/b/ - Random

Ummm…. trannies are like…..bad and stuff.

e-girls vs t-girls
who would win?

Ever since cc went down right before the inauguration, these threads have languished. Is anyone gc even left?

>>306737
Correct

Kids today really do think picking a gender is like picking a personality. Wtf does feeling like your gender even mean? I know what it feels like to be me, and thats all. Wtf is this exterior needing to match the interior bullshit? Do they think their body is a social media profile? Am I just autistic or something?

>>306745
The internet and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

In an ideal world troons and other men get together as couples and enjoy their lives with their sick moid fetishes and leave women alone. Sadly troons become more invasive to women than regular men.

>>306766
Growing up I tried to be progressive and chill and accepting of everyone's lifestyle and ideas as long as they were legal and weren't harming anyone, but I never fully could feel comfortable with trans women. They hypersexualize theirselves so much, and the most vocal majority in the internet are always lesbian or want to date lesbian cis women. Why do they always predate on women and invade our spaces? Why do they want to be exactly like us even though they'll never be a biological woman? They're so sexist by default too, and are always boasting about stealing women's partners or being more attractive than us. Yikes.

>>306783
Unironically how I feel exactly too, I was very progressive for such a long time till I interacted with trans "women" myself. It seems most of them have weird perverted ideas of being female and some sort of "better than you" complex because their whole identity is based on a sexual fetish for men. I tolerate and try to be respectful to most people, yet it always seems they have the same moid mindset.

>>306783
no matter how many hormones or body parts they cut off, at the end of the day they are still a moid. A narcissistic moid, at that

>>306783
>>306810
The number 1 reason that progressive women hit peak trans is tims themselves. I had tons of tif friends in highschool so I thought that trans people were just like me. Then I started to meet and interact with male toons. They are literally all the same, even the ones reading this. Degenerates who want to rape women and children and animals, not even corpses are safe. They all act like speds roleplaying as anime girls, because they are. They are also the only ones who I've met irl to call black women mannish and unfeminine. Trannies are extremely hateful towards black women because of their /pol/ background. I think it's interesting how even my tif mutuals online a have started to pick up on it.

>people unironically post this shit and are serious
A woman is an adult human female. No, a man is not a woman just because he says he is.

>>306962
This. I was willing to play along with everyone else until I started interacting with them. Men are men, and a man will still think and act like one even if he calls himself Lily.

Has anyone else noticed an uptick in TIFs whose "gender goals" are essentially those biotrans Kikomi comics? They literally wish that they are men who feminized themselves.

I recall hearing this sentiment every once in a while years ago (one of many things that peaked me), now I am seeing it constantly.

some women hate each other so much they'd rather defend a stick figure with boobs over other women lmao
Makes sense why these types always accept moids in dresses, they just hate real women.

>>306729
Women made by God vs women made by science.

>>307311
Liberal feminism is so ignorant. There are women being assaulted every day and they want to talk about comic characters being hated as if it's on the same level?

All this to exclude TIFs as well. Classic mood behaviour to demand to enter women's spaces,yet also exclude TIFs from their community. It's always TIMs doing this

did you guys see the troon meltdown over neopets adding HP themed customization items? imagine being so pampered that your biggest problem in life is a cartoon animal site adding a skeleton horse, like they're actually hounding the devs and demanding they educate themselves and troonify the site further as proof or their allyship, insane

>>307462
They already have a ton of customizable gender flag items, what next? Surgery scars for your pet?

Jess is looking more and more like an ogre every day, even worse, an ogre living in a Brazilian favela.

http://youtube.com/post/Ugkx2wgjzf9UTg4BRk-_m1R9Q3kHNoTkgj2m?si=POVsk8RkmQa8Giq0

possibly thread related, a relatively new zoomer coworker came out as nonbinary out of the blue today, wrote a long ass post in the work chat how nonbinaries exist yadda yadda, the usual memes. I feel like I have to prepare for constant drama now, am I just paranoid? Anyone else had similar happen?

My ex of 10+ years, who dumped me a month ago, is now posting photos of himself wearing dresses and those freaky anime masks and openly admitting that he's already down the pipeline. All of that despite tending to fall for every retarded right-wing hoax.
I don't even have a suitable reaction image.

>>307555
dodged a bullet

>>307555
I don't love him anymore or anything, but I tried to commit to not looking up his stuff because I know that doing it can drive you insane. But how the fuck am I supposed to look away from a validating dumpster fire like that?

>>307555
How disgusting. But could it be that he's doing this to provoke you? Did he know that you don't like trannies? But maybe this nonsense about being "right-wing" was just to disguise his trannydom?

>>307558
>But could it be that he's doing this to provoke you?
I really doubt he'd embarrass himself like that to get a reaction out of me. He's an idiot, but I can't even begin to comprehend how doing that could work out in his favor, even in his mind. It has to be honest.

>Did he know that you don't like trannies?
He was way more vocal about his hate for trannies compared to me.

>>307559
Is this guy just an exception or are you always attracted to idiots

>>307560
We started dating as teens, and he was pretty normal back then. Even when things got stale and complacent, and he began clearly degrading as a person, he never showed signs of trooning out, other than occasionally asking me to fuck his ass.

>>307559
I think that since most moids are addicted to porn, to a greater or lesser extent, at some point they will start watching tranny porn (if they don't end up feeling interested in illegal content), and end up feeling turned on by the idea of being a troon. But it's a good thing you broke up with him in time, imagine ending up marrying a man who troons out and having to divorce him, especially if there are children involved.

>>307554 Lots of my friends in high school did this. Current friends do this. Worst that’s happened is listening to whining that no one understands them and them trying to pressure me into be nonbinary myself. I do get annoyed when one gets particularly vocal about how she hates that her friend went back to she/her, but it’s whatever. They’re mostly autistic gay girls who don’t fit in and don’t understand why, and one mentally ill gay man. They’re good people (and I may have gotten lucky with some self aware ones— one was complaining about this trans girl and how it’s obvious he was socialized as a male lol so close yet so far!)
I guess the absolute worst part is knowing I can never truly be myself with them. But if it’s a coworker whatever. I try to be empathetic. It’s just sort of sad. Ignore any drama, make knowing eye contact with your other coworkers, and remember empathy. Sorry to be so lenient but I really do believe it’s a phase mentally ill people are going through right now to make sense of their realities. Note: Specifically with young women is where I have this patience.
Not2: Please tell us if there’s any gendie drama lol I’m lowk curious to know what she said in her message to the workchat.

