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too discouraged to go to gym/work out Anonymous 20676[Reply]

can any fit/muscular nonas help me? i am a recovered ED patient but i still struggle with working out.

i really like the idea of becoming stronger. i have tried to strength train in the past, but faced three main mental barriers that always lead to me quitting early.

>1.
first and foremost, i find it extremely discouraging because of how much more easily men build muscle. they barely have to do any work and in the first few months will gain strength extremely fast. the first time i started working out, i would go to the gym with my boyfriend on his membership. he blew past me in terms of progress, improving at roughly double my rate, until i was left in the dust. i got gradually more upset and quit.

some time later, i started to go the gym again. this time alone, so i wouldn't have anyone else to compare myself to. i went to planet fitness, so i used the smith machine for bench, squats, and deadlifts. i also used the bicep curl machine, free-weights, bar for deadhangs and pullups, pulleys, and treadmill. but i stil felt like i was improving extremely slowly. i wasn't noticing any benefits to strength training; everyday objects weren't noticeably easier to move/carry and i was unhappier with myself than before. at that point i felt like the psychic damage and time investment of 3-4 days/week wasn't worth it. some days i could run farther without stopping but that's about it. it gave me the impression that as a small woman, i'm simply not made to get stronger or build muscle. which makes me feel pretty sad and inferior.

>2.
like i said, i have a history of eating disorders and i'm about 90% recovered (back at a healthy bmi for years and don't restrict/binge). but when i am supposed to eat a lot of protein and be in a calorie surplus, it still fucks me up. i feel like i can see my body get bigger and am afraid that i'll never be able to lose that weight during the cut. i don't idealize thinness anymore, and would like my body to look more toned, muscular, and stronger. i would feel more proud of a having strong body vs. having my current average office-worker body for the rest of my life.

>3.
many people say that exercise improves your mood, but when i go to the gym i just end up feeling pretty bad. i dread going, i don't like feeling the physical pain from running/lifting, and i am disappointed with my performanPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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Anonymous 20682

>>20679
female, rin hoshizora

Anonymous 20683

>>20682
I'm disappointed.

Anonymous 20852

>first and foremost, i find it extremely discouraging because of how much more easily men build muscle.

i see you have chosen to compare yourself to others. this is absolute poison and it will ruin any attempt at improving your situation. don't dwell on what you believe is other people having it easy, this will only cripple you. if you have to, try to satisfy your negative habit of comparison with how many reps or minutes YOU did last time.

>i wasn't noticing any benefits to strength training;

i think strength training is stupid in general. if you lift heavy stuff often or pull a plow on the field by hand, you get stronger naturally. strength tries to keep up with how much you demand of yourself in your life.

>everyday objects weren't noticeably easier to move/carry and i was unhappier with myself than before. at that point i felt like the psychic damage and time investment of 3-4 days/week wasn't worth it.

3-4 days/week? that's quite a lot for someone who has not built the habit. way too much. try once a week and ease into it over the time.

>some days i could run farther without stopping but that's about it. it gave me the impression that as a small woman, i'm simply not made to get stronger or build muscle. which makes me feel pretty sad and inferior.

don't feel inferior, this is psychology from the conveyorbelt designed to turn you into a mindless peon, don't agree with it by practicing destructive modes of relation like competition. you are you whether you like it or not so make the best of it. you can absolutely get stronger and more physically able and it is worth it.
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Anonymous 20992

>>20678

lol the men are just crabs in bucket mentality with that shit. Most of them bully each other to steroids. Do not mind them.

Anonymous 20993

1. Men don’t build muscle all that much faster. Most gym newbies will gain no matter what routine they’re doing, provided their diet is formulated towards muscle growth. Most of the time that’s where the issue is. Protein is the most important macro, everything else is secondary. Most women only get about 40 grams of protein a day, aim for 100.

2. You don’t really need to be in a calorie surplus to build muscle. If you’re eating at maintenance and just changing macros, you’ll see recomp.

3. Honestly the best thing you can do for your fitness is finding something you can adhere to and actually enjoy. Like I hate running, so I swim for cardio. I love swimming, so I actually stick to it. It also sounds like you’re doing a ton of stuff you probably don’t need to. Something simple like Starting Strength which could get you in and out in 30 minutes would probably be better than a bunch of random machines and other stuff.


