
>How has it affected you growing up? Any bad experiences with moids? Any nastiness from other girls?
From when I was 11-17 years old I would wear sports bras almost exclusively so they were flatter and wouldn't move freely like with a regular bra. I also wore oversized shirts and sweaters, or jackets to further obfuscate them and I was a hunchback too. I have been stared at before. There was one time when I was 13 I was felt up by a little kid as he shouted "MELONS!" when he groped me and whenever I remember that I laugh because it was so random it was silly to me be but he definitely needed to be wrangled by his mother to prevent future pervy antics.
>Has anyone ever made assumptions about your personality/character/libido because of your breasts?
I don't think so?
>Do you consider any types of clothing a no-no because of your breasts?
I don't know what fashion style it's called but I think some skirts and dresses with straps and suspenders, like high waist suspender skirts I can't wear I've tried one of those before and my boobs wouldn't let me. I also hate wearing tight long dresses because I hate the body shape it accentuates as my boobs makes me look fat.
>Any favourite bra brands or types?
I like Asian brands. Idk what type they are or called but they're all the same for the most part. I've worn a few western brands before but I really didn't like them because they weren't comfortable for me but Asian bras are more comfortable for me, fit my breast shape well, and provide more support for them andPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>Do you like having big breasts?
Overall, yeah. I personally like the way they look in form fitting clothing. I can't go braless though
>Would you change your breast size?
No and no
>How has it affected you growing up?
I've always worn baggier clothing up until hs and my breasts aren't big enough to be noticed in baggier clothing so no harassment from moids or jealousy from girls
>Clothes that are no-no for me
I'm at a healthy bmi with a larger bust; generally speaking, a lot of women's tops fit too tight around my breasts
>Any favourite bra brands or types
This is an unpopular opinion for some, but I actually like Victoria's Secret bras
>Any perceived advantages?
If I wanted to, it's easy to get attention from men. My bf likes them. I also like how they look in a bikini

>>14902
>dad called me a whore at 15 for wearing a tanktop
I had a similar experience when I was going through puberty. I was slutshamed into putting a shirt on at a water park by my grown ass dusty brother. These are the same men that don't wash their ass

>Do I like them
I do, I think my body is nicely proportioned.

>Bad experiences
I hit puberty kind of early and once my boobs got bigger I wore a bright purple hoodie every single day for a year while I was at school because I felt like everybody was looking at me. I even had an older female teacher point out my hoodie one day and I never knew why she would do that.

I owned few bras growing up and wore bras I grew out of for way too long because anytime my mother brought me clothes shopping I was too shy to say I needed bras, and I felt bad at how expensive they were. It never even penetrated her brain that I had outgrown the need for a training bra and needed to be taken to the store until I spoke up because the training bras stopped fitting.

The girls never minded me but I was standoffish and didn't engage in much drama. I always thought my sister was jealous but I didn't give a shit if she was.

Some boys of certain persuasions would try to ask me out because of my boobs but I always turned them down in an absolute manner and they never bothered me more than once. As an adult people don't bother me about them. I just don't wear low cut tops out unless it's really hot. I know men will look and if their mush brains perceive me as inviting it by wearing certain clothes then they'd be more likely to cause trouble. Unfortunate but that certainly won't change.

>Would I change my boobs
I never thought about getting them reduced. Back pain is assuaged by posture and keeping fit. As for augmentation, no. I'm personally against body mods and especially fillers. It's best to accept what you have and work with it. (I know some people have extreme circumstances, they can do what they want to themselves.)

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I used to really dislike it now I feel pretty neutral
Honestly no, I used to seriously consider breast reduction surgery but I decided aggainst it as it would be expensive and the idea of going under the knife scares me
Oh yeah I've always had to deal with moids being disgusting and the occasional but of jealousy from women, you get used to it after a while tho but u remember having big boobs as a young teen and being treated like a sex object by filthy cumbrained moids
Oh yeah loads of people have assumed I sleep around or something just because of my cup size lmao
Tbh I'm very autistic and prefer baggy clothes regardless I try to avoid low cut tops because otherwise a lot of people won't make eye contact
I like Freya and fantasie but tbh I usually stick with sports bras as they comfier
Eh not really, they're fun to stim with I suppose

>Do you like having big breasts?
yes and no. for me the only good part of my body are my breast imo. but they look nice in certain types of clothes, like form fitting. i look terrible and fat in baggy shirts and dresses though.
>Would your change your breast size? Have you ever considered surgery?
i've considered surgery but i wouldn't go through with it bc surgery scares me. but id change my breast size to a c
>How has it affected you growing up? Any bad experiences with moids? Any nastiness from other girls?
they developed very quickly. by the time i was 12 i was around a c cup. and yes people stare, its disgusting especially if its from someone you dont like
>Has anyone ever made assumptions about your personality/character/libido because of your breasts?
most people think i'm stupid so i guess yeah
>Do you consider any types of clothing a no-no because of your breasts?
tube tops and strapless bras.
>Any favourite bra brands or types?
victoria's secret push up bras are the best and most comfortable.
>Any perceived advantages?
nope.

Got a nose job last year, been wanting it since i was 12 years old.
> Was it worth it?
Honestly, no. The recovery process was really hard and I recommend you to not get it if you're not %100 percent sure about it.