>>307535
>What she wants is another woman
Exactly; I've noticed a lot of these fujos-to-TIFs ending up in T4T relationships with other TIFs and acting as if it was the pinnacle of yaoi.
>>307569
>trying to pressure me into be nonbinary myself.
Ugh, I know how that feels. TIFs have completely swarmed my hobbies and do the same thing to me under the pretense of "you give off such AMAZING queer vibes!" (Read: I am not 100% stereotypically feminine and their insecurities cause them to seethe at anyone who is comfortable with themselves.)
My honest answer every time is to point out that gender stereotypes are ridiculous… which they HAVE to agree to every time, since these are the most over-the-top feminine girls I have ever met in spite of them using every single pronoun (tons of made up ones!) except for "she."
>one was complaining about this trans girl and how it’s obvious he was socialized as a male lol so close yet so far!
This has also happened in these groups! Tons of comments such as "I only feel comfortable around men if they've been socialized as women," immediately followed up by the obligatory "ALL TRANS ARE VALID" disclaimers. So infuriatingly close to getting it…

>>307569
Ad said it's just the usual nonbinary memes how they exist should be respected and so on, she wants to be referred to by her name instead of "she", thankfully we aren't American so made up pronouns aren't a thing here. She seemed completely normal before so I don't know what triggered the post. It's not really a problem when I talk to people face to face anyway because I call them by name or just "you", but I guess I'll just avoid talking about her to others when she's in hearing range incase I forget and call her "she".

Does anyone have tips on how to scare of trannies on reddit without getting banned? I've looked for people to play video games with but it's always 30+ transbians who message me and end up sexually harassing me and I'm really tired of it.

>>307597
Seek gaming friends form countries where being a troon is frowned upon and or can get you killed, like Eastern Europe.

>>307597
Don't let others message you first and be picky about who you talk to (check their posting history and such). Also, importantly, I recommend staying off of reddit for things like making friends.
A great way to filter out trannies (and internet weirdos in general) is to filter by the time you are online (in UTC). Explicitly state that your free time is after sunrise to noon-ish hours of the local time. That way, you interact mostly with other people with healthy sleeping schedules or antipodeans, with occasional night shift workers. Of course, this also requires you to be normal and have a healthy lifestyle.
>>307598
Eastern Europe still has trannies (just like east asia). The difference is that they don't have every type of sexual deviant pretending to be trans for "validation"

This is someone's son transformed by drugs and surgery to be the "perfect bimbo" for men to have sex with.

>anime girl pic
kekek

>>307617
Remember that red carpet photo with Hunter's hexagonal tits? It's so unnerving. Transgenders don't even want to be human but transhuman

Interesting…
"Children’s facial expressions reveal fear response to gender-nonconforming boys, study finds"

'The researchers found a consistent pattern across the diverse sample: when viewing the gender-nonconforming boy, children showed more fear-related facial expressions than when viewing the gender-conforming boy. This difference was statistically significant, although small in size. No such differences were found when comparing reactions to the gender-conforming and gender-nonconforming girls. The increase in fearful expression was specific to the gender-nonconforming boy, suggesting that children’s emotional reactions are especially sensitive to violations of traditional masculinity.'

https://www.psypost.org/childrens-facial-expressions-reveal-fear-response-to-gender-nonconforming-boys-study-finds/

>>307633
Lol imagine the only way of forming a connection with anyone is through your ass or your crotch

After an hour or so of sex what do you even do or talk about, celebrity drama, the weather

Why are they so delusional about replacing women? Is it just narcissism?

>>307637
because theyre insecure that theyre worse than us in every metric which they know deep down as well as every other person on earth. hence why theyre suicidal and why most men wont date them

>>307643
>theyre insecure that theyre worse than us in every metric which they know deep down
because theyre trannies or because theyre male?

>>307617
I have a bio female coworker that actually looks alot like this this is scary

>>307632
>"The Transgender Women's Internet Survey and Testing (TWIST) study is an annual, cross-sectional online HIV behavioral survey of transgender women and transfeminine non-binary people assigned male at birth in the United States. The study also includes an optional mail-in self-testing kit for HIV/STIs, hepatitis C, and hormone levels."
KEK.

>>307659
please bring back asylums

s, the TIFs are at it again and they're trying to groom this one girl in my friendgroup. How do I subtly push her away from this? It's tempting to go fully mask off TERF, but that can very easily be turned against me and my message. I would like to approach more carefully, use their own rules against them (apparently most of those TIFs ages been talking to are of the "I love my boobs, curves, and wearing dresses, BUT don't she/her me EVER" variety. I believe this can be used advantageously.)

>>307673
Tell her the hormones will give her cancer…theres research papers on that I think

>>306729
Ovarit is gone, and every social media site heavily bans anything even vaguely approaching GC/2nd wave feminism, while completely allowing MRA/MGTOW/TERM stuff and mild Nazi stuff.
Women having an opinion about women’s sports is considered more dangerous than “gas the Jews” or “women should literally be in chattel slavery”.

>>306745
As gross and unlikable as tranny scrotes are, I cannot help but really feel sick to my stomach watching young girls abuse testosterone just because they don't fit in with societal expectations of what a woman should be. It's genuinely horrifying that they're given controlled substances just for being neurodivergent women.

>>307692
The sports will let trannies take hormones and play against women yet still become easy when a woman naturally has higher levels of testosterone or some other genuine birth defect. They let some crossdressing weirdos play against women but apparently intersex women are a step too far still.