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Anonymous 20846[Reply]

What's the verdict on body modifications?

>Lip fillers
>Cheek injections
>Fake eyelashes
>Fake nails
>Hair bleaching
>Piercings
>Tattoos
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Anonymous 20968

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>>20915
b-but nail art is fun

Anonymous 20969

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As Radfem as I wanted to be, unfortunately, I still want to make some modifications, like some fillers, and probably a nose job. The rest of the items on the list seem like basic things to me, especially tattoos and eyelash and nail extensions, which are heavily overused due to exhaustion.

Anonymous 20972

>>20971
if you do nail art once, the one time you do it it'll be terrible; it takes practice. i just do gel nail art whenever i'm not working and feel like it. i'm addicted to buying cute cheap tiny nail art sparkles and charms off aliexpress. maybe it's vain but it makes me really happy to look at cute art that i've gained mastery over and feel proud showing off

i do think gloves look cool though, just might get weird looks wearing them in the summertime

Anonymous 20977

>Lip fillers
Nope
>Cheek injections
Fuck no
>Fake eyelashes
I don't see the point unless yours got burnt off, but whatever
>Fake nails
Nail art can be pretty. I've painted my nails before and used those fake nail press on things. Only issue was that the fake nails felt a bit clunky and dull on my fingers (and the nail glue was on my nails for a while).
>Hair bleaching
I've heard it can fuck up your hair if overdone, so something I'd beware of. That being said I've thought about dyeing my hair a few times, but ultimately I'll probably just use wigs.
>Piercings
Ear piercings are nice, anywhere else is iffy.
>Tattoos
I can admire the artistry of some tattoos, but I wouldn't want a permanent full sleeve. Been wanting to get a henna kit so I can make temporary designs on my own though.

Anonymous 20985

>Filler can migrate and usually looks good in migration.
> Breast implants seem extremely invasive and dangerous.
>bleached hair looks good if it’s highlights or if you have light hair but want to go bright blonde
>some falsies look really good but often they’re overdone
>nail art can be really lovely but looks inconvenient sometimes


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Anonymous 20359[Reply]

Why are modern beauty/fashion/makeup trends so toxic for women? Especially the obsessed with being skinny
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Anonymous 20367

>>20364
>>boohoo i have to strike a pose for pictures that i earn revenue on
That's not the point at all tho?

Anonymous 20368

Short answer: Because it sells products and services.

>>20364
That picture means to show that most of what you as the consumer of the content sees on social media is fake and doesn't reflect reality.

Anonymous 20923

>>20359
>Why are modern beauty/fashion/makeup trends so toxic for women? Especially the obsessed with being skinny

i don't think it is toxic at all. if you are active instead of sitting on the couch and eat real food that your body is able to digest instead of constipating you then you will be skinny automatically. just do a lot and don't eat the goo, that is all there is to it. tell me how this is toxic.

it is very easy to be skinny. just don't be seduced by the rot. just don't participate in the childish cultural idiocy of eating and drinking for pleasure and short term stimulation.

all this shit is not meant to be eaten by humans:
bread
pasta
pizza
candy
energy drink
coffee
alcohol
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Anonymous 20948

>>20368
>That picture means to show that most of what you as the consumer of the content sees on social media is fake and doesn't reflect reality.
NTA, but feeling argumentative for no particular reason today.
Most of the perception cultivated in any career field is fake. Like teaching, for example. Nobody really thinks the attitudes, opinions, mannerisms exhibited by your teachers were reflective of who they really are or how they live or have lived. There's a cultivated fake "teacher" persona that's considered a crucial part of the job.

There's a thing called "the Influencer Accent" – but that influencer style of speech is practiced by teachers, specifically, in order to retain attention for an hour or more.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0747563224000852

We all know or feel on a deep instinctive level that teachers aren't real people even when we're little kids. What's to be learned from showing that internet phoneys are also not real people, when pretty much everyone already had that much closer and much more intense lesson in public school?