>>306729
There's a plague of autistic troons. Autistic people with dysmorphia and depersonalization who promote being a troon as a safe and "only way" to become "their true selves" are a danger. Those subs are full of minors, and there's always a deranged adult forcing their trans shit on them.

you can always spot a tranny when they are sex obsessed, strongly advocate fanservice in anime, into incest/selfcest/beastiality/rape, in a poly relationship, do noise music(a shame), have a touhou pfp, complain about women while simultaneously wanting to be one, bitch about estrogen yet still takes it, overly feminine to the point its a caricature… why do trannies never think for themselves yet spread ideologies more than i see right wingers do?? can they just kill themselves? at least that way they might reincarnate into an actual woman

>>307634
My uninformed guess is that children are more in tune with species knowledge such as a) deviant males are unstable and unsafe and b) someone masquerading as trusted mama or trusted mama-like people (females) is doing deceit and should be treated with suspicion

>>307659
This woman clearly has a couple of things wrong with her and I bet she was traumatised by her ex-patriarch but instead of helping her, they had her fuck herself up irreversibly with testosterone.

Now she's still mentally unwell but with quickly accumulating organ damage

>>307637
This troon probably hasn't read any serious articles about it, this just shows how most moids are completely ignorant about how the female body works, and they go around the internet talking shit about what they don't know.

>>307693
this, it's so heartbreaking

>>307637
About 10 years ago I joked about the idea of brain transplants getting hijacked by trannies wanting a real female body (as opposed to brain transplants being a groundbreaking procedure for disabled people with otherwise functioning brains). If brain transplants ever become feasible, I know they will hijack it.

>>306729
>>307708
Yep some young MTFs were just autistic/gay/shy guys who were groomed into thinking their quirks made them not male. Unfortunately, after some time they go from victims to perpetrators as they start spreading that idea, and converting the next generation.

Lol am I the only one who thinks a lot of this trannyism is just a phase (specifically for young women). Like a lot of gay autistic girls feel alienated so they turn to something with a built-in community that celebrates that alienation. It's like being emo all over again. Some of them are legit trannies with dysphoria (not a popular opinion here but it is real. doesnt mean they SHOULD transition. and most dont have it lol), but most are just depressed, lonely, and used to a culture with instant gratification. Itll fade away, with some long term health consequences for more than a few, but they wont be politically profitable in a decade and as such forgotten. What do you nonas think?

picrel, me and you watching this all pass by.

>>307943
Do you really think It will go away? I just see more people identifying as trans everyday

>>307966

i don't even think that's actually a troon, that's just a regular femcel who thinks this conflict theater is cool who gets moist for guys who shotgun a bottle of beer and then throw it on the dancefloor so that the glass shatters everywhere.

>>307966
waoh so cool

>>306745
>picking a personality
Can you? Changing oneself requires hard and dedicated work.

>>306962
>tism
Autism?

>tif
What's that?

And regarding the narcissism it's seems to be true in one case I've encountered. And not only that, an authoritarian and humourless mindset seems to be part of the package deal in this case. Also an appearent lack of self-introspection.

And no, trans this-or-that was never the issue. Not even politics.

>>307637
>womb transplant
It will never reach economy of scale and leave the experimental stage. Literal scratch-built clone tanks will be much more feasible.

>>307967
>shotgun
>bottle
KEK!
https://www.wikihow.com/Shotgun-a-Beer

>>308025
i didn't know about this. i thought shotgun meant just drinking as fast as possible without breathing. i don't drink, drinking makes you dumb, ugly, sick and sad.

>>307937
you know ratlimit is a tim right

sucking up to men who hate women because those men happened to hop onboard the tranny hate train, not even once.

>>308304
Yea i cant fathom supporting men who want to take away abortion rights just because they dont want to let some scrotes castrate themselves

>>308306
>take away abortion rights

i would have thought abortion would have led to less assholes being born. how come there aren't less assholes by now.

>>307659
>he underestimated queer trans power that is of an unbreakable spirit
the unbreakable spirit in question being the one that makes 41% of them kill themselves
>>307967
shes definitely a DID larper

Multiple people in this thread have also talked about being harassed or assaulted by a troon. Some women are so afraid of being ostracized for wrongthink that acknowledging reality despite literally having been raped is out of the question. Notice how she had to address the fact that she isn't transphobic and that others (presumably troons) attacked her for speaking up and her still referring to this rapist scrote as a "trans woman" lmao. This is just bleak

saw a 60 year old man with a dad bod and a shirt with "protect trans kids" on it while at a trader joes last week. i really hope he doesn't have a wife and kids because jfc.

I hope despite how much Reddit keeps insisting Hunter Schafer should be Zelda, that he will never be Zelda

>>308446
“My gender was so influenced by a need to be used by men. My sexual orientation was not gay, it was not straight,it was an attraction,is an attraction,always to misogyny.Not feeling femme enough w/o being a victim of rape.The idea of being eaten used to arouse me.” Hunter Schafer

I hope this shit gets memed all over so people never suggest Hunter Schafer should be Zelda ever again

>>308446
>My gender was so influenced by a need to be used by MEN
couldn't have put it better AHAHAHAHAHA

So my impression is gender dysphoria really is one's inferiority complex by assuming the "role" of someone inferior. (or in the case of FTM it's someone trying to run away from misogyny)

Couple that with constant cult-level unconditional validation and you reel in a lot of mentally ill people who have no other means to get it.

I am willing to accept people's "transness" and get along, but not act like they are literally the gender they pretend to be JUST because they want to and you're a "bad person" if you don't.

Why do they want it? Because of the mysterious "gender dysphoria" and nobody questions what it really is like nobody is allowed to question thetans in a Scientology church.

>>308449
I have two beliefs about gender dysphoria. One, I believe the majority of it to be entirely sociogenic or fetishistic. What I mean by this is that I think many people who are vulnerable, marginalized, and socially-isolated are easily swept up by existing transexual communities and are encouraged - both passively and actively - into believing they are of the opposite sex. In the case of fetishism, I think a majority of the "transitioned later in life" men are simply autogynephilic though as we all know younger men can become autogynephilic gooners as well. I believe there is a similarity between the rise in cases of dissociative identity disorder and the rise in gender dysphoria once both conditions became mainstream and more widely shown in fiction/media. However, I will caveat that by admitting that other conditions which have seen a rise in diagnosis were due to better techniques for identifying the illness and more awareness of its existence.
Second, I think a small minority of gender dysphoria is of a legitimate character in the same way as body dysmorphia, anorexia, OCD, and other disorders with a weak psychotic aspect that does not turn into a full-blown psychotic break with reality like schizophrenia. While I think that a minority of cases are legitimate, I do not really think transitioning is the proper treatment. It should be studied in an unbiased way, but because of how political the issue is, it will be very hard to. I would like to see more trials done using DBT in conjunction with antipsychotics, versus antipsychotics alone, versus DBT alone, versus treatment as usual, versus gender-conforming treatments.

y'all project way too much onto them
stop falling for obvious propaganda and have some empathy

>>308455
want to tell your side of the story?