Anonymous 20981

>>20948
>We all know or feel on a deep instinctive level that teachers aren't real people even when we're little kids.
That's just you schizo


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eyebags Anonymous 19349[Reply]

how do you get rid of these?
I've had them for half of my life and barely even notice them. But sometimes when I do I get aware of how creepy I look. My eyebags are basically the biggest ones I've ever seen and even pics on the web don't come close. They are wide and blue with some blue veins being visible on the left and some red veins on the right. It's not actually a bag in that it hangs or is fatty, it's just the color.

Self help sites recommend sleep and low stress but I've had both for at least two years now and it didn't change a bit. Any recommendations please?
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Anonymous 20554

I've also had them my entire life, tried many expensive eye creams, patches, serums. 0 difference. I use a tiny dot of concealer daily, they are still there but not half as bad with a little coverage. If they are genetic there is not much you can do, just something you have to live with.

Anonymous 20596

if u have high cheekbones then the dark circles are caused by the geography of your face, you naturally have less fat under your eyes so the blood shows thru. volufiline can fix this, given that you are a natural responder to it. people have also had luck cutting out sugar, gluten, etc. in our modern day we normalise our consumption levels of these things but really it is too much and has an affect on our bodies. you can also dabble in lymphatic face massage to see if this helps, regular exercise can have similar results. and u can adjust your sleep schedule, everyone is different on what works best for them, eg some people cant get quality sleep if they sleep after 11. as other nonas said, it can also be an allergy, anything from dust to dairy. "genetic" can just mean you have inherited the allergy/issue that can be fixed, not lay down and accept it.

Anonymous 20600

I like my eyebags, I think they're cool.

Anonymous 20609

Try prickly pear oil from Morocco if possible. The vitamin K in it is really good for dark circles

Anonymous 20966

Stop smoking weed


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Short & Tall girls Anonymous 3018[Reply]

Which one are you?
Do you wish you could change your height?
Does it even matter that much when it comes to dating?
And for guys, do you have a preference?

Share, I'm curious.

I'm 155cm tall btw. And yes I do genuinely wish I was taller.
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Anonymous 20884

>>20130
She wrote an entire novel there haha

Anonymous 20889

>>19798
As a fellow Wasian, this humble bragging is in on an entirely different level of cringe, I feel icky reading this

Anonymous 20893

I'm 184cm. Nothing fits and everything sucks. My head clips the top of doorframes if I wear heels.

>Does it even matter that much when it comes to dating?
You just limit your pool of available men to those who have fewer self-esteem/ego problems.

Anonymous 20928

>>20893

>I'm 184cm. Nothing fits and everything sucks.
that's an easy one to deal with, just stop being a passive idiot-consumer and get into doing stuff yourself instead of being seduced by this toxic idea that all problems can be fixed by throwing money at it. you could keep an eye out for fabric that you like, buy one nice pair of sharp fabric scissors, watch a few youtube tutorials and you would already be in business making clothes for yourself, which is a wonderful way to spend an afternoon, way better then jealously looking at others on facebook.

>My head clips the top of doorframes if I wear heels.
because fuck shoes you can walk in, walking is beneath you, you prefer vehicles and you want to be a sexy giraffe all day and make loud noises when your shoe hits the pavement as to announce your presence.

Anonymous 20989

5'11. shit made me anorexic bc at this height im either seen as a supermodel or as an orc depending on my bmi. i only gaf about my appearance bc im stared at a lot by shortfags everywhere i go. moids are intimidated by me except for bisexual napoleon complexes ive encountered. ive struggled a lot to feel feminine, especially when my weight is lower, my dysmorphia tells me i look like a tranny. recently as my prefrontal cortex has been developing ive been a lot less insecure. if nothing else my height is like a filter for insecure moids / a natural social power play


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Childfree thread Anonymous 102[Reply]

Discuss!

>"but Anon, you'll want them later!"
Yeah no.
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Anonymous 20909

>>20908
I have friends who are now spinsters because they did not peak at 30 and got fat instead.

good for you for hanging in there and being charitable to the oinks. i could not hang with my fat friends anymore. everything was about being sick and too tired all the time, about how to be numb and passive, about wishing to do stuff and never doing it, about luxury and entertainment and mindgames and drama. was too much for me. these days i am quite radical about it, i can't even tolerate this attitude of irresponsibility anymore, it corrupts everything.

Anonymous 20912

>>20894
>Autism is caused by various poisons in the food and environment as well as giving babies 30 vaccines by the time they are 2, God fucking damn

God you're retarded.

Anonymous 20913

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>>20912

Anonymous 20919

>>20913
I can't believe this glowie moid shit crossed over from that fucking place. No one wants to admit they have shitty genetics and don't screen for defects and then leave it up to god to sort it out after going to every length to ruin their overall health and fertility. I bet most of these parents don't even breast feed or shook the kid cause it cried and are suprised it won't look at them anymore.

Anonymous 20920

>>20919
>No one wants to admit they have shitty genetics
sometimes i wonder if they believe that technology will save them and 'clean up' their shitty genes and all they are doing is holding out until technology has caught up to the place that they can pretend they have always been very healthy and well-maintained. i had average genes and after many years of living healthy and mindfully i have improved my genes. i guess most people don't know this is possible.

>after going to every length to ruin their overall health and fertility.
i just realized i have never once in my entire life heard anyone discuss the topic of maintaining fertility. while still being downstream from health, it is a topic worth discussing. legend states fruitarian women have very light and easily endurable periods because their overall regeneration is so healthy that there is hardly any blood involved.

>I bet most of these parents don't even breast feed or shook the kid cause it cried and are suprised it won't look at them anymore.
heh 😂 you just described the average parents and the reason most people are so fucked up in a single sentence, i love it.


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What's an indicator that you're attractive? Anonymous 17855[Reply]

For me, it would have to be
>someone paying for your meal/coffee
>strangers smiling at you
>having your first kiss <20 years
How about you?
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Anonymous 19761

>>19759
Kids are not less indoctrinated by society. They have a less nuanced understanding of social rules and roles than adults, but they also have little critical thinking ability to question them.

Anonymous 20619

I’ve been scouted several times by modeling scouts, I guess that means something

Anonymous 20625

>>20619
It means you were almost trafficked lol

Anonymous 20895

>>19626
My manager at my job likes me, and I know this because he's given me little gifts/snacks and he was supposed to give me a write-up more than once before, but he never did. Only reason I'm not repulsed is because he's actually hot…

Anonymous 20897

>>20619
if u grow up near LA this is a rite of passage & it's almost always a scam to get your parents to overpay for some headshots


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Anonymous 20715[Reply]

I’m about to get prescribed meds that’ll decrease my appetite. I’m pretty excited about it. Any tips for foods that I can eat so I don’t pass out from hunger? I barely notice when I’m hungry now, until I start to shake. Just because of the meds I already take
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Anonymous 20878

>>20877
>this would be quite the spectacle for a reality show.

It would, but you're right about them not being able to commit. There are already reality shows about morbidly obese people trying to lose weight, and a lot of the people end up literally dying because they're too fucking obese and can't stick to even the most mild calorie deficit.

Anonymous 20879

>>20878
>and can't stick to even the most mild calorie deficit.

i think the only way for obese people is to introduce the change in steps so small that they go completely under their radar, since they are not all of the sudden going to rediscover willpower, patience and strong nerves.

i've been thinking about this for many years. something like reducing their portions by 1% and enduring the discomfort until they can reduce another 1% looks to me to be the only way to do it.

might be all in vain though since the underlying root cause of their obesity is never addressed, which is irresponsibility: denial, lack of curiosity, identification with illusion, separation of cause and effect

Anonymous 20881

>>20879
I would phrase it instead as introducing things into the diet. E.g. you must eat one whole carrot a day before having junk food. You're not banning something (and thus there's no fomo), but you are making a rule that will
A) Make the bad habit inconvenient
B) Slowly introduce good habits

One of the best ways to "quit" something is to not frame it as quitting. Always try and frame it as a gain and you'll generally do better.

Anonymous 20883

>>20881
NTA but this is how I quit vaping, actually. It also ties into this discussion regarding weight loss: I slowly phased in exercise and over time I didn't want to vape as much because doing so made exercises more difficult after I got the hang of enjoying the movements. I'm no longer overweight.