>>308381
So if it wasn't a dick, then what was she raped with? A engorgated clit? :-/

>>308446
>he posted this roadmap to AGP in 2018
>people still see him as a woman
What would it take to wake these people up?

>>308463
She was trying to catch me in the act of masturbating like some sort of step mom porn and id be embarrassed and forced to do her bidding reminds me of a quote that stated that, "porn is the unconscious of art"

>>308623
this made the redditors very angry

I think my coworker who came out as nonbinary is really just doing it for attention. Everyone just went "cool" and went on with their day and now she's suddenly disabled and going around with a walking stick all day.

>>308642
lmao

>try to browse a site
>troon flag, troon flag, troon flag
>any June posts are mostly troon spam
>"MY FELLOW LESBIANS" with a troon flag
>posts barely mention any sexualities but usually include something about "seeing" troons, always the "sisters" too
>whole image dumps about how valid troons are and nothing else
God, just rename pride to troon month and dismantle the acronym to T. They take over everything they touch like a viral infection. I'm so glad June is over.

>>308642
hahahahah

>>307554
I hate when people's minds are distorted like that.

TIM ruined my friend group. Kept talking about masturbation habits to me and implied they would want to get with me if they were not asexual. Started feeling uncomfortable. Told other female friend I was uncomfortable and not to invite me to things if TIM is there. She never asked what made me uncomfortable. Got mad at me when I told her TIM was talking shit about her husband. I stopped engaging with TIM and TIM vague posted about me on the same site TIM admitted unhealthy porn preferences. I had to cut them all off because TIM infiltrated my friend group and they just let TIM get away with everything and have no accountability because reasons. Pissed.

>>309316
I had something similarlish happen, but instead we were a group of online friends who had known each other for a decade, and suddenly the furry porn addicted one became a genderfluid femboy obsessed with that crap and you can guess how well that turned out. It didn't help that I was the only woman in the group, so when I called him out for his aggression (which had nothing to do with his gender, he was just a fucking asshole in general and I had enough), of course he tried to weaponize it and went "TERF!! TERF!!" and all the other men went to coddle him and kicked me out lol

>>309316
Eventually he will get booted for being a sex pest, don't accept them back when they apologize for you being right.

>>309345

Absolutely fucking not. I made it clear that I need people around me that can talk about the difficult shit. It's ironically prejudiced to patronize someone and not hold them accountable just because of a demographic they are apart of. To me, if you don't hold someone accountable because of that, you don't see them as human but maybe a pet. I might not like people like creepy bad faith TIMs, but I will hold them to the same accountability of everyone else. Such a stupid mess that shouldn't even be happening if people weren't such cowards.

Some months ago I started attending a monthly meetup where we do nothing but play riichi mahjong. During one of the last meetups I had to play with this skinny, greasy looking dude, and I didn't think much of it, just that he reminded me of a dude I used to know who was a femboy, but yeah other than that he behaved just like all the other men there; acted like them, sat like them, was just as loud and rude, had a visible five o'clock shadow, etc. Last sunday during this month's meetup, I noticed he had the troon flag on his thermos and thought he might just be some other spicy flavor of queer or something, but then someone deadass referred to him as "she" and I swear to god I had to fight so hard not to laugh. Like OF COURSE the greasy, unkept femboy dude is a troon, but it was doubly funny cause again, he was a whole ass man. Like, isn't he embarrassed? Isn't he like "wow damn, I'm a dude in every conceivable way and yet I'm forcing all these people to call me 'she'?" Like I assume everyone else just goes along with it to "be kind" because holy shit, and if they don't, how can someone legitimately think that's a "woman trapped in a man's body", he was so male it hurt. The cognitive dissonance with this whole movement is wild.

>>309530

can tifs at least commit to the "problematic" bit ??

>>306729

I think what really pisses me off isnt the dolls of the trans community (hunter Schafer, Alex Consani, Zion Moreno), but rather the trans women that dress feminine and act feminine without doing anything to change their masculine features, it literally giving "putting lipstick on a pig."
like at least TRY to look like a woman if you're going to fight this hard to be one; like why the fuck do you have a full beard and wear the ugliest outfits known to man kind? examples of this would be Lily Tino and other like them; the type that refuse to change their voices or masculine features, but get unbelievably triggered when misgendered by the minimum wage worker at a fast food place during lunch rush.
maybe its a lookism thing or internal misogyny idk, but at least majority of the time trans men put in the effort to look masculine even if they're poor and can only do the mens haircut with a binder combo.

>>309589
>Hunter Schafer, Alex Consani, Zion Moreno
All 3 of those were groomed into transitioning as children, they didn't choose it as adults. They probably mock the masculine, particularly mentally unwell ones. Not to WK them, it's just that you can tell the difference in personality.

>>309592
oh shit I didn't know about the grooming stuff. and yeah not to WK any of them either but I'd rather come across a fully passing one than the masculine type in a bathroom. at least then I won't get jumpscared while going to wash my hands.

>>309589
>trans women
Please fuckoff back where you came from, please.

>>309592
I joined a vc in a discord and immediately heard 3 moids "joking" about how they totally wouldn't jack off to hunter schafer but still wanted a link to his nudes.
I left the entire server after that.

>>309632
The male taste for beauty is a skeletal moid with two hard silicone balls glued to the chest, how horrible

>>309596
What does WK stand for?

wild how some of you think you represent womanhood when really you're just running errands for men. funny how “protecting women” always stops the second a new one shows up too.

you didn’t invent this hate. you just inherited the baggage. the alt-right repackaged it, handed it to you with a pink ribbon, and you swallowed it like good girls. same trash, just wearing your face now.

feminism? lol. you’re eating your own. it’s giving insecure ego in lipstick. call it empowerment all you want, but it still just looks like self-loathing in a dress.

>>309637
white knight

>>309642

im sorry but this makes such a good copypasta, like this genuinely reads like a tif's attempt at poetry slam. so retarded it becomes brilliant. "pink ribbon" "lipstick" "dress" most of the women here are unfeminine (not to be confused with the societal norm of "masculine, masculinity ; refusing to perform stereotypically female gender stereotypes"). i doubt you're smart enough to consider that "masculinity" is the state of being and "femininity" is just a performance catered to men's perverse desires.

you're eating your own. its giving tif that crawled out of tiktok. call it empowerment all you want, but it still looks like self-loathing in a mutilated body.

>>309736
hahaha yeah I thought that post was hilarious too

>not representing womanhood
>despite being the literal definition of a woman

>>309736
Kek and astute observation. Reminds me of this dude:
https://www.jackiesabbagh.com/publications

>>309736
umm thanks? and nice cope. ive never been on tiktok though. and thanks for confirming you’d rather be unfeminine and bitter than lovely and free. calling femininity a performance for men while fighting to be seen as the “real woman” just proves you’ve never defined yourself outside of the patriarchy. they really did a number on ya, now you bark on command and call it sisterhood. cruelty doesn’t make you right, it just makes you ugly. and girl, if you were actually smart, you'd know projection when it’s staring back at you. keep eating your own. maybe if you hate enough people, you’ll finally feel good one day

>>309310
Entire personal blogs and timelines are just daily shit like this, endless streams of posts full of flags and how trans they are and hurdur heckin valid, and everyone plays along by shoehorning them into everything in ways that no other flag or group is. If they don't get attention and validation every 2 seconds in even the smallest thing that doesn't matter or stop broadcasting into every person's brain about how trans they are, they shrivel up and die. I'm sure some retard thinks this post constitutes as a reverse "gotcha", but rolling my eyes once a month at this stupid shit hardly compares. Get a fucking personality outside your genitals and stereotyped A-or-B package gender roles. Fuck.

>>309642
GREAT analysis of the transgender movement, nona. I agree, if men are going to self-loathe or hate on feminism, they don't need a dress for it or to take it out on women. The way they constantly eat their own is also telling.

>>309747
>you'd know projection when it's staring back at you
Your posts are a great example. You seem to have a very specific type of person in mind, one that I only see here on occasion. The content they describe are a dead ringer for a lot of political shit though, including genderspecial groups. I'll still humor this for a sec:

We don't have to "try to be seen as real women" because we are. That's the point, it's intrinsic and effortless. Trying NOT to be women would be the futile black hole of effort. Whether we're in hobo jeans or a crop top, baking a pie or fixing a car, we're recognizable as women since most skills/activities don't have a sex; it's the guys having breakdowns over voice training and Googling how the opposite sex chews their food so they "pass" better (yet somehow can't seem to always manage basic hygiene). Too frequently, their idea of what a woman is seems to be "porn toy" or "mommy tradwife" or "anime schoolgirl". They NEED the false construction of femininity, because that patriarchal definition is all that they have, and they make a cage out of it. We don't, and so we do not. We can choose anything we want, whether it's no makeup or the frilliest dress you've ever seen, because paint and cloth doesn't have a sex either. Despite what the men keep bitching about, they're just aesthetics, they're just mad that not everyone's catering to what makes their dicks happy anymore. It's very lovely and free not having to worry about pleasing men or reaching a made-up benchmark someone else created. You don't have to think about it and just do whatever you want instead of living a fake persona to please someone else. I recommend it.

You're not only in a vent thread, but also on one of the few sites where women can just openly complain about male bullshit without getting dogpiled by a bunch of dudes wanting attention. The userbase is going to seem more bitter than it actually is. This is magnified by the fact that a lot of the women on here have been badly treated by men of all stripes, or at least constantly get berated by them with ideas that they're inferior objects to be owned by men instead of whole-ass human beings. They have a RIGHT to be mad and everyone's at a different stage of working shit out. Being understanding of others' pain seems like an obvious choice, but perhaps I am being too optimistic.

As for puppy hijinks, the only barking on command I see is from randoms defending the feelings of the narcissist(s) in their Discord chat, who is in a protected class and not allowed to be called out for his crap ever. Their dose of Respect Transwomen/Men Are Wonderful Juice compels them to attack anyone who criticizes him. Now we're the enemy to be attacked and generalized, and especially by other women. Cruelty is walking into a group of people that have been attacked and seen as lesser by society simply for circumstances of birth that cannot be changed, in one of the few online places they have for themselves no less, and making them out to be all the evils of the world, despite the stats and all of history stating the opposite. All because you don't agree with the idea of their pain and concerns being more real than the idea of some man's "womanhood" you've decided to swallow like a good girl and bark for. Is this really the man-errand you've decided to spend your time on? I feel so bad for you and everyone else like this. I'm not even being sarcastic or whatever. Everything you listed is pretty much what you're doing here, but you don't seem to see or realize it and it's got you attacking a small minority of people on a dead site that just come here to vent into the void now and then. I really feel terrible for you being stuck in whatever state this is and I hope you wake up.

>>309798
>We don't have to try to be women because we are…
you're ignoring that being perceived as a woman under patriarchy is a struggle for many women. cis or trans. your “effortless” womanhood is actually conditional privilege based on your appearance aligning with societal expectations. you're mistaking luck and/or conformity for authenticity.
>Trans women only mimic porn toys or anime girls…
projection. you're accusing trans women of obsessing over presentation, while your entire argument hinges on it.. also, many cis women present with the same aesthetics. yet you're only punishing trans girls for it, who struggle more just to survive.
“I’m not like them, so I must be real.”
>They NEED femininity… we don’t. We’re free.
claiming superiority by rejecting femininity. problem: that’s still not freedom! that’s fear of vulnerability masquerading as liberation. ironically, this erases cis women who do love traditional femininity and feel deeply connected to it too
>You're attacking a small group of wounded women…
DARVO (Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender) pain doesn’t excuse cruelty. you don’t get to demand empathy while denying it to others.

i hear your pain, truly. i didn’t come here to steal your space. this was a vent space so i vented. and i came to remind you that protecting your pain by inflicting more only grows the wound. you don’t pity me, you just don’t know what to do with someone whos not shaped by your approval, and never will be.