Anonymous 20886

>>20881
>making a rule

your overall approach would work but getting the person to do it by making a rule; that is you not understanding the depth of the underlying psychological problems responsible for obesity. the whole reason the obese person bends itself into a prezel psychologically (including multiple personality behavior) to do harmful things is to avoid the many disadvantages of a life of rules. rules are not the solution, they are the underlying problem. they may work for you but that is because you have cut off the spontaneous and creative parts of you that the obese person tries to protect from a life of rules. look at the people who do what they do because of rules, not because they understand and agree with something and you will find a host of problems, mostly of the mental health; emotional damage but also physical in terms of cramps, various stiffnesses in all systems of the body, heart issues and a general disconnectedness and difficulty to relate to other members of their species that are not part of their bonded group.


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Suppliment Thread Anonymous 20827[Reply]

I'm getting really into supplements recently and I honestly feel amazing on them.
My current setup is multivitamin + glutathione + NMN, and I'm thinking of adding CoQ10 next. I basically want to repair all my cells and DNA.
Any experience with these or others? Any recommendations?
Let's talk about supplements.

Anonymous 20828

>>20827
>I basically want to repair all my cells and DNA.

how'd they get broken

Anonymous 20841

>>20828
op has cancer I guess

Anonymous 20843

>>20828
People accumulate DNA damage through exposure to UV and oxidants. The body has repair mechanisms for these but it eventually builds up. So I've been boosting the repair pathways and also trying to reduce the damage rate in the first place via antioxidants.

Anonymous 20855

>>20843
>People accumulate DNA damage through exposure to UV and oxidants.

this would sound very nice in a marketing paragraph but i don't have the means to verify this sadly. so i don't know but i would expect this to be bs just from living in a culture of weaponized for-profit health products.

plus fundamentally the human digestion has been learning how to digest alive nutrients since the begining of life and processed food only for a few hundreds or thousands.

your capsules and tinctures are all highly processed dead isolates foreign to the human body and may be hard to digest while potentially doing little to no benefit. since digestion is a process requiring a lot of the body, you might be weakening yourself for little to no benefit, which is the opposite effect of what you are trying to achieve.

unless you are talking about herbal supplements, which i very much respect.

Anonymous 20862

>>20855
Well everything I take is endogenous to the human body or plants (the glutathione comes from white tomatos) so it's not synthetic molecules per se. I do get what youre saying about getting it from foods and stuff rather than pill form, however its not fully practical because of the massive amounts of tomatoes, grapes, etc. you'd have to eat every day to get the effective doses.


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Why am I the only one who notices this? Anonymous 20832[Reply]

I always notice how girls want their eyebrows to be thicker and acting like it's the beauty standard, but if that's the case why do most of the prettier girls (usually asian) have lighter, thinner, almost nonexistent eyebrows? In addition how do i get mine like that? I've already tried waxxing and plucking but when i look at their pictures in comparison their eyebrows are just lighter. Am I supposed to dye them or something? I feel like having light/thin eyebrows is one of the factors you need to be a cute doll-looking girl, along with all that other easy stuff you can just fraud with make-up. I feel like having thick, dark, arched eyebrows just gives a masculine drag queen look that I'm not sure why other women think looks good
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Anonymous 20840

Because beauty is mostly subjective and different countries ahving vastly different and sometimes opposite beauty standards is a concrete proof of that. You just basically said "why do others think it's pretty when i don't?

Anonymous 20842

>>20840
evil gang stalking asshole

flower like faces and curly hair. entangles people in their mess. deserves to get people of their gender attacking them they dont even know

Anonymous 20844

>>20832
>to be a cute doll-looking girl

wow what an effortlessly irresponsible life you must have to worry about unimportant details like how your eyebrows look. i could appreciate you taking the time and energy to look a certain way, but i don't. it is a waste of the short human life to worry about superficiality.

Anonymous 20845

thick eyebrows are ugly and only look good on social media and not irl

Anonymous 20861

>>20832
Fashionable "beauty" is different from true beauty.


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