>>309806
in this episode of "attention starved retard projects all over the place":

>i didn't come to steal your space, i just protect those who want to
>you're totally self-loathing and you're totally just fooled by these evil alt-right MOIDS am I pressing on enough buttons yet?
>you only hate troons and are a feminist because your life as a woman is effortless (lmao?) and actually you just hate troons because you are projecting your love for mimicking porn

fuck off retard nobody is getting fooled by this shit. come back when you actually have enough reading comprenehsion to understand what that nona was saying.

>>309806
>cis or trans
The TIMs are having trouble being perceived as women because they are men. Men are not women. Women have no trouble being perceived as women under patriarchy, and that is actually to our detriment. It's why so many TIFs try to escape it, only to find that they generally can't. Not fully. Even if they're better at coming across as the opposite sex, there will still be tells and men usually don't treat them with quite the same respect they were hoping for. Turns out the sexes are different. A TIM has only to stop trying to act contrary to what he is and his "oppression" goes away. Not so for the TIF.

>your“effortless womanhood is actually conditional privilege based on your appearance aligning with societal expectations
My effortless womanhood is because a woman is an adult female human, and that is what I am, but let's explore this since you seem to think I'm only referring to appearance. Even if I were to make myself look like what society "expects" a man to look like, growing a beard, getting a sausage stitched to my groin, I would still be female. That would not change, I would just be conducting a ruse by moving some skin around. This is your obsession with "presentation". Changing what you call something doesn't change what it is. Changing the color of the deodorant you buy or the clothes you wear doesn't change who or what you are. Real life isn't Bicentennial Man.

>you're mistaking luck and/or conformity for authenticity.
Reality is not authentic, apparently. Well, it seems you are mistaking constructed gender roles and feelings for "authenticity". Is that instead more real? Chance is an inherent part of reality, and a variable you have to factor into all things, which is what I assume you mean by "luck". I'm also curious what you think "conformity" means in this context. Once you plant that flag, how far can you go? Shall I refer to you as another species, as well? Identification of any category is just conformity to an idea, after all. Define some of the terms you're using, as they mean to you. Maybe we can clear things up.

>you're accusing trans women of obsessing over presentation, while your entire argument hinges on it
Incorrect. I'm saying it doesn't matter how I "present", and so it does not factor into my concerns on a daily basis outside common sense things like hygiene. It's not something I think about outside of discussions like this. Even if your TIM pulls off his act flawlessly, it is a role he wants to play, and a woman is still not what he is.

>yet you're only punishing trans girls for it, who struggle more just to survive
Heh, yes. Punishing. That is definitely what's happening here, on an anonymous internet forum, wherein a (mostly) calm discussion is happening over a difference of opinion on factual reality. That is punishment. Authentic, even? Hey, totally unrelated, but could someone post those stats on violence/death against women on a daily basis vs the same against trans-identified individuals? The one that also shows proper comparative proportions. Thank you.

>"I'm not like them, so I must be real."
Your mind is a fascinating place. Where did you get this one? A woman who works as a porn actress or a tradwife is certainly real, though the acting for the role may not necessarily be. Anime schoolgirls are not real, however, I won't humor you that far. So what are you getting at here? You think I'm shitting on the actual women? Of course not. I'm criticizing that (way too) many men seem to think that that is all there is to being a woman. We are not humans with wants and needs and our own inner complexities, we are cardboard stereotypes. Costumes and roles. Ones that please them. If we don't conform to it, then we are not "women" in the sense of something they can use or stick their dick into. If they can't find these fantasies, they roleplay with themselves and often try to become the woman they can't find. The one that really is just a sex toy or an anime waifu. The actual porn star woman, the person, is just as real as I am. I'm just sad that she's in that position, and that men think that that's all there is to her and it's the most desirable thing to have or be, and then also try to push that on anyone not in their sex's demographic (and some that are). Do you not see it as sad? It's dehumanizing. I know it makes me sad.

>claiming superiority by rejecting femininity
It's interesting that you interpret this as superiority.

>ironically, this erases cis women who do love traditional femininity and feel deeply connected to it too
It does not. They were happily included in my post. She can wear frilly dresses, bake pies, and do whatever she likes. Many people on this very forum do so. Even I bake and sew, and whatever other thing people have decided is a "female" activity. The point is them being able to choose, and not doing it because it's an externally forced expectation. I don't disparage women who want to be homemakers and the like. It's a very hard job. If someone likes pink and fluffy things, that's fine too! Like I said, skills and activities do not have a sex. These are preferences. Clothing and the like are just aesthetics. She's just as much of a woman as another woman who wears dirty coveralls, driving trucks around an oilfield and hawking loogies out the window. They're both women, whether they like a certain thing or not, and whether they choose to perform the femininity song and dance or not. (Incidentally, a connection to lifestyle choice or liking it doesn't make it less of one, and if you're going out of your way to act a certain way even if it's contrary to your own personality then it's still acting.)

>that's still not freedom! that's fear of vulnerability masquerading as liberation
The freedom to choose what you do in life without having to think or worry about it somehow changing or defining what you are is pretty free. I do and wear what I like because I like it or it's useful for life. That's it. Mens' opinions on it simply do not concern me, because I don't do my things for them. This includes when and how I choose to be vulnerable, and I do. Again, you seem to have this idea of a specific person you're arguing with and tackling their talking points instead of mine. I'm not afraid to be vulnerable, and I don't let men dictate how I dress or whatever, be it directly by their preferences, or indirectly by trying to avoid their preferences. It's a non-issue, or at least until they start getting uppity about it and make me pay attention to them. which is the crux of much around here.

To put it another way for you: ~imagine a life without dysphoria, no matter what you do~

>pain doesn't excuse cruelty. you don’t get to demand empathy while denying it to others
Your logic goes both ways. If you must first show empathy in order to receive it, what empathy have you shown in all of your posts? Knowing what DARVO is doesn't change that it was first your own tactic. You still haven't actually outlined what cruelty you think is going on here, though you've used the word at least twice now.

>i didn't come here to steal your space
This is a board for women, and only men are exempted. Differences of opinion don't typically constitute a ban, though sometimes the mods seem to get twitchy trigger fingers sometimes. Are you implying that you do not belong here?

>i came to remind you that protecting your pain by inflicting more only grows the wound
What pain am I inflicting? What horrid cruelties am I unleashing? List my crimes. Please be specific, I like to know what I'm being hanged for before my stool is kicked. If it's the rest of the thread then please, outline away.

>you don’t pity me
No, I feel bad for you. Pity implies sympathy without respect. While you're doing your best to erode the latter, I'm patient and willing to sit it out to give you a chance to calm down. If you continue too far down this path, then yes it may devolve into pity. We'll see, but it's kind of up to you. shrug

>you just don’t know what to do with someone whos not shaped by your approval, and never will be
More projections and assumptions, only this time for a failed attempt at a dramatic exit. You seem to think you know a lot about what I'm thinking and feeling, though none have been correct so far. I'll help: I don't care whether you're "shaped by my approval". If someone has a different view then I want that shit in my head right now so I have more data to work with, so you not agreeing isn't a problem. I saw someone throwing an unaware pouty fit in a thread and making an ass of themselves, and I was curious enough to indulge. You are someone who disagreed with something and was doing a poor job of explaining yourself, so I decided to engage with you to see what your deal was and let you explain yourself better, so perhaps I could learn something and give you a chance to get your act together while I was at it.

So far, what I got is that you don't seem to quite get mindset behind much of the userbase, what it is a lot of us are even doing here, nor more specifically the theory behind the more common branches of feminism and similar you are interacting with. Also that you are emotional, have some trouble telling the difference between mental constructions and reality, are prone to pre-cut lines of thinking, and have likely read a lot of "anti-radfem/feminism/TERF" posts and had them start coming out as recognizable pre-made talking points and arguments, hence the often ill-fitting responses. I don't doubt you're in a few chats that probably make the odd post or verbal pass at such groups. You're also probably in your late teens to mid-20s, and either know a trans individual that you feel a need to fight for, have friends that know some and so need to be indignant about this on their behalf, or are one yourself. Am I warm?

>>309806
>you're accusing trans women of obsessing over presentation

You build your entire identity on presenting as female.

>>309747
"cruelty doesn’t make you right, it just makes you ugly." "your “effortless” womanhood is actually conditional privilege based on your appearance aligning with societal expectations." and you've fallen victim to this patriarchal society. calling women ugly because being unattractive is aligned with being a generally terrible woman. answer me this: when you see countries like afghanistan and their treatment of afghan women, do you factor in "transgender women?" if not, why is that?

>>309806
"claiming superiority by rejecting femininity." not rejecting "femininity." we simply do not need it to be percieved as women everywhere. we simply exist as our natal sex. that much is female-enough for us to be discriminated. (ex: female genital mutilation ; do you factor "transgender women" into the statistics ?) also, DARVO sounds like some random tif garbage off of twitter.

"i came to remind you that protecting your pain by inflicting more only grows the wound. you don’t pity me, you just don’t know what to do with someone whos not shaped by your approval, and never will be." you're projecting. you're looking for approval, someone to understand you and switch sides and hopefully gain empathy (of which is more commonly associated and seen in females than males, the sex). i know it must be hard for you to see women actually being "harsh." you're simply not used to it. empathetic tifs like you will always put the feelings of men before your own. if i'd gone down your route, i'd manipulate as many woman as i could too. to feel seen and lessen the bitterness. all this must've been a mistake and you've been lied to by men with a debreasting fetish (which even has a subreddit). genuinely as someone who has delved into transgender, gender studies in general, not even medical practitioners agree. just look up stories of surgeons "misgendering" a patient after their successful botching surgery. s

but you won't realize this until you are literally too far gone. its all projection, dog motifs, cis/trans to you from now on. so bite when its a woman and bark when its a man.

Not sure if this video's been posted. It's one of those crazy parents that swallow the troonpill to abuse their children. According to the father, James doesn't "present" as a girl for anyone or anywhere else except his mother, because she won't love him if he's a boy. Here's the full interview:
https://youtu.be/PNbhyJYt4SI

>>309818
>be TIM
>billions of websites out there to visit that cater to you and kiss your ass by online decree
>ignore all real problems to specifically come to one of the few tiny specks that are not for you
>ignore the rules to larp as savior
>and preach something you don't seem to properly comprehend
>to women that you're unable to communicate anything to beyond cluelessness and butthurt
>on a subject you intrinsically don't understand
>solely because someone didn't agree with you, or play along with your delusions like those females are SUPPOSED to, damn it!
It is pretty typical failmale behavior, but I'm trying to give the person the benefit of the doubt, since TIFs and handmaidens are still women and do occasionally post like this. Ones that think they're helping and don't know better, thinking that if everyone plays nice then the real problems that caused the dislike will go away. Though this does bring up a few questions.

>>309747
"rather be unfeminine and bitter than lovely and free" feminine = lovely ; unfeminine being used in negative context. is this a "feminine trans gay" tif ? i see so many these days. they don't want to be feminine as women in fear of being vulnerable. feminity in men is applauded by women (ex: hate towards "toxic masculinity" and acceptance of "transgender women" more than acceptance of "transgender men" amongst "cisgender" men). because a gender-nonconforming woman is actually giving them a run for their money.

in my mind, because i don't speak for all radical feminists (not claiming to be a terf because i include tifs in my feminism), sex = gender, transgender = gender stereotypes. if genitals do not define gender, than why do people call it sex reassignment surgery ? so many transgender people would not mutilate themselves had their genitals not define them for life. i remember reading a book about a "non-binary" tif who legitimately cut her breasts off because as a child, people laughed at her for stripping on a beach. most radical feminists want to abolish this premeditated negative association between shame and female genitalia.

honestly i could go on and off again about how humans have been called a gonochoric sex across multiple societies for life. "gender presentations" are always lauded with white tifs but none of them realize even natives of that society (notably native americans and east asians) see it as just that. a man dressing as a woman. something in between. which goes hand-in-hand with recent studies that show that transgender participants show a more "intersex brain" than either male or female. intersex in itself being a birth defect. while some intersex people can live normally, transgender people fail to realise that others do not. some need to rely on hormones for the rest of their life. there was this case about a chinese intersex man (named xie jianshan) who literally had menstrual blood coming out of him and against his will, had to have surgery to "become a woman."you fail to realize that you are not special. you were simply not born with a birth defect that would generally impair your quality of life. if even intersex people don't want to be intersex, why do you need to be special so bad ?

don't take this as a sob story against intersex people, they can definitely live life fine. but almost every video of the ones who grew up not knowing they were intersex (not the ones like the chinese guy, being forced to choose the gender he didn't want), only felt like they were missing out on "the gender binary," fitting into either male or female. if you asked me, they should just be happy to be born healthy.

you cannot change your sex. if you could, nobody would even entertain the thought of "detransitioning" (ex: born female, transitioned to male, became female again ; amongst medical professionals, would this patient be considered male-to-female ? simply put: gender at birth is the most important when deciding one's natal, real, biological sex/gender. gender is not defined exclusively by hormones, chromosomes, genitals (however, this one is very detrimental than the rest), etc. hence even transgender people use the words "afab" or "amab" when referring to others. which irks them again, as most things do. they simply do not want to face the biological reality. they hate themselves and so do you. which is why you're on this site as a form of self-harm or semi-redemption. maybe you could learn a thing or two but if you're still unconvinced, you'll go back to tiktok flaming terfs, radfems, mean, unfeminine women in general.

>>309862
Reminds me of Desmond the Amazing

>>309806
Except I don't need to be perceived as a woman to be one. I could be the ugliest hulking ogre looking motherfucker on earth, hairy as a gorilla, stinky, have a huge nose and chin, an unibrow, whatever other ugly features you can think of, and I'd still be a woman.
I could be manlike, I could be the most unfeminine, people on the street could think I'm a man and even refer me as such by mistake, or even on purpose because they think it'd annoy me, and I'd still be a woman.
I could get sick and lose my breasts, my uterus, all my hair, and it'd still be a woman.
It's not a feeling, it's not an identity, it's not something that exists only when other people validate it or witness it, being a woman -a female- is what I am and will always be and I don't have to do anything in particular for that to happen, it just is. In the same way a male will always be a male no matter how much he does to appear otherwise.
I exist, I am a female, I am a woman, it's really that simple.

>>307943
Being molested as a child is even more brutal to their mind than it is to their bodies.
Many horrific mental scars are left like dissociation, trauma and loss of memory. It also impacts the kid's view of their own body, of their identity and their relationship to the world.
Some kids sadly internalize their abuser's perspective Stockholm Syndrom style and try to cultivate whatever characteristic their abuser seemed to seek, so some victims become promiscuous, some torture their own body in a vain attempt to reverse the aging process and others blame their own body for causing that assault instead of blaming the abuser. It's all subconscious because a child isn't mentally developped enough to apprehend morality, responsibility, etc.
Some children resent the parts of their body they blame for making them a victim, or for inticing the appetite of a predator. So as a defense strategy they seek to erase these parts and transforme their bodies into something they think is less likely to invite harm based on their experience.

Rob's Medias new video about him talking about Kris Tyson, you know, the pedophilic textbook definition of a AGP porn addict, features him talking about how he wants "no transphobia" in the comments and that "kris is just an ugly woman"

why do people willingly choose to be homophobic sexists over being transphobic. Its so fucking annoying. God forbid you call a pedophile porn addict a man.

>>306729
The bathroom shit is so fucking annoying now. I’ve always looked kind of dykey (short hair, men’s clothing, no make up, etc) but in the last year I’ve had multiple people ask me to leave the women’s restroom. I have a very feminine face. It’s really strange. Most of them are sort of embarrassed when I speak aloud and they realize I’m not a guy but some just get defensive. I also get stared at constantly, with conservatives sort of glaring and lefties smiling “knowingly”. I get looking different will get me looked at but this is ramping up lmao. I also am always called a they, assumed to be nonbinary or trans, etc. And for a long time it didn’t bother me! But now it’s coming from both right wing and left wing… Why do people care so much…

>>309947
damn you sound hot as fuck ngl, not to be weird.
I get called a they myself or assumed to be nonbinary, I'm just a classic tomboy, though I am a total dyke.
Trannies are so fucking annoying with how they fixated on the bathroom issue as a way to get peoples attention away from the actual shit that mattered. Nobody CARED about the bathroom stuff that badly, we cared about locker rooms where men get naked in front of girls, we cared about men being allowed in womens prisons and being able to get away with rape there, we cared about men in womens sports, we cared about minors being groomed, about gender ideology itself where people go to jail for misgendering someone. NOBODY cared about bathrooms that much at all.

this isn't continuing the convo already being had so i'm sorry.

i feel bad for trans women who don't have any feminine features. it's just kind of sad to see when they try their best to look feminine but can't because of their genetics.

soz for picrel quality, but this is kind of what sparked this thought. she isn't really ugly, just strikingly masculine.

>>309949
lol i think it's funny, they're even greater caricatures than they already are. they're ugly creatures who will never come anywhere close to what they're trying to emulate and i bet that eats them up inside, i love it

>>309949
Stop feeling bad for them. They would never feel bad for you, they absolutely fucking hate you and their love for "femininity" is mostly based on sissydom, believing women are inherently weak, pathetic, and are only good for sex, they view the very act of being a woman as a humiliating sex act, with the only women being "empowering" are troons.

They would gladly make fun of you if you had masculine features and say you arent a real women. They openly mocked a woman who got her limbs torn on by a shark because she was "le transphobic", they openly mock women who are physically and sexually abused. They openly mock trans men and use radfem talking points against them knowing they hate radfems, and yet they do it so they can have a socially acceptable incel ideology.
They are manipulative narcissists, with only .001% of them being HSTSs who actually mean well. 99% of them are smug, hateful and entitled shit-eaters.

You need to resist the innate female desire to be empathetic and understand, I used to be like that too, but its why women are being harmed by these goblins. Just know while you feel sorry for them, they are actively supporting the rape of women who are forced to be housed with these retarded in the prison system. Which by the way, there already exists a prison system meant exclusively for men who are at risk of being harmed by other men- they are already protected, women are literally not.

>>306729
Found this edit of a disgusting troon anime

>>309966
They only become troons because of some sexual fantasy and their porn addiction, they don't see women as anything but sexual objects and to satisfy their fetish they "become one" and enter female spaces just to creep and abuse women which they don't even see as real humans